3.18.2009

Star-Telegram Story

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82 comments:

Anonymous said...

When did making a draw on a line of credit for a start-up business become so unusual? That hospital is doing better every day and will be in operation for many years to come. Give us some real news.

Anonymous said...

I hope it shuts down! Do you know that when they get a patient that they are unable to treat there, those Dr.'s transfer those patients to a Fort Worth or Dallas hospital? They refuse to use Decatur, their competition. It is absolutely ridiculous to do this to these families when there is a perfectly acceptable hospital about 10 miles away.

How does it benefit a 90 year old couple to drive to downtown Fort Worth to be treated, when they can get the EXACT SAME CARE in Decatur??!!

And I don't want to hear that Decatur is a breeding ground for death anymore. The Cardiac program that they have established is straight out of "The Heart Hospital" on the Dallas side of the metroplex. And I've seen it save lives. Multiple lives. I've seen Bridgeport just not treat a critical patient, waiting for that pt to be shipped to a hospital 60 miles away for treatment. Not good.

Anonymous said...

You better rethink that 8:29.

"It is absolutely ridiculous to do this to these families when there is a perfectly acceptable hospital about 10 miles away."

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't want to be transferred to Decatur, anyway. It has everything to do with the attitude of the care providers there. There is a ER physician that loathes dealing with people. After two times dealing with him, we take our children to Cook's in Fort Worth.

Furthermore, since Decatur is affiliated with Baylor, it means they're getting worse. Nothing but bad experiences with Baylor and Baylor-affiliated hospitals. Birds of a feather.

Recently took my dad to the ER in Bridgeport. He was just there overnight, but much better than Decatur.

Anonymous said...

A Hard Days Night was on last night and it was still cool.

I felt like I was 8 years old again when they broke into She Loves You.

Anonymous said...

8:29 You use the term "perfectly acceptable" rather loosely. The Decatur facility has a decent nursing staff, but some of their physicians and management are complete morons. I'd rather be in the Bridgeport facility any day.

Casual Observer said...

Here we go---the battle of the Big Sandy.

Anonymous said...

What was the score of this year's BOBS? Woops, Bridgeport wins again!

Anonymous said...

Before you go to the Decatur hospital ER you need to know what we have come up against as well as other people. When you have insurance, your insurance will pay for the treatment of the ER BUT they do not pay for the ER doctor. He is not affiliated with the hospital and out of network so you have to pay him yourself. 3 hours in ER and the doctor bill is 621.00 that the insurance will not pay. Ask before you get treated, if the ER doctor will be covered before you get STUCK like us and everyone else.

Anonymous said...

Remind me. Why did the Bridgeport Hospital open?

oh right. ego.

Anonymous said...

I have had my kids at Bridgeport 4 times in the last 60 days, MRI's and Xrays, but was a little stunned when I got the EOB that the hospital had failed to contact the insurance company before performing these tests to get authorization. I thought I was going to get stuck but under their contracts, the hospital has to eat it... see 2.4 million in unbilled charges from the story. I think it will all work out but thats a huge mistake to make up for.

Anonymous said...

I have heard numerous accounts from their billing department. I think they are closing their eyes, crossing their fingers, and hoping for the best.

tsk. tsk.

Anonymous said...

what happens if they close down anyway? never heard of a "going out of business" sale for a hospital.

half price MRI? gift with purchase free xray?

Anonymous said...

9:10 You are dead on. The egos of the Decatur hospital management and board were a major reason. They continue to be a problem and will eventually lead to Decatur becoming a full-fledged Baylor facility.

Anonymous said...

Wise County needed another alternative.Took our kid to Decatur and while there he got a dose of childrens tylenol.That one dose cost 600 dollars and somehow got charged twice.You can buy the whole bottle for 5 bucks.

Anonymous said...

9:29 Welcome to Hospital Billing. That is not a Decatur specific happening.

Anonymous said...

I HAD TO GO TO BRIDGEPORT FOR AN XRAY WHEN I BROKE MY LEG JUMP ROPING, THIER radiology DEPARTMENT WAS GREAT, ID GO BACK

Anonymous said...

