The Campaign For DA

3.14.2015

Star-Telegram Fires First Shot At The New Tarrant County DA



Story.

Let's be honest about the elephant in the room: That lady is a nutcase.  She's like an angry and unhappy Ted Cruz or Dan Patrick on meth yet with ultimate power. You should all be scared. Make no mistake about it, she holds the most powerful position in Tarrant County with the capability to destroy lives. Ironically, the article (which only scratches the surface) concerns how she is treating her staff with an iron glove.  If the article accurately represents her attitude towards those who she should care about, I fear for those who she is prosecuting.

The stories are legendary about how, as a judge, she harshly treated prosecutors, defense lawyers, and even spectators in her court. Until recently I thought it was limited to that. Then I learned she treated her court staff just as harshly. That's mind blowing. Those who work for you protect you. I'd love to see how she treats a waiter.

Side note: Many years ago I was talking to a former Tarrant County assistant DA who told me she had an upcoming probation revocation hearing in Wilson's court. "It's a true-but" she said. I replied with a confused, "What?" "It's a true-but. You know, the allegations in the motion to revoke the probation are true but there are some reasons why he shouldn't be revoked," came the response.  I asked, "Does that ever work in that court?" Her response: "Not really. Unless the defendant is young, white and female." I turned to her in amazement but she was distracted. She had uttered those words casually and with no axe to grind.

I can't tell you how badly I feel for every prosecutor in her office. I suspect that most would leave but because of the ridiculous glut of lawyers out there, they simply have nowhere to go. But for those who have already walked out, you will never regret the decision. You can always look in the mirror and say, "I refused to be bullied  by her."

Wilson's campaigns as a judge always amused me. Her signs would say, "A tough Republican!" Politics aside, shouldn't that read, "A tough and fair Republican"?

Being a bad person and horrible boss is one thing, prosecuting people is another. We live in an age where we are finally discovering how wrongful convictions can occur because of prosecutors who care more about themselves than doing the right thing and seeking justice.  I said last year that Sharen Wilson  has the potential to be the re-incarnation of the now disgraced former Dallas DA Henry Wade. I just pray that every media outlet monitors her every move. Kudos to the Star-Telegram for at least firing the first shot.

193 comments:

Anonymous said...

I fear many in law enforcement have adopted a us against the world attitude and think you're guilty because we say you are. Those that think this is okay speak to me after you or someone you know has to deal with the system.

Anonymous said...

Seriously? A newspaper fired a gun at her? How?

Anonymous said...

The name "christy jack" rings a bell.

Anonymous said...

I have a friend of a friend...and it is every bit as bad inside the DA office as that article describes.

Baylor Too said...

How much do ADA's get paid these days?

It was really shitty for them to fire the long-time investigator that only needed 15 months to retire. Surely they could have found another position for him.

It sure is nice to be self-employed.

Anonymous said...

How was Henry wade disgraced?

Anonymous said...

One word describes it all. Republican.

Anonymous said...

I have heard that some in the defense bar upon learning that potential client had a case in her court would:

1. Refuse to represent
2. Quote a fee so ridiculously high that no one in their right mind would pay it.

Barry may be right...she may get her ass run out of town because of an ethical violation. She should have on the case Kathy Lowthorp tried in her court.

Anonymous said...

3:39 wrote:
How was Henry Wade disgraced?

Henry Wade had a long and distinguished career. Barry Green is just jealous or stupid or both. Green couldn't cut it in Dallas so he went to Fort Worth. He couldn't cut the mustard in Cowtown either so he went back home to Wise County with his tail between his legs.

B.S. Green, and the BS doesn't stand for Barry's Scribblings, goes off on a shrill hysterical diatribe against Sharen Wilson who has only been in office for two months or so. Un-f*cking-beliveable.

Goober said...

I respect your rant about a loose cannon judge/DA, but how about a little acknowledgment of the the historic event that happened 50 years ago today. Besides, it will provide fodder for all the WC red neck racist that post on this blog.

Anonymous said...

I actually don't mind being called a WC redneck racist because you and I both know I can and will kick your ass from here till Sunday (next week) if you pop off like that in front of me. By the way, this redneck has three college degrees and moved out of Dallas to get away from you yankees.

