8.17.2011

Random Wednesday Morning Thoughts



  • The Arlington City Council created (a more accurate word than "approved") an ordinance banning texting (but not talking) on a cellphone while driving. Listen, just because you are elected to a rule/ordinance/law making authority doesn't mean you have to act.
  • Based upon Rick Perry's initial comments (questioning whether the President loves America; calling the Federal Reserve Chairman's actions almost "treasonous"), he needs to learn he's not in Texas anymore. (But the President was pretty funny when he said we should "cut him some slack" since Perry "hasn't been at this very long.")
  • Wise County teachers being trained yesterday saw some over-the-top child abuse photos?
  • I suppose its the heat, but I don't think I've ever had to dodge the remnants of so many blown tires on the highways.
  • Michelle Bachman urged the crowd yesterday, on the anniversary of Elvis' death, to wish him Happy Birthday. I don't fault her for the screw-up. I do fault her for any reference to Elvis.
  • I don't eat hamburgers very often, but the the thick patty kind drive me nuts. Give me a skinny one -- like Sonic's.
  • "Creepy Game Show Hosts Likes To Kiss Young Girls On TV."  And we thought Richard Dawson used to be bad on Family Feud. Oh, my.
  • How have the Ecclestone Sisters not replaced the Kardashians, Paris Hilton, and every other fake celeb? How have I not heard of the Ecclestone Sisters? "Hey, now." 
  • The Stray Dog is still with us. The only problem is that he starts barking at night until he is happily placed in the utility room. 
  • Sports: (1) I might have to rethink my Rangers prediction. The lead over Angels is now at 6 games. (2) The Evil Empire has a big quarterback problem. (3) The Cowboys defense is going to be horrible this year. (4) I'm not sure what is going down at "The U", but that school is about to be killed. (5) Jim Thome hit his 600th home run this week. I saw him hit a home run in my only trip to Yankee Stadium in the mid 1990s. 
  • An 11 year old from Bridgeport is listed in the Update's Obituaries. 
  • Anyone remember when the Update would list those who were admitted to and released from the Decatur Hospital?  Talk about Gossip Central. 
  • With the goofy electoral college (no need for any presidential signs in Texas, for example), the next election for the White House  is probably down to about 10 important states. Anyone know an objective website that identifies them? Edit: Thanks, commentor. Great breakdown is here.


144 comments:

Anonymous said...

Swing States:

The big five 2012 states: Florida, Ohio, Virginia, Wisconsin and Colorado.

States like Nevada, Pennsylvania, Minnesota and Iowa fall in line soon after.

Source: realclearpolitics.com

Anonymous said...

Understand BISD and DISD teachers whinned to their supts and were excused from afternoon session...the session the delt with bullying.

Of course bullying doesn't exist in these two districts.

If, and I repeat if, this program was too graphic, wonder who brought it to town, who prescreened it, who paid for it?

A good many DISD teacher couldn't have been offended by it as they had their heads buried in their school-provided laptops.

Kudos to those of us who stayed the course. Our kids will be he better for it.

Anonymous said...

Rubber scraps from blown tires everywhere. Sign of the heat & bad roads. Maybe the Guv should have us praying for tires.

My Other Brother Darryl

Anonymous said...

Local businesses donated monies to make the failed inservice of county school employees possible. There needs to be an explanation as to who spearheaded this and why the program was not reviewed prior to spending funds for something so apparently negative. Someone should be held responsible and their name made public information. Is this how carelessly tax money is spent by our local school districts? Doesn't do much to boost morale and get the school year off to a positive beginning. With our lack of success educating our students we need to do much better! Who is thinking of our kids?

Anonymous said...

My wife is a teacher. An she was not happy when she got home. She said alot of teachers just got up and left.

BagOfNothing.com said...

Oddly enough, I saw Thome hit a home run in my only trip to Yankee Stadium, but it was in the late 90's.

Anonymous said...

Thought and prayers go out to the Garrett family.

Anonymous said...

BG.....All your sports predictions for local sports teams pretty well end up the same.... Even though you rarely admit it like in this case.

Might want to have a little confidence and predict success at some point.

Anonymous said...

Today's pic.....start over

el chupacabra said...

I couldn't even finish watching the game show host clip.

Creeper.

Michelle Bachmann- good grief.

I'm glad I gave no idea who the Ecclestone sisters are.

The responses in early polls regarding the GOP hopefuls are intriguing. Perry has a pretty big lead and undecided voters are at 16% I think this race could be more interesting than I thought. If some of the nutballs will bow out gracefully the country may have a chance.

wordkyle said...

Did Perry question whether Obama loved America? Or did a reporter ask Perry that question? (Hint: It's not Perry's responsibility to answer for how Obama "feels" about anything.)

That "goofy" electoral college makes it where we discuss ten battleground states rather than the ten most populated battleground cities. Besides giving states a role in the election of President, it forces Democrats to spread their cheating around.

Anonymous said...

Rick Perry's mouth is doing him in, and if Carl Rove doesn't like him......he's history.

HURRAY!

Anonymous said...

OK somebody PULLLEEEZZZ explain this to me.

Teachers had child abuse training and bitched.

Teachers also had bullying training and bitched.

Am I crazy or do teachers spend hours a day with children and need training in both of these areas?

Anonymous said...

Let Rick Perry be Rick Perry.

The Secret Police said...

8:50 Please tell me you are not a teacher.

Barry, Perry was not the one to question Obama's love for the country. It was the reporter. And if Perry's "rhetoric" bothers you, you shouldn't be posting things like "that school is about to be killed." That's some pretty inflamatory language right there buddy.

Triple Fake... said...

