7.30.2010

Rankings Released: Is Our Children Learning?*

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44 comments:

Anonymous said...

What about Slidell, they are in Wise County also. They were an exemplary campus Barry. Lets do better than the messuper here.

Goober said...

What's the deal? Don't you consider Slidell part of Wise County? Are do you just not want to embarrass the other school?

Anonymous said...

Slidell was Exemplary...there, happy now?

Anonymous said...

Is there an outbreak of STD's that I didn't hear about?

Anonymous said...

We're all doomed.

Anonymous said...

This is all a racket. The numbers are meaningless and can easily be massaged. The attainment of the good ratings is extremely overemphasized by school districts due to the shortsightedness of our grandiose public education bureaucrats.

Anonymous said...

If we had believed the two or three idiots that were hammering this blog before the Decatur board election, Rann Elem should have been condemned and martial law declared. Instead and in spite of what had to be a stressful atmosphere, the administration and vast majority of teachers honored their profession, stood by those kids, and were the brightest spot in the whole district! Although it is not enough, THANK YOU for your hard work, professionalism, and love for those kids.

Anonymous said...

I can't get over your header, "Is Our Children Learning". I know you did that on purpose Barry, but bad grammar is like fingernails on a chalkboard. All them schools have room for improvement! LOL

Anonymous said...

It's ARE our kids learning.

What was B-port rated when you were attending?

You sound like you live on the delta.

Mr. Mike Honcho said...

Only two High Schools in the whole county could not score recognized or higher.... Bridgeport and Chico.

Only one Middle School in the County could not score recognized or higher... Bridgeport.

Tired of Excuses... just want to hear what will be done "this year."

Anonymous said...

I guess we need to send our kids to Paradise ISD!!!!

Anonymous said...

Its that dang real grass football field at Decatur.
When do ya think they will get it now that they have the votes for it on the school board?

Anonymous said...

Each district receives a rating as well. Bridgeport was the only "Acceptable" district in the county (lowest of all districts in county). How sad for them. Glad my kid doesn't go there.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Honcho, there is nothing that the Bridgeport district can do to help their ratings. Oh, they could ask the federal government to seal our southern border. The percent of the Bridgeport students being hispanic jumped to 39% so the scores went down. This trend will continue and white flight will exert downward presure on student test scores and property values (and the tax base).

Anonymous said...

Top ten fractured sentences of all time (up to July of 2010)...

10. What up?

9. What it be?

8. Wut?

7. Step back, biotch.

6. Just cAn't Run aHEAD of the pack like I used too.

5. Is it what it were?

4. Is it what it be?

3. Can we have the table in the corner?

2. Damn!

1. Who do that voodoo that you do so well....eh?

Double Fake Punched or Bored

Anonymous said...

Paradise by the dashboard lights.

Double Fake Meatloaf

Anonymous said...

Which school did B Ho attend that taught him that there are 57 states in the Union?

Mr. Mike Honcho said...

4:05,

Do our elementary and intermediate schools have the same demongraphics? Yes.

Anonymous said...

If only the common folk really knew what all can kick a school out of the exemplary rating. It isn't just about learning, it's about numbers and demographics. And yes, non-English speaking students bring scores down. FACT. Pretty difficult to reach exemplary when mid year move-ins.. in secondary schools.. can't speak a lick of English. Really wish someone/some company would do research on what move-ins do to a district's scores.

Anonymous said...

Before any of you get all excited about the exemplary and recognized ratings, you might want to check out what "TPM" means. You might also want to check out just how much the state LOWERED the percentage of correct answers it took for a kid to pass the tests this year.

Anonymous said...

4:05 What is the percentage of hispanics at the elementary and intermediate schools? Why were they able to reach exemplary status?

Anonymous said...

Decatur has fixed this issue and taken action to ensure they do not get ratings like this again.

Way to go!

Anonymous said...

I like how this happened during the Obama administration, all around the area scores are higher than usual.

Anonymous said...

8:38 - These evaluation come from the state of TExas, and only the state of Texas. We do have federal No Child Left Behind, but these scores have nothing to do with that.

You probably would have blamed the Obama administration if the scores went down, & since the scores went up, you are trying to blame the Obama administration for "fixing" the scores, I suppose. But this is all from the great state of TEXAS, my friend, no matter which way you want to judge it - good or bad.

Anonymous said...

If a school has a failing student, the school can just indicate "well, one day this student might do better" and that student won't count as failing. Stats don't mean squat anyway. It's about individual students. Here's a "stat" for you that shows how misleading stats can be: I live on a road with 20 residences that have an average value of $1,000,000. What kind of neighborhood do you imagine? Well, it's a road that's 10 miles long, with one $20,000,000 estate at the end of it behind a gate and way deep in the woods, and 19 other dirty, meth infested worthless trailers scattered along where the road intersects with a main highway. But hey, the average home value of the 20 residences is $1,000,000.

Anonymous said...

5:38- mid year move-ins DON'T count! Only student here at the end of Oct count (the OFFICIAL PEIMS date). Anyone after that counts for the district where they were enrolled at the end of Oct.

Anonymous said...

The TPM dude is likely a bitter old man who complains about everything!

