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11.29.2006

Anybody Know What's Going On?

From the Update.

60 comments:

Anonymous said...

heh heh!

Anonymous said...

people gettin' fed up! that's what's goin on! GLad to see it!

Anonymous said...

My kids are grown.....but all I can say is, It is Long OVERDUE!

Anonymous said...

It is Coach Lammers parting gift to BISD.

Anonymous said...

Just my opinion, but if Mr. Bland had been here last year none of this would have been necessary.

Anonymous said...

I hope they all figure out that the boys do have bigger and better, and then they look at ticket receipts and realize that if it were not for Football most of these programs would not exist as they are subsidising them all. Then what do you do.. Equal means equal so the girls programs have to fund themselves and tickets to a volleyball game are now 300$ each.

Anonymous said...

Football pays the bills. It's what people will pay $7.00 to go see. If anything, the band, drill teams and cheerleaders should get a cut, since a lot of parents are there to watch them, not football. As far as the other sports, with the possible exception of basketball, they require subsidy.

Anonymous said...

anon 10:51, Until we see some real, objective numbers on cost and total expenses of each program, I don't see how we can say that football even pays for itself, much less other programs.
Football resources should include several salaries, numerous pieces of equipment for 100+ sutdents, training equipment, etc. Compare this to girls volleyball and you're talking about one coach, and a very inexpensive uniform(compapred to a full footabll equipment set).

If we really want "fair", I'd like to see the total athletic budget divided by the total number of students and allocate that figure to each program times the number of participants. The ticket revenue can go to the sport that the event was for.

Anonymous said...

i agree football pays most of its way and it is what i will pay to go see. but i have a daughter who plays basketball and b-ports girls bball program sucks , big time. these girls do deserve at least what the boys get.
bport has 10-12 football coaches and the girls have a football coach's wife for varsity and one assistant.
it's not right and its gotta change.

Anonymous said...

and she sucks !!

Anonymous said...

Henson would too, if he had only one assistant!

Anonymous said...

Hmmm....familiar subject here. If I recall the Decatur Title IX mess, the officials were whining about the tons of paperwork they had to file before an investigator showed up. Oddly, the folks at BISD must have overlooked that little chore and are kinda denying that anything is going on. That fits a pattern too...the lying and denying is already beginning folks.
Stay tuned.

Anonymous said...

There seems to be some kind of idea among the lofty head coaches that violating federal law is the only way they can do their jobs. WRONG! The laws exist for a purpose and if that attitude persists, no laws would work. I think there should be an example set someday and let a few coaching and school board officials do about five years of hard time in a federal pen. I will bet schools would still do everything they should and never miss the criminals.

Anonymous said...

i believe that would be a tad bit harsh,
stupid!

Anonymous said...

Well ol son, here is what takes place in Bridgeport:

Volleyball coach Lori Lammers is a whine ass cry baby! Not to mention she cried to the parents when the Head Coach moved her. It was his call, and since I used to work with Lammers, I can tell you that she needed to be moved. Anyone who screams FUCK agt the kids needs to be moved! Look at what she has done with the kids (NOTHING) and look what has been done now that she is gone......I worked with Lammers and she is a loose cannon. And so are those that tried to use their $$$ and their business to promote Lammers. That is wrong.....I stand behind Henson, and as a former employee---THEY DID THE RIGHT THING. Henson can be more involved in girls athletics, but when I was there, I needed and he supported what I needed.

Anonymous said...

Anon 11:35....Are you saying Bridgeport did not respond and complete the paperwork? If you are, you are wrong. I know all the paperwork is filed and on-site inspection follows to finalize the investigation. Why don't we wait and see what the Title IX investigation turns up before we accuse people of wrongdoing? I know this is a novel concept to some but it is worth a shot. If there are problems and they are corrected, I for one think this is a good thing. I believe they will find issues but I doubt they will find what some people want them to find. A grudge is a heavy thing to carry.

Anonymous said...

FACT
1. No sport @ BHS pays it's own way! No Not EVEN FOOTBALL!
2. This is not about MONEY!
3. No-one expects the girls programs to have the same amount of $$! They should have similar facilites and qualified coaches.
4. When an athletic director hires a girls bball coach that has never even played the game.....you need a new AD!
5. Also, could someone research this: BISD starting teacher pay is $6000 below the state average?
6. Bridgeport's AD is one the highest paid in the state for 3A.
7. Taxpayers and parents have had ENOUGH!

