1.09.2009

He Was Obviously Competent To Stand Trial

Story (and his background is just as crazy.) I'm reminded of a line from Midnight Express which was something to the effect of, "All humans are machines. But sometimes the machines are defective." But, in this enlightened age, we just kill those machines.

33 comments:

Anonymous said...

Of course he is insane and mentally ill. Otherwise he would not have killed his family. Geeezzz, just fry him so we don't keep having our tax dollars going towards his care.

Anonymous said...

Wow what a buzz kill. Happy Friday to you.

Anonymous said...

I think you could rehabilitate this guy Barry. Give it a shot (as he is picturing you as a big hot dog and smacking his lips).

Anonymous said...

Why am I thinking of John Hurt?

It pains me.

Screw this sad shiate.

I'm just gonna focus on Johnny Depp for a little bit.

Y'all just go about your business.

Anonymous said...

But, in this enlightened age, we just kill those machines. Just not enough of them.

JimHubbell said...

I remember this case when he was arrested in Sherman. It seemed obvious at the time that this guy was crazy, not only from the crime but for plucking out his eye. I wonder where they're going to keep him now--in the pen or the nut house?

Anonymous said...

Even with having some liberal, some conservative, some libertarian leanings depending on the issue, I have NEVER understood the problem that many have with execution of the mentally handicapped. I don't care if you murdered someone because you wanted to or because the talking dog in your head told you to, you are still just as much a danger to society. The death penalty is the most appropriate and humane answer for criminals such as these (read the linked article if you haven't already). They are fundamentally flawed and need to be put down. Putting them in an institution for the rest of their lives on medication is a colossal waste of time and effort (and to what end?).

Anonymous said...

10:43 - I agree with you, but as long as we have (over the top) liberal lawyers AND preachers, it'll never happen.

Anonymous said...

When I rip one of my eyes out and eat it will someone please shoot me WITHOUT waiting for a bunch of lawyers to discuss it first.

You may call me Your Majesty, in fact, I insist. said...

They thought crazy Ron Williamson was a murderer too.

Capital punishment is barbaric and kills too many innocent people, not to mention the cost of appeal after appeal which ends up costing the tax payer more than housing and feeding them over the long haul.

Anonymous said...

Re: "putting them down" In a perfect world not a problem. In Dallas? In Wise Co?

Not quite sure I trust any government worker, any "twelve of my peers" or any DA worried about re election making these decisions.

I really don't have a problem with capital punishment when there is ir-refutible proof....even a sincere confession, but we need to be very careful......walk the extra mile before we pull the plug.

Interesting footnote: Madoff ripped of the foundation supporting the "Innocence Project"
and to date no one has stepped up to the plate to fund. They too often embarass the legal system, but how does that Bible read, "the truth will set you free?"

Anonymous said...

Just let me guess: those advocating executing the insane or overly stupid or those with limited chance for "productive" lives are the same ones opposing a woman's right to choose abortion - the right-to-life crowd. They frequently also oppose a sane but terminally sick person's right to choose self inflicted death. Is there a bit of inconsistency here?

Anonymous said...

Of course he plucked his last good eye out. He did not want to be able to see the brand new needle going into his arm right before he goes into eternal sleep.

Anonymous said...

a million meals and a dozen appeals ! to what end?

Anonymous said...

Instead of lethal injection for convicted murderers, perhaps we should allow them to parole into the homes of some of the people who so vehemently oppose the death penalty. Let those enlightened citizens walk the walk and not just talk the talk. Any takers?

Anonymous said...

10:01, you're wrong, at least in my case...I am pro-choice, and don't care one way or the other if someone wishes to end their suffering.

My intent when discussing "putting them down" was specifically about this or similar "insanity" cases and the futility of keeping people such as this alive.

Sue said...

how is death a penalty when we will all face it?

i'd rather someone sit in prison and rot for 40 years, then face their ultimate punishment than get to jet off "peacefully"...

Anonymous said...

12:45 Damn it that is an excellent ideal! I bet you there wont be one offer to take in a convicted killer amongst all those opposing the death penalty! You are brilliant 12:45 !

Anonymous said...

Your Majesty,
Ron Williamson hung out with ex-cons and future cons. He surrounded himself with trash. When you put yourself in that position you can't be surprised when you are blamed for what the the guy next to you did. I don't blame anyone for pointing fingers at him.
Let's keep the IV fluid flowing and rid our neighborhoods and ease the prison crowds of those who take other innocent lives.

