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9.26.2007

"They're Lying Through Their Stinkin' Teeth . . . I Don't Know What They're Saying . . . . "

video As I test this blog's new video upload function, I thought I'd upload this clip from Fox 4 News tonight. The City of Irving is now taking steps to contact the Feds every time they arrest a person who just happens to be an illegal immigrant. Some claim that the cops are profiling those that "look" like they may be illegal. Those featured in this clip, who might be a little bit "country", tend to disagree.

31 comments:

Anonymous said...

What a concept. Enforcing the law. This just might catch on.

Anonymous said...

10:33 yes!!!
and barron, YOU are 'country' and I am also. and damn proud of it.

Anonymous said...

I am so glad I left that place. I am ashamed that I was born there.

Of course then I moved here. If there is any place worse than Irving, its Wise County. That is saying something.

Anonymous said...

If a person is here illegally and gets arrested for anything, why are they surprised that they are being deported? If they want to stay here either get a green card or stay out of trouble.

Anonymous said...

thank you, 8:24.

Anonymous said...

8:08, No matter where you live, you are going to get your pathetic little feelings hurt because most people believe in the rule of law and want to see it enforced. Do your doors have locks on them? If so, why? Shouldn't the illegals be allowed to just come on in and make themselves at home?

Anonymous said...

Kudos for Irving! More cities should follow their example of actually enforcing the law since our federal gov't ignores it.

Anonymous said...

Actually they ARE being allowed to just come in and make themselves at home.

Suggestion for 8:08 - move to Connecticut. Yale law students there are representing 10 illegal aliens who were arrested. They claim their civil rights - including right to due process, free speech and freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures - were violated.

They were held, then transported to detention centers before being released on bond. This being a "cause" case, maybe they will show up for court if/when it reaches that point.

And guess what people - we can pat ourselves on the back for our part. Not paying attention to what goes on around us unless it has an immediate direct impact does have consequences.

That's true in Irving, Wise County, New Haven,Ct. and all the rest of this United States.

Anonymous said...

Curious, what happens to people that enter Mexico illegally from countries to the south of Mexico. What would happen to an American that just decided one day to live permanently in another country and just not bother with the whole immigration process?

Anonymous said...

As long as we continue to elect our politicians according to has the largest "war chest" and who presents the best "face" to the camera, and re-elect lifelong incumbents we will continue to have weak leadership.

I say set term limits and realistic, equal campaign spending limits and let the popular vote decide an election. Also, I think the no.1 vote-getter= president, No. 2= VP---regardless of party affliation.

What a bunch of wishfull thinking......

Anonymous said...

But if we get rid of them all where are we gonna eat?

Mayor Lambert's gonna be on our asses for not cutting our grasses.

Isn't that important?

Anonymous said...

The problem is not the immigrants who come here trying to make a better life for their family, they work hard, send their kids to school, and obey the law. It's the ones who break the law and then receive the benefit of our justice system. It's the ones who demand public assistance because they managed to pop out a couple kids once they cross the border who are now US citizens. This is a country based on immigrants ... that's where we all come from unless you happen to be Native American or Inuit. But there has to be some assimilation, some pride in being American. And a willingness to learn the DAMN language.

Crud Bonemeal said...

To 10:50 AM
Don't ask for a pure democracy in this country unless you are willing to submit to the tyranny of the majority, which means that the large population centers will have control. Our founding fathers set up the govenment in the form of a republic to protect everyone against the whim of a majority.

Our founders intended for us to have a limited republican form of government where rights precede government and there is rule of law. Citizens, as well as government officials, are accountable to the same laws. Government intervenes in civil society only to protect its citizens against force and fraud but does not intervene in the cases of peaceable, voluntary exchange. By contrast, in a democracy, the majority rules either directly or through its elected representatives. The law is whatever the government deems it to be. Rights may be granted or taken away.

Clearly, we need government, and that means there must be collective decision-making. Alert to the dangers of majority rule, the Constitution's framers inserted several anti-majority rules. In order to amend the Constitution, it requires a two-thirds vote of both Houses, or two-thirds of state legislatures, to propose an amendment, and requires three-fourths of state legislatures for ratification. Election of the president is not done by a majority popular vote but by the Electoral College.

Part of the reason for having two houses of Congress is that it places an obstacle to majority rule. Fifty-one senators can block the wishes of 435 representatives and 49 senators. The Constitution gives the president a veto to thwart the power of 535 members of Congress. It takes two-thirds of both houses of Congress to override the president's veto.

