10.20.2009

Who Is Running This Thing? ACORN?

If an election were about criminal justice reform, would you want a ballot box in every bail bondsman office? If an election were about abortion, would you want a ballot box at every Planned Parenthood location? If an election were about a school bond issue, would you want a ballot box at a location where the parents of intermediate school kids (the ones who would use the improvements) would be sure to be?

38 comments:

Anonymous said...

We all have cut cut cut in County Government and yet the schools want more more more. I am opposed to any new bonds at the present time. Yes we need room, but do the schools realize that there are a lot of people that DO NOT have a job right now. I called the Sup. at Bridgeport and apparently he does not give a shit that some dont have a job. He talked for about an hour on how Bridgeport is behind and that they need a new school. Hell they need to cater to the teaching not the decor the kids sit in

Anonymous said...

The last election had a very small percentage of voters actually vote. They just want to make it more convenient for the voters. Smart I think!!

M-M said...

It's a strategy DISD has mastered ever since the high school bond election days.

Anonymous said...

Deeeeeeeeeevious!! VOTE NO!!

Anonymous said...

Just FYI… They were passing out the (Ass-tro-terf) school bond propaganda yesterday to parents as we were dropping kids off at Rann Ele. Most of what was listed looked as if it should have been taken care of by normal upkeep and regular maintenance. What the hell do they do with our school tax dollars?? I am all for “EDUCATION” but I don’t want to be paying extra for touch downs! This is all compounded with the fact that they nickel and dime parents to death.

Example: I just shelled out a $9.00 roller blade/skate rental fee for a fifth grade P.E class.

BTW-Does anyone want or need any cookie dough, fruit or other holiday candy and junk?

Anonymous said...

All I have to go on is what you, Barry Green, are reporting...

But based on that, at least, this is completely outrageous. And to Anonymous at 10:12, yes, they want to make it more convenient, but not for "the voters", just for the right kind of voters. That is, the voters most likely to vote yes. And sure, you can call it "smart", in the sense that it is a smart way to rig the election. But I wouldn't call it "fair".

And then also I'm wondering, if you just show up to vote, do they still charge you the $4 for the beans and cornbread? Or do they offer you beans and cornbread but only if you promise to vote for the bonds?

mzchief said...

Can you say, RIGGED election?

When elected officials pander to the whims and wants of any one group, regardless of the benefit and wishes of those paying the tab, it is time to get rid of the pandering elected officials.

VOTE NO TO ANY INCUMBENT running for reelection.

wordkyle said...

Is the school a usual place for voting during general elections? Or is this an unusual instance for this one election?

If it's not an unusual occurrence to have voting at the school, I wouldn't think there's anything wrong with it in this case. Do we want to make voting unusually difficult for voters who stand to benefit from a particular vote?

A Frequent Reader said...

Do I take it from your headline that you are critical of ACORN and its practices? If so, I guess I'm surprised. It seems your usual stance on anything involving scandle associated with liberal politicians, organizations, etc., is to defend it or be silent, but never to criticize it.

Anonymous said...

If ACORN was running it, they would be serving fried chicken and watermelon.

Anonymous said...

I am for the bond, but I agree that these unusual voting opportunities have more to do with getting the vote they want out than it does getting the Vote out.
I bet they don't take ballots to the country club this weekend or sit in front of Walmart with the ballot box. Let's vote on the Decatur turf on the Battle of Big Sandy night...just for grins! At halftime of course.

Anonymous said...

The DISD board was help hostage to the voting locations by a majority of 4. The board was also held hostage by the same 4 in packaging the bond into one proposition instead of two propositions. Before you decide to vote all the incumbents out please do your research to determine the facts.

Please make informed decisions about the people who give their time and efforts to be good public servants.

Anonymous said...

Will they have the signs out that forbid electioneering within a number of feet from the lacation??? I see election improprierties here. Those for these bonds could care less about the law. They just want more & more money.

Anonymous said...

The Soup (Superintendent) said at the public meeting that they (he) wanted to buy 2100 laptops for grades 6-12. There are only 2200 + a few in all the schools. Someone cannot add. Just put the money out and we will find a way to spend it is the way the school board sees it. A banker friend one time said "Church money and School money is nobody's money, because the one writing the checks does not have to us his OWN money."

Anonymous said...

Well, let's be honest, if you don't have a problem with the way ACORN operates, because you believe it's a Republican conspiracy, and the fact the Federal Government cut them off, for one month, they begin getting their money back next month, look into it. The American public was told they (ACORN) would be cut off just to make us happy, they just didn't say how long. O.K. back to my thought. If you're O.K. with what ACORN has done then having people vote at the scools shouldn't be a problem. If you want true propaganda, pay close attention to the Obama Administration. O.K., here it comes,I'm putting on my batting helment, go ahead.

Anonymous said...

Bridgeport voters:

Are you being snookered? Athletics is not on the ballot/bond. However, has your administrator promised turf and indoor practice field off the table for now?

New bond money will allow the Booster Boys in Bridpt to go ahead and build their indoor practice field and turf with reserve dollars.

Anonymous said...

Barry, what say we go to that cornbread & beans supper. We can both get gassed up & take turns pulling each other's fingers. We'll have rootin tootin good time.

Anonymous said...

Decatur voters:

All groups are promised access to the new turf. Wanna bet?

Everyone have access to the current practice fields now?

You can expect "charges" and fees that are so expenseve no one can come up with them. Old facilities will be free.

Soccer parents, you too are being duped. Why the concern for soccer only when they need your votes to pass a bond. Where has the DISD board been these last few years.

Soccer Moms, can your kids practice on the practice field now?

Anonymous said...

