2.22.2008

And Now A Word From Our Drug Czar

From today's Morning News:
"What you are choosing to do when you consume these dead-end drugs, particularly marijuana, is you're choosing to buy the guns that kill people not just along the border, but throughout Mexico, guns that kill law enforcement authorities, civilians and threaten fundamental Mexican institutions," Mr. Walters added. "It seems not too much to ask these consumers who are making these people powerful, 'Is that something you're OK with?' "
Hey, hoss, are you "OK" with backing a stupid U.S. policy that makes marijuana use illegal thereby causing $8.6 billion (your number)
to go to "ruthless Mexican kingpins" (your words)?


45 comments:

The Devil said...

Has anyone checked Alfredo Corchado's citizenship status?

Anonymous said...

As Charlie Heston has always said, "guns don't kill people, people kill people." So keep smoking, potheads.

Anonymous said...

WHAT A PUBLIC SERVICE MESSAGE!
Wow! I can hear the kids on the corner now...."Hey! We better not get our stuff from Mexico...it's making kingpins kill eachother!"

Does this guy really think any junkies give a damn where their stuff comes from? Doesn't he know it is illegal for anyone to own guns in Mexico? From Santa Anna on up, Mexico has never had a legitimate government and the kingpins ARE THE GOVERNMENT! Sheesh!!

Anonymous said...

You, Mr. Walters, will not make Barry Green feel guilty for smoking his marijuana and killing all those people throughout Mexico!

Anonymous said...

Nor will they make me feel guilty or quit smoking my marijuana and killing all those people throughout Mexico. Our government has taken a plant that is responsible for killing no one and made it illegal, so that the liquor barons can continue to make millions and billions of dollars and we can keep the construction industry busy building more jails and the lawyers busy, sorry Barry, defending those that get caught with a plant that does nothing more than ease pain or make a person euphoric for 30 minutes or so. Shame, Shame is all I can say. If it wasn't illegal we that liked it could grow our own and it would cease to be a legal problem and the cops could spend a lot more time solving legitimate crimes.

Anonymous said...

Way to fund things...Legalize Marijuana and tax the hell out of it.

Anonymous said...

Anon 2:49
I agree with you 100 %. As a chemo patient, I smoked daily to ease that sickly chemo feeling. Now I enjoy smoking pot instead of drinking.

Doule Fake Martha Stewart said...

Thanks, de debil, for reminding me about Alfredo.

I have some left over fettucini alfredo in the fridge - I think I'll just add some chicken and steamed veggies to it tonight for supper.

I might even sprinkle some dried leafy green thingies on it to further stimulate my appetite.

Yeah! No cooking for me! Embellished leftovers! Yummmmm!

Anonymous said...

Yeah, illegal drugs are bad, especially marijuana. Mmmkay?

But just keep taking all those little pills you get from your doctor (oxycontin, soma, hydrocodone, ambien, valium, prozac, viagra, ad nauseum).

Like some of you jerks can truly "say NO to Drugs". I think not.

Anonymous said...

We don't care about kind of logic. We are the ones sucking electricity and yet complaining about those who provide it. We're the ones living miles from our places of work and our schools, yet we complain about gas prices. We're the ones buying all the cheap crap made in third world countries, yet we complain about all the trucks on the highways that are only bringing us what we want. We're the ones filling up the Wal Mart parking lots, yet we complain that Wal Mart is killing our local retailers. We're the ones who just can't live without driving on highways that are located on what used to be someone's land, yet we go berserk at the notion someone wants to take our land to build a highway. We're the ones that let our teenage girls walk around wearing "do me" outfits yet we want to fry any guy that takes the bait.

Anonymous said...

Tax a plant? That's even crazier than current marijuana laws.

Anonymous said...

How many lives have by ruined by imbicilic marijuana laws in the US? How many billions upon billions of dollars wasted enforcing same archaic laws? One day we'll wake up and be saddened by the answers to these questions.

Anonymous said...

Cancer schmancer! Glaucoma blaucoma! We don't need an excuse to partake of the herb and acting like we do confuses the issue that much more.

Anonymous said...

So smoking pot kills illegal aliens? Damn, now I gotta start another bad habit!

Anonymous said...

