This is absolutely riduclous. If the coach let her play and something happened to where she lost the baby, the girl would have filed a lawsuit as well.
Whatever happened to the days when a teenage pregnancy was not something to be proud of, but rather hidden. We need to go back to those days. Also, I agree with the coach. He didn't do anything wrong.
This story is ridiculus. That girls seems like nothing more than a spoiled rotten brat seeking attention. The coach is right in requesting a doctor's note. What happens if she has a hard fall and looses that baby? I bet her attitude would change after that.
Kids sit on the bench all the time during high school sports. You don't see them filing lawsuits over it.
sounds like she already took a "hard" fall
If she wanted to play volleyball, she shouldn't have gotten pregnant. Simple as that.
Does anyone else find it funny that this family called the media and put a picture of the girl on TV, but won't do an interview? What a bunch of idiots. One station even reported that the OB/GYN gave the note, but the girl wasn't being played as much! Wa,wa,wa,wa,wa............
Talk about majoring in minor issues......This family has a lot more to worry about than volleyball. Idiots.
I was in this situation years ago with a girl that was pregnant playing basketball. As officials you are responsible for their well- being so it puts you a real tough position. their is no way I think she should play and I think her mom is nuts for throwing a fit over it!
So she doesn't already have the best interest of the baby at top of mind. More worried about playing volleyball then the safety of the unborn baby. Selfish.
Lord save me from pregnant females! As Barry can testify, a woman/girl with child has always been a sticky wicket when it comes to civil rights, education, and employment law. Several years back, a group of women at a lead/cadmium battery factory production line sued to keep their jobs, though medical research showed a double digit percentage chance of birth defects GUARANTEED if they became pregnant. Did I mention these high risk jobs were the best paying in the factory? Courts ruled it was a woman's choice. Wonder how many offspring are developmentally challenged in that town today?My Other Brother Darryl
Mackenzie McCollum = white girl with Irish or Scottish heritage
I agree 3:03, we need to bring back the days of runaway girls, back-alley abortions, ended lives and educations, torn apart families, and churches booting out families with a daughter that ended up pregnant. We need to bring back the good ol' days of extreme shame. I sure do miss the good ol' days.
Give it time,Tiger will be given her the WOOD before long.
Well, if they had hired BG, 4:42...... everything would have been fine. He has NO idea of what it is like to have a pregnant daughter, (unless one lurks out there somewhere)........Let's see, who GETS her pregnant?Sperm. In whatever form it enters the uterous.
Someone is misquoting or not thoroughly quoting federal law. As reported, it means a girl who is 9 months pregnant can not be prevented from playing football.
What about the rights of the other players on the court, or the field, or whatever? If I am a visiting volleyball player, and I see a pregnant girl on the other side of the net, that impacts me. Who's looking out for the fact that maybe I don't want to spike the ball anymore, or rush the net at the risk of a collision with her? Who is looking out for me in case I do spike the ball and hit her in the uterus and cause her pain or discomfort? Do I have any rights NOT to have to deal with that? Imagine you're a golfer, and from now on a one year old infant will be placed on a blanket on each green you are hitting into. Do you hit that 7 iron approach shot the same way? It never seems that the rights of people to NOT have to deal with crap are ever considered. To me, having a pregnant girl on the field of play with me is where my nose begins, to reference the old "your rights end where my nose begins" phrase.
6:35..you missed the point. Of course, no one wants those horrible circumstances back. But, morals, yeah, we want them. We don't want to glorify a pregnancy that way. Too many times, a child is having a child. They have to grow up together. It is so sad for the girl, the baby, and whoever ends up having to raise the child.
She's obviously a bad player. She's always on her back.
9.51 very funny
I saw this story on ESPN outside the lines and the previous comment is right..her Mom has obviusly looked over the fact her Daughter acted as a whore and got pregnant and is more concerned about getting on TV than the fact that her daughter has a mattress attached to her back..sad and if I remember the espn story theres a good chance that tricycle motor will come out liking fried chicken and Ludicris
6:35, that's a straw man argument. No one is advocating going back to those days. But there's a HUGE difference between glorifying a teen pregnancy or even treating it as a normal occurrence and booting a girl out of her house. At least while she's pregnant, she should be leading a different lifestyle than she did before she got that way.