9:40

Did you pay your bill?

Anonymous said...

9:29

FYI-aches and pains can be treated at home with said $5 bottle of tylenol. Paranoid people clog up the ER, thus adding to the mess with billing and staffing.

wait, let me guess-you don't have insurance, so you didn't even pay your bill?

Anonymous said...

Bridgeport Hospital almost killed me, I went to Ft. Worth......WRHS is not much better...

Anonymous said...

9:45 just because you have insurance doesn't mean it will pay. I have insurance and I went to Bridgeport Hospital ER and insurance is not paying a penny, and I'm not going to pay my bill. I have plenty of money, I'm just choosing not to pay because of the ridiculous amount that they are charging. I do hope they go out of business, I'll never go there again. Please don't anyone take me their unless I'm DEAD. Get it, I don't like that hopsital.
Maybe Mzchief ought to go there and get medical help for her bitchiness. I know you are reading this Mzchief and your blood pressure just shot up a few points, well all I've got to say is GREAT. Take a pill and shut up nobody wants to hear about your ignorant self.

Anonymous said...

There is a major difference in the operating procedures of the two hospitals. Like stated above the ER Doctor's charge from the Decatur facility is absolutely fraud. The hospital has allowed them to work in this capacity. They do not accept any insurance period. Therefore, you are now out of network so in most cases your deductible is higher and your out of pocket expense is raised from $3000 to $6000. They do not care about the patients they are treating or this would not happen.

I have been a victim of this scam and when I spoke with management all they could say is that it was normal for an ER to be operated in that manner. However that is an absolute lie. Harris Hospital requires all ER Doctors to accept any insurance provided even during the follow-up process at their own offices. How do I know this? I researched the answer and I will never attend the Decatur Hospital for any reason because of this.

I have been to the Bridgeport Hospital and was pleasantly surprised by the service and care provided. At the time of my visit they were still in the process of getting some contracts in place with insurance providers. They told me this up front and that their procedure is to accept the out of network pay scale from the insurance companies and eat the remainder of the bill. This means they were not going to pass on the additional charges to patients. Of course this probably has a lot to do with the 2.4 million they are out.

Just a difference when the people running the facility care about the community they serve. No doubt they will make it through.

Anonymous said...

9:58

good grief. All hospitals have DOCTORS with DEGREES. I've never understand this "decatur hospital sucks' attitude. They've trained, they treat people, and now WRHS has plenty of specialites with doctors from even THE BIG CITY OF DALLAS. So, in effect, Decatur is just as much of a hospital as any in fort worth.

like I said. good grief.

Anonymous said...

Good thing we don't have guraranteed medical coverage (socialized medicine) in the USA. The damn hospital treatment and health care system would sure be crappy if we did. We are all fortunate to live in a country where only 50 Million American's don't have any medical coverage and the rest of us have the safety of hospitals like WRHS and Doctor's Hospital!

Anonymous said...

Anybody know where you can find online the financial disclosures referenced in the ST article? Does the hospital file with the SEC?. A start up that burns through $3 million in 6 months and then layoffs off that many people may not be "doing better every day" as number 1 commenter wrote unless they have a boatload of receiveables coming in.

Anonymous said...

10:09 that makes no sense.

Anonymous said...

Don't think for a minute that Dr's Hospital is going to eat 2.4 million. Someone will pay...probably Medicare.As for the ER at WRHS, my husband was DOA, ER doctor charged 1000.00 to shake my hand and tell me he was dead. I know he did nothing because I arrived at the ER before the ambulance did.

Anonymous said...

I hear people talk about how the Canadian's have a bad health care system, but the people in Canada are much healthier in general than people in the USA and they would not trade what they have for what we have. Another interesting thing about Canada is that they are handling their national debt much differently than we do. They don't have a national debt because they have a balanced budget each year and pay as they go. About 90% of us are one bad illness in our family away from bankruptcy. If you keep doing the same thing you keep getting the same results. Good luck with your health care folks, you are basically on your own.

