I don't believe he had a choice.
DANG IT BARRY I KNOW THE SCOOP....POST IT!
I WONDER IF THEY WILL ELOPE ........HA HA HA.I HOPE SHES HOT!
He did have a choice. He is a good coach that made a personal choice most of us would question and for good reason. I urge everyone to use discretion on commenting on this post because a lot of folks are hurting right now. His children and many students at DHS have been and will continue to be impacted by this situation.
1:09 Maybe he should have thought a little more about his children when he was involved in the behavior that led to resignation! Sounds to me like he was thinking with the wrong head!
Many of us will probably hear what happened eventually from someone around town. I would like to hear the facts from this board if possible.I agree that discrestion should be used. If the information will hurt someone then it is not necessary.Thanks
Well... he "resigned"... why has the other not "resigned" as well?Let's be fair here.
Ah Hah! I must have guessed it! You didn't post what I said. Mmmmmm... Laughing out Loud I don't even know what happened. I just made an off the wall guess. Well.. not off the wall nowadays, pretty common., don't ya think?
I feel very sorry for his wife and children. He should have known better. AND... there is someone else that should take part of the heat. What could possibly be that excuse? Stupidity?
I guess it's not news that an English teacher resigned from Decatur yesterday too.
It's not anyone's business - I am most thankful for the years of hard work and dedication to our kids we received from Coach Harrison. I personally wish him the very best in his future.
I stopped in Chili's last night to get a bite and heard the full story from one of the other coaches by the end of my meal....doesn't sound like the faculty were instructed to be tight lipped!
When one takes those kinds of "chances" with ones career/life/family, and one is working FOR the public, then one risks the most definite possibilities that those "activities" will most definitely be discussed by the public they serve. Decatur seems to be a "haven" for this type of behavior. Doesn't make those involved "bad" people... just made some stupid choices that will hurt their family. Whatever the future holds, you can just bet the people who are involved will never be the same. But as far as "protecting" them by keeping mouths shut.... sorry. They risked it, now they must reap.
I'm not quite sure what is meant by saying 'use discretion' because people are hurting. Is it hurtful if what is said is the truth? The truth can hurt, that is true. But if the hurting people know the truth, and hear or see the truth put on this blog, does that make them hurt more? Should it? I'm not sure. I guess the most important thing is that whatever is revealed, (whenever the Scoop-Gate-Keeper Barry releases that), that it be the truth.
One question - Is Chris Hansen involved anywhere in this story???
To M & M - yes, even if it's the truth, to see it in print, over and over, is still even more hurtful. Innocent people are truly hurt by this, and don't deserve to be the talk of the town, which is what happens to most victims. And, when they're innocent, then, yes, that makes the hurt worse.This is Decatur; I am confident you'll have heard the whole truth by the time you even read this blog next.And, no, the teachers weren't told to be tight-lipped. We're just using discretion because it's the right thing to do.Pray for all involved---
Rumors abound in Decatur, and many innocent people have been dragged through lies begun by others who are jealous or angry at another. It is wise to exercise caution when hearing rumors, but here it seems rumors feed more lies and friendships are hurt. However, when the rumors are backed by resignations of those involved, then people have to consider the facts.
To anon 7:41That made a hell of a lot of sense! have you thought about a career at the Messenger?
If he was from Bridgeport, it would be front page, damn the sensitivities.
IF the tale is YOURS to tell and YOU want to tell the tale then it is all good. HOWEVER, if there is someone OTHER than you who is ALSO a party to the tale then it is NOT your tale alone to tell and you bloody well best keep it to yourself. If YOU are NOT a party to the tale then you had best keep YOUR mouth SHUT because you do NOT know the TRUE tale to tell. Which is PRECISELY why the "Decatur Coach" tale has NO business being told on THIS blog.
What a fine institution fo learning it is here in Decatur. We have coaches worrying about what others are doing in there private time, making there own judgments, and using there judgments to ruin other people's lives. WHy don't you people use your time to worry about the students and their education, and your own private life and keep your nose out of what is NOT your business. I am disgusted by this. Has anyone heard of anything like this in any other school systems. These people must be really bored with their life if they have to be so hateful as to handle a situation this way.
This is starting to sound like an episode of "The Brady Bunch". If you tell the tale that isn't your tale to tell, then your tale may be the tale to tell.
Annon 4:56: What is wrong with you? If a person serving the public is doing a good job and enriching the lives of students where do you think that it is any of your business or anyone elses what that person does in his spare time. This is between the parties involved and the man upstairs NOT YOU. Maybe you will someday be on the receiving end of your "reap what you sow attitude" Because you too will "reap what you sow.