Also, I'm not protecting Green here as he can protect himself. That creature in the DA's office will get hers sooner or later because that's the way shiite like that works out. And it's not b/c she's a republican. Democrats can be B*tches as well (and usually are).

Anonymous said...

Sorry 5:40, you either have an axe to grind with Barry or you don't know your North Texas history. Henry Wade was the definition of a hard nosed old style Texas DA. He often decided whether his gut told him you were guilty, then set about finding (making up?) the "facts" to bear that out. And if you were black or latin, kiss your a** goodbye. He considered his judgment more important than any rendered by a judge. Where I get my info? Countless stories on Wade told by relatives on both side of the legal dividing line (criminal & up-standing citizen), including several in law enforcement, who worked with or experienced him. Barry is on target with his analysis about Henry Wade.

DF Texas Troubadour

Anonymous said...

I do not ever remember hearing a good word about her that was good when she was a Judge. All the defense lawyers in Tarrant County hated being in her Court. I'm glad I don't have to go to Court in Tarrant County any more. I much prefer Wise County and points north. You are right on about Ms. Wilson. She is a witch.

Anonymous said...

For some reason, in politics, if nobody likes you, it's just a matter of time before you're taken down or thrown out.

Anonymous said...

3:39 & 5:40 - You're not from around here, are you?

I tend to call out this blog's host for a lot of his rants and editorializing, but regarding HW, he's correct.

HW may have been quite respected in his day, and held the record of longest serving DA, but it has now long been established that something was rotten in Denmark on a ton of his office's convictions - a fact which still keeps Innocence Project lawyers busy, some 28 years after his retirement.

Anonymous said...

Welcome to the real world you bunch of p*ssies. Workin all the way to 5:30. What a bunch of babies.

You don't like it? Get another job!

Fewer managers...more lawyers with actual case loads...being in the office when citizens can have access.

I haven't heard the bad part yet.

Maybe a bunch of these quitters can move up to Wise County and start competing with Barry?

You all wonder why lawyers are disrespected.

Anonymous said...

Skippy prays?

Anonymous said...

50 shades of Harris County DA's office when Pat Lykos got elected. She decimated that office --- took 4 years to undo her damage with an election.

Anonymous said...

Next thing you know she will be randomly dismissing cases just because she can. I wonder what the hard working law enforcement officers will have to say when they learn she can and will dismiss cases they put their blood and sweat into. Some even risking their lives on traffic stops to protect us. The mid-cities voters who kept her on the bench and into Mr. Curry's former seat need to take note.

Anonymous said...

Not all of us working for this DA feel the way the star-telegram and this blog have portrayed the situation. We serve the people of Tarrant County. The office always opened at 7:45, so that's nothing new. Hourly staff had to be in the office at 7:45. Ms. Wilson just reminded the attorneys that we must abide by the same rules. For those of us who came to work on time, no big deal. For those who were used to doing the slow roll into the office around 9am...it's been a shock to the system. And for those of us who routinely carried heavy case loads and stayed well after the previous closing time of 4:45...again, no big deal to work until 5:30 or later. We did it anyway. And she recognizes that. But, for the ADAs who were used to walking out around 4:00 p.m...well, that's no longer an option. There are some complainers, to be sure. Just don't attribute that negativity to all of us.

Anonymous said...

Standing Ovation 10:35 AM

That sheds a whole new light on things...

Thank you honorable person for your service

Well at least perhaps one very small place in the justice industry someone actually is pretending they are spending their own money....in the real world that is called impressive

Someone needs to take a picture of this

Fear mongering in 3, 2, 1

Anonymous said...

@10:35

Sharen, stop self promoting. We all know that it is you.

DF Joe Shannon

Anonymous said...

i view her as a former defendent. My attorney asked me what really went down when I was arrested? I asked what he meant? And he says to me, "Sharen Wilson is going easy on you. And she doesn't go easy on anyone." Well now my curiosty is really up because I am a white female, lol. Was she partial to young white females or what? Eeew! Is she in the closet bull dike? What? Someone tell me please?

Anonymous said...

11:11 said:
3:39 & 5:40 - You're not from around here, are you?

HW may have been quite respected in his day, and held the record of longest serving DA, but it has now long been established that something was rotten in Denmark on a ton of his office's convictions - a fact which still keeps Innocence Project lawyers busy, some 28 years after his retirement.