Yep, those Ecclestone gals have some really nice...tweets
No doubt we'll be seeing a "reality" program from them in the near future. Well, I won't be seeing it. I don't understand why people are willing to watch other people do boring stuff on TV. I prefer to watch people acting like they're doing stuff
Why hasn't the reality craze made it to HBO? Seems like a perfect pairing.

Now, about today's RT pic chick. Why does one of her geographical features appear to be uh, kinda rectangular? I mean, it's got a straight line and the other (supposedly matching one) is roundy

Anonymous said...

That is no longer a stray dog-he's found a home. Sucker

Anonymous said...

Best burgers, hands down: Rock City in Bridgeport.

Barry, Tune in to The Diane Rehm Show on NPR (90.1) @ 10am this morning (or stream in WAMU from Washington, DC.
Subject:
For most of us, bringing home a new puppy is exciting. Everything’s new and yet to be learned. But adopting an older dog can be just as fulfilling. And there can be advantages to a more mature dog-- fewer accidents, less chewing, and probably a better night’s sleep. But that doesn’t mean older dogs are without their challenges. They bring a history with them and sometimes bad habits. Animal behaviorist Patricia McConnell says those things can be tamed. Her new guidebook, “Love Has No Age Limit” walks owners through the process of adopting, training and bonding with an older dog.

Anonymous said...

What? No negative comments toward the demos? Maybe used them all up on the reps. Sheesh

Anonymous said...

8:50 - How big is that chip on your shoulder?

Anonymous said...

I think today's pic girl's balloons flattened out a lot.
Boob job gone terribly bad!

Anonymous said...

I believe Rick Perry loves America as for Obamma if he does he has a funny way of showing it he is destroying it!!!

Anonymous said...

Electoral College is not 'goofy" unless you know better than the founding fathers?

Anonymous said...

Does this mean that we shouldn't skip Obammy any slack for all the stupid stuff he says daily because he has been at this a long time?

Anonymous said...

Hey, it's hot outside, even at night. You would settle for the utility room too. You go Skyler, it is your job to get inside the house. Thanks Barry for taking care of him.

Anonymous said...

I agree with you Barry, I prefer the skinny hamburger patties too. Less chance of getting an undercooked piece of meat.
It cuts down on red meat consumption.

Anonymous said...

you know, i can tolerate just about anything i read on this blog. From inappropriate racial comments, to goofy crap spouted by Miz to left wing jackwagon ramblings, but the one thing i will not stand by quietly and witness is a backhanded slap @ the one and only KING OF ROCK AND ROLL. I realize Barry, that your own leanings make you much more of a supporter of the king of pop, but for Hound Dog's sake, lay off of the Blue Suede Shoes. Thank ya, thank ya very much.

Anonymous said...

"Based upon Rick Perry's initial comments (questioning whether the President loves America; calling the Federal Reserve Chairman's actions almost "treasonous"), he needs to learn he's not in Texas anymore. (But the President was pretty funny when he said we should "cut him some slack" since Perry "hasn't been at this very long.")'

Maybe we should cut Obama some slack too....after all, this business of actually running something (whether it be a country, a tiny tiny business, or, well, ANYTHING for that matter, is something he hasn't been at very long either).

Anonymous said...

Don't remember that game show of the guy kissing the little girls.
In those days, people's minds were not in the gutter and there were not so many perverts. Remember, Art Linkletter? He loved to talk to little kids. We never thought of him as a pervert. Now we would.
That was the 50's and 60's. Many things have changed.

Anonymous said...

HEPPA laws stop the releasing of patient info.
It was interesting gossip. Now we have fb. It is surprising what people will say on their page sometimes.

Anonymous said...

Rock City in Bridgeport - you need to go see your banker first and get a loan. A little pricey.

Anonymous said...

From what I can tell, there is no quarterback problem at Texas. No one has been officially named as the starting quartberback and one of the four has consistently impressed coaches and critics alike since last March. I think the coaches have a strategic reason for not naming him just yet.

P.S. There is nothing evil about the school. Although, at times during my student years, I felt that certain aspects of the school were evil.

Anonymous said...

Teachers need to quit bitching and get back to sweet Grex w/ the pupils

Anonymous said...

The pictures at the workshop were disturbing - you were warned and had the opportunity to leave or you could have chosen not to watch. It was a reminder to all teachers that it happens right in your classrooms and you may be the only one that can keep it from happening. What kind of administrators would tell their teachers to leave?? What will they tell those teachers when it happens to a student in their class?

Mr. Mike Honcho said...

LOL, if you can't afford a Rock City Burger then you might skip the whole "eating out" think.

They aren't McDonalds.

Re: the videos county teachers had to watch... I understand the blog is the equivalent of middle school. Its full of bitching and griping and bathroom humor and talks about hot chicks. And I understand a bunch of people love to bag on teachers because of the "cushy" job they have, because they grip to much, blah blah blah.

1.) Teachers can gripe about their jobs like anyone else. Its a real job too.

2.) From what I know, the presentation was over the top. They get that they have to be vigilent about abuse. They didn't need THAT presentation to help with that.

3.) I work in the private sector. We could not show those kind of videos here at work. HR would string us up.

Anonymous said...

Rock City Burgers are terrible and way overpriced.

Anonymous said...

I love Rick Perry. I'm a democrat voting for Obama. Perry will put us over the top. The only thing better would be a Perry/Palin ticket. So, Perry, keep talkin'.

Anonymous said...

Were the supts there watching the presentation? How much did the presentation cost? Would you allow students to walk out of a class?

But most of all WHO was responsible for bringing the program to the staff? Did they NOT screen the program?

Brewcrew said...