Anonymous said...

b-port has not won at anything except football. all the other programs suck. i dont know if its the
AD or what but can our girls be that friggin bad at everything?

Anonymous said...

ANON 12:14
For the sake of our kids, thank goodness you are gone! Your lack of respect for your profession and yourself are obvious!

Anonymous said...

nobody gives a crap about lammers. she sucked and got what she deserved.

Anonymous said...

i heard a lot worse from the football sidelines this year. profanity should not be tolerated from teachers or coaches.
i can hear a teacher say " the fuckin decimal goes here , not way fuckin over here"

Anonymous said...

I don't think the feds would show up just to investigate some coach getting bounced for using the "f" word. But they would blitz in here with Jesse Jasckson and Al Sharpton to rain on your parade if you used the "n" word!

Anonymous said...

wonder if they can just pay off the investigators? hmmmmm...

Anonymous said...

If I remember correctly the Title IX investigation didn't turn out like most people figured it would in Decatur. Just guessing there are probably at least 2X more boys in athletics than girls or maybe 3X. How are there suppose to be equal facilities? With Henson every sport suffers except for Football and it doesn't matter whether it is for boys or girls. A baseball coach isn't hired b/c he is an outstanding baseball coach he is hired b/c hopefully he is a good football coach who is willing to coach baseball as well. So all of you parents of girls quit crying b/c it happens to boy athletes who compete in other sports besides football.

With that said football keeps his job and if that doesn't turn around in a hurry he may not have one.

Anonymous said...

Hey 12:18,

You say it is a FACT. How the hell do you know? Show me your sources!!

Show me the financial reports that back up your wild ass claim that football does not pay for itself.

Show me the wage scale of all the 3A AD's. I want to see it.

Show me the resume of the basketball coach.

Anonymous said...

You people need to get a clue. I choose to live in Bridgeport because I like it here and don't want to live anywhere else. My kids have gotten a good education here. When it comes time to hire a coach, how many applicants are there? The pay isn't great, the talent level isn't great, and now the facilities are just average. Did any of you complainers ever stop to think that the school district hires the best person that applies for the job, but the applicant pool is thin? By the time you juggle teaching fields with coaching duties, the qualified applicants fall out in a hurry. The AD doesn't set the salaries or the stipends, so you can't blame him for that can, you? There is a serious shortage of coaches for girls sports because most won't put up with the crap from girls parents. If things are so bad, maybe you should get a teaching certificate and throw your name in the hat.

Anonymous said...

HOT HEADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Anon 1:34 You hit on a very good point! I agree with you. The boy's parents accept that the other programs get no support because if they were to question Henson their kids would not play varsity football. It is sad and yet it is True!

Anonymous said...

True???? I have never seen a coach at any school penalize a kid because his parents are jerks. If the kid can contribute, trust me, they will play. Having said that, I have seen lots of parents that blame their childs lack of talent on the coaches and then accuse them of retaliation. Sometimes a coach can't just come out and say your kid isn't good enough.

Anonymous said...

You get average people when you pay average.
When you pay below average, you get what we have.
But, Most importantly *When you overpay someone, they know they can abuse the system and they can't leave or they would have to take a pay cut!

Anonymous said...

The problem may be in athletics but the responsibility for it is at the level of the superintendent, federal programs coordinator (Title IX) and the "Gomer Pyle" school board. "Gollee! We didn't thank we wuz the boss of the superintendent, we thunk he was hired to be our boss!" Things aren't quite as professionally done in rural Texas as we might expect elsewhere but the responsibiilty for running things right and in accordance with the law is exactly there. If a problem is uncovered, neglect at the top levels has casused it. They have no excuse for not following the law and auditing to make sure that everyone else does the same.

Anonymous said...

It wouldn't matter if BISD was compliant on every level, had excellent coaches, teachers, facilities, etc...The people of the community don't really seem to care that much; this is just a question of apathy! Mexicans don't really care much about an education...you don't really need to take elementary analysis to know how to start a lawn mower!

Anonymous said...

In regards to 12:23's comment.

The Bridgeport football program sucks. And when do they win? I don't recall them winning but maybe 2 games all season. And the basketball programs have done much better than that. Nice try.

Anonymous said...

Anon 2:40 nailed it. It is all on the board, which is a microcosm of the community that elected it, and continues to re-elect.

While the city and county grow, BISD enrollment is down 40 from this time last year. Things are the way they are, good or bad depending on one's own opinion, because most people are happy with it the way it is. If the majority of BISD voters were unhappy, the board would be making major changes or be changed itself. We'll see next election.

