10:40 - I worry about that guy with the horse drawn carriage too. Hwy. 2123 is so dangerous. I guess the man is trying to save money by not buying gasoline, but the risk may not be worth it. An 18 wheeler could not stop quick enough to keep from hitting this guy.
I heard it was really bad. Woman driving dies, man in his middle age care flighted and passengers in the back. Not sure if kids or adults or their condition. Very sad.
If we were in the Metroplex it would be at Loop 12 at Walton Walker. I have no idea where that even is but, when I was working over there it seemed like every morning it was,"Police are working a fatality accident at ..."
Truck driver after the wreck as he's climbing out of the cab talking on his cell phone:
"Hey honey, let me call you back after I finish my Whataburger and figure out what I just ran over. Oh wait. It was just a couple of people. No big deal. So what time can you meet me tonight? The wife is out of town. Damn this burger is good. Hey, what are all these police cars doing here? I hope they clear this up soon. I gotta get these rocks where they're a-goin'."
This is the most deadly intersection in Wise County. The stopping distance of a loaded truck traveling at a speed limit of 50 mph on a 2.9% downhill grade is about 1050 feet if the road is straight. This elevated road is curved, so the stopping distance increases beyond the 1050 feet. When southeast bound trucks top the crest of the elevated road the intersection comes into view and the distance to the intersection is less than their stopping distance. This is the reason for the many wrecks and deaths at this location. When you drive in the mountains, you better slow down. TXDOT's Bill Nelson is incompetent and deaths will continue to occur at this location until he is forced to reduce the speed limit.
I don't think that you (6:01) can call the high school boy who died at this location May 7 of last year "elderly". You truck drivers gain about 5 seconds on your trip time by speeding down that hill and killing folks. Is five seconds worth a life now and then?
Was it said this truck driver was speeding? Its not just truck drivers who speed as they leave Bridgeport. I am guilty of it almost everytime I go down 114. Why because that is where the road starts to open up and there arent many businesses. We should all slow down not just the truck drivers.
There was a road that ran behind the golf course at one time that came into Bridgeport. Maybe it is time to open it up and get some 2123 traffic off of 114. It would be nice for the teen drivers and others wanting to come into Bridgeport. Just a thought!
Going the speed limit and not being able to stop within your sight distance is speeding. Drivers who passed their CDL tests know that they cannot stop going 50 mph down a 3% grade on this curved road. The difference between a sedan and a large semi truck is the stopping distance. In your car or pickup you can stop and avoid being involved in an accident with room to spare.
Making a turn onto SH 114 from FM 2123, a person not experienced in driving in hilly terrain might assume that they can easily complete their turn before the large truck travels the 1,000 feet down the hill. Most don't understand that these trucks cannot stop within this 1,000 feet. TXDOT's Bill Nelson should have studied this in obtaining his civil engineering degree. Every time I hear of another death at this interesection I wonder if he has ever though that there is a traffic engineering problem at this location, namely the speed limit. The road does not "open up" here. Please go to NCTCOG's dfwmaps.com, zoom in to this section of SH 114 and then click on "aerial photo." Look at the number of driveways and heavy industrial uses between the intersection and the Trinity River bridge. I have never seen a 60 mph speed limit in such a heavily built up industrial park.
Here's another point... what about that new weigh station that isn't used very often. I have only seen 1 Highway Patrol unit there and don't remember seeing any of those trucks slowing down as they fly by it... just a thought. Maybe it ought to be a Mandatory Stopping point for these trucks that just might slow em down enough before ever getting to FM 2123.
2123 is a total nightmare from about 7:45 - 8:00 a. m. during school days. Try it sometime and get a road rage idiot behind you. It happened to me. A lady in a little green car almost shoved me ONTO 114 one morning with heavy traffic both ways - I needed to turn left, but turned right and stopped to let the speed freak have the road.
Something needs to be done about that intersection. It is insane.
We should all write letters to Bill Nelson complaining. Problem is, doubt if he knows how to read.
The last time I was driving in an area with a 3% downhill grade, just prior to a valley, the speed limit did not increase until I got down the hill and in the flat terrain of the valley. Safer that way. Lowers the death rate. Brakes last longer.
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its definately true, 18 wheeler versus a car
Are the people at the WCM off today or something??
Im suprised to hear its an 18 wheeler and a CAR and not the crazy man who rides his horse drawn carriage down the highway and through town EVERYDAY
10:40 - I worry about that guy with the horse drawn carriage too. Hwy. 2123 is so dangerous. I guess the man is trying to save money by not buying gasoline, but the risk may not be worth it. An 18 wheeler could not stop quick enough to keep from hitting this guy.
I heard it was really bad. Woman driving dies, man in his middle age care flighted and passengers in the back. Not sure if kids or adults or their condition. Very sad.
check www.wcmessenger.com
i saw it on update at 10:17, so maybe you should get your facts right
Maybe you shouldn't be such a douche, 11:16.