5:41----- BRAVO
That is a perfectly accurate assessment of life in the "United States of Hysteria"

p.s.-- TV made us dumb. So does marijuana but it grows free in the back yard. What the hell ever happened to freedom anyway?

wordkyle said...

Marijuana's been illegal for what - sixty years? Seventy? So it was illegal when almost all of the "legalize pot" crowd first tried it. You developed this infatuation for something that's been illegal since your grandparents were kids. Weird to complain about the illegality of a habit that's never been legal in your lifetime.

Pot relieves symptoms of glaucoma and effects of chemotherapt, for which use it is already legal. Regulated and legal.

Can anyone give a benefit to society from legalizing pot for recreational use (which is what this is all about)? Not the "save money on law enforcement" or "make more room for real criminals" arguments -- an actual direct benefit to society by adding another drug.

That's one of my beefs with Libertarians -- the argument always turns to legalizing drugs. Pretty single-minded, those Libertarians.

Anonymous said...

Wordkyle- you're not often wrong, but you are sooooo wrong on this one.
It seems to me the that everyone who wants to smoke pot already does. So laws against it are not only ineffective, they are counterproductive (and expensive). Thus the failure of prohibition.
Legalizing something does not make it compulsory. Just frees up a lot of public funds which are needed elsewhere. That is, in fact, a direct public benefit.
It doesn't equate with adding another drug, it's already here.

HHL said...

wordkyle: i dare you to call me simpleminded. dare ya.

as for this asshat who is the subject of Barry's post: have you ever thought that maybe the demand for this substance is pretty much unchangeable? some people just like to smoke dope, period. you are never going to be able to change that, no matter how many different messages you put out.

on the other hand, given that the demand for this stuff is a constant, did you ever consider the fact that we can change our suppliers at any time? nothing is forcing us to buy our marijuana from violent mexican drug lords. we could, instead, buy our marijuana from U.S. farmers. guys that sit on their front porches and sip iced tea rather than evil brown folks that go around shooting each other with AK47s and blowing people up with car bombs. all it takes is one simple vote from congress, and we can entirely wipe from the earth the scourge of gun-toting marijuana kingpins.

i don't smoke marijuana myself. but i am a practical person, and i recognize that, much like other mind altering substances such as alcohol, caffeine, and tobacco, people, in general (lots of them) like to use it. outlawing it is not the answer. as this asshat says, prohibition promotes violence. our government is solely responsible for all the deaths caused by these violent maniacs. put THAT in your pipe and smoke it.

HHL said...

oops, you said "single-minded" not "simple-minded". ok then, i dare ya to call me single-minded too, because i damn sure will argue for repealing a lot of other laws as well. pretty much name any law (other than those with identifiable victims, like assault, robbery, murder, etc) and i'll argue it should be repealed. try me.

HHL said...

and another thing wordkyle: in a free country, the burden should be on you to make the argument as to why something should be illegal, rather than the other way around. don't bring this "tell me what the benefit to society is" for allowing people to do this or that or the other. how about YOU tell ME why this that or the other should be punishable by a prison sentence.

RPM said...

Medical Marijuana is legal in Texas now? Wow Wordkyle, I knew you were full of it but you really hit it out of the park that time.

We can all thank Harry J. Anslinger for marijuana being illegal. Theorello LaGuardia funded a study just a few years after it was made illegal that showed no there was no reason for marijuana to be outlawed and that it's prohibition caused more crime than it prevented. Richard Nixon threw out a report that said the same thing.

But what I'm confused about is marijuana causing murders in Mexico. I was told by the government that marijuana funded AlQueda terrorists. Are they in Mexico now?

Anonymous said...

Mom said I'd never amount to anything if I kept smoking that "wacky tobaccy". Well look at me now mama,I'm a power broker,responsible for destroying TWO count 'em TWO countries!!

Anonymous said...

Make drinking alcohol illegal and then we can talk about the issue of marijuana.

Denney Crane said...

SIMPLEMINDED!!!

Uh... No, I meant

SINGLEMINDED!!!

There, I said it...hahaha...you sound like my wife!

wordkyle said...

hhl: What good is another mood-enhancing chemical for recreational use?

I'm not saying that Libertarians' only concern is legalizing drugs. I'm saying that in every discussion I've had with Libertarians, the topic invariably turns to legalizing pot. Every time. That's what I mean by single-minded.

