11.30.2010

I Predict This Becomes News


From a relatively obscure blog* over at the Star-Telegram comes word that public transportation buses in Fort Worth will have anti-God ads on them beginning tomorrow.  And the group sponsoring the ads said the campaign was rejected by DART over in Dallas.

This is going to get people riled up.

Full story.
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* No offense. We all can't be Big Time.

106 comments:

mzchief said...

Yep! There may be a handful of things that piss, God fearing, people off more than advocating being good for goodness's sake but none of them are as much fun to watch. It is amazing the number of people who fail to comprehend that morality and ethics have been around for THOUSANDS of years prior to monotheism and that modern ethics/morality came about HUNDREDS of years PRIOR to Christianity/Islam.

As far as I am concerned, any religion that has EVER advocated the murder of people who merely refused to embrace the religion is not in a position to dictate the inspiration people elect to embrace to be ethical/moral/good.

Anonymous said...

Hey Chief,

You have your right to believe or not in whatever. I chose to believe there is a God. One of us can afford to be wrong.

Have a nice eternity.

Anonymous said...

Hmmmm. What religions have EVER advocated the murder of people who merely refused to embrace their religion?

Please list it/them.....

Anonymous said...

Barry this is old news. It was on the 10PM news last night. Get with it old man and stay up past 10 to catch up on the happenings. Everyone is beating you to the scoop!

Anonymous said...

GOD,bless Dart !! One of these days these people will see how good they have done without God !!!

Anonymous said...

I don't really see what's wrong with it. Those who don't believe in God have just as much right to their beliefs as I do. I believe in God personally but don't try to force others to share that belief. It's those who post their stupid God billboards everywhere and who try to force their faith on others who can't see the log in their own eye. The nonbelievers have just as much right to claim their disbelief as do the believers. I for one just mind my own business and let others mind theirs.

mzchief said...

To anonymous 12:34...
I have such a deep abiding faith in GOD that I do not require the myths and fables, presented by religions, to enable my belief. If it takes you being afraid of the wrath, from what Christianity has described as, an omniscient, ever-present super deity, to be good then perhaps you are not being good you are merely being blackmailed into not being bad.
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To anonymous 12:26...
For starters, Christianity and Islam. You ever hear of the Crusades, Inquisition, Reformation and/or Jihad?

wordkyle said...

mzchief, based on your statements, you're not one of the people the ad refers to. To these people you're a religious nut. Welcome to the pro-God side.

By the way, why do they feel it necessary to advertise non-belief? Do they feel compelled to gather together and non-believe? How long can their meetings be? Do they sell WWND (What Would Nobody Do) bracelets to raise funds so they can buy ads on the sides of buses?

Mzchief said...

Shut up Mzchief !

Anonymous said...

Hey Chief,

Not saying I'm good, just forgiven.

12:34

Anonymous said...

You can bet I won't ever ride on a bus with that written on the side of it.

Anonymous said...

If a group (millions of Americans) has a belief that they would encourage others to adhere to, then by definition isn't that proselytizing and doesn't that make them a religion?

P.S. Mzchief: History bares out that groups of "non-believers" have killed a few in the name of their "non-belief". The evil you attach to religion is man's short fall not God's. "ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."

Anonymous said...

We'll stop advertising it, when you stop juding us because we aren't religious. Christians use the bible to judge people ALL the time, ie homosexuals.

Anonymous said...

Thank God I'm an atheist.

mzchief said...

To wordkyle...
Believing in God does not make me a "religious nut," it makes me a deist. You do realize, since God is God and has been around looooong before religion, that means religion does not have sole proprietorship of God, right? Perhaps, you are one of those people who believe that God is nothing more than the manifestation of religion. I believe God has been around longer than people have thought to think about God.
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To MzchiefWannabe...
Since "shut up" is the best you can offer, I am not surprised you are sooooo eager to be me.
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To anonymous 12:24/2:00...
You do realize, the oh so tired; have to believe in the Mythical Martyr, Jesus to be "forgiven" whoohaa, only applies to Christians, right? Perhaps, you are one of those people who believe God is not omniscient and omnipotent and is so petty and narrow minded that God would only allow for one way for humans to embrace God. I prefer to believe God is greater than what humans can conjure with their limited intellect.