Anonymous said...

9:45 I'm not the person you’re bashing but, we had a WC injury that was sent to the facility in Deadcator which ended up with the following results:

-Injury was much more severe than diagnosed
-Employee was treated horribly by doctor as soon as it was known to be a WC injury
-Employee had to beg for injury recovery items that were required

Luckily, he was sent elsewhere immediately for treatment because of Deadcator's pathetic excuse of a facility. Pretty bad when the second facility makes non-instigated comments as to the degree of bad choices made by Deadcator.

I have many other REAL stories I could share if you like.

Anonymous said...

Somw people are never happy. We DO have a first-class facility in Decatur. Do they make mistakes? Sure. Does Harris? You bet. For some reason, people just like to bash whatever is in a small town. Are people in small towns stupider than those in the city? Nope! So, our doctors aren't any worse either. They just choose to live in a small town like you.

Maybe the poor attitudes aren't from the hospital..........

You just can't please everyone!

Anonymous said...

Well, folks, just try the wound center in Decatur. They have wonderful staff there - caring and professional, but the doctor in charge puts everybody and their dog in the hyperbaric chambers at about two thousand dollars a whack. Even some of the other doctors think this is unnecessary.

Outrageous. A LOT of procedures and medical testing goes on particularly for those on Medicare and with good private insurance.

We should never be afraid to question these folks. It is after all OUR bodies, or the bodies of those we love.

Anonymous said...

10:04, merely having a degree means nothing. You can operate a computer, but you're still a dumbass.

Anonymous said...

whaaaaaa...booooo hoooo hooooo. You people are all morons! STFU

Anonymous said...

10:23--Canadians only appear healthier because they are afraid to get sick and have to go to the doctor or hospital.

Anonymous said...

can someone explain how egos built a hospital in Bridgeport? silly me, I thought it was based on need?

Anonymous said...

12:04 With a "world class" facility like Wise Regional in neighboring Decatur, how in the world could folks in Bridgeport and western Wise County need anything else??? How dare they think they need their own hospital? If their community hospital goes down the tubes, then Wise Regional is the only game around like the good 'ol days. I'd make a wager that Wise Regional is at the bottom of this story anyways. Just sayin.

Anonymous said...

Hospitals, like schools, can't just focus on their missions anymore, because we are a nation of idiots who don't know how to parent or take care of ourselves.

Anonymous said...

Does anybody know how or why a second hospital was authorized so close?

Decatur and Bridgeport aren't big enough for *two* hospitals. Talk about cutting off your nose.

Anonymous said...

Years ago when both communities were much smaller, both had hospitals which thrived. So, 12:28what was your point again?

Anonymous said...

12:32

Weren't those the days when Bridgeport sent their emergencies to Decatur, and Decatur sent theirs to Ft. Worth? You're right, that's MUCH better than increasing the services and quality in one hospital to better serve the needs of both towns.

Anonymous said...

12:32, so the former Bridgeport hospital thrived to the point of disappearing?

Casual Observer said...

Who the hell is NOT having financial difficulties? Laying off and drawing against a LOC? Lots of companies in that position right now. Does not mean they are not good companies doing a good job. It is simply the times we are living in.

Anonymous said...

1:07 The old Bridgeport Hospital did very well until it sold to out-of-area owners who mismanaged it into closure. There was never a shortage of patients. The current hospital is truly a community-oriented hospital and it will survive its rocky start. Wise Regional will one day be Baylor-Decatur and will be even further removed from the community it serves.

Anonymous said...

Canada vs USA Health Care and Debt

USA: 50,000,000 no health insurance
$ 11,025,888,225,151 Nat'l Debt

Canada: O uninsured
0 National Debt

Anonymous said...

What do you want to bet that the Satr Telegram rag is actually in more financial trouble than the Bridgeport hospital???

Anonymous said...

Move to Fn Canada then. Our healthcare system is in such a mess b/c people aren't responsible for themselves. They want govt to provide healthcare while they scarf down cheeseburgers and cokes. Not to mention how many packages of smokes they go through a day.