6:40 I don't think the innocent victims are the talk of the town, it is generally the individuals who instigated the questionable activity.7:41 You had too much to drink by the time you wrote that genius piece. mzchief: Since when did those little rules apply to this blog. There has always been speculation, innuendo, rumor has it, type statements about everything on this blog. Are you trying to change the rules on us now?10:44 I didn't quite get the first half of you statement and I'm wondering if you have been drinking with 7:41. According to some statements on here students education isn't our business, so why worry about it. What are you disgusted with? There is nothing here on this blog. No accusation, no juicey story or rumors. Barry has done a nice job of screening the entries. How can you complain about it? There's nothing to compain about.
All I can say is I had coach Harrison in high school, and well-he was just worthless. How can you defend someone that wastes your tax money by allowing students to play games in class EVERYDAY-while he is working on baseball stuff?
To m&m...Just because it has been done in the PAST does not mean it was the RIGHT thing to do or the thing people should CONTINUE to do.Incidentally, I have NEVER participated in telling someone elses tale.Gossip, even when it is true hurts someone.
Harrison is gone. Get over it already.
If you know about the education profession, then you know this kind of behavior ( during school hours and on school property) is not condoned. Therefore, the resignations. I'm sure they will get on with their lives (personal) and that is fine. Those who teach set examples for many young minds... THAT is why there is disappointment here.
DON'T you JUST love THE way MZCHIEF post HERE? it SURE is AN attention GETTER, huh. MAN o MAN,i CAN'T wait TO read ANOTHER pearl OF wisdom FROM mzchief.
To anonyNOTHING 11:20...Thank YOU!*SMuG GRiN*
The Decatur story has nothing on the Alvord one! WOW! I'm surprised the Star Telegram or the Dallas Morning News has picked it up!People shouldn't live in a small town and do those type of things if they don't want everyone to know.
I meant "hasn't" picked it up.
Appearantley Decatur does not use the phrase "what happens in the class room stays in the class room."
OK, look. Not everyone on this blog has access to the local word of mouth. Or the print edition of the local newspaper. So until someone points out what happened on this blog or makes some reference as to where else this news can be found
10:21: I am wondering if you are the one drinking because you make no sense to me.
I'm with you 4:57, I have no idea what has happened, and will not know unless it is posted here. I don't know enough people around Decatur to hear any gossip.
OK - 10:51PM gets the coveted "Pickled Piper Award". Since I don't live in Wise County, Texas and don't know any of the parties involved, I will just give you MY PURE SPECULATION, from my take on the blog responders:Some coach had the hots for some English teacher, they got caught doing something inappropriate, and both resigned.Where I came from, our HS BB (that's basketball) Coach was actually caught having sex with one of the HS basketball players in the locker room after practice. What a scandal that was. These days, he would have been jailed. They all moved away, but many, many years later, he (and she, still his wife after all those years) came back to our school as the Superintendent, and Basketball Coach, and she was a fine, upstanding, altho actually really quite bitchy, citizen of our town. This kind of stuff will never end - I may be wrong on my synopsis of this current situation, but if correct, I wish them both the best.Otherwise, there are some old hags and hagglers in WC who started this whole bale of shiate who need to be run over in the Wal-Mart parking log. P.S. "The Last Picture Show" is my all time favorite iconoclastic presentation of this type of stuff.Love, Anon Whatever-TimeP.S. Shut the F up Mzcreep - I still hate you for some reason.
6:46 pm There you go drinking too early in the evening again. Look up and down this blog and there is not one 10:21 entry. Go back and read your previous blog. There's no logic or sense to the thing.
This is somewhat off topic but...teachers are not "called" to their profession. Teachers are not ministers, preachers, moral guidance counselors, nor are they correctional officers or surrogate parents. We are academic instructors. Please quit treating us like we are glorified volunteers that are supposed to instill morals, values, and ethics to your children! That is a parent's job. What I do on my own time in my privacy is NONE of your business and that goes for everyone involved in this sad situation.
Re: 10:51 PM -The Brady Bunch How about:If you tell the tale that isn't your tale to tell, then your tale may be the tail's tale to tell. Isn't that swell?
10:58, I have no problem reaping what I sow! These people took risks and now they have been caught. They think no one will talk about it? They think no one will be hurt from it? Get real! Funny how some are tarred and feathered for this type of behavior, but those who have winning teams are overlooked. Wrong is wrong, and what was done here is wrong. That is why they have had to resign. Period!
8:29: You have no problem reaping what you sow? If we were all so rightous. THis has nothing to do with winning teams in my mind, it has to do with understanding that you or anyone else are not the judge of this person. Generally, it is riduculous to make a person resign from their job because of personal decisions that are made in private life,as long as the job is not adversly affected. People make decisions in their private life that are not right however, it is not right to take a mans livelyhood away from him as long as he is continuing to do a good job for the students. THis is what causes more harm than good. Until you have walked the perverbial mile in one's shoes it is best to leave the judgments to the man upstairs and let the parties involved work through their problems without interference from all the negative influence. IF more people would stay out of everyone's business there would be less people hurt if that is what you are truly concerned with. If you are out to tar and feather people as you say I feel sorry for you.