I'm a 6th generation Texan who is curious about the Wade allegations. Please direct me to a link where your assertions about Wade are laid out. Wikipedia not helpful.
I have had no interaction with Tarrant or Dallas offices of DA.
Respectfully, 3:39 poster

Anonymous said...

12:14 - Don't misunderstand, the intent of the comment was not to specifically disparage HW, only to answer the question posed (yours) about how he was disgraced, and to rebut 5:40's ad hominem on the bloghost, at least to the extent that BSG's statement had merit.

Like you, I've had no interaction with the DCDA's office, and met HW only once - at a school function (he was acquainted with one of the parents). My experience with the TCDA office is limited to juror duty during the JS era. And, other than this blog's 'scribblings' on the subject, I have no particular opinion of SW.

One could argue that 'disgraced' is too harsh an adjective. One could argue that having many important cases overturned is a function of his long tenure, changes in the culture (whether good or bad), and technological advancements. Fair enough.

Nonetheless, 30 seconds of Googling will produce, in addition to Wikipedia, enough articles to allow (I didn't say prove) BSG's use of the comparison in the original post.







Anonymous said...

12:14,
I'm about to watch The Thin Blue Line.

Maybe that will tell us something...at least from a liberal perspective? I'll make a decision after that.

My guess is, since he was against abortion he will he hated for eternity.

Baylor Too said...

Barry, you complain about too many lawyers---how about too many prosecuting attorney? According to that story, the Tarrant Co. DA's Office had 153 full-time prosecutors. Is that too many? Too few? We can't tell just by the numbers, but I'm sure that DA's offices are just like police departments, fire departments, and just about any other governmental office----they expand and expand and the work they do expands to keep the number of employees they have busy. They could cut the numbers in half, if they had the will, and it would mean that maybe they would prosecute the important crimes and let the junk stuff (like the police department that set up the prostitution sting) fall by the wayside.

I don't disagree that this lady is a horrible manager, but that doesn't mean she is wrong when she says the office is too big and too costly.

Anonymous said...

What's funny is the hypocrisy of SW and her new office. She stated during her campaign that she was going to clean up the DA's office and put an end to the good ol' boy system. Instead she has surrounded herself with a bunch of old, white good ol' boys since she took office. In fact, at an office wide staff meeting on January 2nd both her new criminal and civil chiefs greeted everyone by telling inappropriate sexual jokes! That's the way to make female employees feel good.

It also doesn't help morale when prosecutors are told every day that they are easily replaceable. That's not how you build loyalty.

Anonymous said...

You're one stupid SONOFABITCH Anonymous!!!

Anonymous said...

Yes

Anonymous said...

I too am an employee with 10:35am, having been in the employ of DAs Curry, Shannon and now Wilson. The people who love the job and are passionate about their work don't get all caught up in the "whining" that seems to be going on in the Star article. If you ask people in the office, they will tell you that one of the people no longer working in the office was a "10a -3p" worker, another tried about 4 cases in 4 years and hardly worked at all, and another no longer had the "influence" they once had. But to say that the office is worse off is an insult to those of us who actually WORK, work hard, try difficult cases that are not lay down cases a monkey could try, and seek justice for the citizens of Tarrant County. Investigator Hubbard was the only one who worked hard and whose departure is a loss. Everybody else, including the Tarrant County DAs office, will be just fine.

Anonymous said...

Ask the former Mrs. Mike Parish why she has been unable to hire a chief of staff?

Ask former Mrs. Parish why her PIO left at the end of the former Mrs. Parish's first week. Why that position has not been filled since then?

This is an office that typically would have hundreds of applications for each position because of Mr. Curry. Now slots go unfilled and must be reposted.

Someone should ask her how much money she is spending for remodeling her office space? I hear they are sound proofing the walls so that it is easier on others when she screams at staff that are ordered to her office. The screams can be heard all the way down the hall. No wonder she prohibits non-staff from being in the people's office without an escort. The trail of tears is beginning to wear into the carpet.

Anonymous said...

So, Barry, what is your ax to grind with Sharen Wilson? Hyperbolic labels like "nutcase" don't sound like an objective analysis from an attorney's standpoint. Why not pull back the curtain and tell us what's really going on here?