I don't really have a dog in this fight. I don't smoke dope and I don't know what the results would be of legalizing it. Neither does anyone else.

There is such a thing as unintended consequences. Legalizing pot would have a huge ripple effect, the extent of which we don't have a clue.

For a recreational drug.

So, HHL, my question is why change the status quo? What good is marijuana?

RPM: I didn't think to limit the discussion to Texas. I was speaking generically. My apologies for your confusion. Medical marijuana is not yet legal in Texas. I could support legalizing it for medical use. And thank you for staying attentive to my fullness.

Anonymous said...

Whether you ever agree with him or not, ole Wordkyle usually seems pretty reasonable and can make some convincing arguments for his beliefs. The statements he made over this issue show how ridiculous marijuana laws are in this country.
Marijuana SHOULD be illegal because it HAS been for 60-70 years? That thinking isn't even rational.
A huge ripple effect? Get real. For starters that's called "begging the question" And would get you an F in high school debate class.
Potheads 1 Wordkyle zero

Anonymous said...

Read the 9:01 post to bring some common sense to this issue.

wordkyle said...

12:23 - On this issue I don't have a strong opinion either way, hence I don't consider this a "debate."

My tendency is to not change things unless there are compelling reasons to do so (i.e., "Conservative.") Although I am willing to be convinced, I haven't heard any good reasons for legalizing another drug solely for recreational use.

On the other hand, the Institute of Medicine says "Smoking marijuana is clearly harmful, especially in people with chronic conditions."

My question remains: Is there a good reason to legalize marijuana for recreational use?

Anonymous said...

Come on Wordkyle, the next time you offer something up for consideration read it yourself first,instead of skimming down to the conclusions and find a statement you think sums up the article AND your opinion. Also referencing the IOM on this subject is cuckoo. You are left with "I think it's bad" that's ok too. Oh crap,I just realised something,aren't you a teacher or something? You coudn't tell me how you really felt about this issue if your LIFE depended on it.(at the least, you couldn't be believed).

wordkyle said...

8:27 - I read the entire boring article. Rather than quote long, boring parts of it, I accurately quoted the summary, which states that smoking dope is bad for you. If somebody wants the whole thing, I provided the link.

If you are in favor of legalizing marijuana, I can see how a medical group's negative opinion based on research could discomfit you. Sorry if the facts disagreed with your opinion.

I shrug in your general direction. I'm just asking questions. I'm not heavily invested in the subject one way or the other, but the pro-pot people seem to want to ignore discussing possible bad consequences.

Anonymous said...

Yep...I can visualize the whole legalized pot idea. Clever ads and packaging in every grocery store, billboards, school vending machines. Weed will be added to the spice shelves as a baking additive for cookies and cakes. Gerber will feature the best THC in their babyfoods. Everyone will get stoned whenever, wherever. Not for kids? Ooops, that would require making it illegal and there would have to be some kind of law enforcement.

Drugged minds fantasize legalized everything to keep from going to jail. Sane people think about how it is just another stupid pipe dream.

Anonymous said...

I think opium should be the opiate for the masses.

Anonymous said...

ANY law that is so nearly universally ignored is at best a waste of time and money and at worst an unconstitutional beast that destroys lives.

Anonymous said...

You COULDN'T have read that article because it didn't prove what you thought it did doofus,and regardless, the thrust of it was to discuss medical aspects. And anyway the IOM wouldn't publish positive aspects of marijuana use for other than medical purposes(and only then carefully) on a bet.

Anonymous said...

If it is so important for you to use mind-bending street drugs, you should have to register, turn in all firearms and never be able to have them again. If found DWI, first offense a mandatory 3 years in the slam. Second offense, LIFE. You can never work in any sensitive occupation...pilot, train crew, power plant operator, petroleum refinery, food distribution, trucking, military, bank, law enforcement, teaching, etc.

If you don't like that, move to Holland or Switzerland and get the hell out of here! Check it out:

http://www.justice.gov/dea/demand/speakout/06so.htm

Anonymous said...

And all the while, most of you who are responding to this particular topic never think to ask why alcohol is not illegal. All together now......open up your prescription pill bottles and wash a few down with a big chug of beer or a mixed drink. You know you do. Hypocrites.

Anonymous said...

