They are still grasping at straws, refusing to believe that a black man can actually be president unless it's a huge conspiracy to take the country into socialism. What a bunch of pathetic ostriches the right wing has spawned.
Would be just a whole lot simpler if the government did away with national holidays, such as Christmas. Just let people take vacation, or PTO, if they wanted to celebrate.
Probably started by the Obama administration to make people look kooky who stand up to his destruction of America then, wham, powey, you're all in a re- education camp summers or somethin.
Ahem... The name of the Capitol Christmas Tree has not been changed BUT religious themed ornaments have been banned from the CHRISTmas tree.
Here are the OFFICIAL Specifications for ornaments that are submitted for display on the Capitol Christmas Tree.
• 9 to 12 inches in size; decorated all sides and lightweight;
• Large, relatively simple design;
• Durable, weatherproof for use outdoors for three weeks in winter;
• 12- to 15-inch loop of coat-hanger weight (20 gauge) wire attached for immediate hanging;
• Colorful, reflective recyclable materials (such as aluminum pans) sought;
• No glass ornaments;
• No religious or political themes; and,
• Ornaments will not be returned and instead be donated to charities.
It is intellectually dishonest for there to be a CHRISTmas tree and to ban religious themed ornaments. Either change the name of the tree to a Winter Tree, omit the tree or permit the CHRISTmas tree to be decorated with religious ornaments. However, if there is a CHRISTmas tree, not a single Christian has any right to hiss and spit when any other religion demands a symbol of their high holy days is displayed on government property.
It must be true! WordKyle says that those "Liberal" just make stuff up and say it over and over. I am so glad the party of God does not make shit up and say it over and over.
The whole discussion of ornaments on the White House tree is disgusting. I am a Christian, but there are clowns, buildings, dogs, cats, music symbols (a bit of everything).....sheesh, what's this about.
The closest match to this rumor appears to be a brouhaha involving the Capitol Christmas Tree, which is set up every Christmas holiday season on the West Front lawn of the U.S. Capitol. Every year one of the fifty states is afforded the honor of supplying that season's Capitol Christmas Tree, along with 75 smaller trees to be dispersed around the Capitol, and residents of that state are invited to create and submit ornaments for display on those trees. In 2009, that honor fell to the state of Arizona.
The Capitol Christmas Tree program spurred a controversy in the autumn of 2009 over guidelines issued by the sponsoring U.S. Forest Service agency stating that submitted ornaments "may not reflect religious or political themes." However, according to that agency, those were outdated regulations which had been inadvertently posted to the Capitol Christmas Tree web site and are no longer in effect: There was information that no religious or political ornaments would be allowed on the tree.
But according to USDA forest service spokesman Jim Payne, it came from old information posted on the U.S. Capitol Christmas tree website and has since been removed.
So it was in effect at one point, but I'd guess after emails like the one you posted, it was hastily revamped due to the "Obama wet finger to see which way the wind is blowing" test.
Great that someone actually checks out these goofy emails claims. The right-wing conspiracy nuts are really stretching to cause problems - as if we don't have enough real ones.
In addition and for clarification... The ban on religous themed ornaments was indeed REAL and, not surprisingly, it was Obama's minions who declared the guidelines as a mistake and outdated, in a clear attempt to blame Obama's predecessor. Of course the excuse and change to the specifications was provided only AFTER the Alliance Defense Fund sent a Demand letter to state and federal officials siting the unlawfulness of violating the First Amendment rights of U.S. citizens. Incidentally, at no other time has the specification of; "No religious or political themes." been included in the list of specifications sent to any group invited to provide ornaments for any federal Christmas tree.
There is no longer a ban on religious themed ornaments but there most certainly was when the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION sent out the aforementioned specifications.
When is Obama and the OZombies going to take responsibility for the garbage that goes down during Obama's administration?
Pagans, mainly wiccans, created the symbol of the "christmas" tree. However, all of you Obama haters remember the Christmas tree was in the manger, right behind Santa. Double fake Joel Osteen
5;26 Do we always have to have a race card thrown in I mean give me a brake its over, blacks are no longer slaves. Leave it alone. Grow up and move on, this email has to do with taking Christ out of christmas and we all new Obama was a muslim and now he is just revealing it God help this country!!!
Do we always have to have a religion card thrown in? Christians feeling a bit threatened by Islam? Hmmm, it is the fastest growing religion on the planet, so that would be a resounding YES. I guess your prophet is better than theirs because he was born first. Oh scratch that, that means Judaism is best. Give me a 'brake'. Double Fake Abraham
9:54 - yes, Islam is the fastest growing religion. Should Christians be concerned? Yes, maybe they should spend more time in evangelism rather than in stupid posts about Christmas ornaments in the White house, and or jumping up and down in church rock concerts, or bashing Obama.
I think the Muslims should be concerned that so many "christians" have so much hate to offer these days!
