2.08.2007

(Grammatical) Terror Threat

Fox 4 has a story on a Decatur High School student being arrested for a "terroristic threat" on his myspace page. YouTube.com clip is here. Edit: The Fox 4 web site also has the video on it.

40 comments:

Dogbreath said...

My favorite part is that the 14-year-old boy's mother saw the threats and then called the boy's parole officer. This just begs for a Jeff Foxworthy "You might be a redneck" joke.

Strunk and White said...

Criminally bad spelling, too.

Anonymous said...

I agree, dogbreath. This was almost the perfect redneck story, except it didn't say anything about trailer parks, fishing, a woman with her hair in rollers, a man in a wife-beater T-shirt, and getting drunk.

Anonymous said...

The funniest thing of all is how people can find humor in all of this.

Anonymous said...

that is just insane. sick

Anonymous said...

I am proud of the Mother for turning her son in - many parents would not do that.

It "may" have been a prank on his part - HOWEVER - it should be taken VERY seriously because pranks like this can go too far - it is also hard to weed the pranks from the real threats. This kid should not be in town - this Teacher and her family deserves some peace of mind.

June FN Cleaver said...

Huntsville needs to reserve a place for that kid because that is where he is going to end up. Sad thing is that he will eventually return to some sort of classroom setting as well as mingle with the public and make life miserable for all those around him until Huntsville becomes his home. I'm tired of people like him.

Anonymous said...

And mrs berry of all people!! I worked with her before in my old job in wise co., and she was always wonderful!!

Anonymous said...

It seems this boy has a history of trouble to be 14 and on probation. It is very sad that this kid is messing his life up at such a young age. I think that teenagers often don't realize the harm they are doing to themselves and their future. Very sad situation!

doubletrouble333 said...

That kid is a punk. they need to send him right to jail. There isn't any room for people like that in this world. I can't stand it when people say "Oh poor kid he's only 14..blah blah blah." He screwed up. People like that can't be fixed.

Anonymous said...

What's consistent in these situations is that almost ALWAYS in the kid's background will be some combination of divorce, separation, two parents working, way too much or way too little money, parental coddling, drugs (including marijuana, by the way), alcohol, sloth, a sense of entitlement or other issues that impact the moral and economic umbrella that kid has grown up in. A 14 year old should know basic right from wrong, but at this age they are not yet equipped to properly escape or navigate the situations they've grown up in. It's a certainty there are significant issues.

Anonymous said...

Legal question for any attorneys out there. If a person is threatened in this manner, does that person have the right to "open fire" so to speak...at the first sight or upon being approached by the person that made the threat? Is it self defense? Or do you have to wait around and get shot before you can do something about it?

m&m said...

How is it that he "might" be expelled? Isn't there something in the student handbook, that if you threaten to kill a teacher you "will" be expelled? I mean, what is the punishment, 2 days in ISS? Sheesh!

Anonymous said...

Is Decatur so worried about state money that they would even consider allowing this student to remain in school. There should no question. He should be expelled.
They should stand up and actually enforce the rules and allow Mrs. Berry to teach her students w/out feeling intimidated by having the student in class.

Anonymous said...

I agree, 8:23~~~ what is with that last comment that says DISD will decide WHETHER he will be expelled! Thank GOD I don't have a kid in that system. Whole system has gone to hell in a hand basket! (Bless the teachers there, tho!)

Mary Mack said...

I thought loser kids like this were sent to the alternative school, Cates? As soon as a high school girl gets knocked-up, she's shipped out of regular school. You know, because they're such a threat.

School policies should definitely be re-evaluated.

Anonymous said...

aren't Mrs. Berry and the rest of the DHS teachers embarrassed by this person's extremely poor grasp of grammar and spelling? he is verging on illiteracy.

maybe if this Mrs. Berry were a better teacher, her students wouldn't be making threats against her. or, at least their threats would be couched in proper English.

Anonymous said...