I think some of you guys griping didn't understand everything that was shown in the bullying class yesterday. It sounds like the wrong way to send the right message. From what I heard there were videos of toddlers being beaten and pictures of anuses (sp?) ripped apart from rape. This was meant for shock value, not education.

Anonymous said...

9:16,
Yeah, Rock City has a good burger...if you don't mind paying $12 scratch that, over paying...

Anonymous said...

I have family that attended the meeting yesterday. Pictures of kids in the act of being abused is not great to look at under any conditions. Not to mention the presentation seemed to fast forward through the portion most relevant to the teachers which is how to identify signs of these actions occuring at home.

Anonymous said...

I'm a Conservative and a GOP voter for sure in this next election, no matter who is running on the GOP ticket against Obammy. If we don't get him out of office, he and his cronies will destroy private enterprise in this country as we've known it. That being said, I don't particularially like Perry, but the comments he made were right on the money and are just what many of us are thinking.

Anonymous said...

My favorite "angry teacher" comment from yesterday came at 4:09:

"And if you can't see what was wrong with it, then your [sic] F*ing stupid."

It's "you're," Einstein. You might want to brush up on grammar and contractions before you begin stamping the stupid label on others. If you are a teacher, God help us.

Anonymous said...

Rhome is the leader in bull$hit ordinances!

Anonymous said...

9:15 - you're right. And everytime he is himself, he steps in it all the way up to his ears.

Whee!

Upstairs said...

About "killed"

When the sanction the "U" is facing is called "the death penalty" then "killed" is probably the right word.

I sat through the Cotton Bowl when UT played the "U" - probably the late 1980s. Raining, miserable. UT lost awfully.

Karma to the "U"

Upstairs said...

Correction - Cotton Bowl 1991.

Anonymous said...

Happy Deathday Elvis!

Anonymous said...

Perry loves America so much he wants to secede.

Looks like Wordkyle's understanding of politics is worse than his understanding of Shakespeare. And brother, that's bad.

Rage

Anonymous said...

9:43 are the burgers any good for the money?? I have also heard they are higher than a cats ass.

Its Obamas fault..

Anonymous said...

The poor excuse for a president is indeed funny, but not for that asinine comment.

Remote Controller said...

I am still voting for Ron Paul, even if I am the only one.

Anonymous said...

I thought everybody understood Obama hates America. Isn't that why he wants to destroy her and start all over?

Anonymous said...

Ha! He said,"swing".

Anonymous said...

11:49 - they are even higher than giraffe p*ssy

The Secret Police said...

10:45 says "I love Rick Perry. I'm a democrat voting for Obama. Perry will put us over the top. The only thing better would be a Perry/Palin ticket. So, Perry, keep talkin'."

So you like being on bottom huh? Do you suddenly go deaf when Omama's talkin'? Or are you one of the super dumb that I was talking about yesterday? Just wondering...
You are right though, Perry/Palin would be better. Schmuck.


Rock City burgers are pretty good.

BTW, remnant of blown tires on the highway are called "gators".

Anonymous said...

Carl Perkins sang Blue Suede Shoes. Why does everyone want to credit Elvis?

Anonymous said...

HURD'S Burger, best ever

Vocabulary Man said...

"BTW, remnant of blown tires on the highway are called "gators". [sic]"

Coverings from the top of the shoe to the knee are called "gaiters."

People who take tickets at sporting events are sometimes called "gaters."

The special spuds that Rick Perry's personal chef serves him are called . . . ."

Anonymous said...

Same reason they probably credit L.A. Freeway to Townes Van Zandt, 12:42.

Rage

Anonymous said...

What do you think the iq of the staff at rock city is?

Anonymous said...

Rock City Burgers may be ok but the live music sucks. worse than today's pic.

Anonymous said...

Carl Perkins wrote blue suede shoes. Both worked for Sun Records and both recorded it. Elvis' recording reached number one, Carl's didn't do that well...so that's why Elvis gets the credit..

Anonymous said...

Mr. Secret Police,
10:45 here.
I didn't mean to give you a stroke.
You need to take a deep breath and maybe a nap. Your mommy can give you some cookies and milk when you get home from school.

Anonymous said...

rock city burgers are way too expensive, I can feed my family of 4 sirloin steak and baked potatoes for the cost of one of their burgers, and they aren't very good either.

Anonymous said...

Owebama is the real king..dumbass

Anonymous said...

1:48, That's cause Forrest Gump didn't show perkins how to dance.

Rage

Triple Fake... said...

12:42 -
Everyone wants to credit Elvis because he did sing that song, - in 1956. Carl Perkins was the one who wrote it
There are plenty of examples of singers getting more credit for a song that was written and originally recorded by someone else:
(You Make Me Feel Like a) Natural Woman - Aretha (Carole King)
I Will Always Love You - Whitney (Dolly Parton)
All Along the Watchtower - Hendrix (Bob Dylan)

Rock City makes a good burger (especially with chili), and yeah, it costs more than a BicMac, or an entire happy meal. Occasionally, I want a Rock City burger and I pay what they charge, because I can afford it. If I had to eat there every day, that might be a different story

10:41 -
if you think their burgers are terrible, please enlighten us on your definition of a good burger?

The Secret Police said...

Critter burgers are the absolute best ever. It's a mixture of venison, rabbit, and 1 other critter like a squirrell or dove or quail, etc.

Anonymous said...

the full story
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Suede_Shoes

The Secret Police said...

I love cookies and milk!
Whole milk of course. And Mom makes an awesome cookie. You should try 'em.

Anonymous said...

At Rock City you can hav a burger on a jalapena bun with fries and a big drink for about 8 bucks.
The fries are hand cut and is about 4 times the size of a fast food order of fries. Well worth the money.
1:54 where can I get sirloin steak and baked potatoes for a family of 4 for 4 bucks???