Anonymous said...

I bet the front of the bus says, "BRYANT IRVIN/HORNE ST to RIDGMAR MALL"!!!

Anonymous said...

Lovie your such a fake!! Team Obi 1,000...Team Mzcreep 0...

Anonymous said...

I would tend to agree with Word Kyle. You have to wonder what causes these guys to campaign so much against what they don't believe in.

I loved my pastor's recent comment "I don't believe in unicorns but I'm not going to undertake a campaign to keep them out of the public square."

Time will tell who right and who was wrong.

Anonymous said...

I think we need to let all those talented youth that always paint the trains to move over to the Ft. Worth buses! Change is good!

Anonymous said...

The road to hell will be paved with those that good without God

wordkyle said...

mzchief - I'm not saying you're a religious nut, I'm saying they think you're a religious nut, because of your belief in God. See, for you to be right, even a little bit, would make them wrong. So they would have to denigrate your beliefs, labeling them as Myths and Fables for Dummies, regardless of how much comfort your own personal relationship with God brings you, or how much good you might do for the world because of it.

Interesting phenomenon, isn't it?

Anonymous said...

Mzchief:You're a nut and TARD no matter what you believe in.

Anonymous said...

When the Christian's killed, wasn't it more like self-defense?

Just askin'

Anonymous said...

I love being motivated by fear!

Anonymous said...

wordkyle and Mzchief sittin' in a tree k...i...ss...ing...

Anonymous said...

Uh, Mz-iah.

What was the name of that RELIGION from 3000 B.C. you said you followed? Some Babylonian something or another?

What was that?

Did they ever kill?

12:36.


BTW, this is my first chance to act like you when I say to your 12:58 post.....THERE IS NO 12:26, ITS 12:36. GET IT RIGHT!!!!

mzchief said...

To anonymous 2:26...
Obviously, you are no literary genius. The act of proselytizing does not only apply to religion. Just because someone attempts to recruit a random person to join their cause does not mean they are proselytizing for a religion.

I will keep this short, in the hope you comprehend this basic concept. Religion and any associated tenets are the creation of humans, not God thus, religion is indeed, innately flawed and evil, if you believe that it is the nature of all humankind to be incapable of perfection.
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To anonymous 2:46...
If thinking that makes you sleep better at night, go ahead. However, you notice how AnO has changed the tenor of her blog. Perhaps, the dog stealing harpy figured out using her blog to publicly bash her neighbours, Son's Coach, Team/Hag, MethMom, and dirty children makes her a low-brow, shrew rather than a "High Tone" house frau.
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To wordkyle...
Most of the atheists, I have encountered, tend to attribute faith in God to limited intellect and psychic insecurity as well as self delusion. If the truth be known, all the tales regarding God are nothing more than myths and fables which is why TRUE belief in God should based on nothing more than FAITH. I feel sorry for all the people who require the myths and fables to enable them to believe in God. If people require proof of something that negates the need for FAITH.

God according to mzchief: God does not love humans (Love is a human emotion and God is above human emotions). God does not get involved in the day to day lives of humans and grant wishes/prayers (God is not Santa). God does not care how or whether humans worship God (God does not require human adoration to maintain God's self-esteem). The belief and worship of God is for no other reason than to grant comfort and peace to the person who worships/prays to God which is why it is called FAITH. The only reward humans get for believing in God is the comfort that comes from having FAITH. People who think they need to jump through hoops to get the golden ticket into Heaven are missing the entire purpose of FAITH. I frequently wonder, how many people would embrace religion or God if they did not believe it granted them some special pass into Heaven.

mzchief said...

To anonymous 3:37a...
Hey! Wordkyle and I are married, to different people, so there is no sitting in a tree kissing. However, I do think is big brain is HAWT.
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To anonymous 3:37b...
I do not follow any religion. Humans have murdered since the dawn of man. However, murdering in the name of God is, by decent people's standards, diabolical.