The people in Canada come to the US in groves everyday for medical services. I have a customer based out of Canada whose mother just left a US Hospital from surgery. It was an eighteen month waiting list to have that operation in Canada. All they did was gripe about the healthcare they receive from the waiting lines to the higher taxes they pay so they can receive healthcare from the Nation they live in.

The healthcare system in the US would be in much better shape if every citizen was responsible enough to carry private insurance. The more participation the cheaper the insurance would be. The hospitals lose absurd amounts of money everyday from people who don't pay their bill and have no insurance. The cost for services would decrease.

Anonymous said...

2:05 I have insurance and it didn't pay when I went to the ER, so I guess I don't fit your description in your last paragraph.
Guess what I'm not going to pay the hospital (Doctors' Hospital)

Anonymous said...

ER docs are contracted - not employed by Decatur and exactly what you're going to find at any other hospital in Dallas, etc. What you won't find in Decatur? 13+ hour wait times in the ER like you would if you had to go to a Metroplex ER.

As for the idea that our docs are "local" docs? Really? People still think that? I think it's safe that more than 95% of the docs practiced at other facilities that the complainers think are "superior".. Same care, folks.

The Bridgeport hospital, however, is made up of "local" docs. That's it. General care physicians - not specialists, like you're going to find at Decatur. But, if you're okay getting your diagnosis for Cancer from the same guy that delivered your kid and stitched up your knee, than more luck to you.

You can't please everyone and the whiners are going to make the loudest noise. You have a choice where you go, so make it and stop complaining. I'd much rather have a hospital like Decatur so close than nothing at all!!

RPM said...

I went to the WRHS ER with chest pains. They kept me overnight and told me it was a panic attack. Odd, since I've never had one in my life. (I also got screwed by the ER Dr. billing scam!)

I decided to follow up with my Dr. in Ft. Worth and he immediately sent me to a Cardiologist at North Hills Hospital. He said I already had 1 heart attack and was about to have another. 20 minutes later I'm on the operating table getting 2 stents.

Tell me again how great Wise Regional Death Mill is. I wish Bridgeport was open when I needed a competent ER.

Anonymous said...

1:42 says, "Canada vs USA Health Care and Debt

USA: 50,000,000 no health insurance
$ 11,025,888,225,151 Nat'l Debt

Canada: O uninsured
0 National Debt"

This is quite possibly the most retarded logic I've ever seen used anywhere- stay off the dailykos.com it's going to rot your brain.

Bridgeport Hospital came about as the result of arrogance and a sense of misplaced community pride. I remember all the jack o lanterns posting here about how proud you were, how you hoped Decatur Hospital went out of business, how your gran pappy nearly died in Decaturs ED ad infinatum when I said on here a hospital in Bport would never work- when it was only a bad rumor.

With modern construction costs, a high percentage of uninsured patients and the operating costs of a modern hospital Bport doesn't have and never will have the base it needs to support itself.

It will soon lie empty until it finds itself I'm guessing converted to doctors offices, therapists offices medical supply stores and a long term care facility with a little urgent care department.
You hide and watch.

Anonymous said...

All I know is, I've taken my dog......oh wait....I wouldn't even take my dog to Decatur Hospicable.

My bad.

Anonymous said...

2:05 some of us are not able to afford health insurance. Some of us barely pay the bills we do have.
It has nothing to do with being a responsible citizen. If the money is not there, neither is the health care. If you've got a solution I would be happy to hear it because I live in fear of getting sick.

Anonymous said...

It will soon lie empty until it finds itself I'm guessing converted to doctors offices, therapists offices medical supply stores and a long term care facility with a little urgent care department.
You hide and watch.

Hey 2:34 are'nt you referring to Wise Regional?

Anonymous said...

WOW RPM! Thank goodness, you followed up on that with a doctor who knew what they were doing. Oh my.

I am so sick of hearing stories like this. It's becoming too common place. I am totally shocked that someone has not filed complaints with the state about that place.

Anonymous said...

3:07
I understand that some people actually can't afford insurance for a multiple of reasons but there are plenty of people out there who just don't think it is necessary.