Anonymous said...

2:18

I agree. If he is complaining about the burgers, I would not like to hear his comment on a 50-cent steak.

Big Ed

Mr. Mike Honcho said...

Cracking up at all the Rock City Burger comments. It DOES NOT cost that much to eat there.
Bingo on the Jalapeno Bun. With grilled onions. Fries that can feed two and all the refills you want for $8.

When my family goes there we each get a burger, split fries between two and enjoy. You will pay more for DQ and a little less at Sonic. And the burgers are much worse.

(Of course, I have to remember this is a county where culinary heaven is considered Casa Torres. *rolls eyes*)

Anonymous said...

The best place to eat a burger is 1 stop.....bzzzzzz! Dang lie detector! Stevens St. makes a decent burger.

Anonymous said...

2:18

I don't know where u came up with $8???
Closer to $10+ with the jalapeƱo bun fries and drink!!
And I think the French fries are hand cut in some factory somewhere

Anonymous said...

As a former teacher, we had plenty of education about child abuse and bullying. We were taught how to deal with it, but we did not actually have to see it to know it. The people I talked to that saw it were visibly disturbed and felt it wasn't a good way to begin the year on a positive note.
BTW, most of the bullies I saw were the parents, fighting for their kids, making sure their kids were always treated with kid gloves.
Before some of you start in on teachers, volunteer at a school and see for yourself exactly what goes on. You'll be surprised at the excellent job most do under difficult circumstances.

Anonymous said...

Sounds good, give me her address and let her know I'm coming for cookies.

Anonymous said...

diamond food store bridgeport, top sirloin $2.98 per lb, big idaho potatoes .59 lb.

Anonymous said...

and their meat is greasey..yuck!

The Secret Police said...

She is a burger cook at the One Stop 3:16. Sometimes she bakes cookies there too. I'll let her know your coming. LOL

Candi Main said...

If you teachers can't handle watching a video of a child being abused or pictures of their abused genitals, THEN GO OUTSIDE. I know it is disturbing but DON'T just skip half the training and don't blame it on the prinipal telling you to skip it. If his dumb a** told you to jump off a bridge, would you do it? Some of you teachers live in such a glass box and have no idea what children sometimes endure, I hope it gives you nightmares and makes you wakeup and see the horrible signs of child abuse!!!! You probably have/will have had abused kids in your class. It pisses me off that you didn't wait to hear what he had to teach on child bullying!!! I hope you are embarressed and ashamed bc you acted like a a little kid instead of an adult!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

My Decatur "teacher" friend said it was horrible to watch and graphic. Well if your school district isn't smart enough to check the outline and information a class is going to teach, then maybe my kids shouldn't go there. And what makes these teachers so perfect that they can't sit and listen to someone talk about non-perfect things that happen in life!

Anonymous said...

This is what I got when clicking on the story about the kissing creep:

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A team of highly trained monkeys has been dispatched to deal with this situation.

If you see them, show them this information:

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Anonymous said...

Before some of you start in on teachers, volunteer at a school and see for yourself exactly what goes on.

Had to laught out loud on this.

I was a kid in school once. I promise you the kids see more than any adult.

Psssttt.....kids aren't going to let the grown-ups see what's really going on.

I would have hoped you would know this but from your post you do not. WOW

Anonymous said...

we went to rock city a few weeks back and the "music" was so horrible we could'nt get out of there fast enough and the burgers were not worth what we had to pay. 3 of us and our bill was over 30 dollars for burgers, fries. i know we won't ever go back.

Anonymous said...

Maybe it's just me....alone...in my man cave....separated from society by multiple layers of plywood and....distance....but....I think today's RMT girl pic was pretty dang hot.

Double Fake Ted Kaczynski

Anonymous said...

Insulting perfectly good beef is too graphic for me to stomach. Rock City, Herds, DQ, Sonic, etc, just keep that bovine flesh between 2 slices of carbs coming at any price!

Anonymous said...

was told the little boy accidently shot himself in the head with a gun, very sad for the family. Keep them in your prayers.

Anonymous said...

Is it just me or is there something wrong with the morning thoughts chicks boobs?? Her right one is long. I think she has a torpedo in her shirt!

Anonymous said...

My spouse and I ate at Rock City this week. The bill was $16. for us together. The home made potato chips are wonderful and enough for the 2 of us. You cheap grippers ever drive out of town (DFW area) for hamburgers? More expensive food,drink plus a tip. Oh and the price of driving there and back. Quit your gripping and go to Sonic! They serve $1.30 burgers on Tuesday nights. Just load up suckers! I'll stick with Rock City.
BTW-- certain nights are "open mike nights". I'll be waiting to hear you play.

Anonymous said...

I thought that was a picture of Michael Jackson.

Anonymous said...

While everyone it fighting on here about politics, there are hundreds of kids in Bridgeport mourning the death of their friend,their enemy, and their family member. R.I.P Grayson Conner Garrett. We all miss and love you so much.

Please, please, please keep the Garret family in your prayers. <3

Mr. Mike Honcho said...

Stop Bullying everyone on the blog 3:53pm

Anonymous said...

I was at the training from 8:30-4:30. My Inservice Schedule indicated this was "Bullying Prevention" presented by Wise Hope Crisis Center. The presenter is not employed by the center but an outside contractor. No information was given as to how much he was paid or if the material was previewed by any district employees. The morning consisted of Child Abuse: graphic video of child being beaten in crib (I did not watch but heard the audio of the most heart wrenching cries from the infant), several photos of childrens' naked backsides to show results of beatings, photo of abused anus with information regarding a 19 month old who was disemboweled by a 14 year old raping the child anally, photo of swollen and blackened testicles due to blunt force trauma from a pointed toe boot. The Child Abuse portion lasted approx 2 hours. Next came training on sex laws: the age of consent, a video of a rape scenario, and more talk about a 9 year old with a full blown case of gonorrhea from when she was sexually abused as a 4 year old and how that could occur scientifically. Next we had 30 minutes on Bullying. Honestly, can't remember one thing he said on how we might PREVENT this from occurring. The last hour and a half was spent on a commercial for his presentation that he gets paid to take into to schools to encourage teenagers to be abstinent, and to choose adoption over abortion since he adopted his son.