A prime example of what Anon 2:40 is talking about, one of our board members blamed our poor academic performance on the legislature. I won't mention his name, but he does a much better job of immitating Elvis than he does of an informed school board member.

Anonymous said...

As a school administrator, I can tell you the football program anywhere does not even pay the salaries of the coaches, much less the uniforms, field up keep, transportation, etc etc etc. Title 9 is a wonderful way to get revenge. However, Title 9 can't hurt you if your people are on top of all sports. There obvious problems that just need to be addressed.

Anonymous said...

Check out the same type of story on the CNN site. Interesting.....

Anonymous said...

Can't we all just get along !

Anonymous said...

Title 9 is the law. Either change it or follow it or pay the price.

Anonymous said...

Title 9 is a way to get REVENGE?? give me a break!! It's the LAW!! That mean anything to you, school administrator 8:36? It's attitudes like yours that make it difficult for equality to exist. Title 9 is set up so FOOTBALL isn't hurt one bit... do you even know the law? Nothing is taken away from football, but the other sports will not be neglected if the law is followed. REVENGE?? sheeeeesh... that's just a stupid remark!

Anonymous said...

The outcome of a Title IX discrimination finding is that the taxpayers have to make up school budget losses if federal funds are suspended. This is the result of board officials ignorant of the laws they are supposed to oversee and administrators who intentionally violate them. Rather than acting on our behalf, they are betraying the trust (and salaries) conveyed to them.

Here is the link Anon 9:57 was referring to and it is good information.

Anonymous said...

OOoops!! This link:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/EDUCATION/02/26/title.ix.report.ap/index.html

Anonymous said...

Try reading my whole comment. No need to worry about title 9 if you are on top of things (following the law!!!!!) Revenge yes. How many complaintants act when they first become aware of inequities? No, most overlook, live with it, until their circle is impacted. Then the complaint is filed not so much to address a wrong as to get even. Never had a title 9 filed, but give me a dollar for every grievance filed because a little darlin was not starting, wasn't getting enough press, didn't make all district, didn't get enough college scouts etc etc etc. And boy/girl percentage pretty much breaks even. Yes revenge can be at play.

Anonymous said...

Most do not "live with it"... most give time/opportunity for the administration to FIX wrongs that have been brought to the fore front in a filed grievance. It is when the coaches/administration choose to say "all is well" or choose to turn their heads until the "complainer" decides to shut up, that those people will finally take it to the higher level to achieve some kind of accountability to the law! It isn't to "get even!" but is to get administration to do their (your) job and see to it that the law is followed by the staff! Your word "REVENGE" conveys your true feelings here. How dare you say that to take a complaint to a higher level is done to "get even."
The OCR doesn't come out to a school to investigate unless there are wrongs being committed by a district. The fact that OCR IS in BISD shows there was merit in the complaints filed against the district. Parents will always "complain" when their kids don't play...etc. That is LIFE! Get used to that! But those things do not bring out the FEDS to investigate wrong doings done by a district's administration. THAT lies in your lap or your Board's.
Your response seems to imply that "administration" does no wrong...and those who say different are trouble makers. BISD should have tended to these complaints in a professional and accountable manner BEFORE a federal complaint had to be filed. Too bad they were not professional and law abiding enough to do that.

Anonymous said...

Anon 2:28....OCR does investigate every claim. How can you be so sure they will find something? They had to be onsite to measure dressing rooms etc. Some of the original complaints were so stupid, it is a shame the taxpayers of this district had to pay someone to respond.

Anonymous said...

OCR takes a few months to first investigate the complaint(s) to see if any of them have merit. Maybe some of them are frivolous.. but evidently some were not and enough "cause" was present for a complete investigation. Taxpayers? An audit of the school system would cost MUCH more! Remember the Decatur Superintendent saying they were "ok" with the OCR investigation because it gave them an audit of their district for free! Why do you think this investigation costs the taxpayers? Are you worried more budget will need to be approved to right the wrongs? Well.....that just might be, but whose fault is that? The OCR consists of federal investigators that draw a paycheck whether there is an investigation or not. The school administrators did have to reply to several inquiries by the OCR, but that was done with paper/copy machines..etc that are already in place in the district. Rest yourself of worries... it is costing the tax payers nothing.

Anonymous said...

