The socialism tourettes that plagues so many folks is getting to be a serious problem. There's a group of people who see anti-Americanism and socialism in every cloud.
So long as these folks are relegated to asylums and history books, I have no problem with it. But the illness seems to be spreading.
Hey! Isn't that Karl Marx in the spackle on my ceiling?
What a sad deal. The Board member that has created most of the concern regarding the Cscope curriculum is also a former teacher. The same individual that has worked for the District on not one but two different times. Leaving the District both times under clouded terms. The next question is why was she hired back ? A good question, perhaps the good old boy system or family relation had something to do with it. What you need to understand is the Cscope curriculum is very successful in most schools across the state. My question is how in the world does a Decatur ISD Board member still ethically function and remain in place when you think so little of the District YOU represent that you remove your own child from the school system.
2:23 Show me the stats that CSCOPE has been successful in most schools? I teach and everyone I've talked to in other disticts that uses it hates it!! It is a cheap alternative to actually have a curriculum director. It is an attempt to have a one size fits all system! It does not work! Some parts are useful but the content area is a joke! Be aware of any program in education that is secretive and all the experts associated with it are clueless. Region 11 people have no answers except just look it up yourself. I trust no program that can't even lineup it's pacing of material to match what will be on the STARR Test! It's a joke and most teachers and parents that are involved know this!!!!
Frankly, the C-scope discussions belong to those in education who have to deal with its effects. Parents should remain aware, but should very definitely listen to their child's classroom teachers about this curriculum. Other people have absolutely no idea what they are talking about when they spout one way or another concerning this and other so-called curriculum. Do let me inform you all of something you do know, and that you should keep in mind. Remember when you were a student in school? Remember the textbooks the state paid for and sent to the public schools and those texts had curriculum in them that the teachers taught? You know, the ones we had to put book covers on? Maybe you took a standardized test every 5 or 6 years to see how you were progressing. Recall those days? Do you feel like you received a good education?
Today, the state mandates our state approved standardized exams almost each year for students in practically every core subject. Businesses have jumped on the bandwagon and have written these "curricula" that will assure students' success on these tests! Well, that's just what they say. They are in competition with the state's textbook writers and their sales pitch is that "their" curricula, which can be purchased for say, oh, around $40,000 or more for larger schools, will cover all that is on these state tests. Well, then you see, another business starts up with another curriculum that is supposed to be better than the textbooks (which cost barely anything for schools) and most surely will beat the socks off the other business saying they have "the right approach." Since we have our schools "graded" based on student test performance, schools certainly want the "best" curriculum - so your tax dollars will be spent to purchase the "best" your money can buy, this year. Next year it will be a "newer" business with the absolute BEST at a higher cost!
If parents and schools will sound a resounding "STOP THIS CRAZINESS" to our legislators, then hopefully your tax dollars can go for other things like improved technology, better equipped science labs, etc. Can you all NOT see that this is all a money trail issue? People are falling for this "sales" pitch and feel like there is no way around it! Well, there is. And that is why you see the smart parents (and yes, the smart teachers) removing their children from public schools and placing them into private ones. Those who are not removing their children to those schools are "drinking the test-takers cool-aid!" Go to the board meetings. Ask why the state textbooks are not enough. Ask why schools would accept the state giving tests to the students that contain information that is not covered in the textbooks that come from the state to the schools at a much lower cost than these businesses "new and improved" curricula. Ask WHY the taxpayers should be paying for different curricula than what the state is supposed to be providing!
We have all become such lemmings and seems not many will take a stance to say "Hell NO! We are not going to buy into this money trail at the expense of our children's well-being and education!" The students are the pawns! How does that make you feel? To know your students are pawns in this ridiculous money game and it is their education that the state and these businesses hold in jeopardy!
When you see teachers and other educators removing their children from public schools, you better pay attention because they are the ones in the trenches and they SEE the truth of it all! To criticize them for leaving shows you to be the ignorant one.
So what you are saying is that the State Legislature, the State Board of Education, and the Business Community is to blame for increasing migration to private schools for which they would like to provide vouchers so that parents can send their children to private schools with taxpayer money?
Don't you think that it is strange that Republicans and the business community would like to drive money to the private sector? Capitalism?
So, lets imagine that the goal is to dismantle public education by having an unreachable standard that public school students, teachers, and administrators will all fail at so that your taxpayer money can go to a private school that has no accountability to taxpayers.
Do you really think that private schools will be just as accountable to taxpayers as public schools currently are? Imagine if public schools had the flexibility and standards that private schools enjoy. Imagine public schools without the burden of solving all the problems of every family and community that public schools currently have. Imagine if public schools could turn away any student that did not fit their "standards".
I have nothing against PRIVATE schools as long as they stay private. As soon as they receive my taxpayer dollars they should be required to follow every law, standard, and social burden that a public school bears.
Back to your original point. CScope is a symptom of a system that schools are desperately trying to be successful in. They are trying to succeed by the standards set by the state that has been under the control of Republicans over the past decade. The state has set incredibly high standards. Schools are expected to meet those standards. Unfortunately, in the next two years you will see an incredibly large number of schools FAIL through no fault of their own. By 2014, 100% of all students have to be passing or schools are considered failing in reading and math by the federal government, NCLB, and George W. Bush. If you think this is possible, given the "genetics" of our students, then you are as optimistic as the government. The state's system is so bad, they still have not published last year's scores from the STAAR test!
