Except for "From Dusk to Dawn," (which had Rodriguez and Tarantino to save it) "O Brother Where Art Thou" and "Three Kings," George Clooney has destroyed every other movie he's been in. He killed the Batman franchise until Christian Bale was able to revive it.Jennifer Lopez has the same ability -- which means that "Out of Sight" was doomed before it began.
I am shocked that you are not singing the praises of one of your fellow America hating libs. I figured that you all think that each other walks on water and does nothing wrong. I think anything with Clooney is a huge waste time. "Dusk 'til Dawn" was entertaining in spite of Clooney. O Brother is painful to watch (I hate anything from Hollywood that stereotypes Southerners as stupid). And I have yet to watch Three Kings (and hopefully it will never be forced on me) because Clooney is in it. As a matter of fact, the arrival of George Clooney on the ER series pretty much killed that for me, too. He needs to take acting classes, and otherwise keep his mouth shut about American foreign policy, or domestic policy for that matter.
WordKyle is a douche nozzle. Clooney has created one of the most rounded careers in recent memory. Oscar for Syriana. Wrote and Directed Good Night, Good Luck to 5 Oscar Noms. Headlined the Oceans 11 franchise to the tune of close to a billion dollars worldwide (box office only.) Out of Sight is widely regarded as saving the career of director Steven Soderbergh and casting Clooney as a viable leading man.I haven't seen "Clayton" but mark it, Clooney will receive an Oscar nom.
I disagree, wordkyle. I liked Out of Sight & Oceans 11, 12 & 13 were great fun to watch. They were all box office successes too, so I'm not alone in that opinion.
wordkyle didn't like it because it didn't have billo or rush in it.
Sorry kiddies, didn't like Syriana, any of the Oceans, nor will I see Clayton because of Clooney. I wish I could say it was because of his politics, but it's because of his wooden acting. (I'd want to see the totals before I believe Oceans ### have done $1B. A quick addition of the numbers on IMDB came up a bit short. If they have, credit the beefcake factor.)Out of Sight is the only movie I can remember abandoning after only thirty minutes. Clooney was such a stiff that I couldn't take another second.You want to see Clooney in action? Watch the outtakes from "Dusk till Dawn" where he can't get the lines right. Acting classes can't help him.If he weren't as handsome as he is, he'd be another wannabe waiting tables. His looks have taken him where he didn't have the talent to go.
"I am shocked that you are not singing the praises of one of your fellow America hating libs. I figured that you all think that each other walks on water and does nothing wrong."Comments like this are why this conservative soul would never choose to be associated with the present conservative movement.
Crude -Because Clooney's politics are the opposite of yours, he needs to keep his mouth shut? I thought we all had the right to petition our government for a redress of grievances when we disagree with the direction that government is taking us. Thank goodness for the foresight of the Framers of the constitution, to protect us from the likes of you. It's hardly freedom of speech if you are only allowed to speak in agreement with the government. That falls under dictatorship.As far as your opinion of Clooney's acting ability, well.... that's your opinion. Obviously, given his success at the box office, many have a different opinion than you. That's allowed, you know. THey don't have to shut their mouths about that either.And wordie, thanks for letting us know you only have to watch 30 minutes of a movie to be able to slam it. Have you even seen the Oceans movies? You're such a curmudgeon.
who cares if he can act ... he's so pretty
The fact that members of the modern "rabid conservativism" movement (not to be confused with the traditional philosophical conservative movement) automatically pronounce all "libs" to be "America hating" and assume that they all worship one another is substantial proof that the "rabid conservatism" movement is propelled by obsession rather than rational thought.
Those with fame and fortune seem to think that because they more readily have the ear of the public their opinions matter more than the opinions of the rest of the general population. Their arrogance, elitism and air of superiority and entitlement piss me off. I think they should shut up and sing or act or whatever particular "gift" they possess and stay out of politics. They're entertainers not political scientists, I don't care what party they're affiliated with.
10:11, I understand your sentiment, but it's not the way the world works. The opinions of celebrities do have more influence because people listen to them, whether they should or not. Don't blame the celebrity, blame the public that demands to know what Lindsay Lohan thinks about Iraq.Honestly, can you really say that celebrities have opinions that are any more ridiculous than those expressed by the people that write on this blog? "American hating libs..." "...George Clooney has destroyed every other movie he's been in."Why do we feel that we need such extremes to make our points? Rational discourse may be at an all time low.
To 10:11...Well stated!BRAVO!
Libs = BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHSpend all of their time and energy defending movie stars and zero time making policy that impacts anyone, including themselves as evidenceed by the current Democratic controlled Congress that can't even agree among themselves and has as low an approval rating as the president (although you never hear about this on the news) they are so intent upon bashing at every opportunity.Look towards yourselves before criticizing others. Be part of the solution instead part of the problem. You complained about the Conservative leadership of this country for 6 years and now that you have some control, what are you doing with it? Showing your true colors apparently.