Let's be honest about the other elephant in the room: Was there another organization in the world in more dire need of shaking up than the Tarrant DA office? Her predecessor was running a three-ring circus of a sh*t show and cost the county a lot of money in a sexual harassment mess. He got to keep his job for the rest of his term and, if you think he was keeping a tight ship following that loss of credibility, you're the nutcase.

I was on a jury in her court back in 2001 and found her nothing but pleasant. It was a crappy time to be on a jury - started on September 10, 2001 and ended on September 12, and, amid bomb threats at the courthouse and scattered jurors in the age before everyone had a cell phone, she kept us calm and kept the trial moving quickly.

Anonymous said...

Wow, let the lady do her job! I don't work in the DA's office but neither do many of the people that are commenting and if you do and you have a grievance than file with your HR dept. To only print one side of the story to me is wrong. Just my opinion but if you work hard and do your job, being to work on time and working while your there shouldn't be a problem. Just saying.I run my own business and I expect my employees to work a full day and I would expect nothing less from our govt. employees.

Anonymous said...

One way to settle the work hours, pull the county garage and security door access logs for the entire staff. Then pull it for DA Wilson.

Ask why if you are gone from your desk for more than 15 mins you must sign out with your section leader. Heaven help you if you have an upset stomach one day. Her leadership skills are taken straight out of the U.S.S.R..

She has a "Volunteer" instead of a Chief of Staff. This volunteer is conducting business of behalf of the DA using a GMAIL account. Mrs. Clinton would be so proud to find this out. Even the interns of the past that are now banned by her had county accounts for the same reason Mrs. Clinton is being taken to task for today. Surely they have attended some sort of training from the county concerning this. Isn't the new Civil Chief from the AG's office?

Star-Telegram needs to start issuing the open records requests tonight.

How many more will leave this week?

Goober said...

Just a friendly reminder to all of ragging on Barry; for at least two and I think three terms, Barry was a DA. Before that he worked as an ADA, so I would guess he has a little more insight than say 99% of the people posting on here. I never went through the legal system when he was in office, but he tried some high profile cases and had a high conviction percentage w/o cases being overturned. If I were some of you, I'd give the guy the benefit of a doubt and see I couldn't gain a little legal education (even though I know that last suggestion is wasted on 98% of you)

Anonymous said...

Does one really expect a lawyer to follow the rules that apply to hourly worker? The rules are for the chumps and suckers.

Double Fake Hillary R. Clinton - Hillary 2016

Anonymous said...

@6:12

Christy Jack is not a loss?
Letty Martinez?
Sean Colston?
Jack Strickland?
Betty Arvin?

Fine, the point is taken that there are many hard working people left in the office. But it is disingenuous to pretend that Wilson's personality that is brash (putting it kindly) is conducive to a good work environment. Motivation by fear is the worst kind and that is who she is.

Anonymous said...

No, it isn't a loss. It is called change. And anyone who can't deal with change should leave. She isn't holding anybody hostage. Everyone has the free will to work or not work in a certain environment. The problem with the Star article, as with most articles, is that it doesn't tell you everythin

Anonymous said...

She has already lost two murder cases this year. One just this past Friday by her hand picked chief in the 372nd.

How many ADAs are left in the trial section with recent 1st chair death penalty experience representing the State and not the Defense.

Go back and read the ST endorsement Ms. Wilson. There are two very large sides to this political machine known as SW. The one the voters see at their meetings and the one that everyone in criminal law knows. The editors at the ST knew the real SW, but did not invoke the courage to speak the truth at the time. May God help us for the next four years.

Anonymous said...

All of the comments above solidifies one thing in my mind: positions of government affecting our criminal justice system should not be partisan. People vote based on the (R) or the (D) behind their name while knowing nothing about the person themselves. Everyone should think long and hard and be an informed voter BEFORE they vote.

Anonymous said...

1. A not guilty on a murder is not uncommon.
2. Yes, there are still attorneys in the office with 1st chair death penalty experience.
.

Anonymous said...

@9:58
I doubt you know your head from your ass. Please tell us "everything"

Anonymous said...