BTW...Thank you for catching my typo. I really should proofread my comments but NEVER WILL!

Anonymous said...

WOW! Mznutjob were you buy your crack? Sounds like you get the goooood stuff!

Anonymous said...

I'm an Apathetic. I just don't care.

Anonymous said...

WOW!!! I can see by reading this that not many of you read and know your Bible!! Here something to get you thinking. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,and the Word was God. John 1:1 Wow guess what the Word was the Bible and the stories in the Bible are not myths they are true stories. The Bible is the living word of God read it,it will change your life.

Anonymous said...

Mzcheff, How did you learn about God. Please answer, thanks

Anonymous said...

This ad irks me, but for different reasons than most would think. My beliefs on religion per se are much like that of mzchief, although I identify as agnostic, whereas she does not appear to. She has full faith in a supreme being, I say it cannot be proven, however I would lean toward the side that there is as supreme creator (agnostic theism). This is why I see her beliefs in the same light in principal as the religous because both believe with certainty their views are concrete, however any belief in a God requires a leap of faith. Her inticate understanding of the worlds religions and their cost to society are what sets her apart from your typical religous dolt. That gal might unleash some cyber terror on those that cross her but she certainly is not going to do it because some bishop, mullah, priest, medicine man, or collection of short stories told her too!

This is also why I feel that atheists and religous folks are intellectually equal in principal; they both wish you to believe in something neither can prove. Atheists cannot prove there is not a god and the religous cannot prove there is!

My problem is when atheists get the religous folks riled up and vice versa, I tend to get pushed into a corner by both sides. The religous nuts want to lump me in with atheists because they never really understand agnosticism anyway, and the atheists want to dismiss me as a less evolved version of them because they think they are intellectually superior, which is clearly incorrect since it is much easier to dismiss what you cannot know versus conluding that it simply cannot be proven. No great leap in logic there on my part so why does everyone have trouble seeing the obvious; both sides are right and both sides are wrong because neither can prove different! There you go, let's all shake hands, hug it out, cancel all the stupid billboards and bus ads, and quit killing each other in the name of our chosen diety!

Anonymous said...

Ahh, let's just boil this tempest in a teapot down to this: "Millions of Americans are Good without God"--at least for the here and now. :-)

Anonymous said...

This bus is bound for Glory! Oh, it's not? Well, I'll wait for the next one.

My Other Brother Darryl

guinjames said...

Atheists have Sunday free.

Anonymous said...

MzChief, I wish I could be listening when God calls you to come before him! I'm pretty sure your BS will go out the window!

wordkyle said...

mzchief - "myths and fables" or "limited intellect, psychic insecurity and self delusion?" It's essentially the same characterization. You say po-tay-to, I say po-tah-to.

By the way, I assume you are referring to Christians with your "people who require the myths and fables to enable them to believe in God." (That's your usual reference to the Christian Bible.) I think most Christians believe the Bible because they believe in God, not the other way around. Also, I suspect that most of them embrace their Christianity based on faith, rather than empirical evidence. (There may be some quantum physicists who do, but I imagine that's a relative small subset.)

Your characterization of God interests me. How did you arrive at these conclusions? For example, how did you determine that God does not love humans? I understand that your beliefs are based on faith, because you said as much, but how did you arrive at these beliefs? Given your animosity toward organized religion, yours seems pretty "organized." How come?

Anonymous said...

Mzchief: Someday you're gonna be sittin on somethin real hot with the smell of brimstome in your nose hairs.

Anonymous said...

Sounds good Prop/MzCreep...still despise you

Anonymous said...

Mz-iah,

God does love us. That is why he sent his only Son to die for people like you and me.

God does get involved in our daily lives. He freed His people from bondage in Egypt. He was involved in 'daily lives' when he had enough of people in Noah's time and with Sodom and Gomorrah.

