8.29.2006

Ridin' Dirty

Hornbuckle's church may one day change its web site.

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

When will people wake up to all this mega church with food courts, healing, send me money and I'll talk to God for you, handling of serpents, revival crap. Want to believe in God? Just do it. Want to have a church? Get some people that believe as you do, go sit under a tree, and talk. That's just as good, just as much a church.

Anonymous said...

9:17 Amen!!!

Anonymous said...

"I. One God, one moral system, one Bible. If nature be a system, religion is no less so. God is "a God of order," and that is the same as to say he is a God of system. Nature and religion, the offspring of the same supreme intelligence, bear the image of one father - twin-sisters of the same divine parentage. There is an intellectual and a moral universe as clearly bounded as the system of material nature. Man belongs to the whole three. He is an animal, intellectual, and moral being. Sense is his guide in nature, faith in religion, reason in both. The Bible contemplates man primarily in his spiritual and eternal relations. It is the history of nature so far only as is necessary to show man his origin and destiny, for it contemplates nature - the universe - only in relation to man's body, soul, and spirit.

II. The Bible is to the intellectual and moral world of man what the sun is to the planets in our system - the fountain and source of light and life, spiritual and eternal. There is not a spiritual idea in the whole human race that is not drawn from the Bible. As soon will the philosopher find an independent sunbeam in nature, as the theologian a spiritual conception in man, independent of The One Best Book.

III. The Bible, or the Old and New Testaments, in Hebrew and Greek, contains a full and perfect revelation of God and his will, adapted to man as he now is. It speaks of man as he was, and also as he will hereafter be; but it dwells on man as he is, and as he ought to be, as its peculiar and appropriate theme. It is not, then, a treatise on man as he was, nor on man as he will be; but on man as he is, and as he ought to be; not as he is physically, astronomically, geologically, politically, or metaphysically; but as he is and ought to be, morally and religiously.

IV. The words of the Bible contain all the ideas in it. These words, then, rightly understood, and the ideas are clearly perceived. The words and sentences of the Bible are to be translated, interpreted, and understood according to the same code of laws and principles of interpretation by which other ancient writings are translated and understood; for, when God spoke to man in his own language, he spoke as one person converses with another - in the fair, stipulated, and well-established meaning of the terms. This is essential to its character, as a revelation from God; otherwise it would be no revelation, but would always require a class of inspired men to unfold and reveal its true sense to mankind.

V. We have written frequently and largely upon the principles and rules of interpretation, as of essential importance and utility in this generation of remaining mysticizing and allegorizing. From our former writings we shall here only extract the naked rules of interpretation, deduced from extensive and well-digested premises; fully sustained, too, by the leading translators and most distinguished critics and commentators of the last and present centuries.

VI.

RULE 1. On opening any book in the sacred Scriptures, consider first the historical circumstances of the book. These are the order, the title, the author, the date, the place, and the occasion of it.

The, order in historical compositions is of much importance; as, for instance, whether the first, second, or third, of the five books of Moses, or of any other series of narrative, or of even epistolary, communications.

The title is also of importance, as it sometimes expresses the design of the book. As Exodus - the departure of Israel from Egypt; Acts of Apostles, etc.

The peculiarities of the author, the age in which he lived, his style, mode of expression, illustrate his writings. The date, place, and occasion of it, are obviously necessary to a right application of any thing in the book.

RULE 2. In examining the contents of any book, as respects precepts, promises, exhortations, etc., observe who it is that speaks, and under what dispensation he officiates. Is he a Patriarch, a Jew, or a Christian? Consider also the persons addressed, their prejudices, character, and religious relations. Are they Jews or Christians, believers or unbelievers, approved or disapproved? This rule is essential to the proper application of every command, promise, threatening, admonition, or exhortation, in Old Testament or New.

RULE 3. To understand the meaning of what is commanded, promised, taught, etc., the same philological principles, deduced from the nature of language, or the same laws of interpretation which are applied to the language of other books, are to be applied to the language of the Bible.