I used to donate and help out w/ one of the crisis preggo places here in the Metro mess and it was AMAZING how many married ladies driving BMW's would come there and get the clothes hanger deluxe because they didnt want there Hubbys to know they had swell belly..go to espn outside the lines and see if that story is still available..watch the story and see if that Mom is not a Glory Hound..sad..raise another female and pat them on the back and say..its okay to act like a whore..hell just go to wally world in Decatur on any sat and see the grandparents and moms raising there kids kids..stay classy
My use of the straw man was simply to point out the fallacy in you original point; you advocate that we shouldn't glorify teen pregnancy, but you also glorify how teen pregnancy was treated in the past. This weakens your intended point and opens your original statement to a debate that is easy to attack. Good catch in clarifying your intended point. However, during a real debate I don't know if I would abandoned the straw man at this point, probably force you to clarify further your allusion to how teen pregnancy was handled in the past and get you to agree on points I brought up initially, i.e. while glorifying teen pregnancy is not necessarily good, the way it was handled in the past was much more damaging to people and families.
The point was not to go back to the way it was handled in the past. The point is that there's a middle ground between that and this; it doesn't have to be either boot them out of the house or act like nothing has changed. A girl who is pregnant shouldn't be playing volleyball. Not only is it unsafe for both her and the baby, it's also an implicit approval of her pregnancy. At the very least, she should be living a more quiet lifestyle.
Yes, and if the little tart lost her baby because of playing volleyball, she would sue the school for it.
"But rather hidden", doesn't seem to conjure up thoughts of the common sense "middle ground" approach you now advocate.
i was just swimmin' along and "Bop", i ran into what i thought was a volleyball. double fake squigley sperm
I've been advocating a middle ground approach since my first post, which said, and I quote, "But there's a HUGE difference between glorifying a teen pregnancy or even treating it as a normal occurrence and booting a girl out of her house. At least while she's pregnant, she should be leading a different lifestyle than she did before she got that way." You like to ignore anything you can't demonize and make up stuff you can, don't you?And for the record, I never said anything about "rather hidden". There's such a thing as common sense. Most married women who get pregnant change some of their lifestyles and habits. Why is it so unnatural or oppressive to expect a girl who is pregnant not to participate in a sport that can get fairly brutal? Or to curtail some of her recreational activities? To spend more time at home? Or for that matter, to believe that she made some unwise choices and shouldn't get all the freedoms and privileges given to other kids her age? And before you even say it, I do NOT mean put her in purdah or cast her out of her home. I mean maybe she doesn't get to run for homecoming queen or get elected to an office.
Like I can track your anon posts? "but rather hidden" came from anon 3:03. Looks like we got one anon speaking for another(9:20 for 3:03), well whichever one you are you keep mistaking that I am debating with you, I simply pointed out a poorly written earlier anon post3:03, and responded to a 9:20 post seemingly directed at my post, and a latter(11:08)change of tone if in fact you are the same anon.
I am 8:35, 11:08, and 12:47. And I'm fairly certain you were responding to my 8:35 post because you referred to my straw man reference. I'm just as certain you were responding to my 11:08 post when you referred to "middle ground", because that's what I said...not what 3:03 said. And you still haven't acknowledged that there is in fact middle ground, nor have you responded to me last post except to say, "I wasn't talking to you". Which you were.Hmmm. Did I actually manage to make you speechless?
Never said I wasn't talking about your straw man post, I just assumed you were 3:03 defending a poorly worded comment. You are the one who is making a leap to think that I am defending a preggo playing vball.What part of my "common sense middle ground" comment did you not understand?I never said "I wasn't talking to you" so you can remove the quotations around that one. Again, I wasn't debating with you because you would not stand a chance to begin with. All I said from the beginning is that it wouldn't be smart to return to the banish and shame days of teen preggers. All my previous post were with the assumption you were 3:03 to begin with...the whole anon thing, yeah you are starting to get it by now? You keep wanting to argue about something you think I said or implied. Go back, read the flow of comments starting with 3:03 and you will see what I am typing about.Speechless? I wasn't speaking I was typing!
You know, I think you just like to argue. Maybe you're the devil, or maybe you're the devil's advocate. Either way I think you're avoiding my point, which is that there is a middle ground between "rather hidden" and playing volleyball, which is something you still have yet to reply. If this is what you consider a response: ""But rather hidden", doesn't seem to conjure up thoughts of the common sense "middle ground" approach you now advocate."Well that's not much of a reply. To paraphrase: Your initial response was a referrence to the days of the 50s when pregnant girls were booted out, etc etc. I said there was a middle ground between that and letting her play volleyball. I still don't see that you've responded aside from talking all around the issue and trying to stir things up, so I'm going to retire from this debate altogether.
Dude, for real let it go. I never disagreed with your "middle ground" comment. I tried to tell you this in my last comment, but you apparently do not have the reading skills to understand. I will spell it out for you; remember when I called it a common sense approach?
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