7:58: You are absolutely correct. I assume you are a teacher by your comment. It is the parents responsibility to instill morals and values in the children. I know that teachers do the best that they can however, it is impossible to expect teachers to instill morals into their students. There is enough responsibility just teaching the kids all they need to know academically. As long as the teachers do the best they can teaching the children IT IS NONE OF MY BUSINESS OR ANYONE ELSE'S BUSINESS what you do in your private time. In fact if a teacher was having a difficult time or making bad choices and that teacher chose to confide in me I would think that what should be done is to see to it that the teacher got the help they needed if possible or if wanted. The last thing I would want was for that teacher to loose their job if they were doing right by the students. I have never heard of such a thing as what has happened here. Where do these people at DISD get their ideas. UG!!!!
9:30 pm...you are so right..I really agree with everything you said...why is it anyone's business if the Coach/teacher is doing a great job for DISD and his Baseball/football boys he loved to Coach...he shouldnt be treated this way....this is a sad situation and Decatur is losing a great Coach, teacher, friend and person.Coach Harrison will be an asset to any school district that he goes to...and it's Decatur's loss...I pray for his happiness, I pray for his children, and all involved....Life is to short not to be happy in this world...we will miss you Coach Harrison...10:57 ........
let me tell all of you people something that think you have the right to judge other people. i know him very very well, he and his family are dear friends of mine and will always be. he is a great guy and one hell of a coach. i had the opportunity to play for him for his first four years and he is decatur baseball. so don`t start doggin him like all of a sudden he is this terrible person, he is only human just like the rest of us. have respect for him and his family and don`t come on here and bash him. my last year to play for him we were the best team class 3a in the state of texas and we achieved this because of his unbelievable leadership and passion to win. all members of the next breath tour 00`, including myself will never forget or stop living by our motto,"You will never win until winning is as important as your next breathe." Thanks Slick
The real tragedy is the size of MzCreeps foreHead!!! Why will you never Shut Up, people hate you. Look in a mirror and understand you are hopless!!!!!
12:31 You need to go back and read each post again. I don't see anyone bashing Coach Harrison or throwing out any judgements. There are not any personal attacks against him or the other teacher. There is only some reap what you sow thinking, but the main issue that I can tell is whether or not the details of what happened should be public knowledge and especially whether the details should be allowed on this blog.I agree, that he is a great coach and had a great passion for the sports he coached and seemed to be a great teacher and was welled admired. He also seemed to be a great man.There has been a lot of talk about what teachers and coaches do in their private lives is not anybody's business, to which I agree. However, 9:44 indicated the misbehavior occurred on school property and during school hours. That makes it our business. We pay them to teach and coach, not do what they did. I suppose it would have turned out different if it would have taken place after hours and in another location.
2K-10, I also played for Harrison, and I won't argue that he is not a great coach, but I will argue the fact that he is a great man. As a teacher and coach, you are putting yourself in a position of a role model to kids whether you like it or not. My wife is now a teacher and coach and the kids really look up to her and she has alot to do with teaching kids very important things in life. How could anyone want their kids to be taught by someone who would cheat on their wife on numerous occasions(this isn't the first time), and leave their family for someone that is younger and more attractive than the wife he currently has. Come on people. He screwed up big time and deserved to be fired from Decatur. If he wanted a job where your personal life is not involved, then he should have chosen a different profession. I do feel sorry for his wife and kids though. They don't deserve what he has done to their family.
Sounds like many of you can empathize with this situation. Perhaps that is why I read so many comments about this type of behavior being "no one's business." To the contrary, teachers' personal lives are JUDGED by the public, the media, and most certainly by parents all the time! That's reality!to 9:15 No one said anything about WANTING to tar and feather..... if you read the passage again, the writer said some ARE tarred and feathered for this type of behavior while others who do the same ARE NOT!! Is that fair? What do you think brings that type of unfair prejudice on? Get real! You people are quite FICKLE!
The thing I like about all these comments is that the vast majority are supportive of Coach Harrison. The ones that are not, appear to be people who do not know him. It's always easier to be judgmental & self-righteous when you don't know the parties involved. Everyone I know that knows the Harrisons are just incredibly sad for the obvious pain that they are all in. However, I think there is a misconception that he was forced to go. An administer told me that they tried to talk him into at least finishing the year. Unless that administrator was being misleading (and I realize that is a possibility), then it was Harrison's choice to leave immediately. The sudden departure is what has made this such a public issue, don't you think? But it's one thing if he was forced out & it's another if he chose to go. (If he was forced out, would this be grounds for a lawsuit?) The only thing I am sure of is that there are many, many students, faculty, parents, alumni, etc. that are saddened & even devastated by his departure. That, in itself, is a testement to the person than Glen Harrison is & the impact he has made on those who know him. And because I don't want to invade the privacy of his wife and children, I don't want to say too much about them, except that everyone I know wishes they could do something to help them through all this. Few people have lived very long without seeing this kind of thing happen somewhere in their families - it's just not so public. I suspect that is why most people don't want to point fingers and be judgmental. None of us are perfect, far from it actually. All of us hate to see good people like the Harrisons in such pain. We can only hope that our support, in whatever way they need it, can be of some help.
what happened in alvord?