They choose to spend their money on other things. For instance, what kind of car do you drive, how often do you eat out, do you spend money on booze/smokes, buy lotto tickets, go to WinStar, and obviously the list goes on and on.

Healthcare is a necessary evil and until participation increases the cost will be extremely high. The insurance companies get charged a higher rate b/c they know the money is coming and it allows them to absorb some of the costs from the indigent's.

2:12
You need to check with the hospital and your insurance company b/c the hospital is accepting all money paid by the insurance company as final payment until all their contract are in place.

Anonymous said...

If the ins company says the ER doctor is out of network, call the hospital and ask to speak with a financial counselor and they can provide you the number of the person who handles the out of network issue at the billing company. It's an extra step or two, but it'll get you on the right path to take care of it. It's what I had to do.

Anonymous said...

Wait a minute! Didn't we (taxpayer) put up 3 million dollars for that hospital? It seems to me if they go under........ we pay, or maybe we've already started paying.

- Taxpayer

Anonymous said...

Do those that are so proud of Canadian health care and policies even know a Canadian? I do. I work with one every day in a Fire Station. Want to know why he isn't a Canadian anymore?

And for all of those that have a bad story about Decatur, there is one for Harris Downtown. And JPS. And especially Medical Plaza, who the Bridgeport Doctors seem to favor shipping out stuff that they are INCAPABLE of handling. Coming from someone who sees Medical Plaza in all their glory, I would not willingly go there myself.

It is about ego and money. Why else would Doctors that have a vested interest in Decatur NOT making money, transfer patients to Downtown hospitals....Causing some little old lady to drive an extra 50 miles in traffic to visit her husband.

Why would the Dr's from BPort not make rounds to visit you, or set up your care plan, if they are your PCP and you go to the Decatur hospital? Money. It's not about you or what's best for the patient. It's about their money.

And to the idiot that insists he was misdiagnosed by Decautr and wished BPort was already open...Don't you realize that it was the same people treating you at Decatur that are running BPort now? If anything, I'd say that now that those jackass PCP's are gone, Decatur is better off for it!

Anonymous said...

Anon 5:20

PREACH ON BROTHER! These folks seem to all think this is a wissing contest between two Mascots. It's all about money, money, and more money, and nothing to do with town rivalries. Most of the docs at that future closed Bport hospital still have offices in Decatur and don't live or spend their money in Bport........

Anonymous said...

RPM = Really Podunck Moron

Anonymous said...

2:26PM, 12 hour waits? I've been to the Irving hospital many times and never had to wait that long. Just like the people spouting off against UHC, you're full of it.

Anonymous said...

0205, I thought the only ones sneaking into the U.S. in groves were the Mexicans...as in mango groves, orange groves, etc.

Perhaps you meant droves?

Anonymous said...

if you live in b-port you have to be sick anyway.


thats a fact


joe duty

Anonymous said...

Hey, were going to start a new business in Bport, although it's been tried and failed. Thank goodness we can depend on the good citizens of Bport to foot the bill for use. If our new business fails we will blame it on the competing business in Decatur.

-Double Fake Doctors Group

Anonymous said...

What does it matter! The messycans won't have to pay for nothing. Theyare no longer minorities. Our government will continue to cater to them.

Anonymous said...

10:00 am, while most of what you have to say is probably or possibly, true, I have to disgree with all of you who say that WRHS ER doctors do not accept insurance.

That's simply not the case, or at least it wasn't in our case. We spent several hours in the ER over Christmas, and while I was quite disappointed that we had no choice, nor did we know, that the ER doctor was out of network, he did accept insurance. At least that's what my EOB states. He's out of network, so my insurance covers it at 60% rather than the normal 80%. Also, if you catch the right person at that out-of-network doctor's billing office, they might reduce the amount you pay since he was out of network, to what you would have paid had he been in network.

Anonymous said...

10:09 that makes a lot of sense.

Anonymous said...