You are dumb with your last sentence. I personally worship God, and I try to be a Christian, but I often fail. And I never believe I have a free pass to Heaven. That is up for God to decide. I believe I need to do more than just believe Jesus was the Son of God and died for my sins, and was resurrected, etc. in order to have salvation.

After reading your post, I once again see just how shallow your self-perceived intellect is.

Anonymous said...

I really feel sorry for you.

Anonymous said...

Ther wull be alot of answer s 12/12/2012

Anonymous said...

The Code of Hammurabi is what MZ said she followed a while back. There are like 282 rules to go by. None of which contain violence or murder......NOT. Seems you follow a RELIGION that condoned murder too.

Anonymous said...

Me luves me some mizcheif.

Df. Red baron

Anonymous said...

You show your total ignorance when all you can use to rebut someone is quoting tired scripture. That means absolutely ZERO to those of us who don't believe the bible is the be all and end all to life. I totally believe in God, but the Christians make me sick, thinking they are the only ones with the answers and that they need to 'convert' the rest of us to their beliefs. Wake up and realize that God it laughing at you and at your small-mindedness. He embraces ALL peoples, Islams, Jews, Hindus, etc. It's the Christians of the world who just make me fighting mad, and I was raised in a denomination here in Decatur. I jusdt later realized that God wasn't as small as my tiny little insignificant denomination tried to brain wash me into believing. You folks are the ones who'll have a rude awakening one day, as we'll all be in heaven....oh, wait, you might NOT be, because you feel so superior and judge the rest of us!

Anonymous said...

3:34 No. The Christians killed because they believed, as they still do today, that they were the only ones who knew the right path. Arrogant idiots.

Anonymous said...

Mz:

I do not follow any religion. Humans have murdered since the dawn of man. However, murdering in the name of God is, by decent people's standards, diabolical.


Well, what Samson did was in the name of God and same with David and Golliath.


Also, you said before you FOLLOW the Code of Hammurabi in the past. Therefore, that is your religion.
And his code calls for murder as punishment.

Oh what tangled webs YOU weave....

Anonymous said...

Mzcreep and WordsKyle, Give it a rest

_God

Anonymous said...

It's a belief....not a fact.
- Satan

Anonymous said...

Mziah-

God does not love humans (Love is a human emotion and God is above human emotions). God does not get involved in the day to day lives of humans and grant. God does not care how or whether humans worship God (God does not require human adoration to maintain God's self-esteem).


To KNOW those things about God makes you like....like above HIM. Where did you learn that? Is that like creating your own God?? Your own RELIGION.......

hmmmmm. Me still be thinkin you follow a religion, it's just not that organized.....

You ARE really smart if you know GOD is thinking all that you specified.

Anonymous said...

4:00 The bible is only the word of god if you allow it to be. Many of us out here belive it's only another book filled with stories of how to treat others and play nice in the sand box.

4:14 what you fail to realize is that many of us who believe in God also have Sundays free. I think denominational worship is an abomination to the true God. That's not only not necessary, it's divisive and anti-the true God.

4:28 and 4:30 How does that Kool-aid taste, folks?

Anonymous said...

Technically, Christianity is not about religion, it's about a relationship.

Anonymous said...

6:35 Are you referring to my blind acceptance of faith in God?

I feel great....or the Kool Aid as you put it. But it's really not blind. There is plenty of evidence to support God and the Holy Bible.

Christmas must suck around your house and Mzchief's house with all those non-Christmas carols.

Anonymous said...

i hope God givs MzCreep/Propagandist Hemmroids

Anonymous said...

6:43 I don't believe in the denomination Christianity but I have a relationship with GOD....whatever name you choose to call Him.

Anonymous said...

The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

Anonymous said...

Funny how the posts from Christian believers are not so hate-filled as those who say they are simply GOD believers and not Christians. Sure can see a difference, just in their written word.
Mzchief, you are more arrogant in pushing your beliefs on here than any Christian poster I've ever seen. So, why don't you shut your trap just as you insist the Christians do?

Anonymous said...

7:33, You're in for a surprise!! Mzchief DOES celebrate Christmas, with Christmas trees and all, because SHE declares Christians stole the pagan "winter holiday celebration."

