This is a sign of how many people have lost their jobs and can't afford to eat out for lunch and breakfast. The best way to save money is to cook at home.
9:58 - Maybe if their food was better they would have more diners! Don't blame the government for this one! I wish all my downfalls could be blamed on someone else. Take matters into your own hands and live accordingly! Where are all the people on this blog saying it is their fault for not budgeting correctly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with 10:30. The food was not that good; there are many better places to eat in Decatur that this one! Also, agree with the statement that THEY were responsible for not managing their own finances...goes back to taking responsibility for one's own business, life, actions, etc. They won't be missed!
Decatur ISD is one of the parties to which the unpaid taxes are owed, therefore, DISD is a party in the lawsuit. The other parties listed are also owed unpaid taxes.
We would call in for breakfast to go in the mornings and it would take 45 minutes!!!! Scrambled eggs and toast!!! Come on - that turnaround time is RIDICULOUS! They were their worst enemy. NOT THE GOVERNMENT
The food used to be good a long time ago but she let that place go years ago. I think she stopped caring about anything! The food was mediocre, the waitresses were soooooo rude and the decor was disgusting! Hopefully a cafe will come in a give that place a makeover. It is so sad because if ran right, a restaurant would do great on the square with as many men and woman that work so close!
Sucks but this is a part of business. Probably like the rest of us got "fat" during gas boom. Some didn't adjust during slow down or had gotten there lifestyle way out of wack. Slow down puts them out of business like many many others. What truly sux is this very laughable administration preaches and promotes the idea that the things they are doing are to protect just these type people when in reality all they are doing is taking care of the people that voted for them. In reality government has gotten so big that itself is the biggest fraud and biggest waste. They got there lifestyle up during the boom except we all have to suffer and pay to keep there's going and growing unlike the people at the local cafe.
MzCheif, It is not the taxes. I suppose that you do not use Tax supported things like Roads, Fire Departments, Police or Sheriff's Dept. just to name a few. You think you are so smart, but statements like yours show how domb you are.
I am so tired of people blaming of all of their shortcomings on the government. When you don't know the spelling difference of "there" and "their" -is this the government's mistake?
If you don't write down a check in your check register and you bounce a check, I guess that's the government's fault as well!
I pay my taxes on a fixed income and if I can't pay my bills, it's my fault! Plain and simple!
As far as the government "only" helping out the people who voted for them...unbelievable! My house payment, utilities, grocery bills, etc. have gone up and/or have stayed the same since the election...what's your point? I don't think they look any different than yours!
The problem is more than likely due to the fact that there are over 24 dining establishments in Decatur, a town of 5,000 people. It's not surprising that they had to close but it is surpising that more haven't. Saturation, not the ecomomy.
It's simple. When you pay for your food there is tax added to your bill. You pay the total. The establishment is responsible for paying to the state the funds received from you for the tax to be then paid to the county, school, etc... Basically she was charging you tax then pocketing it instead of turning it over to the state. Stealing is another term for actions like those.
Amen, 11:45. You can't blame this failure on the gov. The food was awful, service slow, stupid people if they didn't realize they had to pay taxes. I just don't get how this is anyone's fault but the owner's. Stop trying to blame people's poor financial responsibility on the gov!!!!
There's a new place that popped up about 6 months ago. It has flourished mainly by word of mouth. It has a cutsie name that I can not remember. It's the Main Street Home & Garden store and they have a cafe in the back. SERVICE and good food keeps restaurants in business.
12:13 Not that simple. The tax collected with your bill is not the one specified here. This is the county property tax and the school tax. These taxes are based on the value of your property. I own a business in Wise County and if I don't do a nickle's worth of business I still owe $9,500 in these two taxes. If I don't pay them I'm not stealing, I'm just broke.
11:45 this isnt a sales tax issue. It is a property tax issues. The sales tax is paid to the state comptroller. Everyone pays property tax and they (owner) knew they were in arrears. The taxing authorities do not want your property, trust me. They'd rather you pay even if it is installments. Don't think for a minute this happened suddenly. Multiple notices were received and the restaurant owner chose to avoid paying. Simple truth: pay your bills or get out of business. No shame in it...just be responsible and if you are unable, find something else.