I'm not sure what part of that presentation makes me a better teacher. I could have left during the video to return to other portions but to avoid all of the disturbing images, well it would have been impossible to get up and out of the pews constantly. Yes, I said pews. FBC Decatur didn't allow food or drinks to be in the sanctuary. They even forbade the selling of the man's book in the sanctuary. But their technical system/projector/screen has been violated. They will have to have a 3 day prayer meeting to cleanse the filth that was spoken and shown on the big screens.

(Barry, you don't have to post this but I wanted you to know the details from an eye-witness)

Anonymous said...

Maybe it would have been a better idea if the co-op had invited all Wise County parents to attend yesterday's teacher inservice. Aren't the parents doing most of the abusing? Speaking of bullying; heard any parent-coaches in Pee Wee sports lately at practices or games? I've also heard plenty of bullying coming from the stands or bleachers at high school & middle school parents who are yelling at kids, coaches, and refs. Gee, I think sometimes parents even yell and fight with each other at games.

Anonymous said...

I WOULDN;T KICK THE PIC OF THE DAY OUT OF THE SACK....
ROCK CITY HAS THE BEST...MAS MEAT MAKES THE PATTIES...MY BACON BURGER AND DRINK IS $8.00 FAR EXCEEDES KINCADES

Anonymous said...

437 you'll be waiting a long f'n time.

Anonymous said...

teachers don't want to deal with any abuse issues, they are too busy trying to teach all these low iq kids in wise county.

Anonymous said...

4:57 That sounds horrible and to me it borders on child porn. Way way too much info. on the subject.
I am quit sure some good buddy got paid well for this rediculous waste of time for teachers.
I don't need the graphics to understand what abuse means to children. It is the children who must be made aware that if they are being abused at home they should not be afraid to tell somebody. They teachers only need to know how to react and what to do to save the child.

TXYAYA said...

My name is Pat Slayton. I am Executive Director of Wise Hope Shelter & Crisis Center, a dual service agency who serves victims of domestic and sexual abuse. I am the person responsible for bringing this training to Wise County educators. I am truly disappointed that it was not received as planned. All school personnel are required to receive training on child abuse, bullying and sex & the law. The person we paid to make the presentation, Sgt. Bill Davis, is a nationally known and respected instructor on these subjects. If you check out his website http://takingcareofchildren.net/modules/content/index.php?id=6 you will note that most of his references are schools. The Regional 11 education center also spoke well of his presentations. He has presented this exact same presentation over a thousand times national and to thousands of Texas Educators. Not one time previously has half the audience gotten up and left because they were offended.

We had hoped to help the children of Wise County by making educators more aware of the manner in which children make an outcry when being abused. The graphic video which upset so many people was a real nanny cam video showing an 18 month old being abused. The ultimate conclusion was that the child had only one small bruise on his chest after the abuse. The point: Abuse doesn't always show on the outside.

Wise Hope has worked very hard and will continue to work very hard to make Wise County a less violent place to reside. An average of 20 felony sexual assaults to a child occur each year in Wise County. So this does happen here where you live and work. Not seeing it doesn't mean it isn't happening. All the "over the top" photos were actual case photos.

I do not apologize for trying to do something that I thought would be helpful to Wise County. I do not apologize for inviting all the school districts so that all of us could save money in this economic environment, and yes, it was unwritten by local businesses as well as our agency. I do apologize that it was not received as we had hoped.

For the person who made the comment about the sanctuary being defiled, I would suggest that there was no better place that FBC to show what can and does happen to our adolescents. Sometimes God is the only person that a victim can turn to. I appreciate the opportunity FBC gave us to use this venue and hope that all this venom will not be directed at them. I also hope it will not be directed at Wise Hope. Your outrage should be directed to those that do the abusing. Then we wouldn't have to have training such as this at all.

Anonymous said...

Giant Burger has the best bugers around. You can't beat their meat unless you are a truck stop hooker at Love's!

Anonymous said...

teachers don't give a rats ass about the children, they are there for a check. period...

Anonymous said...

6:40 you are full of CHIT. Brent Williams and Phillip Askey are 2 of the finest teachers a kid ever had, so suck on that!!

Anonymous said...

Tommorrow the Decatur School Board will hear a big old report about the schools TEA rating but they are limiting discussion about the AYP failures to a little old Superintendent Report.

Don't worry.....
We will avoid the bad and focus on the good!

Anonymous said...

6:29 - I think the point being made about the sanctuary was that you were drawing a line about drinks being allowed and the selling of a $5 book in the sanctuary because it didn't show respect to the holiness of the space but you had a graphic presentation and graphic language. It comes across as hypocritical. Regardless of the intent, leave your water bottle at the door but come inside and see disturbing video/photos? Also, you stated it was intended to make educators aware of the manner in which children make outcries. So, how do children make outcries according to Sgt. Davis's presentation? Did the video show the educators an outcry? I haven't seen one comment questioning the authenticity of the photos, what I see is the questioning of the method and was it really necessary? If bruises don't always result from abuse, what did Davis tell the educators to look for? He made it clear to leave CPS out of the loop and to go straight to law enforcement and proceeded to criticize law enforcement and the good ol' boy system for failure to respond. Yes, Sgt. Davis left the group of educators all sorts of little gems to take back into their classrooms for the upcoming school year. I would hazard to guess the delivery method of shock and awe backfired. There was a way to deliver the information to educators and to have them compliant with the law in regards to training in a way which showed respect to their professionalism and dedication to their students in the classroom.