Anonymous said...

The KDFW reporter interviewing the guy who led the effort to put the "Good without God" posters on the FW busses just said to him..."so during this time of the year when everyone is talking about Christ..."...Really? Is EVERYONE talking about Christ. Wow...she made his point for him.

wordkyle said...

Just an observation: It seems like most of those who "believe in God" but profess a dislike for Christianity still base their beliefs on a Judeo-Christian foundation. Fascinating.

Anonymous said...

Ok, I have a few questions...

One, those of you who believe in no God, where do you think we came from?

Two, do you also believe we have no souls? no afterlife?

Three, what happens to us when we die on this earth? (and how did we even get here in the first place?)


If you don't believe in God, then what/who made all that we are/see in our lives?


Frankly, I believe you are empty people, people with no hope for an afterlife, no hope for happiness on this earth. I don't have any sympathy for you, however, because you choose to be as you are. I'm just curious how you answer the above questions.....or CAN you even answer them?

I sure have read many posts here from Godless folks, so don't let me down now.... if you are so insistant that there is no God, then you surely have answers to the questions.

Anonymous said...

Wordkyle, you always chide people for their responses for not being well-thought out and uninformed. Your 1:14 response certainly displays your own level of ignorance.

You made a comment asking the question of why do they advertise. Well why not advertise? Do churches not advertise?

You also ask the question of why they feel the need to congregate together. Well, perhaps there is a high level of oppression directed towards atheists. Like any other special interest group, those folks tend to flock together. If that doesn't make sense to you, call all you friends and tell them you are renouncing your faith and you don't believe there is a God. I guarantee you will cut your number of friends by at least half.

Here in these United States, those of us who are religious highly value the freedom of religion the constitution affords us. Unfortunately, we often forget that freedom of religion has a flip side, and that flip side is freedom FROM religion.

Anonymous said...

And to think.... I get pretty worked up over whether or not the AL should drop the DH

Anonymous said...

I think Heather Hayes on channel 4 wanted to rip the atheist a new a-hole when he tried to say he didn't pick December for any particular reason. She definitely held back.

Anonymous said...

10:20...There was this big bird flying over and it took a huge crap and it landed on a flat rock...hence how MzCreep/Propagandist was created...

Anonymous said...

Christmas has nothing to do with the birth of Jesus. It is a renamed pagan Roman celebration. That is a clear violation of the laws given to Moses. The trip Joseph and Mary took to pay their taxes did not occur in late December close to the Winter Solstice. The Romans, who took over Christianity, changed things around to blend with their paganism.

YM said...

People often judge others according to their own personal belief system, e.g., religion, politics. It really is perfectly okay to advocate doing good without attributing the act of doing good to God, in fact, it's a great idea to do good merely for the sake of doing good. The world would be a better place if everyone did that.

Anonymous said...

We're Drugs or Alcohol involved?

wordkyle said...

While it's true that a person does not have to be religious to do good, at least one study conducted at Stanford concluded that religious people do, indeed, do more good than non-religious secular people. With all factors (e.g., race, income) other than religion being identical, a religious person is 23% more likely to give money to charity, and 26% more likely to volunteer his time, than the secularist. So while religion is not required to do good, in actual practice religion appears to motivate people do more good.

Anonymous said...

We must realize that most religions are parallel. They all say the same thing with different words, or examples.

Regardless of what religion or way of life you may or may not follow, we can find what we need to know from within.

We must rid of negative emotions, and only then can we think clearly without an overwhelmed emotional mind, and then it is clear as day.

Act, think, and do positive and positive will be the only thing to come back to you.

We all know what we need to do. You just have to let it happen.

namaste

namaste

Anonymous said...

Christ was the perfect gift. One day every knee shall bow every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, and I can't wait I hope I get to see some of you bowing before LORD!!! What a day that will be.

Anonymous said...

DART refused the ad because they do not accept any religeous advertising.

Anonymous said...

