I'm sure there's some technical difference, but to this layman's mind, "crashed" implies twisted metal and fire. "Downed" could mean they ran out of gas too soon and emergency landed fine -- the aircraft, anyway.
I would check and see if the helicopter had black and white paint on it, you know like that found on a troopers car. Sounds like the troopers found their man and had a 3 am beat down party
At one time, Fort Wolters was an extremely large (land mass) installation. It was the primary, if not the only, training post for chopper pilots in the Viet Nam era. Before that, it had been an armored traing base. I believe the "tank firing" reference was simply to provide orienation as to the area where the aircraft was found.
Last night I saw 3 low flying aircraft just north of Boyd on 730 but they looked like fixed wing. It was around 9PM. Appeared to be heading south. Really strange to see. Had landing lights on and you could clearly see the little blue beacon lights. Related maybe?
The old Fort Wolters Primary Helicopter Training Base now houses a private prison, several oil field service companies, some manufacturing businesses, a branch of a community college, a city recreational complex, and a large National Guard training facility (tanks & all). The copter was supposedly down in the area of the Guard training facility. No known cause of death yet.
For once, Goober is mostly correct. Ft Wolters was the main helicopter training base during the Vietnam conflict. It was also used as a training facility afterwards for the Texas National Guard, for armored vehicles, among other things. And it was HUGE. You need lots of room to perform tank maneuvers
A helicopter can land after losing power without crashing, if the pilot is capable (I'm sure all chopper pilots get this training). If the main blades are still rotating, a soft landing can be achieved. I believe that would be the definition of a downed helicopter, as opposed to crashed. Downed might also mean he set down someplace where he had not intended to, in an emergency or at a place not intended to be used for chopper landings
The copter and male pilot are from Weatherford. Pilot was found dead inside the copter. Just him. Last name I believe is Stice. Construction business owner, been in bankruptcy, messy divorce going on, financial problems. I've been told, not a copter accident. Tarrant County will do an autopsy to determine cause of death.
omg do not mention ken "demigogue" hughes..he is worse that bishop could ever be. At least my freedom of the press means I don't have to read his rantings in the Mess..
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They found it "down" on the ground?
I've given this a lot of thought and have concluded that the helicopter lost altitude before it was downed.
Mmmm....almost makes you wonder if it was shot down.
Surely not.
I'm sure there's some technical difference, but to this layman's mind, "crashed" implies twisted metal and fire. "Downed" could mean they ran out of gas too soon and emergency landed fine -- the aircraft, anyway.
Call NCIS
Was there a banjo involved?
Wow, house of york never ceases to give amazingly thought out answers.
What color is the sky in your world?
Wow Jimbob! These new drones almost look like the real thing.
DF-Tank Commander
I would check and see if the helicopter had black and white paint on it, you know like that found on a troopers car. Sounds like the troopers found their man and had a 3 am beat down party
Wordkyle is correct. It's a military aviation thing. The terminology also helps the rescue crew know ahead of time what they will be facing.
At one time, Fort Wolters was an extremely large (land mass) installation. It was the primary, if not the only, training post for chopper pilots in the Viet Nam era. Before that, it had been an armored traing base. I believe the "tank firing" reference was simply to provide orienation as to the area where the aircraft was found.
Last night I saw 3 low flying aircraft just north of Boyd on 730 but they looked like fixed wing. It was around 9PM. Appeared to be heading south. Really strange to see. Had landing lights on and you could clearly see the little blue beacon lights. Related maybe?
A helicopter that is down is not up. A guy who is dead is not alive.
You lawyer types ain't real bright I guess
(*Standing at the firing line with my camo pants pulled up to my armpits and in my best Steve Urkell voice*) "Did I do that?"
12:03 Was it my sarcasm or my smart ass mouth that threw you off?
The old Fort Wolters Primary Helicopter Training Base now houses a private prison, several oil field service companies, some manufacturing businesses, a branch of a community college, a city recreational complex, and a large National Guard training facility (tanks & all). The copter was supposedly down in the area of the Guard training facility. No known cause of death yet.
My Other Brother Darryl
For once, Goober is mostly correct. Ft Wolters was the main helicopter training base during the Vietnam conflict. It was also used as a training facility afterwards for the Texas National Guard, for armored vehicles, among other things. And it was HUGE. You need lots of room to perform tank maneuvers
A helicopter can land after losing power without crashing, if the pilot is capable (I'm sure all chopper pilots get this training). If the main blades are still rotating, a soft landing can be achieved. I believe that would be the definition of a downed helicopter, as opposed to crashed. Downed might also mean he set down someplace where he had not intended to, in an emergency or at a place not intended to be used for chopper landings
The Weatherford Democrat is reporting that the helicopter was a privately-owned one out of Weatherford. No other details, though.
Well 1:04 if you are in fact house of york you may be dumber than I originally thought.
Constable bishop wasn't flying it or it would have been a CRASHED helicopter
Just saying.
it was a wierd-ass suicide of a local business man. nobody's saying too much about it but it appears he landed then killed himself.
Ken Hughes, is that you at 2:23?
The copter and male pilot are from Weatherford. Pilot was found dead inside the copter. Just him. Last name I believe is Stice. Construction business owner, been in bankruptcy, messy divorce going on, financial problems. I've been told, not a copter accident. Tarrant County will do an autopsy to determine cause of death.
I downed a 5th of scotch once.
Then I crashed.
3:34 Hahahaha. I have downed my husband many times and a few he don't know about.
2:45 I dunno who Ken Hughes is, but I'm sure that's funny to someone...
And no I'm not him...
2;28 Bishop has landed an airplane safely more times in one day than you have parked a car.
Yes 3:34 I know who you are and I want to thank you to.
10:11, he has also crashed more planes in one day than i have parked a car.
omg do not mention ken "demigogue" hughes..he is worse that bishop could ever be. At least my freedom of the press means I don't have to read his rantings in the Mess..
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