Anonymous said...

The teacher inservice was billed as a bullying prevention workshop not a child sex abuse program! Very misleading!!

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't the children be better off if instead of watching graphic movies, they had real training how to handle the kids, physically, emotionally, and psychologically? Seeing what happens only depresses the teachers, rather than give them something positive to do. Agencies like CASA should be talking to the teachers, telling what happens to kids in foster care and how as a community we can help.
Quit ragging on the teachers. They aren't there just for a paycheck, believe me. It takes real patience to deal with the kids, not to even mention their parents--some of whom are abusers and bullies.

Anonymous said...

AMEN TXYAYA!! It is by no means your fault that these teachers believed it was "shock and awe"... unfortunately shock and awe is REALITY... and every one of those teachers that didn't return are the teachers that would turn their heads when something needed to be done! FYI 7:30pm... CASA comes into the picture AFTER a child has been removed from CPS... but what happenes before then? EDUCATE YOURSELF! And it was FBC who wouldn't allow the sale of the curriculum or food or drink in the sanctuary, not Wise Hope. Again... it's ignorance like this that proves Wise Hope is a needed agency. When it's your daughter,son, mother, sister, best friend who ends up being in one of those pictures, maybe then you will listen!

Anonymous said...

The point that seems to have been missed is that after all of the abuse there was only one small bruise. Sgt. Davis stated that if a child tells you "it hurts to play", listen and watch for difficulty in moving. Abuse doesn't always show. The afternoon dealt with teen sex, the law and bullying. I learned many things at the training even if the message was hard to watch. But then I didn't go expecting a pep rally.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe the districts spent one entire day on this subject, when there is so much more to be done. It's like they are holding teachers responsible for abuse and bullying. Of COURSE, the teachers are sympathetic to the abuse and will contact the proper authorities--they are legally responsible for doing so, but to subject to a day of horror seems useless.
Instead, let's sponsor parenting classes for parents--they are the abusers! Let's get CPS, LOCAL authoriries, CASA, churches, all involved to work here in Wise county. Let's educate the parents about what to do and not to do.

The teachers can only do so much.

Anonymous said...

Hurd burgers are the best!
D D hot is my fave.

Anonymous said...

Yes, let's get CPS, local authorities, CASA and churches all involved to work here in Wise County. Let's educate the parents about what to do and not to do.
All the agencies you mention exist because the parents don't want to be educated about what to do and not do. Each agency and more offers parenting classes. The ones that NEED to attend won't. They don't think they are bad parents. Yes, teachers can only do so much. But try getting 2 agencies involved and see if you can get any agreement. The only people suffering here are the kids.

Anonymous said...

I am a teacher. I have been taught over the years what signs to watch for in students that may be so depressed they are suicidal or may intend to cause another Columbine. Both of those scenerios would be murder. I do not need to see a graphic film of murderers committing murder or the suffering of their victims in order to understand that the damage these depressed students may cause can be horrific! I don't believe the teachers needed to see graphic beatings, aftermath of child rapes, or even hear the cries of babies who are being abused to KNOW how HORRIFIC child abuse is!
Let me touch on bullying also. PARENTS, it is YOUR JOB to protect your child(ren). If you know they are being bullied then CALL THE POLICE and file charges against the bully!! HELP US help your child! Remember that we are NOT the LAW and we are limited in what we can do. USE your own resources and protect your own child using the LAW!! If you do not call the law and file charges then DO NOT chastise educators!
Thirdly, please don't "BLOW UP" a small incident ( unexpected fight between two students who happen to lose their temper) as a bullying incident! If you truly believe your child is being bullied, then document everything that the bully does in detail. Date each incident and keep all data so that you can go to the law with proof of continual harrassment!
Lastly, remember that CPS is called when there is proof of abuse, or when a child asks for help! It is very difficult for teachers who do make that call, then CPS returns the child to the home. So please, become involved in CASA so that you might have a better understanding of the kinds of needs these kids have and YOU CAN LEND SOME HELP TO THEM!!
Stop blaming everything on teachers or schools. Take a look in the mirror and be sure you are doing everything YOU should be doing to protect your child! Come in to school personnel and ask what you can do to HELP instead of coming in to "attack" teachers for not policing every single incident that might happen in the blink of an eye!
And to the young (evidently) person who thinks teachers don't know so much --- you, dear child, would be quite surprised at just how much we do know, yet again, we are not the law and our limitations include protecting the privacy of our students. And since you think you know so much, you should be the first one to get involved in helping with the schools!

Brenda Morgan said...

Thank you Pat for holding on to your convictions and having the courage to communicate within this firestorm. It seems to me that a key point is missed in most of the comments: Training on these subjects is now required by law. Through your extensive research you obtained a nationally known speaker who came highly recommended by Regional 11 education center. Over the course of 15 years, the speaker has given this presentation many, many times and no one walked out. It is not a pleasant subject but should not be sugar coated. If only one child could be saved from the horror of abuse by information gained at a presentation such as this, it would be worth it all.

Anonymous said...

9:01
You're full of negatives, give us a positive. What will work to stop abuse?

Anonymous said...

Pat Slayton, you are full of it. Don't sit there and run on about being unrepentant for showing sexually abused children's genitalia. For showing graphic pictures of kids being harmed.