Anon 3:10....I can assure you there is a cost associated with this investigation. Some of the allegations in the complaint are laughable. Why would the school district pay to have a fence moved at the softball field before the new lights were put up? The school board had already approved new lights but the contract had not been awarded yet. I have daughters in this school system so if there is a wrong, I want it corrected. I do know that my kids have been treated fairly and given the tools to succeed in all their extra-curricular activities, including athletics. I believe (not sure though) TitleIX covers all extra-curricular activities, not just sports.

Anonymous said...

Does it matter to you that the plan was to give the girls the older baseball lights and put new lights on the baseball field. The only reason that did not happen is they got caught! Anon 4:05
I for one have seen tremendous changes as a result of this! No one wants to take away from anybody or any other sport. But the girls can all tell you that this year they are being treated better than ever! It is a shame it took all of this for them to follow the law.
PS
Now the softball field has grass, sprinklers running, a regulation fence, a new scoreboard is on the way and even a press box... I am told! I'm sure it has nothing to do with the little legal matter!
LOL

Anonymous said...

Hello Anon 4:05, anyone home? What are the costs? What is laughable? Yes, Title IX covers everything. Happy your kids enjoy the school. Uh....you needed to express all of that?

Anonymous said...

anon 4:32....you are full of crap. The softball field was never to be awarded the old baseball lights. Those lights were to be taken by the Bridgeport Youth Association for the Soccer, Softball, and Baseball fields and I do have the minutes from the meetings to prove it....and will gladly produce those publicly. The fact is, I too welcome the Title IX. If there is something not right lets get it fixed. I also know for a fact that way before the Title IX the issues at the softball field were to be fixed. You can use the open records act to access the school board minures for that as well. But, you will have to go back a while. It was before the Title IX issue had ever entered your pathetic little vocabulary. The best policy for you is to not speak about something that you have NO facts about.

While on the subject, I hear some of the female athletes gave false information to the lawyers. i was not aware that the BOYS basketball Team got new uniforms EVERY YEAR. If they do, why don't they wear them? I think they should treat this as if one was in court. Lie about something, get kicked out of any UIL activities!

Anonymous said...

7:10 I bet this is just a bunch of spoiled little high school girls that lie all the time! Go Bulls!

Anonymous said...

Anon 4:36...I said there were costs associated with the investigation, not how much the costs were. That is only common sense. I don't want to take the time to find what those costs are. As for the laughable part, look at the allegations. I don't know of a person in this district that gives more of their time to athletes, male or female, than Newsom. All locker facilities are inadequate, not just the girls. The girls are not made to choose, they are given the option to work on basketball at the end of volleyball season. Big difference between making someone do something and giving them the option. Tell me where a "regulation" softball field is defined. I agree it is smaller than most, but has there been a problem with too many homeruns? Of the many games I have watched at that field, I have seen very few. It would be silly to have duplicate equipment to maintain both fields when the storage is so close to begin with. Those are just a few of laughable complaints. About expressing all of that...I didn't know a comment had to be negative in order to post on this blog. Maybe if you had something other than a negative thought, you would be a happier person.

Anonymous said...

I have to wonder how you have SEEN all the "laughable" complaints filed with the OCR. Were these published somewhere? I remember the Decatur complaints were published in the Messenger, but where were the BISD issues? Can you tell me where to find those?

Anonymous said...

AMEN to the last 3 posts.

I do however hate that there will be tax dollars spent on a locker room for the baseball boys, new uniforms for the football boys (since ALL other sports have had new uniforms since football did last),a seperate locker room for the power lifting team (since they have to share with boys basketball. Since the Volleyball moms complain about sharing a locker room with the basketball girls),a 4-wheeler for the softball girls to have to themselves(because walking acroos the road to the maintenance barn isn't fair),a new baseball fence(softball got one, fair is fair), etc., etc., etc. I would rather walk the streets of Harlem with a KKK robe on all night every night of my life than coach 1 sec of girls sports in Bridgeport or Decatur Texas. Well, I guess i would if mommy was ban from all events and their mouth super glued shut!

Anonymous said...

AMEN to the last 3 posts.

I do however hate that there will be tax dollars spent on a locker room for the baseball boys, new uniforms for the football boys (since ALL other sports have had new uniforms since football did last),a seperate locker room for the power lifting team (since they have to share with boys basketball. Since the Volleyball moms complain about sharing a locker room with the basketball girls),a 4-wheeler for the softball girls to have to themselves(because walking acroos the road to the maintenance barn isn't fair),a new baseball fence(softball got one, fair is fair), etc., etc., etc. I would rather walk the streets of Harlem with a KKK robe on all night every night of my life than coach 1 sec of girls sports in Bridgeport or Decatur Texas. Well, I guess i would if mommy was ban from all events and their mouth super glued shut!

