What's funny is how the Messenger always puts a real "snitty" comment in a story when officials hold a "closed meeting", even when it is perfectly legal and proper to do it.
We don' need no stinkin' secret meetings! The contractor is apparently paying $2,500 a day penalty for being over deadline and is the subject of a major injury lawsuit. Many more SHOULD be filed...i.e. negligence resulting in death! Thinking this guy may be headed for bankruptcy but we need to know when 380 will be completed and safe, and what is going on! Surely the Mess will give us the whole story.
It's considered Liquidated Damages and there contract should be made public since its being funded by public money...now being in the "Buisness" myself let me explain how these contracts are awarded...once a year in Austin there is a TON of money spent on Golf and Strip Clubs and this is where this money is alloted by the hard working people we vote in down at Austin, one of the Project Managers for Site Concrete lives on the right side of 380 by a Dirt Pit...not hard to figure out when you see a Lone House w/ equipment all around it. But let me assure you if I was running that project SHIT would be hitting the fan on a daily basis, there is NEVER any work being accomplished and it's at a stand still...but Site Concrete is a HUGE monster and Penhall who is sawcutting all the control joints is also, I would be shocked if anything comes out of this meeting....FYI if I have to follow another Rock Truck at 5am only doing 40 mph's (jarhead will like this) don't be surprised if there is not a well executed .308 shot placed at a moving target....Oswald don't have anything on a Scout Sniper!!!
Inquiring Minds Want to Know!
Are you kidding...$2,500.00 a day in penalties for two years? WOW, what an idiot. Being in the construction business...if someone is that far behind on a project there are usually underlying money issues somewhere.
P L E A S E people380 is only as dangerous as WE make it!!! If the road is sooo dangerous why arent the police patroling it 24 hours a day with an ambulance on standby. I see them DAILY on hwy 114(pulling over every big rig)outside Bridgeport and NEVER on 380so I guess making money for themseves is more impotant than saving a life.
9:30 You have to be kidding. Everyone complains b/c they drive too fast or so dangerously and you are now complaing b/c they are going to slow for you(the rock trucks that is)Slow your a$$ down!
These are public officials, both elected and employed by the state meeting with a contractor. I would think the Open Meetings Act might apply here - unless it is confined to "pending legal" issues. The local district engineer, bill Nelson has been a source of continuous excuse making on this project. Maybe the meeting with Nelson's supervisor will include his firing for tolerating incompetence. Come on TxDOT; actually DO something to get this job finished! And please bring us better personnel to prevent this type of blathering governmental inefficiency and doubletalk.
a few questions:1. is the contractor "paying" $2,500 per day, or being charged $2,500 per day? big difference!2. how in the world is the public served by secret meetings and lack of transparency in this process? someone should be forced to explain this.3. can a meeting really be "top level" if it includes mayors from Bridgeport and Decatur?
10:03 - don't be an idiot. there is nowhere to pull people over on 380. an ambulance tried last week to respond to a call and was run off the road and rolled because of an 18-wheeler ON 380. Is your name Chavez?
Chavez wants no media there? I wonder why! maybe he will collide with a rock truck on 380 when he leaves that meeting.
Shouldn't this be covered under the "open meetings act"?
The TXDOT District Engineer, Maribel Chavez, is a woman. Nuff said?
To 8:42,I agree that the Mess is critical of closed meetings even when the entity is in compliance w/ the Open Meetings Act, except, of course, when the city of Decatur does it. We should all be wary when govt. officials at any level are secretive. I don't see how this meeting allows for the public to be excluded, however, in any way, shape, form, or fashion. I don't think the purpose of, or the subjects to be discussed, require a closed session under the Open Meetings Act, and I don't understand how it is legal for this bureaucrat to bar our presence.
If you really want to know, as an insider intimately aquainted with Site, and Connard Riggs, please let me let some of the cats out of the bag for you. There are BIG issues concerning how the area along the road wad built up, and the way water drains now that it was drafted and excavated improperly. There are quite a few land owners on the down hill side of 380 that can tell you about it, and big problems on the edge of bridgeport also. There is also arguing between Site and TX DOT about aspects of the concrete and rock ect. A fair part of the delay has been because of the state shutting them down, and holding up thier "pouring". That will knock a hole in thier $2500 a day crap. And To vent a lil bit, Connard Riggs should have been throwed out on his ass long ago, but they couldn't since he owns the so called pit where they were mixing.