12:47 We have enough hamburger joints in town. The cafe had potential but also had a horrid owner. The white haired witch would run off the customers and the wait staff. I have seen her yell at her employees on several occasions and even scream at them for dropping a dish. She did a horrible job running the place and as stated earlier she was her own worst enemy. Food shouldn't take forty five minutes to get to your table when it's the posted special in the window. My question is, did she owe taxes and if so how much? Do you remember that this is what happened to Schlotzsky's?
WHILE I THINK THAT THE RESTAURANT HAD IT'S PROBLEMS...RESTAURANTS WITH LOW VOLUME HAVE EXTREME PROBLEMS WITH FOOD COST,LABOR FIXED EXPENSES, AND ALL THE TAXING ENTITES WITH THEIR HANDS OUT.
Has anyone heard the news about the hot water in the bathrooms at Sweetie Pies? Heard it burned a kid's fingers off and now he has a big hook on one of his hands and now he walks around with a patch over one of his eyes going "ARRRRRGHHH!".
mzchief - guess those teachers' salaries don't qualify as "job creation" in your world. Guess we should do away with taxes so that crap restaurants like this can exist.
you should think a little more before you fire off a post like that. you certainly have the intelligence.
Sarah rented this building. Why would SHE own the property taxes? Those should be paid by the owner of the building. Was she being taxed on her business? Is it closing because Sarah didn't pay her taxes or because the building owner didn't pay? Which one?
The times I went there, the wait staff was very polite and efficent. The food I thought was very good. The wait time was very, very long. I do not mind the wait time if I do not have to get back to work during lunch hour. After one bad experience about having to get back to work after a long wait, I would just go when I did not have lunch hour restrictions. I enjoyed the place and had no bad experiences except the one needing to go back to work within a set time. Off work, It did not bother me. It was cooked when ordered. Hamburgers were the best in town since K-Bobs shut down. I will miss the Court House Cafe.
I grew both of my babies on Courthouse Cafe grilled chicken Caesar salads and hamburgers. CC will always have a special place in my heart. I loved that place.
Does anyone know if buisiness tax sales are run along the same lines as a residential tax sale? If so then they do not happen after just one year of not paying taxes but multiple, usually 3, years of unpaid property taxes.
I ate breakfast there several times and found it very tasty- easily the best breakfast food in Decatur.
Very sad when a business goes under regardless of reason even if it's related to illegal antics- we all lose, especially the people who depended on the place for a job.
Last ate at Courthouse Cafe about 3years ago & said I would never return. Food was overpriced & Owner was rude always!! - New great place to eat on the north side of the square is Cabbage Patch Cafe at 112 W. Walnut. Julie is a great cook - good service & decent prices.
Cabbage Patch isn't open nearly enough. Seems to be only catering to "square" workers. They could probably do much more business if they were open in evening hours.
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This is a sign of how many people have lost their jobs and can't afford to eat out for lunch and breakfast. The best way to save money is to cook at home.
This is TAXES at work. Contrary to what government would have people believe, taxes do NOT create jobs and/or help small businesses.
Food just isn't as important as it used to be.
More of those "Low On Funds" signs to follow.
Had enough "CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN" yet? I'm about ready to holler calf rope myself!
Where's the Wise County beggar? I need to borrow his sign.
9:58 - Maybe if their food was better they would have more diners! Don't blame the government for this one! I wish all my downfalls could be blamed on someone else. Take matters into your own hands and live accordingly! Where are all the people on this blog saying it is their fault for not budgeting correctly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Calling it like it is!
I'm sorry for not understanding but what does the Decatur ISD have to do with this?
10:31
TAXES!!! DUH!!!!
Never could get out of there on-time during the lunch hour... waaaaaaaay too slow.
Good food, but they never understood what "lunch hour" meant.
10:31, the Decatur ISD is a taxing entity involved in the suit against the cafe.