There wasn't any new and enlightening techniques provided to teachers on how to prevent or spot abuse. It was all simply shock value. Nothing more. Oh, except for the ass of an officer that was presenting. His quips were ridiculous, including..."he wasn't abused any more after this. He's dead now". If you were there you know what I mean.

Pat, when teachers walk out and school administrators have to apologize to the staff the next day, the presentation was clearly over the top. And if you can't understand that then perhaps you need to move on and find another job.


Don't know who funds your agency, but I will find out and let them know my and others feelings
On this subject.

Anonymous said...

Ms. Slayton, I would like to know why your agency felt compelled to bring a program on child abuse since I thought you served adult abuse victims? I thought that was in the area of CPS or perhaps CASA. Maybe you stepped out of your area? From what I understand, most of the abuse discussed was concerning very young children and infants, none of which are in public schools. Did you preview this material? Teachers are required to get permission and preview speakers before they come in their classrooms. There are reasons why certain groups in Wise county are not allowed in the schools. Is this a program that you would present to middle school or even high school students? As a parent, I would be outraged by it. I think all of us as concerned community members should be very, very careful where our money goes when we donate. Our teachers do an outstanding job of watching over our children. It is not their job to raise and protect them from all harm, even though I know they do the best job they can in the time alloted. Ms. Slayton, as an administrator of Wise County Domestic Violence, I would certainly hope you had researched your information before presenting it to hundreds of teachers who are already very familar with the subject presented.

To the administrators of the schools involved: Just a thought, with all the stress teachers are under currently, wouldn't it have been a good idea to bring in a highly motivational speaker who would get their year off to a good start or were you just looking for a "free" program?

TXYAYA said...

10:15 It's easy to hide behind Anyonymous on these posts. I will not do that. We as an agency did our research and acted in good faith that we were offering an acceptable program to the schools. I am not happy that it did not turn out as we had hoped. I assure you we will not be using this presenter again. It was never our intention to offend anyone, only to train. Our agency is funded by Federal and State Sexual Assault Prevention and Crime Services Grants in this area. Sgt. Davis is not only an approved but recommended presenter. Lesson learned. We will not offer such presentations in the future. I am as disappointed as anyone that there is so much negative attention to this. We will return to our daily activities of providing services to those who are victims of domestic violence and sexual assault. This was obviously not the outcome we were working toward. I think everyone can agree on that.

Anonymous said...

AMEN, 9:15....AMEN!!!
Your intelligent, compassionate, and positive statements and suggestions should END the comments to this subject with a call to rational action by EVERYONE in our county!! Kudos to you!

Anonymous said...

As a teacher who was present at that training, I am extremely disturbed by the fact that there are members of this community who would doubt the professionalism, ethics and compassion of those of us who were called to the teaching profession. I say "called" because it is truly a calling that requires a person to sacrifice of themselves and their families to do their job well and the pay is definitely NOT sizeable nor worth most of what many teachers endure on a regular basis.

With that said, the training yesterday was indeed sold as a bullying training. Not one individual that I have encountered was aware of the nature of the presentation prior to walking into that church. Yes, there are bad people in the world who do bad things, but that does not mean that each of us have to be an eye witness to those crimes, especially when required to attend the session unaware of what we might see.

The administrators who excused their staff members from the afternoon sessions are not ignorant nor insensitive to the issues being addressed. In fact, seeing my own principal walk out of that room with tears in his eyes and, no doubt, his own children in mind as we all endured the images and sounds of an 18 month old infant being brutally beaten showed me his humanity and compassion.

When what is being shown is disturbing enough to have numerous people sick, crying and angry, then we need to think about whether it is appropriate to show in the first place. What that presenter and our friend, Pat Slayton, seem to have forgotten is an educator's role in abuse situations. Educators are "good guys." We have dedicated our lives to children and each and every one of us know the horrors of abuse. But, our job is to report the abuse to someone who is trained and qualified to investigate the situation. The only reason I would ever need to see images of a child's injured genitalia is IF I was required to have a kid strip down and show me evidence of abuse, which I am NOT. That is someone else's job, and those counselors, law enforcement officials and medical professionals ARE trained to look at those things and draw conclusions. I am bound by law to report, and let those other professionals do their jobs. With that in mind, there is absolutely no reason why any educator needed to view such gratuitous violence.

Pat Slayton, you are in the business of trying to protect people and victims of these horrible crimes. Did you ever consider that some of those very educators in the audience might actually be victims of violence like this, and your decision to promote this presentation without clear communication of its content has victimized and traumatized many of them? I truly felt like a victim as I went to bed last night and had nightmares of my own baby being punched and thrown against his crib. Those are things I can never forget, and did not need to witness in order to understand the existence of such heinous acts.

What would have been more useful would have been to spend more time discussing the outward signs of abuse, telling us how to reach victims of those crimes to get them to speak out and more time clarifying the legal obligations of educators dealing with kids in these situations. Instead, we were involuntarily subjected to "shock and awe" and the shameless promotion of the presenter and his "goods," with a LITTLE bit of useful information thrown in.

I am truly thankful that my administrators cared enough about their employees to have allowed us to be excused from the possibility of more of these images and that they saw the effect that those initial experiences had on the MANY Wise County educators who ended up in tears in the lobby of that church. The decision to lead district employees in walking out of that presentation was respectable and showed true humanity and compassion for teachers as professionals in their field.

Anonymous said...

Well said, 10:15.

Anonymous said...

Decatur has been spiraling down for the last year. Lower student performance is okay as long as teachers are happy!

Anonymous said...

Well said 11:41.

Anonymous said...

9:15 I'm the young child you speak of.

Young as in my 40's.

You may think you know but you don't. Trust me o'clueless one.

Anonymous said...

