1.19.2007

It Would Drive Me Insane . . .

. . . to have my fate decided by others.

24 comments:

Anonymous said...

VERY sad for our Decatur school system. Those who voted to extend his conntract obviously have NO CLUE about what leadership and ethics are in the educational setting. HOW could they EXTEND the man's contract after what he pulled in just the last few weeks. He tried to fire, then reassign a principal saying she had done this class thing so wrong. But....ooops... he must have forgotten that HE "ok'd" that class/schedule himself! He and the principal should have both been FIRED. But no, we (Decatur) seem to reward idiotic,unethical behavior in the DISD system. I'm surprised the lunatics who voted to extend his contract didn't also give him a bloomin' raise! Happy to see at least TWO members have some clue about leadership and job skills. Our thanks and sympathy goes out to those two members who voted on behalf of betterment for the community. Folks who have kids in this system... good luck! If it weren't for the good teachers there, DISD would be like the Dallas ISD.... a JOKE!

Anonymous said...

GINDT should definitely go! You're right, 9:45, the DISD is a screwed-up mess. Gindt is a joke. The two school board members who voted against his contract extension should receive an award; the others should get a swift kick in the butt!

Anonymous said...

YOu expect school board members to act professionally? What?

They are folks who have an axe to grind because they have kids in the system. People with professional judgment need not run for those offices. Why should they? What is the reward?

Our system controls millions of dollars of assets and millions in expenditures. They are supposed to hire competent people to manage and be accountable to the public for all of it but serve without compensation. What are they expected to know about competency and responsibility? Hey fellow taxpayers, you gets what you pays for...it costs us NOTHING and that is what we get! Gary Gindt is a perfect example that little equation.

Anonymous said...

Whoa guys, the two board memebers who voted against Gindt are Reeves' personal board members. Laura Montogomery socializes with her. Joey was one of two Reeves/Skip Nichols got to run after the elementary principal had to be reassigned (who Reeves was mentoring) Gindt has his problems, but his largest one is Reeves who inspite of getting caught creating the leadership classes, is determined to rule from the streets. Less than 50% of the faculty showed last night, probably those who are so new they haven't crossed Reeves yet, or those who thanks to Reeves have such a cushy job, that they don't want her replaced and have to go to work.

Reeves and Montgomery will no doubt get two to run for the board
this May and will soon control the board.........and DHS decends further toward a third-rate school

Joey Luttrull said...

TO 1:18:

Good afternoon. While it may sound like you know what your talking about, you don't. I was not approached, coached, or asked to run for the Board by Melinda or Skip.

Should there be any questions regarding the subjects that can be discussed you can feel free to contact me to offer your thoughts.

Thanks

Joey Luttrull

Anonymous said...

1:18, Leadership begins at the top. The school board is not supposed to RUN the school because that is what the superintendent's job is. I agree with you that M Reeves is also no leader! But both she and Gindt lack proper ethical conduct to be in the positions they are. NEITHER are leaders who lead by proper example. They both "avoid" the truth in many situations and rules apply to some but not all. Exceptions are made for some but not all.

Personally, I don't care why Luttrell and Montgomery are on the board, but I am pleased to see they both voted to at least send a message to Gindt that his type of "rule" here is not acceptable! Reeves' contract comes up next month, I believe. I hope the same message is sent to her as well.

I'm not in support of a board that "rubber stamps", but in a board who will do what is RIGHT by its community in establishing leadership and INTEGRITY in the roles of the superintendents/principals in the school system. DISD admin has no integrity. Maybe those who are in the system see this the best.... and have TRIED to let board members know, only to be let down time and time again when contracts were renewed. FINALLY, two members have listened...paid attention to the behavior/actions of those who lead and have SEEN FOR THEMSELVES that DISD has some problems. These two members are not "rubber stampers"...just for the sake of being a "unified board" but truly do have the best for our community at heart. At least, that is what their recent votes have told me. What the board needs to use instead of a rubber stamp is a broom...and they need to start sweeping from the top down until they finally find integrity....then they can stop sweeping.