WOW!
It appears that the regular commentors on here are absent today. Looks like most everyone on this string is a good Christian. Very inconsistent with the regular folks here who refer to the President with the "N" word, comment on boob sizes and sexual fantasies with random thought ladies, advocate hate for liberals or anyone who is different, and generally are mean with their comments, definitly not Christians.

The Devil said...

Giving to charity is the same a welfare, you are just enabling those who receive the benefit instead of encouraging them to pull themselves up by their bootstraps! Giving to charity is actually sacrilegious, a good convervative should know this Word!

Being the unuasual non-religous secular gent who is politically conservative I believe that welfare and charity are equally bad, so do not take my failure to give as a bad thing since I will fight to the death to vote down entitilement benefits as well.

wordkyle said...

Dev, Dev....if you honestly believe that private charitable giving is the same as government entitlements, then you have missed a major point of conservatism. Read Russell Kirk's thoughts on the voluntary community.

Anonymous said...

If churches were taxed like all other profit-based ventures then we'd see who was religious for the right reasons. We could probably go a long way to eliminating the deficit as well--the federal budget deficit not the intelligence deficit that organized religion continues to proliferate.

House of York said...

7:14 Is Mzchief and Propagandist the same person? Just wondering from your post.

Anonymous said...

Yes, one and the same multiple personality.

mzchief said...

Sorry for the delay. Last night, I had a late supper with good friends and I have been trying to fly from 1 edge of the US to the center, all day.

mzchief said...

To anon Code of Hammurabi, Gits...
I have NEVER claimed to abide by the Code of Hammurabi/COH. Due to the fact I have stated, numerous times, that I am against the death penalty, it goes without saying that I do not agree with the punishment meted out in the COH. I stated that the 10 Commandments are approximately 700 years younger, a condensed version and adaptation of the Code of Hammurabi. Personally, I prefer the entire Code of Hammurabi because it goes into greater detail as to the importance of being a respectful, honest, non-destructive member of society. The severity of punishment meted out in the COH is vital in informing people of how serious it was to breach the COH.

Something the Code Of Hammurabi does that the 10 Commandments does not is illustrate the immorality of denying any group, within society, less rights. Just read the COH and you will be shocked by how little value society placed on the lives of women and slaves. Of course, Jews, Christians and Muslims omitted the COH's glaring example of inequity so as to make slaves, women just as responsible for believing in God even though, women/girls and slaves remained the property of men. Does anyone really believe that any just God would approve and advocate to enslave vast numbers of people, merely due to their geographic origins and subjugating women/girls to be nothing more than the property of men? Keep in mind, as recent as 100 years ago, some restaurants, in the US, refused to serve a single woman not accompanied by a male. Subjugation of women and specific groups has always been a part of the religion practiced by the majority of humankind. One hundred and 175 years ago, in the US and majority of the world, a married woman could not own land. Upon marriage, a woman's property, along with herself, became the property of her husband.

Anonymous said...

Bullshit, u drove from Jacksboro to Chico..tap the brakes there Globe setter

mzchief said...

To wordkyle...
No, I do not believe in the Judeo-Christian psycho bastard version of God. I do not believe God is some old white dude who wears sandals, long flowing robes and has an impressive long flowing beard. I do not believe God created the Universe. I do not believe God has ever commanded humans to murder other humans for any reason especially for merely having a different belief in God. I do not believe God has ever intervened in a sporting event to determine the outcome of a game. I do not believe God ever collaborated with Satan to test the faith of any follower. I do not believe it is God's will when horrible things happen to good people. I do not believe God loves humans. I do not believe God knocked up a teenage virgin so as to enable her to give birth to a messiah.

I believe that God is more along the lines of the collective, positive consciousness of the Universe which enables and encourages humans to achieve and excel, should humans elect to avail themselves of the blessing of God's inspiration and achieving inner peace/strength. I realize my belief is a difficult concept for most Judeo-Christian/Muslims to grasp.