Alcohol once was illegal, genius!
You dopers always fall back on that one but the simple fact is that we don't need a jungle of new controls like with alcohol just so that you can get high. You are standing on a pulpit of PURE BS!

wordkyle said...

3:13 - Not surprisingly, you're wrong. I read the entire article. What aspect of what I said is inaccurate? You're essentially arguing with the authors of the article, not with me. I just quoted -- accurately -- part of the summary. Again, anyone interested enough to plow through the whole thing can do so. However, it does indeed say, "Smoking marijuana is clearly harmful."

That's one negative consequence of smoking pot, and an argument against its legalization. I have merely asked for someone to name a benefit that marijuana provides in and of itself.

It seems like instead of getting all highhanded with me, you'd find evidence to dispute the statement I quoted. If you can. You haven't done such a bangup job so far.

This is the funny part: I have apparently rattled your cage, and I don't even care. What could someone do who was really strong against it?

Anonymous said...

Open up YOUR medicine cabinet for us 6:30 PM, and list the contents. I freaking dare you. Be honest about it. I doubt you can, asshole.

I know alcohol was once illegal, but big bidness, aka corrupt rich people, managed to make it legal again, and now, ask yourself this: how many people have died as a result of alcohol versus pot?

Keep sticking your head in the sand (er, up your ass). Narrow minded people can never see the big picture.

You're probably involved in law enforcement in some way, I'd bet. You need some medicines for your anger.

Anonymous said...

7:14 - You are having a nice little tantrum yourself junkie! Why not just give up your illegal habit, or are you addicted? Hopefully, that will result in jail time for you. Don't dump your screwed up, drug-induced philosophy on the mainstream. No...I am not law enforcement, none of my PRESCRIBED medicines are mind bending and you are the asshole here!

Anonymous said...

People are going to do it anyway.
If you make it legal the numbers of smokers isn't going to blow up.
So why ruin peoples lives,spend billions of dollars fighting them and imprisoning them if it doesn't change anything anyway? If it was any other subject we'd see right through it and demand a change.
Look at the term pothead,I think it's funny and don't really care but it's usually a perjorative term. What and who does it make you think of?
I'll have to vague of course but let me tell you a little about me. I work in a professional field and I can assure you some of you have interacted with me. I have a degree,live in a big pretty house that's only 4 years old. My kids are in our schools honors programs and are all healthy. I've worked like a dog for everything I have but because I smoke pot I could lose everything with one missed step.
Why do I do it? BECAUSE I WANT TO!! Why do you drink? The real difference is smoking pot is a healthier and safer alternative to drinking. How many 'potheads' you ever heard of killing their families in a wreck or beating their wives?
"Oh but it's illegal." There are plenty of laws that are wrong. Sodomy laws weren't specifically designed as I understand to prosecute people for having oral sex with their spouses but it has happened and even more impotantly if they were still in place COULD be used against YOU.
The government, specifically the federal government probably couldn't change it's stance on this issue because where will it end,what else have they been wrong about,and what else have we been brainwashed to believe.
Well,peace love and all that crap.

Anonymous said...

Whew!! I smell a lesser primate in here! He's been jumping up and down all over the place, calling names, asking for proof that he never produces, paranoid about law enforcement, defensive about his drug abuse and now we know he is a productive citizen too. Wow! But he takes the risk of losing it all in a bust simply because "he wants to". Brilliant! What a deep, out of control thinker.

I am sure we all realize that most junkies aren't simply involved in weed...that's where they try to make the case about "harmless". Their sources provide them with the other good stuff that eventually will bring them down. As a defense, they try to induct us into their jungle by criticising legal booze and prescription drugs, the stupidest comparison of all their BS.

Ok, ape, stop throwing your feces through the bars, swing on the
tire and go play with yourself for the nice folks here.

Anonymous said...

Wow and just think I can't even smoke the stuff. WHy you might ask? Well lets see I have a CDL class A, and I will lose if I pissed dirty How many of you who dive cars and trucks could pass a UA?? Beat not too many.

Anonymous said...

Bong hits of mighty fine herb,fresh chocolate chip cookies for breakfast and Limp Bizkit videos on Youtube.It's a great day to be white trash in the WC. Bongs away ya'll.

Anonymous said...

The only difference in a drunk driver and a pot smoker is this:
A drunk driver runs the red light and the pot smoker stops at a green light...