None of those three are Senators. Pelosi is the most dangerous woman in America. Healthcare for Clunkers coming to a Doc In A Box near you soon. I hope you liberal weenies are happy for voting these Marxists in office.
I was NOT sleeping! I was thoroughly enjoying the vote and thoroughly respecting at least one Republican who actually represented his constituancy!197 Republicans followed their leader and their greed instead of doing their duty!This mans comments at firstname.lastname@example.org reflects my thoughts exactly."I find it appalling when either party pressures its members to vote along party lines rather than vote with his/her conscience or in accordance with the wishes of his constituents. Shame on members of each party who do this. Congressmen and Congresswomen are supposed to represent their district, not the interest of their party powers.This isn't the Kremlin."
Check out the penalties if you don't like Nancy's plan. This is how people will get killed over health care.
Well, I see the stimulus plan is well at work. The local Honda dealership is having a going out of business sale and I think another outdoor shop on 287 is going out of business. They had a public auction last week. I’ve never heard of a business that has a public auction and continues to do business as usual. Place your bets, who will be next? I don’t blame Obama, I blame everyone. That’s how it’s done in the good old U.S. of A, blame someone else. It takes to much effort to admit your wrong, but then you would have to admit that you are wrong. It really does make me feel sad to see a business close when thay do abide by the rules.
12:13, At least 39 democrats voted according to their constituents. They were smart enought to know that they just assured themselves to be re-elected while the other lemmings that did vote for it just shot themselves in the foot and will have to find gainful employment after the next elections.
As a individual who buys his own health insurance I'm all for the public option. I would like to have the ability to shop for insurance. With pre-existing conditions restrictions I can never change carriers thus they are able to raise my payments at will. When you insure a car they don't cover everything but the left front fender do they?? Why should a human be any different?? The other thing is the public option allows individuals and small business owner to have the same buying power that corporations have. It is essentially a pool for individuals and small business owners.
Chet Edwards voted for the majority of his people in his district by voting NO to the bill that will drown us in debt. Any Democrat from a conservative district could not vote Yes and get re-elected.
The public option will not decrease the costs of any one's health care premium, even if you buy one on your own. It is very complicated, due to each state regulating the insurance industry, conumers can't buy from every insurance provider.
Okay!Here is how it works.If you have health insurance you will pay more to fund health insurance for those who do not have it. if you do not have it, you will be able to now get "affordable" insurance funded by the higher rates paid by those with insurance. This works great!What a solution!
Actually, a agreement was reach that only those needed to pass would vote, giving Dems in tough districts a pass this time around.I don't know if it will work. I do know that that we have doesn't except for those who are currently employed by large companies.....and with GM in mind, they probably shouldn't sleep too soundly at night.Have friends (a couple) paying almost 2500 each with 5k deductible because of preexisting conditions.... They have the money, but it isn't right for insurance companies to treat them this way.Have several friends with young adult children with children who only have CHIPS for their children and they are rolling the dice with thier own. That isn't right.
Why didn't the GOP feel this was a priority before last November? I guess it would have contradicted their philosophy where only the rich should get richer and the poor should die in emergency rooms because they couldn't afford a doctor visit.
praise mr obama he will take car of us all!!!
Sneaky weekend vote. If this was 'the bill of a generation' why hide the momentus act on the weekend??? Because they know it's crap and if it was during the week it would have gotten more coverage/attention.
7:01 you are an idiot, 9:16 you RE genius. 3:14 you get it as well. I was paying over 1000 dollars, which I could ill afford, before my carrier dropped me in 97 because I was 50 and had the flu the year before. I actually used my insurance to the tune of about 120.00. WHEN I HAD BEEN PAYING OVER 1000.00 A MONTH FOR TWO YEARS WITH THAT CARRIER.Sorry all you greedy conservative Bastids, but that is just WRONG in my book. Someone has to reign in those A**holes even if it has to be the government. Oh and don't look now Red staters but LACK of regulation got us into this mess as well as wrecking the economy on the way while about 1 percent of you actually got rich off the deregulation. The rest of you idiots were taking a hit in your pocketbooks while thumping your bibles, attending "TEA" parties and terrorizing abortion clinics.
8:11I really like the way you think. You are rare, one of the few who truly understand what the heck is going on.7:01You really need to get more sources as to what this is all about. I know what channel you've been listening to, cuz that's the crap they want you to believe. You look like an idiot spewing all of your rhetoric. Not a bit true!8:08Sneaky vote? I believe every news channel on tv was letting the American people know that the vote was taking place on Saturday. I certainly knew about it and watched every glorious moment of it. The best part, other than passing the bill, was watching the disgruntled biased retardicans sitting on their hands. That's what they did for the past 8 years and that is how the economy got so out of control.
