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4.01.2009

Wreck In Paradise

Careflight (or whatever we call it) is in the background. (Thanks emailer John)

39 comments:

Anonymous said...

any news to mention????

Anonymous said...

Same intersection where they have finally put a traffic light? And we STILL have bad wrecks there! That intersection is HAUNTED...only explanation!

Anonymous said...

lifestar.

Anonymous said...

Man, that's a $10,000 helicopter ride, whether you need it or not. Don't be fooled into thinking this ain't about the money.

It is.

Anonymous said...

10k my butt, try 18k

one who knows

Anonymous said...

If the wreck don't kill you, the price of the helicopter will

Anonymous said...

It is called a helicopter in the background. An expensive helicopter that is! Typical WC driver, failed to yield right of way. Worse than driving in the metro mess.

Anonymous said...

It doesn't have to cost that much!!!! You can purchase an annual membership for never more than $60.00 and then you don't have to worry about that $14,000 ride.

Anonymous said...

i hope that the gentle man that the rock hauler assualted is able to recover with as little pain as possible. as for the truck driver i hope they take his licenesse if he even has one. the stop sign has been at that intersection for a long time.

Anonymous said...

What if you needed it and it wasn't there.

Anonymous said...

How bout thinking about that person who obviously needed that helicopter ride. That is what auto and medical insurance is for! FYI the EMS in this county don't just ship you off by helicopter if you don't need it! Pray for those people involved instead of berating them in their absence!

Anonymous said...

Wise County EMS Abuses Life star I would be willing to say that 95% of the people that WCEMS fly by Life star or any other Emergency helicopter service does not need to be flown. I work in the EMS field and have seen some of the patients that they fly and they do not need to be flown. Most of the people that they fly are released from the ER in the same day or the next day. ABUSE ABUSE ABUSE. IF the air ambulance is needed I don’t have a problem with the air ambulance. All WCEMS is doing is keeping Life star in Business. Heck WCEMS employees even work for Life star and Life star people work for WCEMS. The average cost to ride in an air ambulance is around 20,000 BUCKS.

Anonymous said...

I go thru that intersection everyday. Countless times I have seen rock trucks run red lights. We are lucky there arent more deaths there.

Anonymous said...

Maybe the Messenger should do an investigative report on Lifestar, and maybe some other so called "unecessary" testing, etc. at Wise Regional......

It'll never happen.

And we all know why.

Anonymous said...

Real story: I took a ride to Ft. Worth via helicopter ambulance two years ago.
It started with an ambulance ride to Wise Regional by WCEMS. The ambulance crew did a great job, I was in the worst pain imaginable, my safety, comfort and pain were well managed, they did a great job. They were also helpful and courteous to my wife who had to ride along.

Once at the hospital, they didn't have a Dr. that could treat an injury as serious as mine. I was put on a helicopter and flown to Ft. Worth.

The helicopter ride was about 14k, after insurance my portion was around $2500.00 or so. I made monthly payments until the balance was about $1200.00, and negotiated a final one time payment of $600.00.

The memebership is a good idea, but do your due dillegence on the details. It is not a totally free ride. I believe they waive your deductible if you have insurance. Without insurance, I'm not sure.

Anonymous said...

I hope they are okay....
W/ that being said I hope they didnt have a OilField Trash sticker and was putting in a Dip of snuff while listening to Tolby Keith and Traveling from the Bay to Boyd...just saying

Anonymous said...

Just a thought about who decides if you get hit by a 18 wheeler about which emergency room you go to. Does the EMS pick Doctors Hospital or Wise Regional? Does the injured person have a say in the matter?

Are do you take a ride in the helicopter that makes its home in Decatur straight to a trauma center in the metroplex and who is deciding? Some one at Wise Regional?

Follow the money and where is it going. No way is the Messenger going to touch this hot topic. Not as long as they owe money to Roy Eaton, who has a big say in everything that goes on in this county.

Anonymous said...

The gentleman in the accident is the father of our dyslexia teacher here at Bridgeport Elementary. He is in ICU but is stable. Pray for the family and for a speedy recovery.

Anonymous said...

Most group insurance has limited coverage for air ambulance and most individual policies only allow around 2K for it. Not near enough. The membership is a grand idea. Most people blow through $60 in candy bars a month.

On the other hand I have heard stories of people getting flown for what seems to be bogus reasons. However most of those guys were flown from the Hospital in Decatur. One I know for sure was a dislocated elbow that needed surgery.

As far as the EMS goes they are suppose to take a patient where they request to go if there is a choice. They are also suppose to take a patient where they think the injured patient can be best served. Until the ER's have comparible trauma ratings sometimes the EMS will have to drive by Bridgeport.

Anonymous said...

you bunch of whine asses.....we have protocal on what we can fly and what we can't. If we save your life 14k is a little price to pay.......people need to think about life and not what it costs to fly in a damn helicopter!