I reference all Judeo-Christian/Muslim religious texts a "The Big Book of Myths and Fables" just as I do the Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Native American myths and fables that propped up their gods/God. When engaged in religious debate, where the majority of participants are Christians, I tend to reference Christianity because, for the most part, it is the only religion with which Christians are familiar. As proved by several comments, on this blog, there are several Christians who are woefully ignorant of the tenets and history of Christianity.
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To anonymous 9:00...
If you believe decorating fir trees with shiny balls, glass ornaments and twinkle lights is, in anyway, a sign of celebrating a Christian Christmas then you are either an absolute idiot and/or a piss-poor Christian or just an Internet Troll. Believe it or not, to celebrate Christmas you have to believe it is "Christ's" birthday and actually worship as a Christian.

Christians did not even begin celebrating "Christmas/Christ's birth" until sometime around 400 ACE. The Christmas tree is a secular addition to the Christmas/Yule holiday. BTW...Santa Clause is a RETAIL addition to Christmas/Yule holiday.

Anonymous said...

funny that mz-prop referenced internet trolls. her whole scorched earth weirdness is troll behavior!

mzchief said...

To anonymous 7:44...
Congratulations, it seems like you and a couple of dim witted bleached blonds, have recently figured out what countless people realized, MONTHS ago.

Propagandist came about because Jarhead needed a guest blogger, while he partied his arse off in Las Vegas, during Easter. I wanted to guest blog but did not want to slog through, countless, mzchief bashing comments that would come from the feces flinging chimps who frequent The Blog.

Jarhead has always known the identity of Propagandist. Sili figured it out by the second day and most other, INTELLIGENT readers of The Blog were, long ago, aware of the identity of Propagandist. Barry was informed, of Propagandist's identity, within days of Propagandist's birth.

NOTHING published by Propagandist is contrary to my beliefs. I have had a great laugh at the number of people who assumed, due to the salty language, that Propagandist is male. Jarhead and I have had several good chuckles at that assumption.

As for "mzchief." I have explained several times, the alias "mzchief" is an adulteration of the nick-name "mischief." Due to my habit of playing pranks, hiding and pouncing as well as my mischievous nature and fun, at all costs, personality, my family called me "mischief" from a young age. The name "mischief" was taken thus I changed the spelling to "mzchief."

See, no big bird, no crap or flat rock which means, you are WRONG AGAIN.

wordkyle said...

mzchief - I bow to your superior knowledge of religion. I never knew that beards, robes and sandals were basic tenets of Christianity.

I'll not disparage your religious views, if they give you comfort and compel you to be a good person. However, let me point out that Christianity is no more ridiculous than your own beliefs, and that it has at least some historical documentation. I merely contest your over-simplified caricature of Christianity and oppose your harsh antagonism toward it.

Anonymous said...

...and Santa Claus ain't no cracker!!!

Anonymous said...

Mz on COH.....yes you did. You said you ..'prefer to follow it'..

If I gave a rats ass about proving you more wrong, I would dig it out and show you. You aren't worth the effort or time, tho.

You are all semantics.

Anonymous said...

..hmmmmm....so basically you worship E.T.?



Super Fake Steven Spielberg

Anonymous said...

Sounds like the Maharishi Effect mixed in with some Reiki and a touch of Rastafarian.

Mzchief said...

Shut up Mzchief !!

Anonymous said...

"Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consiousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.

Carl Spackler with the Dalai Lama.

mzchief said...

For people who want to know from where I obtained my FAITH in God.

I was raised by a devout Catholic and a devout Jew. I've been both confirmed and bat mitzvahed. Living both religions made me understand that God is big enough for more than one religion. That thinking fostered my interest in learning about the world's major religions and their histories. I've spent the majority of the past 15 years reading the religious texts, multiple interpretations of those texts and histories of the texts and religions featured within the texts. Learning a specific religion is a simple matter because there are all manner of people willing to tell/teach a person about "their" religion. It was upon learning the history of each religion that I realized the majority of them spoke of the same God just in a different context. Most religion is nothing more than the retelling and reinterpretation of the previous civilization's myths and fables. Elders or people within a society who wish to gain or maintain control of the society are the ones who establish the myths and fables that are to be adhered to and how they are interpreted. Historically, the interpretation and adherence of the myths and fables did not pertain to the people in charge of making certain the masses followed the rules.