8:58, If you watched the whole thing and enjoyed every glorious moment of it, I suggest that you don't watch when it goes to the Senate and gets shot down. We don't need another death on our hands because you don't have health insurance and you committed suicide.
10:16The real "death panels" are the insurance companies themselves. Think it through, who decides on your claims? Who decides if a treatment is "experimental" or too costly to pay for? Who is making a profit off these decisions? What bothers me the most is that American citizens miss this point, it's the insurance company making the decisions about your life and death. Now we are faced with mandatory health insurance, a huge windfall for the insurance companies and guess what, if the health reform goes through with the provision that no one will be rejected because of "existing health issues" then we will see the insurance companies raise their premiums to cover the cost. I want the public option, I want the choice OF a co-op, I want the right to shop across state lines for insurance, I REFUSE TO ALLOW THE INSURANCE COMPANIES TO CONTINUE TO MURDER PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF CAPITIALISM!!!
2:08, You won't be missed after you committ suicide.
They say our Senate has a great deal more smarts than the House, and that it will be defeated there!
Doesn't a picture of Pelosi just scare the crap out of you! She is about as evil inside as she is outside!!
You'll be sooooooorry!
2:08, You show your stupidity the more you talk. It is because of democrats taking insurance lobby money that you cannot shop across state lines for your insurance. Did you know that of the 20 largest insurance companies, their profits were only 8 billion dollars for one year. The wast and fraud for one year of the Medicare program was 500 billion. Do you see anything wrong here? Probably not.
I can't get Blue Cross Blue Shield because I had breast implants removed 14 years ago. They don't tell you you will have to have them replaced every ten years so after 10 years I opted to do away with them. $15,000.00 just to remove. Blue Cross will insure you if you still have them but won't insure you at all if you had them and then removed.Bottom line don't get implants unless your rich.I work 24/7 and can't afford insurance or even get it.Signed Insurless.
2:39 Did your doctor ever tell you that being an a$$hole is a pre-existing condition and cannot be covered!
There are other insurance companies.
I think there's more to your little story 2:41. I know alot of women with implants. None of them have replaced them after 10 years. That's crazy.
3:16, Thanks for the compliment. That's the nicest thing a liberal weenie teabaggie has called me all day. I would rather be an informed asshole with facts than a weenie without. I do hope you can get your asshole covered under Pelosi's plan.
Name one social program enacted by the U.S. government that costs what was originally stated and/or provides better services for the people in the program at a cheaper rate than can be obtained through a non-government entity?There is not one so why would ObamaCare be any different? You people who honestly believe the government will give you something for nothing have not been paying attention. You people who believe you are entitled to the fruits of another person's labour are nothing more than parasitic cancers of society.
mzchief, are you saying that your police officers, firemen, soldiers, teachers, public libraries, etc and the services they provide are not any good? Would you rather have a for profit police station in your neighborhood? Would you rather have a for profit fire station in your neighborhood? Would you like to have to choose and make appointments and have your own fire protection plan and pay premiums to the fire department just in case you might need it? Maybe the next time someone has a car accident, they can use their car phone while they are trapped and shop around for an affordable paramedic, fire department and police department that are all "within your network".
3:41 They probably weren't told they should replace them. I wasn't, until I had a little trouble with one implant capsular.Check into it before you think please.
To anonymous 9:31...None of the government sponsored entities you have listed are considered a "social program." Social programs are programs such as Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and the like. It is the job of the government to enforce the law. Local law enforcement is typically paid for via property taxes. Schools and non volunteer fire departments are paid for by EVERYONE in the form of taxes assessed according the the value of property. Everyone pays property tax even people who rent homes pay property taxes which, typically covers the costs of local law enforcement. Ambulance services are not free and are frequently subsidized with taxes assessed to property. How much property someone ones is a personal choice. I intentionally do not live in an extravagant home because I do not want to pay insane taxes.People like you, who have no idea what you are talking about, are another one of the BIG problems with the U.S.GET INFORMED PRIOR TO SHOOTING FROM THE LIP!
mzchief, How is providing for the health and safety of citizens with a law enforcement program and fire prevention/response program any different, morally and ethically, than a healthcare system that provides for all citizens? I expect law enforcement to provide for all citizens, not just those that can afford it.
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