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Belated Republican Hypocrisy Exposed

WASHINGTON - Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich was having an extramarital affair even as he led the charge against President Clinton over the Monica Lewinsky affair, he acknowledged in an interview with a conservative Christian group.

"The honest answer is yes," Gingrich, a potential 2008 Republican presidential candidate, said in an interview with Focus on the Family founder James Dobson to be aired Friday, according to a transcript provided to The Associated Press. "There are times that I have fallen short of my own standards. There's certainly times when I've fallen short of God's standards."

(Yahoo News Story.)


wordkyle said...

"The president of the United States got in trouble for committing a felony in front of a sitting federal judge," the former Georgia congressman said of Clinton's 1998 House impeachment on perjury and obstruction of justice charges." Hmmm...and Scooter Libby was convicted of a felony for pretty much the same thing.

This is making headlines nine years later? Smells of political assassination.

You might not want to push this "hypocrisy" angle too hard -- consider Al Gore's use of electricity 20x the average family's while claiming that very action by others will destroy the planet. Or Pelosi's "ethical Congress," starting with $90,000 in bribe money found in Democrat William Jefferson's freezer - the same William Jefferson serving on the House Ways and Means committee. There's enough mud to sling all around.

The only reason Liberals feel comfortable calling Conservatives "hypocrites" is because Liberals have no standards of morality against which they can be judged.

Anonymous said...

That's very funny. I get a big kick out of these kinds of stories, esp. when I've been drinking.

Anonymous said...

But never lied to the grand jury or had others lie on his behalf or obstruct justice.

Anonymous said...

wordkyle...that is the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard.

Anonymous said...

Thats why he resigned as Speaker if you can remember.

Anonymous said...

wordkyle, you really must have excrement where your brains should normally be.

"you might not want to push this "hypocrisy" angle"? why? because others might be guilty of the same kind of hypocrisy? since when is that a good reason not to call someone out for their crimes or sins?

what do you call this? the "yeah, but i'm not the first or the last to do something this hypocritical" defense??? how on god's green earth does this make it ok???

the fact that you are trying to defend this says quite a lot about you, and how your party allegiance has caused you to become an intellectually dishonest person.

can you not put down your "Go Republicans!" banner for one minute to acknowledge wrongdoing? what has gone wrong with your little brain?

Anonymous said...

I wish we all could put down our "Go Republican" and "Go Demorcrat" banners. Neither party serves the masses well. Each party has became so polarized that they only represent a small faction of our population respectively. Republicans aline themselves with the Christian right-wing; which if given total power would repress us back to the days of the Quaker(I think they are trying to do this to us now). Last time I checked we are not a country of just Christians. Democrats aline themselves with the Big Government welfare hand-out left. Let's give everyone who signs up welfare money, with little accountability and at the end of the day we will smoke a big fat dube and have a good laugh. I do not really want to aline myself with either of these parties and I do not really feel totally free in only having 2 real(an independant does not have a chance) choices come election time.

Gleemonex said...

This is a phenomenon known as IOIYAR, or "It's Okay If You're A Republican." You see it a lot from these bloviating gasbags.

wordkyle said...

Anon 9:51 am: Nice try. Let's see, I'm trying to defend his behavior ...where? Oh, that's right, nowhere.

What I am doing is attacking the idea of creating headlines out of something that happened eight years ago. The Liberal cry of "hypocrisy!" every time a Conservative stumbles is laughable.

Liberals reward their sinners. Ted Kennedy drove off a bridge while drunk and let a woman drown, and he's a Liberal icon. And how about that crowd of Democrat supporters that surrounded Clinton after his impeachment?

Do you remember the Congressman who had sex with a 17-year-old page? That would be Democrat Gerry Studds, who was reelected and served 14 more years before retiring with full benefits. Compare that with what happened to Mark Foley.

When you don't have any moral standards yourself, calling someone else a hypocrite is hypocritical in itself.

And 10:30 am: Cite some examples of how the "Christian right-wing" is repressing you back to the Quakers (who are still around.)

You guys make me laugh.

Anonymous said...

10:30 - many don't want to be aligned with either party because so much hyprocsity exists in both.

Likely this is why so many folks just don't go to the polls (check out the stats in Wise County - very dismal turnouts) -

And the rest of us just vote for the best of the worst.

How hypocritical is that?

HHL said...

There is no valid argument against this story being news.

The event may have occurred 8 years ago, but it wasn't known until now. Or at least he hadn't admitted it until now.

And he announced it in an interview. For the purposes of making it public so that it wouldn't be sprung on him during his upcoming presidential campaign. In other words, Gingrich himself wanted it to be news.

Of course, anyone who jumps on this and criticizes him is a "liberal", hates America, and is rooting for the terrorists to win.

HHL said...

And in the interest of getting our facts straight here, Libby's perjury came during questioning by the FBI and in front of a grand jury, in the course of a criminal investigation involving that holiest of holies (at least for Bush worshipers): national security.

Slick Willy committed his perjury during a deposition in a civil suit.

This is not to say that any kind of perjury isn't bad, and shouldn't be punished, but the two cases are hardly apples-to-apples.

And while I'm at it, just because someone's moral standards differ from your own doesn't mean they don't have any.

Besides, though it could be argued otherwise, I think this discussion is really about ethics, not morals. I believe this distinction is important because one is subjective and the other is objective.

Gleemonex said...