That being the case, I never lost sight that there is indeed a God. However, God is just that, God and outside of the human experience and beyond human definition. God transcends human emotions but is manifested in the infinite goodness and brilliance of which humans are capable. It is my belief that it is humans who love God but God being God is incapable of something as simplistic as human emotion, which is why FAITH in God, has, since the dawn of human thought, granted humans the ability and inspiration to achieve great acts and greatness. It is the belief in God that has enabled humans to endure and overcome unimaginable hardship and achieve incredible feats.

As for my personal feelings toward religion. I believe most religions, by their very nature, interfere with people having a true relationship with God in that most religions first REQUIRE devotees believe in the religion before they can believe or know God. Christianity and Islam have set their prophets as demi-Gods. Trust me, I do not require the opinion of ANY man about God for me to know or love God. I do not require ANY rules of ANY man for me to know the inspiring touch of God. That being said, I certainly encourage all people who believe religion aids them in knowing and fostering a relationship with God, to seek a religion that best suits them but do not dare delude yourself into believing you/your religion knows all there is to know about God.

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Anonymous said...

What are you, mz, f-ing 10? You pretend to be someone else? Load up the meds. That's weird!

mzchief said...

To anonymous 6:44...
If there was a link to support your BS allegations that I have EVER claimed to "prefer to follow the COH." you and I both know you would have posted the link. Yes, semantics matter when YOU are putting words in another person's mouth or ascribing your own meaning to another person's words.

However, because I know what I say and believe I have found the link wherein my EXACT quote at 11:18 am, was:"I prefer, the Babylonian Code of Hammurabi written in approximately 1790 BCE and from which the condensed Big Book of Myths and Fables version was ripped-off." Make note, nowhere within that comment did I state that I lived by or abide by the Code of Hammurabi.

When are you jealous cretins going to get tired of being WRONG?

mzchief said...

To anonymous 8:01...
There is NOTHING wrong or weird with publishing a blog using an alias. You chastising someone for using a different alias to publish a blog from the one they use to comment is doubly absurd since you comment as "anonymous." Clearly, you lack conviction of your own comments to even bother to take ownership of ANY of your commentary.

I have NEVER submitted as anonymous.

Anonymous said...

Semantics once again. You said you prefer the COH.....oh, but wait.........NOT prefer to follow it. Oh................that's not what you meant.

Anonymous said...

As for your 7:26 post MZ:

You said:
..."I've spent the majority of the past 15 years reading the religious texts, multiple interpretations of those texts and histories of the texts and religions featured within the texts."

Well, guess what? After all that studying you have done, after reading your comments, you still have Christianity ALL WRONG.

Anonymous said...

What did you mean then when you said you prefer it?

Anonymous said...

mz, you are so easy. And diabolically weird. Propagandist posted stuff about his wife. Suppose that's your husband's alias? Fakey, fakey! haha

mzchief said...

To anonymous 8:49...
Cite where I "still have Christianity ALL WRONG." and provide sources to substantiate your allegations, otherwise, you are just another name calling know-nothing, Christian wannabe.
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To anonymous 8:50...
Read my comment at 4:21, addressed; To anon Code of Hammurabi, Gits and you will see my explanation of why "Personally, I prefer the entire Code of Hammurabi because it goes into greater detail as to the importance of being a respectful, honest, non-destructive member of society. The severity of punishment meted out in the COH is vital in informing people of how serious it was to breach the COH."

mzchief said...

To anonymous 9:09...
When Propagandist made mention of a spouse there was NEVER a reference to "wife" or a specific gender.

Provide a link of Propagandist EVER specifically identifying the gender of Prop-Spouse.

When are you haters going to get tired of being WRONG and realize you assume MOST of what you think you know about me?

Thanks for the laugh, doofus.

Anonymous said...

WOW! This got more comments than the Chico ISD Porta Potty blog entry.

Anonymous said...

and half of it is full of shit too! Haha