In Federalist Paper No. 10, James Madison wrote, "Measures are too often decided, not according to the rules of justice and the rights of the minor party, but by the superior force of an interested and overbearing majority." That's another way of saying that one of the primary dangers of majority rule is that it confers an aura of legitimacy and respectability on acts that would otherwise be deemed tyrannical. Liberty and democracy are not synonymous and could actually be opposites.

"An elective despotism was not the government we fought for, but one which should not only be founded on true free principles, but in which the powers of government should be so divided and balanced among general bodies of magistracy, as that no one could transcend their legal limits without being effectually checked and restrained by the others."
-- Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia Q. XIII, 1782. The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, (Memorial Edition) Lipscomb and Bergh, editors ME 2:163

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship."
-- Professor Alexander Tytler over 200 years ago

James Madison, the father of our Constitution, said that in a pure democracy, "there is nothing to check the inducement to sacrifice the weaker party or the obnoxious individual." At the 1787 Constitutional Convention, Edmund Randolph said, " . . . that in tracing these evils to their origin every man had found it in the turbulence and follies of democracy." John Adams said, "Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There was never a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." Chief Justice John Marshall observed, "Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos."

To continue, the fact that our federal governemt has turned its back on the enforcment of laws protecting our borders is reprehensible. This is a concession by President Bush in the interest of bipartisan harmony. In other words, if you think any of those Democrats running for president are going to protect our borders, you are delusional. If you don't want us fighting the war against terrorism, and you don't want to protect our borders at home, how do you propose to protect us from multi-national terrorist attacks on our own soil? Shall we arm ourselves and form local militias? The main job of the government is to protect us (United States Citizens) from harm, period.

Anonymous said...

I would have gone to the protest and joined in with them other good Texans tellin em to send those bastard's back,... but I was busy pouring concrete and had to keep an eye on the wet backs who were a doin the job for me. Next time those bastards protest, count on me to be there supportn Amerca.

Anonymous said...

I've gotten to the point where I could care less if an illegal immigrant is here or not. We waited until there are millions residing in the US before trying to do anything about it. Which is too late and only causing major problems.
If we don't watch it, a war could break out. Remember, there are millions here. We are the minority.

Anonymous said...

Why don't these citizens of Mexico display as much anger against their own government to improve conditions in their native country?

Anonymous said...

Crud gives me Tired Head

mzchief said...
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Anonymous said...

Thank you 11:55 for reminding us of things some learned years ago. I personally don't remember Prof. Tytler but he sure knew what he was talking about didn't he.

Don't have kids in school anymore. Is it really true that we don't teach them civics any longer?

mzchief said...

There is NO such thing as an "illegal immigrant" because an IMMIGRANT is a foreign national who has gone through the LEGAL process of becoming an immigrant of the United States. Foreign nationals who have NOT gone through the LEGAL process to become an immigrant are ALIENS. People who ILLEGALY reside in the United States are ILLEGAL ALIENS. To call an illegal alien an IMMIGRANT is an offense and slap in the face to EVERY alien who went through the LEGAL process to become an IMMIGRANT.

Deporting EVERY illegal alien in the United States would DESTROY the U.S. agriculture, construction and manufacturing industries. The United States does NOT need to deport a single EMPLOYED illegal alien to establish order. What the U.S. desperately needs is a VIABLE guest worker's program. A simple method would be to permit EVERY illegal alien who has been employed for 24 months have their CURRENT employer register them and obtain a "guest worker's permit number." Should the "guest worker" change employers it is up to the ex-employer to notify the Guest Worker's Dept. of the change. The guest worker then has 60 days to have a NEW employer inform the GWD of their new employment.

As for taxing the wages of a guest worker, you bet they should be taxed. However, guest workers should NOT have the right to pay into or receive Social Security benefits. That privilege should be reserved for U.S. nationals or immigrants.

Guest workers should be required to work a minimum of 12 months prior to being able to sponsor IMMEDIATE family members to reside in the United States.

If a guest worker is convicted of a felony, they should serve their time and upon release be on the next bus to their country of origin and forever banned from being a guest worker or the guest of a guest worker in the U.S.

There should be no such thing as an "anchor baby". The majority of nations determine a child's nationality is that of its birth mother, REGARDLESS of the nation in which the child was born.

Many of these methods work EXTREMELY well in Kuwait where MORE than half of Kuwait's population consists of guest workers. Incidentally, Kuwait has VERY harsh punishments for people who violate their guest worker laws and immigration laws.