Wordkyle, you're totally right. As a Democrat, I have no moral standards whatsoever. Why, I robbed two convenience stores, killed an old lady, abducted a child, and smoked a big old fatty just on my way to work today. Later I'm going to do some embezzling, have a four-way with two Rottweilers and a garden gnome, marry my 11-year-old girl cousin, and set some fires. And then I'm gonna donate to Ted Kennedy's reelection campaign, and call the old bugger up to see if he and Laura Bush wanna get trashed, go cruisin, and run over some pedestrians with me. Anybody wanna come with?

Anonymous said...

The only reason Liberals feel comfortable calling Conservatives "hypocrites" is because they f***ing ARE!

And come on, can you come up with something better than "Liberals have no standards of morality." That is just stupid.

wordkyle said...

Okay. When was the last time that a Liberal was vilified, resigned in disgrace (or was fired), and his fellow Liberals ostracized him for his behavior?

Okay, it was Joe Lieberman.

But before that?

Liberals get away with more abhorrent behavior than NBA players.

Anonymous said... need example of how we are being repressed? Ok well then here we go. Remember Nipplegate? Do you think the Clinton admin would have pressed the FCC as hard as the current Bush Admin. to levy fines on Viacom and press bills through the House and Senate to raise FCC fines by an astronomical percentage Look at the fallout of a nipple being shown on TV; companies were broken, up major fines were levied, people were fired that were not directly involved, Bubba the Love Sponge. The Bush Admin. payed more attention to one little nipple than all of the Hurricane Katrina aftermath. I am not saying nipple showing at a family event was appropriate but the aftermath of Nipplegate was a little ridiculous. This is an example of being repressed as a society when I think most people would rather not be censored by their govt. (Talking about the increase in censorship post Nipplegate and the reduction in our freedom of speech)

I know the Quakers are still around, and Ironically many of them today are agnostic and even atheist. When I said "days of the Quaker" I was referring to when their movement was strong and deeply tied to puritanistic Christian beliefs(also to what most peoples perception of the Quaker are), which are consequently repressing. Today their are relatively few Quakers out there and it looks like they have moved toward a more liberal path, which probably wouldn't be a bad idea for someone as anal-retentive as you.

Anonymous said...

Commenters on this blog are a prime example of why our government can't work together. They're so busy covering their asses by giving examples of what the other side is doing wrong they don't have the time, energy or inclination to do what they're hired to do. I'm sick of it. It's why there is such rampant voter apathy, what's the use, it'll be the same ol shit flinging over and over.

Anonymous said...

Yeah!!!! Wordpyle, oops, I mean Wordbyle, well darn this keyboard, Wordkyle is back spewing all his neocon rhetoric! Yippeeee!!!! Say man, how's that book coming along?

You know, you are right down there with Raygun in MY book!

Love, Anon 5:39 PMish

wordkyle said...

Anon 4:58: First, I don't think you know what anal-retentive means.

Second, I agree with you that the FCC overreacted to Janet Jackson. According to CBS, though, there was also the matter of Nicole Ritchie's use of the f-word and the sh-word on Fox television.

There was also the matter of the 200,000 letters of complaint the FCC received. Should they have ignored those?

"The powers that be -- the FCC and media execs who are too gunshy to show any guts -- need to be pulled back. While I don't want smut to show up unexpectedly on regular broadcasts, all the flavor and originality is being removed from our programming. What used to be harmless, or at worst, suggestive is being banished by the FCC's heavy-handed tactics (or the threat of their use.) They need to ease off."

That's what I said two years ago about it. I still believe that. I also believe that Howard Stern was too nasty, and I'm sorry you miss "the Love Sponge."

You're right about one thing. The Clinton administration absolutely never denounced immorality, except in Republicans. They were immature children who reveled in what they could get away with, led by the Head Adolescent himself.

Was punishing the use of the F-word "repressing back to the Quakers?" Or just back to what most people consider decency?

As for the Bush admin and Katrina -- please. They gave the aftermath much more attention than the city fathers gave to prevention for thirty years prior.

wordkyle said...

Anon 5:38: Thanks for asking about the novel, I'm working on the second draft right now.

You should try the Fisher-Price keyboard, it may suit you better.

Say, did you ever figure out what "neocon" means?

Anonymous said...

Well, wordkyle is back biotch-slapping the liberals again. great reading! lol

Anonymous said...

Amen 5:15 - double Amen!

Those sitting at the tables to be sure we are in order to vote for some of those jerks (I am not impressed with some of them either).... should pass out clothespins for our noses.

We know why.

June FN Cleaver said...

I am NOT a Republican but the way people attack those that might be such as Wordkyle makes me rethink being a Democrat. If you are going to debate, do it with some class. He has his opinions and facts that support the way he feels. But these bitter attacks on someone just because they do no have the same ideology that you do is really low class. It makes me wonder why you align yourself with a party that used to be more synonymous with the word compassion.

wordkyle said...

5:15, 12;21, 10:30 et al: Newt Gingrich showed how politics can be returned (or "repressed," as 10:30 would say) back to an adult business conducted by adults.

Check out his recent debate with Mario Cuomo. I disagree with practically every position that Cuomo holds, but I admire him deeply for his willingness to engage in serious conversation about issues concerning the country.

So it's not all politicians who want to engage in petty mud-slinging.

(That standard, of course, does not apply to me. I'm not running for office, and consider debate in forums like this a barfight. You pull a knife, I pull out a gun. Play nice, and so will I.)

If you want a higher standard in political discourse, Newt Gingrich will show you the way.