DISD sends almost 40% of their current revenue they get for school operations to the state because of Robin Hood. The district gets to keep 100% of all Bond Funds.

Believe it or not, Decatur is rich, but the state makes you send 40 cents of ever dollar to them to help poorer school districts.

If you pass the bond, 100 cents of your dollar stays with the district for your community's benefit and not for another's.

This is a whole separate issue of whether you agree with what will be purchased with those funds. You can argue about that all you want.

Anonymous said...

It may be time to do the math.
Decatur and Bridgeport are both Chapter 41 Districts.
This means both districts must send a portion of their Maintenance and Operation Revenue to the State.
This is called Robin Hood!
You know: "Taking from the rich and giving to the poor.
Bond Revenue...is not subject to Robin Hood.
That means 100% of every dollar stays in Wise County.

I appears the real decision is whether we want to split the money with the State or keep it local!

What do you think?

Anonymous said...

somebody is campaigning really hard

there is no conflict with putting polling places at schools - you are just as likely to get anti votes as pro votes

Anonymous said...

I don't care if 100% of the bond money stays in Decatur. I don't want my tax dollars paying for a turf field when there are many academic needs in DISD that should be more of a priority.

M-M said...

2:42 is a booster boy or has been duped by one of their flyers. It's more like 25% goes to Austin.

2:25 is correct. The booster boys never cared that Story made soccer practice down at the middle school and play their games down there. Not good enough for the practice fields behind the high school or to play their games at the stadium. But now they only care because they want those votes. Don't fall for it soccer parents.

Anonymous said...

Would we be having this bond election if the school board had decided to pay for the turf? I have a feeling that all the other stuff "for the kids" wouldn't matter so much if that had happened. In fact, it most likely wouldn't matter at all.

3:41--They aren't only targeting soccer parents. They are going after the band parents because "if we have turf, the marching band would be able to practice even if it has rained."

Anonymous said...

Bridgeports taxes will continue to increase despite
the bad economy and no jobs. Those with no jobs probably don't have the option of owning a home, therefore they rent, therefore no taxes. Remember afterall it is about the kids and giving them the tools and the education to have a successful life. Also to instill a sense of pride in our school. Vote yes or vote no, just exercise your right to vote.

Mr. Mike Honcho said...

I don't care how you rationalize it... DON'T SPEND MY TAX MONEY ON CRAP WE DON'T NEED.

DO WE REALLY NEED TO SEND LAPTOPS HOME WITH EVERY STUDENT? So my Elementary and Int school students can come home and play with it like all the teachers do now?

(you know... the same teachers that worked under security pushed so tight by the district on their PCs that you couldn't go to ANY websites... but now with their MacBooks there is ZERO security on them?)

ITS MY MONEY. YOU WORK FOR ME. QUIT TRYING TO SNEAK STUFF BY ME IN ELECTIONS.

Anonymous said...

Those of you citing 40% and 25% of local school taxes going to Austin need to cite your references.

I think you are exaggerating by a great deal.

And even if true, does that justify the ethics of moving ballot boxes around to school events where people are expected to be more inclined to vote yes.

Early voting hours as well as the actual voting day more than "make it convenient" for the voter.

Anonymous said...

The ISD's mentioned are playing loose with the facts. They like to talk about the "average home" and the "frozen homestead"

Bottom line, few of us live in average homes. Many senior citizens have property (that doesn't produce income) that is not homestead......therefore subject to the whole tax.

And voters, remember to keep the Weatherford 5 cent tax already approved in mind. Decatur and Bridgeport citizens could easily be facing a 10 cent increase in their tax rate.

Anonymous said...

10:12

What tree have you fallen out of.

Convenience isn't at play here. Winning is the goal.......more money to spend, more money to spend, more money to spend, more money too spend.

These same administrators and Mickey Hand have pulled off a miracle on the Sandy. We seem to be the only place in America where home values are still increasing.

All around me are young couples without jobs........and no prospect of one .......and certainly not one that willhelp them keep their mortgages paid up.

The bond elections in these two communities only illustrate the callousness, selfishness, of our school leadership including our boards.

Anonymous said...

BISD admin planned activities at the schools to get people up there, then get them to vote. No coincidence!

Anonymous said...

vote no to the bonds if the common man cant afford to have a few luxuries then the schools can go and strech the dollar just as we are. secondaly if they want to get money get rid of the illegals in the schools

Anonymous said...

Bad boys, bad boys.
What'cha gonna' do? When the turf rolls over you?

Anonymous said...

Its time to stop what you are doing and go VOTE NO on the school election in Decatur. I dont have a handout to give you all I can do is ask you to vote NO!

Anonymous said...

If the schools want to keep 100% of the money instead of sending whatever amount to Austin, then put up bonds for REAL NEEDS, not "wants!" Turf is a bond killer. I thank the Board for giving us citizens the opportunity to have our voices heard with this vote. Problem is, if it is voted YES, then we have nothing to say about the irresponsible spending. So, get out and vote NO! Take your friends with you!!

Anonymous said...

BISD has lost my normally supportive vote due to idiotic spending and spending proposals. One example: converting the entire district to Apple computers at more than double the cost of PCs. Thus obsolescing a load of PCs and requiring conversion training - all to move to the minority Apple (9%)computer system over the PCs (88%) at excessive costs. Idiots.

Anonymous said...

I would rather my money go to needier districts in the state than to artificial turf here.

Anonymous said...

Me too, 11:19!! Very good point!

Anonymous said...

I agree with earlier comments on locating voting in a school for a school bond issue. And then holding special events there seems to be a further violation of the no-electioneering near the polls restriction. Just seems wrong to me.