Anonymous said...

I don't know because I'm one of the many who didn't show up at the board meeting in support of unethical behavior...

But, maybe the board is sending a message, that one piece at a time, they are willing to start making changes, and get 'ole DHS back on track. Maybe they voted to extend Dr. Gindt's contract because he's trying to do the job they hired him to do. Is he perfect? Absolutely not? Could he use some lessons in tact? Probably so.

But, considering the manipulations, cheating, inequality to students, as well as teachers, unethical behavior, covering of one's own tracks, and overall lack of integrity that has been displayed at DHS by administration for many, many years, maybe it's time he made those much needed changes.

DHS needs a new leader. This one's run its course. Has Mrs. Reeves done some good in the last 10 years? Sure, she has. But when the bad starts outweighing the good, it's time to cut our losses and trade her in for someone new, someone with no ties to DHS. We're too big and too good to continue to use the 'good 'ole boy' system of treating students. Our students need to know that they will be treated fairly no matter what. They need to trust their leader. They should respect their leader, and not continue to trash their campus.

So, to those board members who voted to continue to support the leader they hired - my hat's off to you. Please allow him to follow through with a much needed plan.

If you look at the turnover rate at DHS in recent years, don't think it's going to get any better with the same principal in place. If you look at those who come out time and time again to support her, you'll not recognize many of them, because they're too new to know what's going on (heck, they're just happy to have a job). If you want your own children to be treated fairly, it's time to take a stand and search (or move into place) someone with integrity.

And, 10:42, there are many of us out there (who must remain private for obvious reasons {retaliation} who support the current superintendent, and furthermore, who don't support the current principal.

However, I do think we have members on the baord who are ethical, professional, and who have the student's best interest at heart. I don't think it's fair to attack them. Have you been to any recent board meetings and witnessed this unprofessionalism? If not, then keep your words silent unless you have support. Otherwise they may leave their offices, leaving behind someone worse. This is a thankless job, with long hours, no pay, and a lot of public scrutiny. Would you want it?

1:18 - I agree, the two lone votes against Gindt are seen frequently with Reeves. It's obvious they're the only support she has left. And yes, Reeves is Gindt's biggest problem. Allow him to make the much needed administrative changes, and give it a year. I'd bet my savings that it would be 100% better. Don't worry about a mass exodus from DHS if they get a new principal. 1:18 is right - the good ones will remain, and those who aren't tough enough will go. As it is now, the good ones are contemplating leaving. Trust me on this one - it's a fact.

It seems the local media keeps making a big deal out of the number of supporters who showed up at recent board meetings. But, consider the number or percentage, if you will, of those who DID NOT show up. Look at a list of THEIR names. These are our long-standing DHS teachers - the ones who have established careers and homes in Decatur - the ones we should be fighting to keep. If you want to know how THEY feel, then ask them!

Board members who want what's best for THEIR OWN children need to take a stand and choose NOT to extend Mrs. Reeves' conract. Then choose to fill this spot with someone of integrity - someone we can trust - someone who will lead DHS back from the dark side. After all, isn't your goal to attract and retain good teachers? The numbers in recent years prove that's not happening.

And to those of you out there reading this, take a stand, too. If you feel a change is necessary, then call your board members and share your concerns, your own personal experiences that prove we need a new leader up there. Tell them how you feel - after all you elected them to do a job for you. Give them the tools to do just that!

Anonymous said...

11:56
Perhaps you should consider the opinions of the entire faculty and staff at DISD. I believe you will find overwhelmingly that they are disappointed that only two board members voted against Gindt. DHS is not the only school in this district nor Melinda Reeves the only issue.

Anonymous said...

Some board members don't return calls when they are called about school issues. Does that mean they will do as THEY please and the community/teacher's views can go to hell? Seems that way.