I agree with 10:30. The food was not that good; there are many better places to eat in Decatur that this one! Also, agree with the statement that THEY were responsible for not managing their own finances...goes back to taking responsibility for one's own business, life, actions, etc. They won't be missed!
Decatur ISD is one of the parties to which the unpaid taxes are owed, therefore, DISD is a party in the lawsuit. The other parties listed are also owed unpaid taxes.
Double Fake Taxman
We would call in for breakfast to go in the mornings and it would take 45 minutes!!!! Scrambled eggs and toast!!! Come on - that turnaround time is RIDICULOUS! They were their worst enemy. NOT THE GOVERNMENT
The food used to be good a long time ago but she let that place go years ago. I think she stopped caring about anything! The food was mediocre, the waitresses were soooooo rude and the decor was disgusting! Hopefully a cafe will come in a give that place a makeover. It is so sad because if ran right, a restaurant would do great on the square with as many men and woman that work so close!
Sucks but this is a part of business. Probably like the rest of us got "fat" during gas boom. Some didn't adjust during slow down or had gotten there lifestyle way out of wack. Slow down puts them out of business like many many others. What truly sux is this very laughable administration preaches and promotes the idea that the things they are doing are to protect just these type people when in reality all they are doing is taking care of the people that voted for them. In reality government has gotten so big that itself is the biggest fraud and biggest waste. They got there lifestyle up during the boom except we all have to suffer and pay to keep there's going and growing unlike the people at the local cafe.
I can't see the pictures....what business is it?
What was wrong with my Floors & More comment??
That is sad about the Courthouse Cafe. They had great food and it was a neat place for folks to gather.
I wish them well.
MzCheif, It is not the taxes. I suppose that you do not use Tax supported things like Roads, Fire Departments, Police or Sheriff's Dept. just to name a few. You think you are so smart, but statements like yours show how domb you are.
Jim -
I am so tired of people blaming of all of their shortcomings on the government. When you don't know the spelling difference of "there" and "their" -is this the government's mistake?
If you don't write down a check in your check register and you bounce a check, I guess that's the government's fault as well!
I pay my taxes on a fixed income and if I can't pay my bills, it's my fault! Plain and simple!
As far as the government "only" helping out the people who voted for them...unbelievable! My house payment, utilities, grocery bills, etc. have gone up and/or have stayed the same since the election...what's your point? I don't think they look any different than yours!
Give Me A Break!
Higher taxes beating down businesses is an issue and does drive small business into the ground.
And.... the food and/or service might have been bad and drove them into the ground.
Maybe hot waitresses in skimpy outfits would have helped the food taste better and made the service seem faster.
Why in the world are people mentioning the federal government as having any culpability in this this?
These are local taxes they didn't pay. And like some others said, their food wasn't that great anyway.
The problem is more than likely due to the fact that there are over 24 dining establishments in Decatur, a town of 5,000 people. It's not surprising that they had to close but it is surpising that more haven't. Saturation, not the ecomomy.
It's simple. When you pay for your food there is tax added to your bill. You pay the total. The establishment is responsible for paying to the state the funds received from you for the tax to be then paid to the county, school, etc... Basically she was charging you tax then pocketing it instead of turning it over to the state. Stealing is another term for actions like those.
What does everyone think about a hamburger joint going in there? it does sound good fresh meat and veg. we need it here now not prefab food.vote now
Amen, 11:45. You can't blame this failure on the gov. The food was awful, service slow, stupid people if they didn't realize they had to pay taxes. I just don't get how this is anyone's fault but the owner's. Stop trying to blame people's poor financial responsibility on the gov!!!!
There's a new place that popped up about 6 months ago. It has flourished mainly by word of mouth. It has a cutsie name that I can not remember. It's the Main Street Home & Garden store and they have a cafe in the back. SERVICE and good food keeps restaurants in business.
12:13
Not that simple. The tax collected with your bill is not the one specified here. This is the county property tax and the school tax. These taxes are based on the value of your property. I own a business in Wise County and if I don't do a nickle's worth of business I still owe $9,500 in these two taxes. If I don't pay them I'm not stealing, I'm just broke.