It is sad when one is not able to find anything good in life.

Anonymous said...

Just as certain home-run records should have an asterik (denoting steroid use) the scores for this year and last should have one (denoting manipulation by the state) counting kids who actually didn't pass but got close.

Not to mention the incredibly low threshold of what is considered passing.......closer to 50% than 70.

Even TEA is embarassed by the results sending a letter to districts that the largesse may not be there next year and to prepare for lower ratings.

Example, published reports cite that 3 out of 4 districts were rated EXEMPLARY (Wise Co 1 of 7)
and only 30 LOW PERFORMING campuses acrsss the state. Now that's inflation.

But the scores are what they are for the entire state. Campuses that made real progress should celebrate. Campuses that have been Exemplary before the manipulation (Alvord, Paradise, and Boyd) and did it again should celebrate even more! Slidell who has an Exemplary High School and Elementary thus District should be crowing and crowing.

And by the way, blaming Hispanics is just racist. There are majority Hispanic campuses across this state that are exemplary. If it hasn't changed, move-ins after October are not counted. There is some limited accomodations for language.

TAKS or its replacement will always be there in some form. Instead of doing all the spinning and excusing, let's master the damn thing, and in the process prepare our kids for life.......one test after another.

Jerry Howard

Anonymous said...

Students come without speaking a "lick of English" at all grade levels, and they have to pass TAKS just like the secondary level. All schools also get the mid year move-ins.

Anonymous said...

7:50, "3 out of 4 districts were rated EXEMPLARY (Wise Co 1 of 7)". Source please?

Anonymous said...

It is NOT racist, it is indeed factual to say that kids who are being tested in their second language (some of whom have been speaking that second language only a couple of years), score lower, as a group, than kids who are being tested in their native language. In our area, that group that is being tested in their second language are Hispanics.

The same thing goes for poverty. Kids that come from impoverished homes score lower, as a group, than kids who don't.

I am sure many of us would score low on a test in Science or Math that was in Spanish if we had only just begun to speak Spanish semi-fluently.

Highland Park and Southlake Carroll are evaluated by the exact same criteria as school districts with the highest poverty rates, and highest English as a Second Language rates.

We aren't comparing apples to apples here in Texas.

Maybe we should but an asterick about that fact.

Anonymous said...

If ya ain't happy being poor or livin with em move

Anonymous said...

Take a look at the ratings for Brock ISD in Parker County. Wow! And they don't do football.

Anonymous said...

AMEN Jerry Howard!

Anonymous said...

7:41
"TPM dude" here, and I'm not "a bitter old man." I am a woman who teaches in an Exemplary high school (NOT in Wise county)that has achieved that rating (multiple years) without TPM.
We have Hispanic, Korean, Vietnamese, Chinese, and African American subpopulations(that means 90% of those students must pass the TAKS to retain our rating without TPM.) We do NOT have an economically disadvantaged subpopulation.

Anonymous said...

I know a big difference between districts like Southlake and Decatur. They are not drilling the hell out of their students day in and day out with boring TAKS/soon-to-be STAARS benchmarks. That's ALL Decatur does! I hope my kid has a better year this year b/c in one year she went from loving school to hating it. She will be in the fourth grade this year.

I asked her this question about a month ago: Why do you go to school? Her response: To pass the TAKS test. Breaks my heart.

She does not need that test rammed down her throat. All of those worksheets that she brings home makes me hurt for all the children who might be creative or gifted but Decatur left those children behind a long time ago. Oh, and cscope? What a rotten egg that is!

epic said...

We have to have a way to hold schools accountable-but I do wish there were a way to factor in some parental accountability...

Anonymous said...

Texas is no greater state than any other. To say otherwise is rather belligerent.

Anonymous said...

Cscope.... - RIDICULOUS!!!

Anonymous said...

10:47 -
1) I was being ironic; I was responding to the guy that was blaming the Obama administration for the way the TAKS tests were evaluated. So I was using the the widely known (& used) moniker for Texas to say that if there is a problem, it is a home grown one.

2) Even if I was 100% serious & I said "the great state of Texas," it does not imply that other states are not also great. If I wanted to imply what you read into it, I would have said, "the greatEST state - Texas."

Sometimes it's hard to read just what's on the page and not what's in your head, but that's the only fair way to comprehend what some stranger on the Internet is saying.

Anonymous said...

It is great to know that you people have all the answers.

Anonymous said...

I haven't made my mind up yet on C-scope but I did notice Decatur's test scores look better this year.

Anonymous said...

10:04
The scores for every school across the state look better. It's what happens when they lower the passing standard.

Anonymous said...

It sounds like there are lots of complaints about how the passing rates have changed and the standards have been lowered, blah, blah blah.

It also sounds like a districts like Decatur is at fault for their ratings. Seriously? The ratings are what they are.

Jerry Howard seems to be critical of the scores and applauds a district like Slidell or the other districts, but he has contradicted himself with his comments. According to his argument Slidell doesn't deserve the ranking of Exemplary since they achieved it from TPM only.

The ratings are what they are. Those who deserve to celebrate increased ratings should celebrate. You have to celebrate what ever improvements you have at some point otherwise why bother.