Please tell me why the school boards, administrators, and teachers are to blame? Why are they being attacked for a system completely out of their control?
I see a much bigger plot to demonize public schools by painting the champions of public schools, teachers and administrators, as enemies of the state by calling them socialists, atheists, Islamists, heathens, progressives, and any other label they might not be considered Christian and Capitalist.
The truth, as I know it, is that I personally have never met an educator, teacher or administrator, that wasn't a Christian, that lived by Christian values, that loved children, that cares for their well being, that only hopes for their success, that wants more for them than just a mere education. Their dream is to make a real difference in a child's life.
So, I suggest everyone take a step back, find out who is really mixing the kool aid, and lay off your neighbors, friends, dedicated teachers, dedicated administrators, and loyal board members, that are in our community. They are there to be part of a community, to feel the benefits of a community that is supportive, positive and know that we can all make a difference with our children by showing them what real community means.
9:45 believe me, the state school systems and the state legislators do NOT want vouchers to pass! Why would they want that? The business world couldn't care less about which school your kids attend because they are manipulating the public schools to no end and they know the public system will always exist because there are not enough parents who can afford the price of the private schools. Therefore, the businesses who sell these curriculum packages will continue to peddle their wares if the legislature doesn't do something to stop this OCD testing that's going on.
Your post is rather flip-floppy. First you sound as if you support the boards of education, the legislature and then you do a 180. Make up your mind.
I'm very conservative but republicans are very anti-public education! I believe they want us to fail and then tell all public schools to privatize because they are defunding them. Rationalize it by saying public schools are failing because students are failing the impossible to pass STARR Tests! These tests are stupid hard because the questions are asinine!! They then save the money and say that have cut our taxes!! Once again, I'm very conservative and usually vote Republican but on this issue I disagree with them! Fortunately the Texas Constitution says public education must be funded and would have to be amended to do this!!
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The socialism tourettes that plagues so many folks is getting to be a serious problem. There's a group of people who see anti-Americanism and socialism in every cloud.
So long as these folks are relegated to asylums and history books, I have no problem with it. But the illness seems to be spreading.
Hey! Isn't that Karl Marx in the spackle on my ceiling?
Momma says CSCOPE is the Devil.
DF Bobby Bouchet
Does CSCOPE sound like an unpleasant medical procedure to anyone else?
OBAMA HITLER MADE CSCOPE OUT OF ABORTED FETUSES AND WELFARE CHECKS!
Cranial Scope?
CSCOPE is why our school board sucks! It takes the good ol boy system out of Decatur and let's newcomers get a place on the square or reunion grounds.
What a sad deal. The Board member that has created most of the concern regarding the Cscope curriculum is also a former teacher. The same individual that has worked for the District on not one but two different times. Leaving the District both times under clouded terms. The next question is why was she hired back ? A good question, perhaps the good old boy system or family relation had something to do with it. What you need to understand is the Cscope curriculum is very successful in most schools across the state. My question is how in the world does a Decatur ISD Board member still ethically function and remain in place when you think so little of the District YOU represent that you remove your own child from the school system.
DISD board is a joke that is only in place to see that we get Turf and all the sports spending that WE the people voted to not have.
It's for the Kids they said.
Uhhm folks, Chico hates C-Sope too...
2:23 Show me the stats that CSCOPE has been successful in most schools? I teach and everyone I've talked to in other disticts that uses it hates it!! It is a cheap alternative to actually have a curriculum director. It is an attempt to have a one size fits all system! It does not work! Some parts are useful but the content area is a joke! Be aware of any program in education that is secretive and all the experts associated with it are clueless. Region 11 people have no answers except just look it up yourself. I trust no program that can't even lineup it's pacing of material to match what will be on the STARR Test! It's a joke and most teachers and parents that are involved know this!!!!
Frankly, the C-scope discussions belong to those in education who have to deal with its effects. Parents should remain aware, but should very definitely listen to their child's classroom teachers about this curriculum. Other people have absolutely no idea what they are talking about when they spout one way or another concerning this and other so-called curriculum.
Do let me inform you all of something you do know, and that you should keep in mind. Remember when you were a student in school? Remember the textbooks the state paid for and sent to the public schools and those texts had curriculum in them that the teachers taught? You know, the ones we had to put book covers on? Maybe you took a standardized test every 5 or 6 years to see how you were progressing. Recall those days? Do you feel like you received a good education?
Today, the state mandates our state approved standardized exams almost each year for students in practically every core subject. Businesses have jumped on the bandwagon and have written these "curricula" that will assure students' success on these tests! Well, that's just what they say. They are in competition with the state's textbook writers and their sales pitch is that "their" curricula, which can be purchased for say, oh, around $40,000 or more for larger schools, will cover all that is on these state tests. Well, then you see, another business starts up with another curriculum that is supposed to be better than the textbooks (which cost barely anything for schools) and most surely will beat the socks off the other business saying they have "the right approach."