11:45 this isnt a sales tax issue. It is a property tax issues. The sales tax is paid to the state comptroller. Everyone pays property tax and they (owner) knew they were in arrears. The taxing authorities do not want your property, trust me. They'd rather you pay even if it is installments. Don't think for a minute this happened suddenly. Multiple notices were received and the restaurant owner chose to avoid paying. Simple truth: pay your bills or get out of business. No shame in it...just be responsible and if you are unable, find something else.
12:47
We have enough hamburger joints in town. The cafe had potential but also had a horrid owner. The white haired witch would run off the customers and the wait staff. I have seen her yell at her employees on several occasions and even scream at them for dropping a dish. She did a horrible job running the place and as stated earlier she was her own worst enemy. Food shouldn't take forty five minutes to get to your table when it's the posted special in the window. My question is, did she owe taxes and if so how much? Do you remember that this is what happened to Schlotzsky's?
She had good cookies. They were really expensive, but good.
12:13 While your statement is correct for trust fund taxes (i.e. Sales Tax), the tax sale is for property taxes, a different animal.
Most people are too fat anyway. No big loss here
WHILE I THINK THAT THE RESTAURANT HAD IT'S PROBLEMS...RESTAURANTS WITH LOW VOLUME HAVE EXTREME PROBLEMS WITH FOOD COST,LABOR FIXED EXPENSES, AND ALL THE TAXING ENTITES WITH THEIR HANDS OUT.
I've been to the Main Strret Cafe and Feed Store once. Once. I will not go back. Same thing as with the Courthouse Cafe, over priced and slow service.
Has anyone heard the news about the hot water in the bathrooms at Sweetie Pies? Heard it burned a kid's fingers off and now he has a big hook on one of his hands and now he walks around with a patch over one of his eyes going "ARRRRRGHHH!".
mzchief - guess those teachers' salaries don't qualify as "job creation" in your world. Guess we should do away with taxes so that crap restaurants like this can exist.
you should think a little more before you fire off a post like that. you certainly have the intelligence.
Fried Pie Shop next?
Sarah rented this building. Why would SHE own the property taxes? Those should be paid by the owner of the building. Was she being taxed on her business? Is it closing because Sarah didn't pay her taxes or because the building owner didn't pay? Which one?
The taxes are on the property she owned like ovens, tables, chairs, etc. used in the business.
The pie shoppe pays it's bills.
Quit slamming innocent businesses.
Dairy Queen has cleaner bathrooms, and fried catfish.
Double Fake Adrian Monk
The times I went there, the wait staff was very polite and efficent. The food I thought was very good. The wait time was very, very long. I do not mind the wait time if I do not have to get back to work during lunch hour. After one bad experience about having to get back to work after a long wait, I would just go when I did not have lunch hour restrictions. I enjoyed the place and had no bad experiences except the one needing to go back to work within a set time. Off work, It did not bother me. It was cooked when ordered. Hamburgers were the best in town since K-Bobs shut down. I will miss the Court House Cafe.
How is the new Sushi place on 287?
i will never eat there again!!
double fake pizza hut slut
I grew both of my babies on Courthouse Cafe grilled chicken Caesar salads and hamburgers. CC will always have a special place in my heart. I loved that place.
Does anyone know if buisiness tax sales are run along the same lines as a residential tax sale? If so then they do not happen after just one year of not paying taxes but multiple, usually 3, years of unpaid property taxes.
I ate breakfast there several times and found it very tasty- easily the best breakfast food in Decatur.
Very sad when a business goes under regardless of reason even if it's related to illegal antics- we all lose, especially the people who depended on the place for a job.
Last ate at Courthouse Cafe about 3years ago & said I would never return. Food was overpriced & Owner was rude always!! - New great place to eat on the north side of the square is Cabbage Patch Cafe at 112 W. Walnut. Julie is a great cook - good service & decent prices.
Cabbage Patch isn't open nearly enough. Seems to be only catering to "square" workers. They could probably do much more business if they were open in evening hours.
We said we're open 24/7, it's just that we're only open 24 hours in 7 days.
Cabbage Patch is good food served very SLOOOOOOOOWLY.
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