I am a christian, but I believe i learned in school that this country was founded and believes in "freedom of religion". are ya gonna try to change that as well?
Give me a break!
BLAH BLAH BLAH
P.S. MZCHIEF...you are the most boring blogger on this site! Why don't you make some more money and create a desk calendar (ya know the kind ya tear the page off everyday) that states "Facts" about our great nation? Just don't let them know you are British! LOL!
They had to wait every four years til convention time...that is why they were and still are so out-of-touch!
Bush couldn't use a computer, nor his staff - that's why he allowed U.S. corporations to send the jobs overseas to the people who make $1/hr and and keep americans unemployed!
I would believe in Muslims if they had a guy like Santa Claus who brings toys to all good girls and boys every Christmas but all they got is guys wearing nasty ass camel hair robes squating in mud huts with kimby diapers on their heads chanting and suckin on water pipes.
3:32 - In light of your observations, I wonder why so many Christians are so fearful of Muslims. I say let them believe what they like, you believe what you like and I'll remain a non-believer. We need to keep track of the crazies in all groups while leaving the rest to pursue their lawful beliefs.
i have a simple thing for the Muslims when they stop beheading people for being Christians stop considering us infidels and participating in jihad against us the Christians as far as the tracking of the crazies our goverment already tries this here are the examples of who they believe are crazy ministers common citizens who do not support obama our returning milatary vets so if you think tracking people is good then your crazy the goverment should track the towel heads and know about them as they are at war with us and could cause harm to the citzens of this great nation
10:08 - your totally incoherent diatribe illustrates the total lack of intellect rampant in some quarters. I'll be happy to respond when you make any semblance of a sensible statement.
33 comments:
They are still grasping at straws, refusing to believe that a black man can actually be president unless it's a huge conspiracy to take the country into socialism. What a bunch of pathetic ostriches the right wing has spawned.
Would be just a whole lot simpler if the government did away with national holidays, such as Christmas. Just let people take vacation, or PTO, if they wanted to celebrate.
Probably started by the Obama administration to make people look kooky who stand up to his destruction of America then, wham, powey, you're all in a re- education camp summers or somethin.
Silly evangelical, right wing Christians. Don't they know we are on to their scams?
At least he is not a puppy killer like McCain and palin
Sounds like your buddy Keith is trying to stir up a hornet's nest.
An incomplete paragraph should do it well.
Yeah, they're going to be doing death panels instead.
ridiculous!!!!!!!! another viral email sent out by those loser 912ers and birthers!
Ahem...
The name of the Capitol Christmas Tree has not been changed BUT religious themed ornaments have been banned from the CHRISTmas tree.
Here are the OFFICIAL Specifications for ornaments that are submitted for display on the Capitol Christmas Tree.
• 9 to 12 inches in size; decorated all sides and lightweight;
• Large, relatively simple design;
• Durable, weatherproof for use outdoors for three weeks in winter;
• 12- to 15-inch loop of coat-hanger weight (20 gauge) wire attached for immediate hanging;
• Colorful, reflective recyclable materials (such as aluminum pans) sought;
• No glass ornaments;
• No religious or political themes; and,
• Ornaments will not be returned and instead be donated to charities.
It is intellectually dishonest for there to be a CHRISTmas tree and to ban religious themed ornaments. Either change the name of the tree to a Winter Tree, omit the tree or permit the CHRISTmas tree to be decorated with religious ornaments. However, if there is a CHRISTmas tree, not a single Christian has any right to hiss and spit when any other religion demands a symbol of their high holy days is displayed on government property.
It must be true! WordKyle says that those "Liberal" just make stuff up and say it over and over. I am so glad the party of God does not make shit up and say it over and over.
Let's see........I have a friend
All you need to know.
God help us all if my Christmas decorations indicate my plans for the future of my friends and family.
I was actally considering not putting up anything this year.
The whole discussion of ornaments on the White House tree is disgusting. I am a Christian, but there are clowns, buildings, dogs, cats, music symbols (a bit of everything).....sheesh, what's this about.
Is Keith a religious fanatic?
If so, I hope I never meet him.
Good one Mz. Yule right on target! Really, very good comment.
Thanks.
Wrong again Bozo. From Snopes:
The closest match to this rumor appears to be a brouhaha involving
the Capitol Christmas Tree, which is set up every Christmas holiday
season on the West Front lawn of the U.S. Capitol. Every year one of
the fifty states is afforded the honor of supplying that season's
Capitol Christmas Tree, along with 75 smaller trees to be dispersed
around the Capitol, and residents of that state are invited to
create and submit ornaments for display on those trees. In 2009,
that honor fell to the state of Arizona.
The Capitol Christmas Tree program spurred a controversy in the
autumn of 2009 over guidelines issued by the sponsoring U.S. Forest
Service agency stating that submitted ornaments "may not reflect
religious or political themes." However, according to that agency,
those were outdated regulations which had been inadvertently posted
to the Capitol Christmas Tree web site and are no longer in effect:
There was information that no religious or political ornaments would
be allowed on the tree.