I hate rock haulers (aka "Rolling Death").Until 380 is "safe," whatever that means, they should only be allowed to travel on the "under construction" part of 380 between 2300 and 0600. That way, when they get in wrecks, they'll be crashing into each other instead of us. And we'll know when to stay the hell off the road so we can live to see another day.It's not like their rock loads are perishable. Dump them on the site at night and they'll be there bright and early for whoever ordered them.
*OTFLOLHysterically* at the sad but true accuracy of HHL's point #3.******************************************As for ALL you people complaining about NO work being done on The 380 Project, I saw 3 guys cutting an expansion joint in a new section of The 380 Project around 2:ish Tuesday while I was enroute to Decatur. Of course, when I was returning to Runaway Bay at 4:ish there was NO ONE on The 380 Project. No doubt those hardworking crack makers put in a full day of carving cracks and do not appreciate us marginalizing their efforts.*;) Note winky smiley face.Personally, I am at a point that we as tax payers should knock on the door of the dolt who owns the company responsible for The 380 Project and ask WHEN he is going to do the job for which he is being paid. At the very least, EVERYONE should HONK when they drive past his house. It probably will not accomplish anything but MIGHT be fun.Hmmmm... Perhaps, the same can be done for/to the ELECTED dolts who are responsible for The 380 Project?I'm just saying...
In an effort to resolve this long standing problem, I say we take the owner of the company and Bill Nelson of TDOT and have them duke it out where Big Sandy crosses the highway, a MMA contest and hope the sorry rascals get the crap beat out of both of themHave a nice day
Alright Katie bar the door....I'm actually going to have to agree w/ Mzchief (no rude comments from me...im in a soft mood today, I even used her right name)she has a good point, I didnt use his name in my first post just said guy on 380...but now that the cats out, his offspring are always running around saying how rich there Dad is getting off this project....Anyways Liquidated Damages on a project this size would normally be in the 6500-8500 range....Hunted in South Texas a few weeks back w/ two guys from the above said company that were laughing about how backwards Wise Co was and that there was not a snow balls chance anything would come out of this...be funny to see what happens.
Isn't some bonding company liable for a performance bond or something on this project? If so, how will Site Concrete ever qualify for another job after screwing this one up?
I'm certain it was a P&P or Public Bond and yes if there is a Mechanic Lien or if the Liquidated damages are pushed...This all should be Public record....Go get em WC Mess!!!
10:13 - Bridgeport's mayor sure as heck thinks he is top level. He never quits talking. I feel sorry for the folks in THAT meeting!Bad weather and Bill Nelson are the major contributors to the 380 mess.
The political "Sunshine" in Texas is in a perpetual state of full solar eclipse.
well they took a page out of the book of rick perry go in maker a deal and the public better be happy i.e. ttc-35 well in that case and in the case of 380 get off your ass and work for the will of the people
speaking of the WCM, did you see the college signing pic on page 4B? the coach has horns!!
Please, please, please WC Mess do something interesting for once and write a story that holds these exposes these jokers.How many ways have we seen their incompetence?> 200+ days of delays> lighting at the intersection of bus380 and 380 was turned off prior to start of project, (let's take the most dangerous intersection in the county and make it pitch black at night, even though we have light poles all over it)> weeks and weeks of concrete grinding because it was not poured smooth enough to begin with> last-minute additions of accel decel lanes because engineers were not smart enough to realize high traffic plus 70 mph road equals danger.> drainage that is horrible... just take a peek at the stretch near Seven Wires and tell me WTH is going on> a nice, cozy arrangment with landowner to pull all the fill needed for project from hole in his backyard... and now they will fill it in for him? What a deal.It is a shame that the largest, most expensive HWY project in the County to date has been botched so bad. I guess thats what happens when you get the JV team... or maybe the Middle School team in this case. It would be funny if we didn't have to drive on it. Or pay for it.PS - No issue with closed door meetings if all legal rules were followed.
Ever since Mzchiefs Honking comment I been HONKING away morning and night...don't know if it works, but I've scared the absoult Hell out of a few drivers....Good Times..........
TxDOT and Bill Nelson have presided over one heck of an incompetent execution of construction work. I don't know how badly we taxpayers are being raped but both TxDOT and Bill Nelson just don't seem to care. This is the definition of inexcusable incompetence.
Honcho - lots of us think that the State dumped Bill Nelson in here to get rid of him.Send him to a soundboard someplace. He thinks he's good at that too. And speaking of incompetence, who is responsible for filling in the massive pothole at the intersection of Bridgeport business 380? Folks trying to get onto 380 east at night are subject to a frightening jolt if they get into that massive Grand Canyon hole.Somebody please fill that thing in!!
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