Anonymous said...

I was there...it scared the crap out of me...that 18 wheeler came right at me and a couple other cars and took off over the railroad tracks almost into a house. We tried to help the lady inside, but her doors were locked. I had to tell some guys not to kick in the passenger window (if anything the back window) to get to her...he probably would have cut his leg and glass would have flow all over her (bad idea)
For a small car like that being hit by an eighteen wheeler I thought it was strange that none of the side windows were busted!

Anonymous said...

with lifestar's membership wether yo have insurance or not you will pay nothing for thier services. the comment about wcems abusing the use of lifestar i find hard to believe. the call is made for lifestar to fly to get a patient to an apporiate medical facility. when the call goes to them they come and pick up the patient and have them at the level 1 trauma center in around 20 minutes which is great because the sooner a person receives proper treatment the much better thier chances of a full recovery. now as far as the cost goes why arent you a member when you know the cost of a flight is around 15000 dollars and for no more that 60 dollars per year you would not have to worry wethere you flew or not on the helicopter. i remember seeing an ad on the wc messenger update site for this service and will try to find the phone number to call and post it so that intrested parties can call

Anonymous said...

The county bought the insurance for all of its employees. One council member said it was a "no brainer". I think if people that work for the county want the insurance they should pay for it themselves. Financing this county employee benefit with taxpayer money is an outrage.

Anonymous said...

Your protocal has room for judgement built in. That is whats being questioned. Do you actually think someone laying in a bar ditch or going through extreme pain is going to question your judgement? They are going to believe what ever comes out of your mouth and by the statement above it doesn't look to be very intelligent.

Is Lifestar nonprofit? Do they file suit if you can't afford it? Are you guys in charge held liable for flying someone who doesn't end up needing it?

Careflight is nonprofit and they accept what payment is given. Whether it be insurance or the ten bucks a month you send.

We may be whiners but you sir are a jackass.

Anonymous said...

My grandmother was in a car accident and WCEMS had her flown to Fort Worth. I was very grateful of that.. especially since she was not taken to Wise Regional. She did need to be flown to a trauma center and she received excellent treatment. Anyone who gets flown to Fort Worth is a lot better off than those who wind up at Wise Regional or Bridgeport. If your injuries don't kill you,,, the treatment you would receive (or not receive) will.

Anonymous said...

Way to put it 10:38!

I would pay any amount of money to be flown in the air ambulance then go to Wise Regional where they will kill you!!!

Anonymous said...

Careflight? Lifestar?

Are these competing services? Who decides which to call? What are the relative costs? What pre-event programs are available for either?

Anonymous said...

10:03 needs to take a real good look at his hero care flite yes they are a 501c3 corp. which only means that they have to spend all of the money the make on their company seems to me everybody is doing that now days as for their debt compassion don't count on it after my son's insurence paid $7,000.00 on an $11,000.00 bill they placed his account with a collection agency from California in less than 90 days. You might visit their website and check their affiliations I will assure you that no matter what you have wrong you will go to one of their sponsor hospitals. Don't take my word for it check it out your self, and by the way you might do that while you are waiting for them to fly out here from the metroplex to pick-up one of your loved ones the 20 min. that takes will seem like an eternity and may well be.

Anonymous said...

11:56 I think you said something but, without proper punctuation, I may have seriously missed or misinterpreted your points.

Anonymous said...

I understood it. At least he knows what he is talking about which is much more than can be said about 10:03.

Anonymous said...

You people are talking and raving about things you know nothing about. The EMS has established protocols based upon evidenced based practice and standards of care used nationwide to determine what type of transport the patient needs. Careflite comes from the metroplex, which means your wait time is delayed, which is pretty damn important when you're the one in the ditch. Lifestar is local....they're here, they're super professional and they know what they're doing. I've been flown by Lifestar and couldn't have been treated better, and yes, I have insurance like any wise and prudent individual should. My portion was only a few hundred dollars, and my life was definitely worth that. At to which hospital, I work at Wise Regional, and I wouldn't set foot in Doctor's. I'd rather fly to a vet clinic than to Doctor's, due to what I know about their staff's mishandling of situations. If you only knew the true workings of a hospital, you, too, would know which to choose. I only hope they close before they kill someone else over there. I've been in Harris, Baylor, and JPS in the past, and WRHS was without comparison the BEST.

Anonymous said...

OK if you want to know the real deal on the membership then you can call the membership coordinator at 940-210-0000. He will answer any questions that you have on this.

Anonymous said...

1:57 While you work at Wise Regional, how do you account for the very numerous negative comments on this blog about your hospital? I have no experience at either place but have heard many horror stories about Wise Regional.