11:56, Gindt has had SEVERAL opportunities to fire Reeves in the past few years, yet he chose to do nothing! You obviously have no clue about the "web" of control in DISD... it includes Gindt, Reeves and Story. Until they are all gone, nothing, and I mean absolutely NOTHING will be done! That is now evident, by the votes of the 5 lunatic board members who refuse to do a job they ran for. . . doing what is best for the community...not what is best for Gindt, Reeves and Story. New members hopefully will be elected this spring!

Anonymous said...

Thank you Mr. Luttrell for taking your job as a school board member seriously. I know the teachers appreciate when they feel like they are being listened to and supported. Also a big thanks to Mrs. Montgomery who has always be objective and voted her conscience. Pay attention other board members, your community IS paying attention.

Anonymous said...

That's right 1:18, she's working on two more of her own kind who will run for the board in May, and will slide into her back pocket, thus taking control.

Our job, now, is to seek and support more board members who will exhibit integrity. If those of you out there reading this have a vested interest in the education and welfare of Decatur's students, consider serving as a board member.

Any ideas?

Anonymous said...

That's going to take someone who isn't already soooo sick and tired of the POLITICAL BS DRAMA that constantly infests DISD that they want to be ill everytime they step on school property! Unfortunately, that doesn't leave very many.

Anonymous said...

You are all so full of it. Please name one instance that you personally know of where Dr. Gindt has been unethical or a poor leader. Don't tell me about some BS you heard from another person or teacher. Tell me about something you have experienced or witnessed personally. You probably can't. The man has always been friendly, fair and ethical toward me. I have asked him for advice on a couple of professional related issues in the past, and he has been more than helpful and insightful. I would dare say that most of the teachers that don't support him, just don't like him because of continuous improvement. He came here with a new plan and a way for students to achieve more, and you didn't like it because you had to work a little harder and teach a little better. Grow up and be a professional. The man has done a good job since he's been here. It's no wonder teachers don't get any respect. Most of us don't deserve it. We act worst than our students most of the time. Some of you might want to go back and read some of the crap you used to write in the plus/delta we used to do. It was like listening to a bunch of junior high girls arguing over who had the cutest boyfriend. Whether you support Melinda Reeves or not, doesn't really matter. If you worked anywhere else, and you went and complained to the boss for firing someone, then he/she would probably fire you to. Maybe everyone who has gone to the board meetings and said something, should get fired too for bucking the boss. Good thing for ya'll, that I'm not him. He has more political savvy than I do. I'd tell you to shut up or get a new job, just like the general manager at Wal-Mart would tell the checker who complained to him about the service manager that got fired.

Anonymous said...

12;26, aren't you clever? You want personal incidents that will "prove" that these posters know what they are talking about! How ridiculous! What you want is to finger who these posters are by tying them to this LIAR of a superintendent when the expose their PERSONAL experience with him!
YOu must live in your own little "blissful" uneventful world. YOu obviously have not one bit of sense when it comes to understanding leadership and ethics. YOu think just because the man didn't lie to YOU personally then he is exonnerated in all aspects of his "word" to others?
He LIES! I personally have been lied to by him and HIS STAFF! I have evidence of his lies. Why do you think this lastest "ooops" about M Reeves was all of a sudden hushed? It is because he tried to lie about that incident, but Reeves herself has evidence of his lying.
Go back and stick your head in the sand. The problems in the district seem to have passed right over your a**! And since you didn't "see" them.... uhh...they don't exist! duh!

Anonymous said...

Amen 5:10...12:26 WAKE UP

Anonymous said...

Clever...thank you. I take that as a compliment. My simple point is, that if you are so serious (and have any integrity whatsoever) then you would be man/woman enough not to accuse someone of being unethical or unprofessional without being willing to come out and accuse them to their face and give them a chance to defend themselves in front of the people who they work for. You talk about ethics and leadership. What kind of ethics do you have to accuse someone without any real evidence or an unwillingness to produce it. If you feel so strongly about it, then you should be willing to come out for the betterment of the district no matter what the consequences. If you don't feel it is worth your job, then you shouldn't be making accusations that you are unwilling to support. You may get fired or non-renewed (whatever you want to call it), but that's called integrity.