First and foremost the United States needs to take the fear, bigotry and politics out of the illegal alien issue and think about what is best for the United States.

It is NOT the business of the U.S. to concern itself with the well-being of people from other nations. Make up your minds people. Either you want to butt in and take care of the world or you want to take care of the United States. People pissing and moaning about the continued intervention of the U.S. in Iraq in an attempt to make life better for Iraqis need to zip it if you are arguing that the U.S. has a responsibility of making life better for illegal aliens.

Crud Bonemeal said...

FYI: Professor Alexander Tytler was an 18th century Scottish historian credited with writing a treatise on the fall of the Athenian Republic wherein the above quote is attibuted to him.

Those that don't learn and know history are doomed to repeat it.

Anonymous said...

Normally I'm not a big mzchief fan, but ma'am, I think you made some good points on this issue... any chance of anyone with real power (besides Barry) listening to you? lol

Anonymous said...

Bravo MzCreep! Dayum - I never thought I would type that.......excellent post.

Love and later,
Anonynothing Whatever

Anonymous said...

Ah ha, 11:58AM, so you're one of those white guys eating bananas in your truck, with the AC running, while you are typing on your wireless laptop, submitting your response to this blog, while the Mexicans are pouring concrete on one of the many brigdes/roads being worked on in Cooke and Montague County? You can't hide - I see your type every day.

Crud - please enlighten us to the website Wordbile turned you on to, that allowed you to cut and paste that great commentary/diatribe.

Anonymous said...

Wow! Brain cramp...I believe that any of the ideas put forth hear are doomed to fail without the basic enforcement of the BORDER! It is wide open! There does not have to be mass deportations. Small steps such as what the city of Irving is doing are positive steps towards getting a grip on this huge problem. However, it will be in vane if the border is left as it is. This problem will not be fixed quickly or painlessly, politically or economically.
Joe Shmoe...

mzchief said...

To 4:12...
It depends on who wins the election in 2008 as to who listens and which groups get heard. NOTHING of any REAL substance will be done nationally regarding the U.S. Mexico border PRIOR to the outcome of the elections in 2010. Yep! 2010 not 2008.

There also should be HARSH penalties for ANYONE caught violating U.S. immigration laws. Mexico should be held responsible for not properly patrolling their own border to make certain their citizens do NOT violate immigration laws. Mexico should be heavily fined for EVERY Mexican illegal alien deported to Mexico, as should any other nation whose citizen is illegally in the United States.

When there is a VIABLE guest worker's program, there will be NO reason for employers to employ undocumented illegal aliens. The laws also need to be changed to allow employers the right to fire someone for having provided inaccurate documents upon hire. Currently, employers cannot ask a prospective employee if they are "legal." Currently, all an employer can do when notified by the U.S. Social Security Administration that an employee's name and social security number do not jive is advise the employee to contact the U.S. Social Security Administration.

As far as there being an effective barrier to keep out illegal aliens, you can bet your last dime that Mexico will fight ANY type of barrier with EVERY ounce of economic clout Mexico can muster. Dollars sent to Mexico by illegal aliens is second only to oil revenues as a means of foreign income for Mexico. Dollars sent to Mexico by illegal aliens beats out tourism in Mexico as a source of foreign revenue.

Crud Bonemeal said...

To 5:19:
You are clever indeed. However, I need no help from WordKyle. I have my own sources of information: some from within and some from without. These materials can be obtained from many places, I suspect. Regardless of how you see me, understand that the government does not function as originally intended by the Framers of the Constitution. It has gotten too big. It has too much influence on our lives. They take your money by coercion and give it to other people not involved with our protection or the running of the government. When they didn't want to raise taxes, they raided the social security fund. That fund is money forcibly taken from you with a specific end purpose, but it is being siphoned off in many other directions. We need leaders who have the guts to really shrink the government and give us back what is ours: our liberty, our property, and our rights.

Anonymous said...

YEAH...What he said!!! You go CRUD!

mzchief said...

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jive = jibe

House of R & R said...

11:53 says...."It's the ones who break the law and then receive the benefit of our justice system. It's the ones who demand public assistance because they managed to pop out a couple kids once they.......

It's pathetic but, we have alot of American citizens who fit that part too.

Denney Crane said...

Not withstanding the 8:08 AM comment, this blog topic has the absolute best comments I have ever read on this website.

And to you 808, please, allow us to take up a collection to move your city ass away from here...maybe Canada would be more suitable...