@10:10
Truth. The ST chicken shitted out on that one. When an endorsement is labeled with caution, look out.

Anonymous said...

I laugh at you people..."Better call Saul"

Anonymous said...

@10:40 I love it when people resort to foul talk instead of speaking with some intellect. If you'd like to know everything, try coming to the courthouse and seeing for yourself. I know what goes on there. I work there. But if you want to know, the courtrooms are all open to the public. Come on down sometime.

Anonymous said...

I agree with you 10:23. A partisan DA, Judge, etc is bad for the Justice center. We just need a good candidate regardless of the letter behind their name. Many are probably too young to remember that Curry was a democrat before he was a Republican. Proof that the party line didn't make a damn bit of difference. Curry was a good DA. Period.

Anonymous said...

@10:35 am & 6:12 pm: Thank you for giving a different perspective. What the enforced work-hour rules has done is to put an end to different rules for different people. There are attorneys who had not worked a full work week (7:45-4:45) in years prior to January 1, 2015.

@6:19 pm: Why do you call her Mrs. Parish (sic) since they have been divorced for many years. Plus, it wasn't Ms. Wilson who provided cover for Mr. Parrish's behavior so he could do their dirty work.

@9:22 pm: Some people on your list are a loss, but not everyone.

Anonymous said...

Her reputation speaks for itself!

When peers steer clear, there's a reason.

Nazi employers and leaders just make more Nazis...

Anonymous said...

wake up....if sharEn wilson were a true conservative she would have term limited herself a longtime ago...meanwhile her GOVERNMENT TAXPAYER SUPPORTED PENSION grows...somehow the small government principles espoused by the GOP do not apply to her.

Yours Truy,

T. J. Snodgrass

Anonymous said...

This is how you write an email....blah blah blah

T. J. Snodgrass

Anonymous said...

For all of you sharEn wilson apologisits...saying sharEn Wilson is nice to you is like George W saying that he looking into Putin's eye and was able to get a sense of his soul...we all know how that turned out...wake up

Yours Truly,

T. J. Snodgrass

Anonymous said...

Worst. RTG. EVAR.

Anonymous said...

Henry Wade is considered to be disgraced only by those who think it's wrong to convict innocent people of serious crimes (google Lenell Geter or Randall Dale Adams if you need an introduction to Wade's resume'). Former prosecutors who took seriously the oath to do justice (rather than just to convict every person ever arrested) are notoriously disgusted by the win-at-all-costs attitude of the Wade-era District Attorney's Office, revealed through the numerous exonerations during the last DA's term.

For those who think it's ok for innocent people to go to prison, especially if they are black, Henry Wade was a great American.

John said...

Bud Kennedy posted on FB about your Sharen Wilson post
https://www.facebook.com/bud.kennedy

Anonymous said...

Just like Ronald Williamson and Dennis fritz, Randall Adams was hanging out with criminals. That was the life they led. No one had a good alibi and had reputations of being the bad guy.
You can expect to be blamed for something if you hang out with bad people. Your mama told you that.

I have a hard time having sympathy for a known criminal getting sentence for something that their criminal partner did. Especially in the Adams case.

Dennis Fritz may be an exception. But either way, the Ada, Ok PD made Wade look like small potatoes. Read The Innocent Man by john Grisham.

Anonymous said...

8:38 nailed it

Anonymous said...

Having been around the courthouse for several years, I have my own opinions about the people involved. Like many people,there are many things I like about Sharen, but other things I do not. She can come across as very mean spirited. She took perverse pleasure in playing Christmas music on her boom box in the courtroom while sending people to the pen. Highly unprofessional at best, sick at worst.
Some of the right people were fired, some not. Others who were not fired, should have been. But she seems to take pride in ruining the lives of some people, like it is sport shooting. She has surrounded herself with "yes" men, who are now going to protect their jobs. Pity the fool who expresses a contrary opinion.
Sharen had more than her fair share of days as a judge when she certainly did not work 8-5,the hours the courthouse is open. When her child was young, she did not hesitate to take off work to attend to the child. But now she sets a different standard for those who work for her. (As a side note, I wish our elected judges would work a full day. The courthouse opens at 8AM, not 9:30.)
Morale in the DA's office is very low. Negative reinforcement will not work in the long term. For now, the beatings will continue until morale improves.