Anonymous said...

careflite operates unsafely and as far as they take what you give them that is a line of bullcrap i flew on them and they have hounded me to get every last cent and on the membership end of it careflite only takes care of 50% of the bill leaving the victim the other half to pay where as lifestar members with no insurance pay nothing. until lifestar based here careflite didnt care about wisecounty they just flew out here and picked us up so when we need it in the days before lifestar we had to wait for a helicopter to fly out here empty to pick us up and fly back. today however we wait for the local helicopter to get her and then fly us to the apporiate hospital for our injuries. and to the wonders of who decides who they call ems personal must call the closest air ambulance to the scene of an accident where one is needed. now if we have a major medical event like a buss accident i know that we will see more lifestar and air evac than careflite seeing as to at last count careflite 5 helicopters and lifestar/air evac over 80.

Anonymous said...

Hey, now. Wait a minute. Thought that drivers who run red lights are the victims, and police officers who stop them should be fired? Why are we upset now that someone ran a red light? Obviously, the red light runner is a hero.

Anonymous said...

"those who wind up at Wise Regional or Bridgeport. If your injuries don't kill you,,, the treatment you would receive (or not receive) will."

I have lived in Wise County for about 10 years and have heard this happens way, way too often. Before they moved across the street my doctor sent me over to their lab for blood work. It took them 30 minutes to find his order. I walked down the hall to the lab and the floors were filthy. The nurse directed me to a treatment room. The patient's table had mud, really mud, all over the paper cover that they are supposed to replace after each patient. I wondered if the needle that they took the blood with was as dirty as the facilities.

Ever go to your doctor and be placed in a treatment room? When the doctor comes in, does he wash his hands? When he is though with you does he wash his hands on the way out? Or, does he use latex gloves? If he does none of these, what makes you think he washed his hands prior to, or after seeing the last patient?

I remember seeing an advertisement by a local bank that had a picture of the banker and a local doctor. The add stated that the doctor was a radiologist that had some special treatment for varicose veins and that he was “equally qualified” in that area. I checked with the State and he had no specialty other than radiology. I though that had to be a trailer trash advertisement if I had ever seen one.

Wise County is a dangerous place to live. If the 18-wheeler does not kill you, the hospital will.

Anonymous said...

Hey Life Star just landed at the Doctors Hospital.. What's up with that ?? Why don't we use our Helecopter that is in Decatur ??

Anita said...

I am amazed at the asinine people who have left comments regarding the LifeStar air ambulance and Wise County EMS. You "anonymous" blogsters who have nothing better to do than be negative and stupid, sit here and criticize the need for medical care, supposed abuse, money trails, etc. We are VERY fortunate to have the care we have in this community with our EMS services and LifeStar. You would not receive anywhere close to this care in the metroplex. The equipment on ambulances in metroplex doesn't even compare to the quality we have here in Wise County.

For the record, it was a MAN in the car hit at 114. I can't believe anyone would question whether being flown to the metroplex was the appropriate treatment of this or any patient. This man had an obvious head injury. To what extent? Well it's hard to say when you're sitting in the middle of the highway without MRI, CT and other testing equipment. I guess they could send all the patients to local hospitals first to have tests run just to make sure they really need a higher level of care.... if you want people to die for the delay in the appropriate care.

If it was a money issue, don't you think the local hospitals would have all patients brought to them? Wise Regional worked very hard to get LifeStar stationed locally. It was not for Wise Regional to make money. It was for idiots like you who talk without accurate knowledge about things you don't know anything about.

How dare you sit and disrespect the people who work to save any and everyones life, regardless of how stupid they/you might be, and are paid very little. Most of our EMS workers work two jobs to support their families. They do their jobs because they care about the patients, certainly not for money.

I can guarantee you would be suing the EMS in a heartbeat if you weren't flown and felt that you should have been. As far as which hospital you are taken to in Wise County that is patient's choice.

There's a "golden hour". That is the first hour from the time of injury to definitive treatment. This hour is what saves someone’s life and if they are not treated appropriately and delivered to the best medical care for their condition, the outcome will be worse or even death.
If you spent more time learning about things, doing your part to help our community, and weren’t so negative you actually might be a productive member to our county the way the local EMS and law enforcement agencies are. And just for the record, every time EMS goes on a call, they put their life at risk on accident scenes, abuse and assault calls, and even medical calls when that person becomes unstable mentally due to their medical condition.
So whenever YOU need an ambulance, don’t bother calling because according to you they don’t know anything, fly people for no reason and are only doing everything for the money. Good luck you fatuous anonymous blogsters.

spiritrider said...

thanks anita couldnt have said it better myself i rest well at night knowing that if somthing happens to me and i need them the wcems will come and if necessary will get lifestar to come get me and sinc i am a member of lifestars membership program i will pay nothing if they come godbless all the ems workers

spiritrider