Anonymous said...

please define 'integrity' to Gindt.

Anonymous said...

4:29, you have not a clue of what occurs right in your own yard! I hope your classroom isn't too big, or you might be missing what is happening under your nose! Gindt is WELL AWARE of these lies and the FACT that many people know about them. The BOARD also knows, yet they continue to allow him to run the system. The BOARD has SEEN the evidence. Again, just because you are obviously on the outside looking in and you are not in the middle of the happenings...doesn't mean these things are not going on. How many times do you have to hear that before you understand it? This blog topic was about Gindt's renewal, and the reason the bloggers here are UPSET is because these people are IN THE KNOW and they also KNOW that the Board members are IN THE KNOW, yet they choose to do nothing. Well, except for two who have voted to stand for integrity in our system.
How long have you been around here? Most likely, not very long. Or else, you truly are an ostrich!

Anonymous said...

Hey 4;29, if the Board doesn't have this evidence, they WHY do you think they spent over 7 hours in debate over his extension? Why do you think Decatur has seen such an enormous exodous of teachers in the past few years? (More are leaving after this year) Decatur used to be the place to be. Openings in our system were very rare because it was such a good place to teach and live. No more. Problem is, we now have a board who can't even seem to make Gindt get the heat fixed in the Rann Elem building. Everyone just turns their heads. I guess it is easier to live the status qo and not rock the boat........even for the betterment of the schools in our community. I'm one teacher who will be leaving after this school year.

Anonymous said...

Maybe you ALL should check out the most recent Mess article (letters to editor): Time for ‘Tea Party’.
Tell me then that DISD doesn't have problems in the admin! Board, you JUST extended this super's contract knowing full well HE is the final say as to how the system is staffed. How's it feel to have this egg on your face!? Well, at least 5 of you! Thank you again to those board members who have voted for integrity and against idiocracy!

Anonymous said...

Whoa! Most of the HS waste is pre Gindt. Even if he knows, hard to get rid of when single lady board member is loyal supporter of Reeves. I promose you that board member's vote had nothing to do with integrity! She knows too, but all is ok, because she and principal are part of the clique. One of the men actually said, only reason he is on the board is to protect his child. Think about that one.

Anonymous said...

Actually, the way this school system is run, I can't really blame someone for running for the board to protect his/her child! Can you?
I agree, MANY in the admin need to go. As someone said earlier in these posts, start sweeping house from top down. Not sure where the integrity will be found though. Many people have "dirty hands" here.
Just wonder if it will ever be better. Isn't looking that way.

Anonymous said...

4:29, you are right on the money. The issues at the HS extend back 11 years.And, there's a whole town full of past graduates and their parents who know this. They've taken their issues to the principal, the superintendent, and in some cases, all the way to the board over the past 11 years. Yes, MOST of the problems began long before Gindt arrived. It is sad and unfortunate that they never came to be public, or else the principal would have been 'rode out of town' long ago. Those of you with children up there, and those to come, I only hope someone is bold enough to 'cut their losses' and let her go. If not, you better hope you never have to cross her, for yur child's sake. But wait, she's only on campus 2-3 days a week, odds are she'll never even know your child.

Anonymous said...

Gindt was hired to run the system. He should have seen long ago the wastefullness at the high school, and any other place, and fired those principals. He didn't. Therefore he allowed the waste to continue even though he was hired to oversee the entire system and its efficency. He has failed to do that. Fire Gindt, and hire a superintendent who WILL take care of seeing that principals run their campuses without waste or who will fire them if they don't.
Pitiful waste of taxpayer money. The "good ol boy" system has cost us entirely too much.