Since we have our schools "graded" based on student test performance, schools certainly want the "best" curriculum - so your tax dollars will be spent to purchase the "best" your money can buy, this year. Next year it will be a "newer" business with the absolute BEST at a higher cost!
If parents and schools will sound a resounding "STOP THIS CRAZINESS" to our legislators, then hopefully your tax dollars can go for other things like improved technology, better equipped science labs, etc.
Can you all NOT see that this is all a money trail issue? People are falling for this "sales" pitch and feel like there is no way around it!
Well, there is. And that is why you see the smart parents (and yes, the smart teachers) removing their children from public schools and placing them into private ones. Those who are not removing their children to those schools are "drinking the test-takers cool-aid!"
Go to the board meetings. Ask why the state textbooks are not enough. Ask why schools would accept the state giving tests to the students that contain information that is not covered in the textbooks that come from the state to the schools at a much lower cost than these businesses "new and improved" curricula. Ask WHY the taxpayers should be paying for different curricula than what the state is supposed to be providing!
We have all become such lemmings and seems not many will take a stance to say "Hell NO! We are not going to buy into this money trail at the expense of our children's well-being and education!"
The students are the pawns! How does that make you feel? To know your students are pawns in this ridiculous money game and it is their education that the state and these businesses hold in jeopardy!
When you see teachers and other educators removing their children from public schools, you better pay attention because they are the ones in the trenches and they SEE the truth of it all! To criticize them for leaving shows you to be the ignorant one.
So what you are saying is that the State Legislature, the State Board of Education, and the Business Community is to blame for increasing migration to private schools for which they would like to provide vouchers so that parents can send their children to private schools with taxpayer money?
Don't you think that it is strange that Republicans and the business community would like to drive money to the private sector? Capitalism?
So, lets imagine that the goal is to dismantle public education by having an unreachable standard that public school students, teachers, and administrators will all fail at so that your taxpayer money can go to a private school that has no accountability to taxpayers.
Do you really think that private schools will be just as accountable to taxpayers as public schools currently are? Imagine if public schools had the flexibility and standards that private schools enjoy. Imagine public schools without the burden of solving all the problems of every family and community that public schools currently have. Imagine if public schools could turn away any student that did not fit their "standards".
I have nothing against PRIVATE schools as long as they stay private. As soon as they receive my taxpayer dollars they should be required to follow every law, standard, and social burden that a public school bears.
Back to your original point. CScope is a symptom of a system that schools are desperately trying to be successful in. They are trying to succeed by the standards set by the state that has been under the control of Republicans over the past decade. The state has set incredibly high standards. Schools are expected to meet those standards. Unfortunately, in the next two years you will see an incredibly large number of schools FAIL through no fault of their own. By 2014, 100% of all students have to be passing or schools are considered failing in reading and math by the federal government, NCLB, and George W. Bush. If you think this is possible, given the "genetics" of our students, then you are as optimistic as the government. The state's system is so bad, they still have not published last year's scores from the STAAR test!
Please tell me why the school boards, administrators, and teachers are to blame? Why are they being attacked for a system completely out of their control?
I see a much bigger plot to demonize public schools by painting the champions of public schools, teachers and administrators, as enemies of the state by calling them socialists, atheists, Islamists, heathens, progressives, and any other label they might not be considered Christian and Capitalist.
The truth, as I know it, is that I personally have never met an educator, teacher or administrator, that wasn't a Christian, that lived by Christian values, that loved children, that cares for their well being, that only hopes for their success, that wants more for them than just a mere education. Their dream is to make a real difference in a child's life.
So, I suggest everyone take a step back, find out who is really mixing the kool aid, and lay off your neighbors, friends, dedicated teachers, dedicated administrators, and loyal board members, that are in our community. They are there to be part of a community, to feel the benefits of a community that is supportive, positive and know that we can all make a difference with our children by showing them what real community means.
Here is some information about Victory Christian School:
http://victorychristianacademy.org/?page_id=88
9:45 believe me, the state school systems and the state legislators do NOT want vouchers to pass! Why would they want that? The business world couldn't care less about which school your kids attend because they are manipulating the public schools to no end and they know the public system will always exist because there are not enough parents who can afford the price of the private schools. Therefore, the businesses who sell these curriculum packages will continue to peddle their wares if the legislature doesn't do something to stop this OCD testing that's going on.
Your post is rather flip-floppy. First you sound as if you support the boards of education, the legislature and then you do a 180.
Make up your mind.
Senator Patrick Chairs the Senate Education Committee
http://tpr.org/post/sen-patrick-push-school-voucher-system
I'm very conservative but republicans are very anti-public education! I believe they want us to fail and then tell all public schools to privatize because they are defunding them. Rationalize it by saying public schools are failing because students are failing the impossible to pass STARR Tests! These tests are stupid hard because the questions are asinine!! They then save the money and say that have cut our taxes!! Once again, I'm very conservative and usually vote Republican but on this issue I disagree with them! Fortunately the Texas Constitution says public education must be funded and would have to be amended to do this!!
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