Anonymous said...

Speaking of Ronnie, BG.
I'm going to "earth" the apt. where Debbie Sue Carter lost her life.....and then try to convey that info back to you.

Let me know someone has already done that for you.

Anonymous said...

Google Earth pics of the Debbie's apt. are low resolution and not worth viewing.

Anonymous said...

That guy killed his family.
How on God's green earth could a human not agree with the death penalty.

If you truly cared about life...imagine the fun that the two kids didn't have this christmas because of him. My only regret is that he won't see the men when they strap him down. Those two kids begged and pleaded for their lives but had no choice but to watch the knife plunge deep into their chests.

Killed kids and pulled his eyes out so he can't see.....what a chicken sh*t!!

M-M said...

Double auto-enucleation! Cool

Anonymous said...

Is murder wrong? If it is, then it is wrong when the state murders someone.
How many innocent men have been release in Dallas when DNA testing was done. 9:15 is right. I do not trust the state.

I watched "Midnight Express" when it came out in 1978(?) and it freaked me out.

Anonymous said...

Let's add to the list of those needing to be put down: Charlie Myers, 22, of Columbus, Ohio...confessed to killing a 29 year old mother in front of her 4 year old boy.

He did it. There is evidence. AND he confessed. Are you going to give me crap about not trusting the state on this one?!?!

I understand the whole problem with convictions of the wrong persons, especially the ones where DNA has since cleared them (BTW, what the hell is up with Dallas, anyway?). Then let's only dispose of the ones like this one and the eyeball muncher, where there is no question of guilt and there is a confession.

Or...if you don't want the gov't to kill them, let's just put them in regular prison so they can get Dahmer'd, or perp walk them so they can get Ruby'd.

chupacabra said...

The death penalty would be awesome if: 1)It served as a deterrent or even a punishment,2)never killed innocent people,3)made victims families whole again in any way-(and in fact didn't most often cause them increased anguish),4) wasn't so predictably used against the poor and blacks and just generally those poorly represented, 5)wasn't so often supported by religious peoples misunderstanding of the Bible- (it says the government has the right to, not that it has to or even should kill its citizens.), 6)if it was cost effecient: investigations of capital crimes alone costs threes times as much and trials cost 15-20 times as others.

So yeah, it's awesome we have a government that can and does kill so many of us. It would be even more awesome if it were rational, reasonable, necessary and fair in all cases.

You may call me Your Majesty. In fact, I insist. said...

6:14 I understand why Ronnie was a suspect. I understand how a person can be judged by the company they keep. I also understand the evidence in his case was contrived by a DA who was out to make a name for himself when other evidence pointing to the real perpetrator was ignored.

Anonymous said...

9:47, it's not the same. Every time someone kills another person is not defined as murder. If someone busts into your house tonight to kill you and you kill them first, that's not murder. A soldier defending his country from an invading force is not murder. If a car blows a tire and hits another car and kills that person it's not murder. A person that is murdered is a victim of murder. How is a convicted murderer that is put to death a victim of murder? They are responsible for their own execution. They basically murdered themselves. In other words, when someone murders a family and gets caught and gets the death penalty...its more like suicide than being "murdered by the people of Texas".

Anonymous said...

Let me suggest that those objecting to the death penalty are NOT advocating returning these perps to society. If there is clear evidence of their crime, leave them in jail or a mental institution - for a long time or for life. Some would argue that would be a more severe penalty than execution. At least it leaves the final judgment to God or nature.

Anonymous said...

Someone tell me where the bible says to "obey the laws of the land".

Our law here in Texas, gives the prosecutor the option to seek the death penalty if a human premeditates to take another human life.

Lets talk about choices for a second. Ask yourself this....did the murder victim have a choice to live or die........no.

Did the one who committed the murder and was sntenced to death have a choice......of course. They made the decision to die when made the decision to kill another human.

So, before you run down the law... and.... jurors.... and prosecutors just remember that the murderer made the decision to end his life....while his victims didn't.

Anonymous said...

Somebody inform me. Do folks still have invoke God's name in a court of law when taking an oath before testifying, etc.?

If so, why is that and would it make any real difference in the life of a non believer?

Casual Observer said...

BIG TIRED HEAD!!!!

abbienormyl said...

If you had a choice, which body part would you eat?