Guys, take a breath. Most educator contracts have a morals clause. End of story.Let's put sympathy where it is due.There are a couple of kids/wife paying the priceLet's pray a "new start" someplace else will work for this family.
With all that said--No, we, as teachers, are not the ones supposed to teach morals, ethics, and standards of the community-- but we have to anyway!But, we are to abide by a code of conduct, in relation to our profession, that leads by example. Every profession has a certain code of conduct!We are entrusted with your precious and impressionable children on a daily basis, and it is our job, those of us who see them more than their parents, in many cases, to allow them the opportunity to learn right from wrong, based on our examples.You're right, only One can judge; we should not! But we must try our darndest to live a life that doesn't allow for public judgement, one that our students can look up to, respect. We are not without sin, but in public education, our private lives often become public, as a result of our actions. If I worked at a local eatery or business, the fact is, the results of my actions would NOT be the same as if I teach.Can we forgive the mistakes made here? Of course, we must forgive..And, we must continue to pray for reconciliation, strength and peace for ALL involved.
The old devil is always at work...and he can take over in the good people, as he has done here..chances are the coach has made some mistakes but he probably has stepped back and realized his mistakes..but the devil works all the time and he seems to find his way into everyones lives..The Bible says that one sin is no greater than another....so judge not that you be not judged...from another that is not perfect
The old devil is always at work..It seems like he works especially hard on the good people.. and it we will hear more about it in the small towns that know each other and care about each other..but the Bible says "judge not that you be not judged" we might not be so quick to judge if we walked a mile in their shoes...chances are the Coach has took a step back and already realized what he has done that he should have done differently but only he will have to answer for that... we are suppose to pray for him and his family.
Evidently....English and Baseball go together real well. ;)
I can assure you that Coach Harrison was not "caught" doing any questionable activity at school. That is not what happened that led to his leaving. If you are really interested in the facts, you can quit supposing that something happened at school or at a school activity that led to this. I know for a fact that it didn't.
7:46, NO ONE CAN BE SURE OR POSITIVE OF ANYTHING!
There is a "moral" clause in our contracts but the truth is that those contracts are non-negotiable. Yeah, we have teacher "organizations" that are but a shadow of a union but we have zero ability to discuss that contract. Fact is, you want a job, you sign the contrac and it is the same contract as every other district in the state. So...if the town decides that drinking alcohol is immoral and they see me drinking a margarita at Chili's on my "off" time, then I can be canned, right?!? WHO decideds what is acceptable and unacceptable? As for the topic of this little sub-blog, I think there are a bunch of self-righteous hypocrites in this town that are like freaking vultures when it comes to news like this. You people need to pray for a little humility for yourselves! Shame on all of the gossips.
7:46, you most certainly do NOT know that for a fact!
Hey, Barry. You put in the newer post (one that asks how Messenger will deal with this issue) that the coach's name is KEN Harrison. Nope...coach's name is GLEN Harrison. KEN Harrison is/was the highway patrol officer that lives/lived around here. No need to post this, just wanted to correct you before you get Ken on your case! ha!
GEEEEZZZZZEEE!NOTHING personal people but those of you who CARE to KNOW the particulars surrounding the coach leaving NEED to get a hobby and SOME class. WHAT difference does it make if YOU know the particulars? The guy is STILL leaving regardless of whether or not YOU know the details. It is a done deal. This mindless curiosity about something that is NONE of ANYONE's business sounds ALL too familiar. It reminds me of how SOME people NEED to know EVERY detail of a highway fatality or sudden death before they are SATISFIED.Oh yeah! If it makes YOU feel better, go ahead and hate ME because I KNOW to look the other way when something goes down that is NONE of my business and is being handled by the people who are SUPPOSE to know the details.
To mzchief hater 7:14...You have NO idea how much of a tickle I get KNOWING I piss you off just by ME being ME.
Barry, point of order! When you release comments do they go at the end or at the time they were sent?It seems some have been inserted above where I last read.Also Barry, how many are you sitting on?
Answer: I sat on about six comments until the Messenger story came out confirming what they said.
and now word is....... Harrison has asked for his job back! Guess if they let him back...they have to let that English teacher back as well. That could be interesting!
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