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1.25.2007
Rhome
Rhome PD had its silly little camera out on 287 this morning taking pictures of speeders.
I'm telling you, this is going to be a disaster. It's a matter of time before WFAA, Fox 4, KXAS, etc. are all over this thing. Where does that lead? We'll see
cops, city council members, and local Rhome residents being interviewed on camera and doing one thing: giving a bad impression.
That's all Wise County needs, more bad press. And it's coming.
I was also talking to a local law enforcement friend of mine yesterday and he described the camera as this: "Lazy police work." Amen, bruther.
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A university-sponsored forum to address the issue was scheduled for Wednesday night.
And the fraternity defense will be they were dressed up like rap stars and the NFL!!!
What is wrong with that????
As a 15 year law enforcement official.......I AGREE....LAZY POLICE WORK
AMEN
A bill is in the works to be passed this year prohibiting the use of Traffic Enforcement Cameras by Police agencies as it violates the accused persons rights to confront his accuser.
All cameras after a certain date which I'm not sure of will have to be taken down once the bill is passed.
There are red light cameras all over the place. Not sure how this is different. There are security cameras all over the place that capture crimes, provide evidence. Not sure how that's different. In any of those cases, the video or photographic evidence is later, and used without the accused being confronted by the accuser at the moment of the crime or violation. I doubt the chances the bill referenced will be successful. Why are so many bent out of shape that they can't speed through a small town anymore without being noticed? Is speeding that important to everyone?
A camera to protect a national monument against vandalism or terrorism is one thing but a speed camera in Rhome is crazy. Whats next, the city council installing cameras in the crappers at the Subway?
The majority of Rhome residents think that camera is an disgrace. They have no say so in a council meeting though as evidenced by a recent petition that was filed to have the Mayor Pro tem removed ( he finally resigned for "health reasons"), so the camera will stay as long as the current council is on board because they only serve themselves and are in it for revenue over freedom. You would have thought that the councilmembers who did serve in the military would have put the basic civil liberties our forefathers fought to preserve over the promise of revenue , greed, and invasion of privacy.
SCC is on its way (subway crapper cameras)
Barry, can you post a pic of the camera? You should use it in an advertisement at the local Rhome establishments. This fiasco is doing nothing but fleecing the working people. You should put your law firms ad on a 287 or 114 billboard.Do you handle Rhome traffic tickets? I wish you would interview local people and businesses about the effect of this camera. Barry Green...friend of the working class.
+++++BREAKING RHOME NEWS+++++++
SUBWAY EMPLOYEE CAUGHT REDHANDED USING MORE THAN 4 SHEETS!
The new security device called the SCC ( subway crapper cam ) caught its first criminal today. The employee was on the clock using more than the 2 sheets allowed per Subway policy. When the arresting agency showed the tape of the dastardly act to the accused he responded, "You got me brown handed!" Subway spokesman Jarrad said " It is the bad apples like this guy who cause our restaurant millions of year in theft and lost profit, which we must pass on to the consumer." Jarrad said "Thanks to the cooperation between the city council and our restaurant, we nabbed this guy before he cost us any more money." Jarrad went on to further say that the partnership was a success and that a proposition for installing 25 cent locks on the restroom stalls to recoup the loss is on the agenda at the next council meeting.
I believe there are fundamental differences between red light cameras and speeding cameras.
To determine whether a car has run a red light, you need to know 2 things: (1) is the light red? and (2) is there a car in the intersection? Both of these questions are easily answered by a mechanical device, without any human input being necessary.
To determine whether a car is violating the speed limit is a different kind of animal. First, you need a device which measures speed. While there are many devices that can do this, in the case of these cameras I presume they are using a radar unit. My understanding is that radar units must be carefully calibrated in order to be accurate, and generally to prove up a speeding ticket you need to have the operator of the unit testify as to the calibration.
But assuming you can overcome this problem, the radar unit can only determine that a car is speeding. But if the speeding car is near a non-speeding car at the time the picture is taken, there is no way the mechanism can determine which of the two cars is speeding. For this, you need a human to be there, paying attention, at the time this is all taking place.
Therefore it is difficult to see how these speeding cameras could be unmanned.
Even if they are manned, you still have the problem of pinning the speeding offense on a particular driver. I'm not a criminal lawyer, but I would think this would be very difficult for a prosecutor to overcome unless you have a really clear picture of the driver. Failing that (which I consider very unlikely), what the prosecutor has is picture of a car, which presumably shows a readable license plate. So you can determine who owns the car, but who was driving it? The owner? How on earth would you prove that unless the owner just voluntarily admits it?
While you will also have this same problem with a red light camera, I think this is solved by legislation specifically developed for these cameras. I am too lazy to research this, but my guess is that the law makes red light violations, when caught only by a camera, into civil violations, rather than criminal violations. Because of this, you can have strict liability. In other words, the owner of the car is responsible for paying the fine regardless of whether the owner was actually the driver of the car. This is probably similar to how toll booth violations are handled.
Sorry for the long post!
I AM IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THERE IS REALLY A SIMPLE SOLLUTION TO ANY TRAFFIC CAMERA BE IT A SPEED CAMERA OR ARED LIGHT CAMERA. DO NOT BREAK THE LAW AND YOU DONT HAVE TO WORY ABOUT IT.
Tell that to those wrongly convicted of them!
WELKOME TO AMERIKA
There is a camera, there is radar, there is a cop, there is a technician, then there is the idiot going 10 miles plus over the speed limit. Then there are all the whinny jerks that have nothing better to do than bitch and complain even though someone is breaking the law. If you’re going 10 miles over the speed limit, you need a ticket. Get a life.
There is a camera, there is radar, there is a cop, there is a technician, then there is the idiot going 10 miles plus over the speed limit. Then there are all the whinny jerks that have nothing better to do than bitch and complain even though someone is breaking the law. If you’re going 10 miles over the speed limit you need a ticket. Get a life.
Stop crying about the speed van and drive the speed limit! As for the "lazy cop remarks"...remember that when u need a new vest,a new police car...or a raise!
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