But according to USDA forest service spokesman Jim Payne, it came
from old information posted on the U.S. Capitol Christmas tree
website and has since been removed.
So it was in effect at one point, but I'd guess after emails like the one you posted, it was hastily revamped due to the "Obama wet finger to see which way the wind is blowing" test.
Great that someone actually checks out these goofy emails claims. The right-wing conspiracy nuts are really stretching to cause problems - as if we don't have enough real ones.
In addition and for clarification...
The ban on religous themed ornaments was indeed REAL and, not surprisingly, it was Obama's minions who declared the guidelines as a mistake and outdated, in a clear attempt to blame Obama's predecessor. Of course the excuse and change to the specifications was provided only AFTER the Alliance Defense Fund sent a Demand letter to state and federal officials siting the unlawfulness of violating the First Amendment rights of U.S. citizens. Incidentally, at no other time has the specification of; "No religious or political themes." been included in the list of specifications sent to any group invited to provide ornaments for any federal Christmas tree.
There is no longer a ban on religious themed ornaments but there most certainly was when the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION sent out the aforementioned specifications.
When is Obama and the OZombies going to take responsibility for the garbage that goes down during Obama's administration?
Pagans, mainly wiccans, created the symbol of the "christmas" tree. However, all of you Obama haters remember the Christmas tree was in the manger, right behind Santa.
Double fake Joel Osteen
if it is an e-mail, it has to be true. right?
mzchief said:
When is Obama and the OZombies going to take responsibility for the garbage that goes down during Obama's administration?
We will get right on that, but right now we are a little busy trying to correct all the garbage from the previous administration
Obama hates anything white except Michael Jackson
5;26 Do we always have to have a race card thrown in I mean give me a brake its over, blacks are no longer slaves. Leave it alone. Grow up and move on, this email has to do with taking Christ out of christmas and we all new Obama was a muslim and now he is just revealing it God help this country!!!
Religious-themed ornaments were banned during the previous administration
In point of fact, online documents show that a ban on religious-themed ornaments was in effect in 2007 and 2008, though no one objected at the time.
Religion Banned on White House Christmas Tree Ornaments?
Netlore Archive
By David Emery, About.com
Maybe Bush was just a wolf in sheeps clothing!!!
More garbage President Obama gets blamed for!!
Do we always have to have a religion card thrown in? Christians feeling a bit threatened by Islam? Hmmm, it is the fastest growing religion on the planet, so that would be a resounding YES. I guess your prophet is better than theirs because he was born first. Oh scratch that, that means Judaism is best. Give me a 'brake'.
Double Fake Abraham
9:54 - yes, Islam is the fastest growing religion. Should Christians be concerned? Yes, maybe they should spend more time in evangelism rather than in stupid posts about Christmas ornaments in the White house, and or jumping up and down in church rock concerts, or bashing Obama.
Sheesh.
I think the Muslims should be concerned that so many "christians" have so much hate to offer these days!
I am a christian, but I believe i learned in school that this country was founded and believes in "freedom of religion". are ya gonna try to change that as well?
Give me a break!
BLAH BLAH BLAH
P.S.
MZCHIEF...you are the most boring blogger on this site! Why don't you make some more money and create a desk calendar (ya know the kind ya tear the page off everyday) that states "Facts" about our great nation? Just don't let them know you are British! LOL!
Christians....Lol.
The war on the war on Christmas is kicking off a little early this year, eh?
Before email, how did right-wing rubes pass unwarranted and untrue information between each other? Passenger pigeon?
11:13 am
They had to wait every four years til convention time...that is why they were and still are so out-of-touch!
Bush couldn't use a computer, nor his staff - that's why he allowed U.S. corporations to send the jobs overseas to the people who make $1/hr and and keep americans unemployed!
I would believe in Muslims if they had a guy like Santa Claus who brings toys to all good girls and boys every Christmas but all they got is guys wearing nasty ass camel hair robes squating in mud huts with kimby diapers on their heads chanting and suckin on water pipes.
3:32 - In light of your observations, I wonder why so many Christians are so fearful of Muslims. I say let them believe what they like, you believe what you like and I'll remain a non-believer. We need to keep track of the crazies in all groups while leaving the rest to pursue their lawful beliefs.
i have a simple thing for the Muslims when they stop beheading people for being Christians stop considering us infidels and participating in jihad against us the Christians as far as the tracking of the crazies our goverment already tries this here are the examples of who they believe are crazy ministers common citizens who do not support obama our returning milatary vets so if you think tracking people is good then your crazy the goverment should track the towel heads and know about them as they are at war with us and could cause harm to the citzens of this great nation
10:08 - your totally incoherent diatribe illustrates the total lack of intellect rampant in some quarters. I'll be happy to respond when you make any semblance of a sensible statement.
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