9:37 Do you think that he wants to learn? Teacher's can't teach students who do not want to learn. My guess is that he does not like her becuase she does her job and expects him to follow rules and respect authority. Teachers should not always be the ones to take blame for a student's progress or behavior. Some children simply do not try to learn because their parents do not value the importance of education. The school system is intended to educate children, not raise them. Raising them needs to be done at home by the parents.

Anonymous said...

The poor spelling and grammar is typical Wise Co but the mixed use of capital and lowercase letters smacks of mzchief!

Anonymous said...

9:37, putting aside for a moment your proposal that a student should be allowed to kill teachers at will, I would bet that Mrs. Berry is a good teacher and contributes to the education of a lot of bright kids. And I would also bet she has tried hard to polish that little turd that wants to kill her. In fact, like most teachers she might be one of the few people in the world that actually gives a damn about that kid.

m&m said...

9:37 Do you want to rethink your statement? "Maybe if she were a better teacher she wouldn't get threats." Are you crazy? What does her ability as a teacher have to do with a kid being psycho?

Anonymous said...

Whoa. Just because there's a line in the WCM indicating the DISD will decide on expulsion, don't assume that the DISD is struggling with what to do, and then blast them for it. There's no basis for that. No way this kid is going to be allowed back in school. It's a no brainer, and right now DISD officials are probably scratching their heads wondering why they are getting phone calls and emails from irate parents thinking they may decide otherwise. They won't. For crying out loud, give them a chance to meet on it, and quit taking everything in the WCM as in proper context or as gospel.

Anonymous said...

This post is out of hand. Everyone needs to quit blaming someone else and hold accountable the one who made the threats.

Anonymous said...

10;15, MEET ON IT? WHAT's to MEET ABOUT?? There's a principal out there and that's HER JOB. NO MEETING needs to take place...it should have been done IMMEDIATELY! DISD officials are IDIOTS

Anonymous said...

You have to follow the law. As crazy as school laws are, you have to follow them.

Anonymous said...

10:32, chill pill. Meet on it means they have a chance to get together and coordinate on all aspects of the situation. The expulsion is a done deal, and probably has already been decided. Shame they don't feel the need to alert you personally on all their decisions. But there's more to meet about than than just that. There's media, there's how best to keep parents informed, there's the well being of the teachers, the other students, and how to permanently handle to issue beyond short term decisions. You're obviously not someone that is in a position of responsibility, and therefore aren't really qualified to comment.

Anonymous said...

If you knew the law, you would know that a principal does not have the legal right to expell a student. Campus administrators only have the authority to suspend students and/or place them in the disciplinary AEP. Only the superintendent can expell a student and only after a due process hearing. In some cases, the offense may require a mandatory expulsion (bringing a prohibited weapon to school, etc.)and in others, it may be discretionary. For offenses that require or could lead to expulsion, the student is suspended until the hearin, and in this case, due to the nature of the offense, he is also arrested by the police and held in custody until they decide whether to charge him with a crime. Whether you like it or not, that is the law.

As for why this student would single out Mrs. Berry, I have no idea. I worked with her for several years and she is a good, teacher and is very caring of her students. Much more so than some who work at the H.S.

Gleemonex said...

8:12: I love that "two parents working" is a possible cause of this kid being a mess -- along with "parental coddling" and marijuana (OF COURSE!).

9:37 -- right on.

Anonymous said...

This string has gotten extremely tiresome ('Is not!' 'Is too!'). Somebody please post something witty. The post at 10:05 comparing the 14 year old idiot's text to mzchief was brilliant.

Anonymous said...

At the very least, his technology teacher should have taught him how to use the spelling and grammar checkers. Then some of the posters on this blog might not have their panties in such a wad.

Anonymous said...

8:12AM - has your book on "Perfect Parenting" been published yet? I most certainly will purchase it when it gets to Amazon.com.

A side note: HA - my word verification for this post was "rubsg"!

June FN Cleaver said...