I wonder where tomorrow's fatal traffic accident will be???
i say 380 east of decatur
11:16
I dont know what update you are reading but it was not on messenger UPDATE at 10:17 more like 11:17
Very sad, it is in the update now, and I hope there is not another fatal accident tomorrow.
If we were in the Metroplex it would be at Loop 12 at Walton Walker. I have no idea where that even is but, when I was working over there it seemed like every morning it was,"Police are working a fatality accident at ..."
If it was in the Metroplex it could be on Grauyler
I'm just sayin
It's like all crimes happen at "Gunpoint," wherever that is.
The Update has posted the names of the victims.
Truck driver after the wreck as he's climbing out of the cab talking on his cell phone:
"Hey honey, let me call you back after I finish my Whataburger and figure out what I just ran over. Oh wait. It was just a couple of people. No big deal. So what time can you meet me tonight? The wife is out of town. Damn this burger is good. Hey, what are all these police cars doing here? I hope they clear this up soon. I gotta get these rocks where they're a-goin'."
Damn shame.
This is the most deadly intersection in Wise County. The stopping distance of a loaded truck traveling at a speed limit of 50 mph on a 2.9% downhill grade is about 1050 feet if the road is straight. This elevated road is curved, so the stopping distance increases beyond the 1050 feet. When southeast bound trucks top the crest of the elevated road the intersection comes into view and the distance to the intersection is less than their stopping distance. This is the reason for the many wrecks and deaths at this location. When you drive in the mountains, you better slow down. TXDOT's Bill Nelson is incompetent and deaths will continue to occur at this location until he is forced to reduce the speed limit.
U have rocks for a comment, Elderly folk drives in front of another vehicle--boom they mate each other jar dic*.
anon 12:42
Loop 12 IS Walton Walker boulevard. Just like 635 LBJ or 183 Airport Freeway.
Dallas is a great place to visit, you should check it out.
6:01 must drive a rock hauler. In fact he must have typed that post while he was driving with his knee, talking on the phone, etc. etc.
Very weak, 6:01. You can do better than that.
I don't think that you (6:01) can call the high school boy who died at this location May 7 of last year "elderly". You truck drivers gain about 5 seconds on your trip time by speeding down that hill and killing folks. Is five seconds worth a life now and then?
Was it said this truck driver was speeding? Its not just truck drivers who speed as they leave Bridgeport. I am guilty of it almost everytime I go down 114. Why because that is where the road starts to open up and there arent many businesses. We should all slow down not just the truck drivers.
There was a road that ran behind the golf course at one time that came into Bridgeport. Maybe it is time to open it up and get some 2123 traffic off of 114. It would be nice for the teen drivers and others wanting to come into Bridgeport. Just a thought!
Going the speed limit and not being able to stop within your sight distance is speeding. Drivers who passed their CDL tests know that they cannot stop going 50 mph down a 3% grade on this curved road. The difference between a sedan and a large semi truck is the stopping distance. In your car or pickup you can stop and avoid being involved in an accident with room to spare.
Making a turn onto SH 114 from FM 2123, a person not experienced in driving in hilly terrain might assume that they can easily complete their turn before the large truck travels the 1,000 feet down the hill. Most don't understand that these trucks cannot stop within this 1,000 feet. TXDOT's Bill Nelson should have studied this in obtaining his civil engineering degree. Every time I hear of another death at this interesection I wonder if he has ever though that there is a traffic engineering problem at this location, namely the speed limit. The road does not "open up" here. Please go to NCTCOG's dfwmaps.com, zoom in to this section of SH 114 and then click on "aerial photo." Look at the number of driveways and heavy industrial uses between the intersection and the Trinity River bridge. I have never seen a 60 mph speed limit in such a heavily built up industrial park.
Here's another point... what about that new weigh station that isn't used very often. I have only seen 1 Highway Patrol unit there and don't remember seeing any of those trucks slowing down as they fly by it... just a thought. Maybe it ought to be a Mandatory Stopping point for these trucks that just might slow em down enough before ever getting to FM 2123.
2123 is a total nightmare from about 7:45 - 8:00 a. m. during school days. Try it sometime and get a road rage idiot behind you. It happened to me. A lady in a little green car almost shoved me ONTO 114 one morning with heavy traffic both ways - I needed to turn left, but turned right and stopped to let the speed freak have the road.
Something needs to be done about that intersection. It is insane.
We should all write letters to Bill Nelson complaining. Problem is, doubt if he knows how to read.
The last time I was driving in an area with a 3% downhill grade, just prior to a valley, the speed limit did not increase until I got down the hill and in the flat terrain of the valley. Safer that way. Lowers the death rate. Brakes last longer.
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