RULE 4. Common usage, which can only be ascertained by testimony, must always decide the meaning of any word which has but one signification; but when words have, according to testimony (i. e., the Dictionary), more meanings than one, whether literal or figurative, the scope, the context, or parallel passages must decide the meaning; for if common usage, the design of the writer, the context, and parallel passages fail, there can be no certainty in the interpretation of language.

RULE 5. In all tropical language ascertain the point of resemblance, and judge of the nature of the trope, and its kind, from the point of resemblance.

RULE 6. In the interpretation of symbols, types, allegories and parables, this rule is supreme: - Ascertain the point to be illustrated; for comparison is never to be extended beyond that point-to an the attributes, qualities, or circumstances of the symbol, type, allegory, or parable.

RULE 7. For the salutary and sanctifying intelligence of the Oracles of God, the following rule is indispensable: We must come within the understanding distance.

There is a distance which is properly called the speaking distance, or the hearing distance; beyond which the voice reaches not, and the ears hear not. To hear another, we must come within that circle which the voice audibly fills.

Now we may with propriety say, that as it respects God, there is an understanding distance. All beyond that distance can not understand God; all within it can easily understand him in all matters of piety and morality. God himself is the center of that circle, and humility is its circumference."

Anonymous said...

His web page might be the last thing on his list he might want to change. He is going to change to a "receiver" next Saturday nite. Squeal like a pig, boy. You sure have purdy lips.

Anonymous said...

All I can think of is this--how sad.

Anonymous said...

Anon 9:17. A reasonable person would not generalize about ALL of these churches. There is good and bad.

m&m said...

Anon 10:58 "contains a full and perfect revelation of God and his will", What kind of crap is that? #1 it is not perfect, there are many errors and contradictions. #2 no where does the Bible claim to contain all God has ever revealed to mankind, thus it cannot be described as "full revelation".

kehk said...

M&M, you got further in reading that comment than I did.

mzchief said...

The ENTIRE Hornbuckle episode proves more than just a few things about religion. First and foremost is the fact that if you have ANY individual who is accepted as and permitted to portray themselves as a/the all knowing/learned intermediary of God there will be problems resulting in serious consequences. The second part of that dilemma is when the people who "flock" to that individual are little more than mindless sheep who are more than willing to eliminate logical and rational reasoning as a part of the equation when it comes to accepting the "message" being delivered.

Christians, as well as any other group of people willing to BLINDLY follow dogma, get what they deserve when they are hoodwinked by someone who engages in a one sided dialog and relationship with people who are willing if not eager to divest themselves of their own "free will."

Spirituality is a gift to humans from GOD!
Religion is a creation of men forced upon humans.

As for the dreck presented by anonyNOTHING 10:58; to be honest I did NOT bother to wade through the MINDLESS ranting of someone who is so hopelessly mired in fables and myths they are incapable of RATIONAL thought.

Anonymous said...

10:58- What a bunch of WICA crap. Did you copy that right out of their book or what

Anonymous said...

9:17 - those who think for themselves are awake - and they won't be fooled by these flashy preachers. They stay where they are and don't split every two or three years!

You made good points!

oldphilosopher said...

"Those who are believed to be most abject and humble are usually most ambitious and envious."
----- Spinoza

"He that humbleth himself wishes to be exalted."
------ Nietsche

"Don't be humbe. You're not that great."
------ Golda Meir

Anonymous said...

I'm humbe.

anonymouse said...

anony 10:58
you should probably just start killing everyone who don't agree with you.

Anonymous said...

"If you think yourself humble, obviously you are not."

"Verbose religious nonsense on the Blog goes unread."

"Church is as Christ defined it as He is the founder."

....Obviously Anonymous

anonymouse said...

"shut the hell up"
----from THE mouse
(I would have quoted the ususal "shut the hell up bitch" but I'm trying to clean up barry's blog!)

Anonymous said...

A witle bwu mouse that cuses, how cute.