There are some people on this blog that have an axe to grind with DISD and Mrs. Reeves. How shallow it is to use this situation to try and take aim. It's taken on this "I love to hate J.R. Ewing" thing. Get over it people. Move on. Get a life.

m&m said...

mary mack: Someone told me a while back that Cates does not exist anymore. I have not confirmed that.
Maybe Mrs. Berry and now the administration wish it did, that is if it doesn't.

Anonymous said...

I had Cindy Berry all four years of high school, and was on her newspaper staff as well during that time. She is an excellent teacher, mentor and role model-and I just can not believe someone would even remotely think the way he did. I am still dumbfounded as to what may have caused this little freshmens' spout of rage. An "F" in Journalism 1 or something? What gives?

Anonymous said...

9:37 ... so we should kill teachers who dont teach to your expectations? you are sick.
as for the WCM report in that update thingy, im betting the kid was not expelled as of last night. there are measures you have to take to there is no problem with procedure. i think its safe to beleive what we read on our hometown paper.

Anonymous said...

Mrs. Berry has been my teacher for three years now. I am one of her staffers and I can't believe anyone would even say "maybe if Mrs. Berry were a better teacher.." She is by far the best teacher I've ever had. She is adviser of a yearbook and newspaper and if you've seen either one of these publications from our school, you can tell that she does her job of teaching us. This kid misbehaved in her journalism class over and over again and all she asked for was respect.
When learning to be a journalist, you must learn to meet deadlines and it is a great responsibility. If you miss a deadline, you get in trouble. That's just the way it goes and he couldn't deal with it. This is no one's fault but the kid's and he's paying for his mistake. Our school is taking the right precautions and I know administrators will make the right decision. So think again before you doubt Mrs. Berry's teaching because she's the reason I even enjoy school. She's the one who helped me decide what my major will be in college and if you knew the woman..you'd love her.
And as for the question about the alternative school, Cates, it no longer exists.

Anonymous said...

Someone please tell me what "CATES" means.

I can only guess.......

Children And Teachers Eating Spinach?

Anonymous said...

10;40, obviously you do not understand that PAPERWORK must take the time, but the DECISION to expell can be immediate! Have you read the DHS handbook and discipline management guide? Maybe you should!

Anonymous said...

I wonder if the reference to "Mrs. Berry" may have been a misspelled attempt to insult Barry. Maybe the kid hates defense lawyers. Or maybe he's jealous Barry's marginaly literate blog gets more traffic than his completely illiterate myspace page....

Anonymous said...

For those who don't know, Cates H.S. was, until last year, a combination disciplinary and choice campus that operated independent of the regular H.S. for several years in Decatur. One classroom housed students from the Intermediate School, Middle School and H.S. who were assigned to the Cates AEP for disciplinary reasons and the other housed H.S. students who had fallen behind their classmates due to failing grades, and had requested to attend Cates where they could use its self- paced instruction to either catch up on credits so they could return to the regular campus and graduate on time,or, in some cases,to accelerate their coursework and graduate early as a Cates H.S. graduate. Last year, Cates, as a separate campus was dissolved and the choice classroom was placed under the supervision of the H.S. principal and is currently housed at the new H.S.
The disciplinary classroom, however, still exists as a separate campus and is housed in a portable building on the east side of what was, until this year, the intermediate school. Since it houses students from grade 5 through 12, it is under the supervision of the Assistant Superintendent of Instruction with the day to day supervisor being one of the H.S. assistant principals.

As for 8:38's comment that the decision to expell can be immediate, that is not true. Suspension,which can be immediate, and Expulsion are two different things though many people don't know the difference. If a student does something that would be an expellable offense, a campus adminstrator can immediately suspend the student, but must then notify the superintendent and send him a recommendation for expulsion including a detailed description of the offense. The expulsion itself can only take place after a due process hearing before the superintendent, and he and only he can expell the student, though in some cases, his decision to do so is mandated by law and he has no other recourse. Even then, a student might still be placed in a disiplinary AEP by the superintendent after he has officially expelled the student. In most cases, it depends on the offense. Over the years as an administrator, I've seen it done both ways.