Wise Regional stays in the black because of medicare fraud billing and collecting! Also, they spent way too much money on building but cut on patient care. Making a bad decision, I had surgery in their new surgery center that has 5 operating rooms. The nurse on duty told me I might have to wait to go to the bathroom since she was the only nurse on the floor and I was doing better than the other patients! My family stayed all night thank goodness to help me.

The emergency room is so bad that my husband told me if I couldn't get him to Harris next time, just drop him off at the funeral home.

That is why the Bridgeport Hospital was built. Patient care at Wise Regional is not good for your health.

And also, since it is owned by the City of Decatur, your family can't sue them for killing you!

Anonymous said...

YOU PEOPLE BITCH ABOUT EVERYTHING ITS PRETTY SIMPLE YOU DONT LIKE IT DONT GO THERE.

Anonymous said...

This is not about Bridgeport vs. Decatur hospitals it is about mismanagement of money (which Bridgeport residents are going to pay with tax increases) and people who don't care. People who are in it for the "name" not the passion they should have of taking care of people.

Anonymous said...

8:22 Decatur and Bridgeport will probably join together to get a bail out from county tax payers. Both will be county hospitals and we will be taxed to pay for their big buildings and bad management!

I thought years ago the reason for renaming Decatur Hospital to Wise Regional was to go to a county wide hospital.

The treatment of the day is bailout, isn't it???

Anonymous said...

Hey Decatur, Will trade the Bridgeport Hospital for Lowe's,Whataburger an a business to be named later (after the smoke clears)

Anonymous said...

The Hospital in Decatur is OWNED by Decatur? Your an idiot too... Neither one of those hospitals are government owned. I swear the ignorance hear is astounding.

Anonymous said...

2:18 learn how to use correct grammar.
I swear the ignorance hear is astounding.(here)

Your ignorance is astounding dumbass.

signed college graduate

Anonymous said...

2:18...Decatur City Council votes for the board members of WRHS. Decatur receives no tax money from anyone, but is a local government (nontaxing) authority as designated by the State of Texas. Not sure what you mean by government owned, but it is a government entity.

Anonymous said...

2:18 You're a Tard (like Mzchief) for using the word your instead of "you're".

Anonymous said...

237&353, mabi you are the terds cause youens been had by 218. HaHa.

Anonymous said...

I spent about three hours in WRH one evening with my brother in law who was having chest pains.They put him one of the beds there and monitored him.THere was four babies there from infants to about seven.All but the older ones were crying every breath.The younger one cryed itself to sleep so they left. The older one finally puked so long she s--t through her nice new sweat suit.Later some sand ------doctor came out and saw all three in fifthteen minuits Discusted DAGO ps this wont be published but I got it off my chest.

Anonymous said...

I spent less than 24 hours in WRHS in Decatur. Bill..... over $13,000! ONE cat scan over $6000! Meds over $1500~ ..........in LESS THAN 24 hours!!! Something is very very very very W R O N G here!

Anonymous said...

9;52 I'll bet you haven't gotten your last bill yet.I finally had to call ahead and have my bill closed out with a notation that my bill was paid in full for that problem.Certainly don't mind paying what I owe but if you are a paying coustmer it won't ever end.Three months later I got another dun from some place;Ithink out of state.It was a little slick for what I used it for,DAGO

Anonymous said...

Are you blind and stupid? they've let off lots of their employees with many more lay-offs to come, so says a nurse manager at the hospital. they're headed down the tubes, which is appropriate considering their vendettas for starting up in the first place. And what about the malpractice? Do YOU want to travel to Dallas when your heart muscle's dying when there's a heart program in Decatur, right down the road???

Anonymous said...

I give them about 3 months and they'll have to close their doors. Serves everyone of them right for starting something we didn't even need in this area. Wise Regional is growing every day, has an exceptional cardiac program, excellent bariatric, obstetrical, and orthopedic services, and far exceeds anything a bunch of bitter general practitioners could ever dream of doing. I am a nurse and have worked with them all, and as for me and my family, we'll stay with Wise Regional....far better than any facilities in Ft. Worth, Denton, and WAAAAY better than "Doctors Hospital".