Unless, you use YOUR TRUE NAME with your posts YOUR ARE AN ANON!



Example: Barry Green is the true name.

TXYAYA is not. LMAO

Anonymous said...

If the man doing the abuse presentation told teachers to call law enforcement and leave CPS out of it, perhaps he should check the law! As educators, we are BOUND BY LAW to notify CPS. That alone would make me question the validity of his presentation.

Anonymous said...

Just put in some afro turf and call it a day!

Anonymous said...

4:57 Not sure what the problem is. You chose a profession involving children.

With an increase in teachers being perverts in today's world what do you expect training agencies to do with you people?

With an increase in bullying deaths because teachers/parents are not paying attention (if they were, the bullying could have been stopped and those kids would still be alive today) what do you expect training agencies to do with you people?

And, how many kids are abused that teachers turn a blind eye on? I assure you there are many.

Anonymous said...

As a teacher in DISD there is a bullying problem and our administrators WILL NOT address it! Nor do they care to train us on how to recognize - even better PREVENT!!

TXYAYA said...

Read my original comment made at 6:29 you would know my real name. Jump to the bottom -- maybe jump to conclusions as well?

Anonymous said...

TXYAYA - sounds like you need to go back to the mortgage business (and starve)

Anonymous said...

This makes me think of the movie, A Few Good Men. Tom Cruise asked Jack Nicolson ..”I just want the truth”. To which Jack replied, “The truth? You can’t handle the Truth!” Some just can’t handle the truth and if they don’t see it they don’t have to think about it. Hang in there Pat. You now are a Public figure just like all the politicians. It’s easy to talk about someone and something you know nothing about.

Jack Daniels said...

Wise-County-Teachers-Get-Trained-On-Abuse-By-Watching-Shocking-Video a post all its own.

No kidding. This stirred up more BS that the cheerleader crap a while back.

xocheeta said...

TXYAYA -
There were negative reactions. However, you don't give up because of these people. "We will not offer such presentations in the future."
It's more important to help the victims than worry about offending people who are around children all day.
Maybe there's a better person who can present this information. I am willing to bet that a CPS supervisor would present the information for free.
Only negative people respond. The ones who thought it helped don't usually remark.

Anonymous said...

TXYAYA sorry. I missed seeing your name.

My bad.

Anonymous said...

Funny how yesterday Pat posted on Facebook to School Admins apologizing about this matter.

Then Pat's post at 6:29pm tells everyone hells no and she will not apologize and you can go jump in a lake because everyone needs to see pictures of sexual abuse to prevent it...

Then Pat comes back and begins toning down her comments again.

Whatever.

Great points 9:15pm, 10:15om, 10:40pm, 11:41pm.

Anonymous said...

To 4:06 "Had to laught out loud on this"

The quote actually read:
"Before some of you start in on teachers, volunteer at a school and see for yourself exactly what goes on. You'll be surprised at the excellent job most do under difficult circumstances"

If you would put the entire quote, you would see they were talking about seeing the good job our teachers are doing in difficult circumstances.

Anonymous said...

Pat Slayton.

You don’t learn by seeing graphic pictures in a class. The teachers do not need that either. It just makes people sic. Everyone has a threshold of what they think is offensive. And you do not need to train that way.

How about train on how to recognize behavior problems and how they act around the piers in the class rooms. Kids psychology would be better taught. The program you have presented is a disgrace to the general public. That kind of training is for law enforcement and the like professions dealing with child law and health. They are the ones that deal with that stuff in the people’s homes and hospitals. They are the ones that see the in-home videos and abuse pictures. You can’t look at genitalia in a class room! (unless you are in a supervisor position apparently in Decatur).

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CT said...

Sounds to me like this training was for the SANE RN program, rather than for educators. SANE=Sexual Assualt Nurse Examiner.
These nurses go to ER's and such to examine children and adults who have been raped, abused, etc. These images are too graphic for educators. Educators would not be in the position to see any child of any age with no clothes on. PERIOD.

Cassie said...

First, I don't think Pat ever said "hells no and she will not apologize and you can go jump in a lake because everyone needs to see pictures of sexual abuse to prevent it..."
Second, she did apologize for it being what people are calling "too graphic". Sometimes though thats what it take.
My question to those who are upset by graphic content... do you watch the crime shows? Criminal Minds perhaps? How about movies such as Friday the 13th? YOU are correct when your mind goes "thats not real". But when it's real then "how dare you show me that".
Now this doesn't count for all the teachers that walked out. Nothing is cookie cutter..
Perhaps it was disturbing to a teacher who had lived through it.
Perhaps it was disturbing to a teacher who commits it themselves. In that case let us hope that it was a wake up call to that parent.
Pat you did the best you could to get important info out there. It didn't go so well this time but please don't let that stop you from trying again.

Anonymous said...

I was at the inservice - it was inappropriate for the audience - pure and simple.

CT was on the mark. A SANE RN program would need to see these images for their job - a teacher would never need to see a child naked.

The sgt was grandstanding from the word go. His insincere "I don't know if I want to show you these pictures... (pretends to be conflicted) but I'm going to (flash pic!) was obnoxious - as was his "this child is not hurting - he is dead!

I have been to several CPS inservices and saw pictures specific TO the inservice - NONE of them showed genitalia or dead babies - NONE! That is something for a SANE RN or a Doctor - not for teachers and cafeteria workers.

This inservice was sold to the administrators as a Bully Prevention Presentation - not a bullying and "this is what a kids genitalia looks like when it is abused" program.

It was inappropriate pure and simple. Any attempt to justify it just shows how the people who were behind the workshop are completely disconnected to the audience they were trying to teach/reach.

Anonymous said...

I agree with you completely, 7:29! Inappropriate, pure and simple.