Denney Crane said...

I have to follow this thread to the ends of the earth.

Getting follow-up comments by email is most excellent!

Anonymous said...

Two of Wilson's biggest supporters have posted a comment here, as is their right. Truth is, though, easily 90% of the people who work in the DA's office DESPISE Wilson. Care to dispute that, Wilson supporters?

Does anyone care to dispute that a very high percentage of the county's criminal judges strongly dislike Wilson? Does anyone care to dispute that she is disliked by a very high percentage of defense attorneys?

The truth is, no one likes her and no one respects the way she treats people. She has perhaps mastered the skill of getting herself elected, but I'm not sure that makes her qualified to run the TC DA's office. Actually, it doesn't.

In short, she sucks.

Anonymous said...

"Morale in the DA's office is very low. Negative reinforcement will not work in the long term. For now, the beatings will continue until morale improves."

This exactly.

It is difficult to explain in a blog comment section just how bad morale is. Larry Moore is left doing the job that was formerly done by several people, and for good reason. It's too much for one person. He's overwhelmed and quite obviously stressed to his limit. Moore is extremely obese and quite old. I can't imagine that he's doing something that is good for his health and well-being.

Claiming that the DA's office needs to be more like civil firms and then forcing senior personnel to metaphorically punch at time clock is a joke.

Anonymous said...

Now THIS is entertainment. Politics at its best. Let's get back to the business of holding people who are responsible for criminal conduct in Tarrant County, shall we?

Anonymous said...

7:43 PM

Does that include the new DA?

Anonymous said...

The thing that Wilson supporters fail to acknowledge is that the increased hours and mandatory CLEs on Saturdays come with no extra increase in benefits. There is no salary increase or increase in any sort of compensation. I guarantee that all of her defenders and friends who have been commenting on these articles would be livid if they were forced to extend their hours and work weekends with no difference in compensation.

Anonymous said...

So we're now criticizing Larry Moore's obesity? Okay.

Fakename McCourthouse said...

"The thing that Wilson supporters fail to acknowledge is that the increased hours and mandatory CLEs on Saturdays come with no extra increase in benefits. There is no salary increase or increase in any sort of compensation. I guarantee that all of her defenders and friends who have been commenting on these articles would be livid if they were forced to extend their hours and work weekends with no difference in compensation."

She's saying that no one gets a raise this year. Don't leave that out.

Anonymous said...

In that pic her neck looks like if she put her thumb in her mouth and blew her neck would expand out like a bullfrog.

Anonymous said...

Mandatory Saturday CLEs were the norm for the Tarrant County DAs Office well into the late 1990s. Also, the attorneys were allowed to take flex time on the Friday before or the Monday after the first Saturday CLE.

Anonymous said...

The morale is so bad that the office under sw is less efficient. People mostly spend their time dreaming of a new job.

T. J. Snodgrass

Anonymous said...

Christy J are you listening? We need you to restore effective and sane leadership to the DA's Office. if you run the entire office will support you?

T. J. Snodgrass

Anonymous said...

Well I am off to work maybe that nice lady can teach me how to write an email....

T. J. Snodgrass

fightingblind said...

What about those new hires she fired who'd been there less than 1 1/2 months and didn't have time to prove themselves? People who'd uprooted their lives to go to a New place and get a job. She fired all but one new hire.

Anonymous said...

Having worked under then Judge Wilson, I can comfortably say that these wild stories are absurd!!!!! She is tough yes, but fair. These stories about her are sour grapes from the vanquished.

Anonymous said...

Which part is not true? She did take pleasure in playing Christmas music while sending people to prison in Decembers. She did fire a well liked hard working investigator for no apparent reason other than he has MD. She did expand work hours with no flexibility and added Saturdays with no compensation. Morale is lower than before she took office. She did, while judge, place a child victim in the courtroom jail cell because she was angry. So what part is untrue?

Anonymous said...

We must not forget who went to great lengths to support her during her campaign: Dee Anderson, Betsy Price, Ron Wright, etc. They helped create this mess.

Anonymous said...

"sour grapes from the vanquished" ???????
The vanquished are those in the pen. The stories are from those who worked around her. I defy you to show even one story that is not true.

Anonymous said...