Why should I be limited to "rational discourse?" I offered an opinion of Clooney's ability to destroy a movie. It communicated what I wanted to say quickly and clearly. He has offered the opinion himself that he destroyed the Batman franchise.I even gave the man props for three movies that I enjoyed. How much more "reasonable" do I have to be?10:11 - I agree with part of what you say, regarding the arrogance and elitism of celebrities. However, celebrities have every right to use their spotlight to speak their mind, but their ideas should not be given more credibility simply by virture of their celebrity. By extension, lawyers, insurance agents, and others should not be given extra political credibility by virtue of their professions (unless it pertains to their particular area of expertise.) Their ideas should be able to stand by themselves.Unfortunately, we live in a society where the "cult of personality" seems to rule all else. Some politicians (read "Clinton") are now given rock star status in certain circles, with about the same level of responsibility for their actions as rock musicians.
wordkyle, your statement was not written as an opinion...it was written as a fact. I saw no "in my opinion" or "I think" or "may have" or "possibly could" or anything else that would convey it was your opinion rather than a certain fact. I find (i.e. "my opinion is") such certitude inappropriate.It bothers me more when I hear the same certitude from our political leaders (and you on occassion) regarding complex domestic and international issues. A black & white analysis is not always necessary. Just because someone is on the "other side" of an issue doesn't mean that they can't appreciate your side or the basis for your opinion. We do not have to label those on the "other side" as idiots, war-mongers, America haters, or some other pejorative label in order to make our points.That's what I'm talking about when I bemoan the loss of rational discourse. BTW I think Chris O'Donnel shares in the Batman & Robin debacle and I believe that Val Kilmer had moved things in that direction already. On the other hand, I thought Good Night & Good Luck was solid, while Clooney should probably apologize for Ocean's 12.
Y'all are boring me. Can we talk about Matty Mac now?P.S. Crud likes B-movies - talk about a GIANT WASTE OF TIME. I'm sure many of GC's movies might be destined for B-Movie heaven, so I can't believe Crud's criticizing him.
1:13 - I can't believe that I'm having to explain this, but I will. I wrote the original comments in such a way that it would be clear to a not-very-but-somewhat discerning reader that I was offering an exuberant opinion of George Clooney's ability to destroy my enjoyment of a movie. I honestly didn't care if undiscerning readers got the point or not. I wasn't writing for them.It is actually an insult to a discerning reader to constantly qualify one's remarks unnecessarily, when the context of the statement makes it clear that what one is offering is, indeed, an opinion, as opposed to a statement of fact.Your second paragraph is a collection of unrelated aphorisms. I maintain that 1) It IS sometimes appropriate to analyze things as black and white; e.g., I am completely against terrorists killing me and my family; 2) I argue against "complex domestic and international issues" when arguments such as "Bush wants to take away children's healthcare" "Republicans want to starve your children" and the ever-popular "Bush is an uneducated/ignorant/stupid/unintelligent buffoon" are used. My first attempt is always to try to discuss the facts and merits of the matter. When it degenerates into violence, well...3) I disagree with you on a point. With very few exceptions, Liberals are NOT able to see any side of an argument other than their own. They can not see the merits of a dissenting argument nor appreciate any other side. If so, they would not have to degenerate into the namecalling, etc that you profess to dislike.As for your opinions about the movies, that's fine; I disagree. Your qualifying phrases add nothing to the impact of your opinion.All in all, I agree with your opinion on the need for productive debate versus unlistening namecalling. When those who disagree with me begin by calling me a "douche nozzle" it makes me doubt that productive debate is possible.
Wordkyle & fellow conservatives,I knew this would turn into a debate on political beliefs. I find it funny that the right screams from the hills that actors should shut their mouths yet one of their own top canidates just stepped off the set of Law and Order.The conservative way is dying a much deserved death. A false war, spending out of control and front and foremost a loss of touch with the public. This isn't a rah rah cheer for liberals or democrats either. But this was intended to be a dig at WordKyle's obvious naivete toward film in general. He wants to watch some outtakes on a From Dusk Til' Dawn DVD from 12 years ago and make calls on an actor. You're a tool, WordKyle. Simple as that. But if I would have just looked at your blog with your defense of the pill-popping addict Rush Limbaugh, then I could make that estimation.Clooney rules!!!!
Liberals:The very fact that you're having to defend George f-ing Clooney should be a clue about how f'ed up your political values are... why don't you satand up for a real issue? Just pick one for Christ's sake!! ANYTHING!!! Stand for something!!
7:44 - Thanks for your opinions. I'll give them all the consideration they deserve. (BTW, the current bid on eBay is $50,300 for the letterthe 41 Democrat Senators sent to Clear Channel to try to shut Rush down. Imagine US Senators using the power of their office to try to silence a private citizen! The man does have style.)
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