Anonymous said...

They were printed in the Messenger and Index. Also, they are listed on the Friday Night Fever website, in the forums section.

Anonymous said...

When were they printed out in these papers? (date and issue) AND... WHERE on the Friday Night Fever forum are they listed? There are TONS of topics there.

Anonymous said...

Anon 11:22...Here ya go, copied from Friday Night Fever's forum section:
The Wise County Messenger printed a story in this weeks Thursday paper that had some of the 26 allegations against Bridgeport High School. The Messenger received their information after they filed for a Freedom of Information Act request to the U.S. Department of Education’s Office For Civil Rights in Dallas. They made the request shortly after Breaking the Story that a case had been filed against the Bridgeport School District. Here are some of the Allegations that the Wise County Messenger reported:

-"Inadequate locker space in female locker rooms."

-"Unequal treatment of the softball team."

-"An athletic trainer who refused to treat female athletes’ injuries, especially during football season."

-"Inequity in coaching staffs between boys’ and girls’ athletics."

- “An athletic policy in which girls are made to choose between an in-season sport and an off-season sport and boys are allowed to finish one sport before going to the next.”

- “The girls’ softball field is not a regulation field whereas the baseball field is. When the softball coach has asked the athletic director each of the last four years to have the fence moved back so the field is regulation, he has said no. He claims no one will do it.”

- “Softball team does not have immediate access to equipment necessary for preparing the field for games. Coaches must go to another site to obtain a 4-wheeler from the track or baseball field in order to drag and prepare the field for games.”

- “Cheerleaders do not cheer for all competitions. When the cheerleading sponsor was asked to have cheerleaders at volleyball games she refused because she claimed they would then be too tired to cheer for football games.”

- “Girls have to miss more academic time for travel to out-of-town sporting events because they are not allowed to have an afternoon athletic period; only boys are allowed the afternoon athletic periods.”

- “The bleachers at the softball field are not handicapped accessible.”

- “The girls weight room at the middle school is small in size and inadequate as compared to the new large, spacious weight room built for boys’ athletics as directed by the athletic director.”

- “Each of the last 3 years one or more girls’ sports has been short one assistant coach for various reasons and the athletic director has refused to reassign one of the many boys coaches to help with girls athletics according to district policy.”

- “Athletic director will not pay for girls coaches to belong to their respective coaches association yet he pays for the boys coaches to belong to the boys coaching organization.”

Anonymous said...

Thank you! After reading these over, I fail to find one that I construe as "laughable." It will be interesting to see the findings after the OCR completes its investigation. Many of these complaints sound like the ones listed in the Decatur complaint. I believe only 3 ( grievance process, girls agreement policy and boys baseball facility) were found to be non compliant. Strange thing was, the boys facility was not on the complaint list. However, I was told that the Decatur investigator did not interview people whose names were given to him (people who had their own evidence of non-compliance). Have to wonder how thorough a job was really done or was there some type of "agreement" made by the district and the feds before the OCR findings were published. It will be interesting to see the differences or similarities in both reports!

Anonymous said...

Anon 3:32...I believe some are laughable because they are untrue. If they were true, then not so funny. Regulation softball field? There are regulations regarding distance between bases, distance of pitcher's mound, etc. but not distance to fences. You would think the former softball coach (who filed the grievance I suspect) would know that. Not cheering at all athletic competitions is laughable. Unequal treatment of the softball team is more than a little open ended don't you think? I honestly do not know one person that doesn't want equality between the girls and boys. Just because a coach and a parent don't get their way doesn't mean an injustice has been done. Maybe common sense prevailed and they didn't like the outcome. One parent in particular is the driving force behind this and any time she doesn't get her way, watch out. Gnashing of teeth and fomenting every conspiracy theory in the book are her specialties.

Anonymous said...

Actually, I believe whoever filed the complaint should be commended. It is far more common that those who are victims of "ivory tower" putdowns just tend to finally go away, and nothing achieved. Administration gets its way by calling anyone who calls them on the carpet.."trouble makers." More parents should be standing up for what is right, be damned what others might say about them. I'm glad someone had the guts to say, "things are not right and you won't shut me off by saying I'm just causing trouble!" Checks and Balances are a part of the American system. There should always be an avenue for those who are bullied by the "ivory tower" finger shakers! BRAVO to those who make the American system work!