I have been in the Tarrant County courthouse community in excess of 30 years and have witnessed how the two district attorney administrations prior to DA Wilson's election ran the DA's office. Most, if not ALL, of the whiners on this blog are upset because Sharen has put an end to the Good 'Ol Boy system that they were so comfortable and happy with. No one is forcing anyone to work for the DA. If they are that unhappy, then QUIT!!! Grow up, and quit complaining about what the boss on your "GOVERNMENT" job won't let you get away with!!!

Anonymous said...

2:30 pm is exactly right. I was in her courtroom and heard the Christmas music thing with my own ears. And, yes, morale has fallen to unprecedented depths.

Anonymous said...

If their is nothing to fear from Sharen, then why is everyone posting anonymously?

Anonymous said...

#badboss

Anonymous said...

Aw, those poor felons had to listen to Christmas music during their revocation hearings. Someone needs to notify the victims of their crimes so they can feel sorry for the FELONS too. And ADAs aren't paid to have morale. They're paid to prosecute. Nobody cares about your "morale."

Anonymous said...

"I have been in the Tarrant County courthouse community in excess of 30 years and have witnessed how the two district attorney administrations prior to DA Wilson's election ran the DA's office. Most, if not ALL, of the whiners on this blog are upset because Sharen has put an end to the Good 'Ol Boy system that they were so comfortable and happy with. No one is forcing anyone to work for the DA. If they are that unhappy, then QUIT!!! Grow up, and quit complaining about what the boss on your "GOVERNMENT" job won't let you get away with!!!"

You're a liar, flat out.

Additionally, you're not part of any such imaginary "community." You are simply trying to fool people into thinking you have some sort of credibility. Unless you're a lawyer and willing to state your name, then you're nothing more than bullfrog neck's stooge.

Sharen Wilson is universally hated by the real courthouse community because she is devoid of any semblance of humanity in the way she conducts herself day to day.

Anonymous said...

7:34 You would be perfect for her staff. If you aren't already working for her, you should. Oh wait, all her staunch supporters refuse to work for her.

Anonymous said...

Why should I identify myself by name? Since you're so COURAGEOUS, "Attorney Know-it-all," why don't you and your "intellectual giant" colleagues identify yourselves and have the intestinal fortitude to tell Sharen to her face how you feel? Of course you wouldn't do that ... it takes more guts than you could acquire in 5 lifetimes. By the way, I'm not trying to make a case for anything; conversely, it seems that you and your cronies are.

Anonymous said...

So she ends the "good ole boy" system by placing the exact same men from Curry's 80's & 90's top positions in her office? How refreshing!!

Anonymous said...

Point well taken. Then everything should be peaches and cream.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Barry for exposing the petty, entitled nature of "professional" lawyers. This was great!

The good news is there are people out there that will do the job. Good for them.

As a taxpayer I hope she is successful and provides good value to Tarrant County.

The rest of you...go work in grand pappies or your father in laws law firm where you can fleece the public and provide over priced incompetent legal services.

Because you obviously don't care

Anonymous said...

So is the good ole boy system a figure of speech? Can women be good ole boys? I ask because a number of her top prosecutors that quit have vaginae.

Anonymous said...

I will admit that as a defense attorney in Tarrant, I am impressed with a few of her policy changes. She has actually given her assistants the ability to think for themselves and not have to go up the chain of command for a no-brainer plea deal. Also, she has removed the requirement that defendants waive expunction when pleading down to a Class C from a A or B misdemeanor. Credit where credit is due. I would not want to work for her though.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like somebody hit an exposed nerve with the "good ole boy" comment. It MUST be true. Like the old saying goes, "A hit dog will holler."

Anonymous said...

There is a lot to fear from SW everybody knows that she believes in payback.

Anonymous said...

Seems like all the Wilsonians will take up for her but they would not ever dare to work for SW. Why? Because the Wilsonians know that she is insufferable.

Anonymous said...

Who supports someone who played Christmas music in the courtroom while sentencing defendants? That's sick and if you cannot comprehend the inappropriateness of playing Christmas music while you are sentencing defendants then you are sick too. The Constitution was written for sick people just like you who take perverse pleasure in watching other people suffer. Playing music during a solemn process is an insult to the common decency of our judicial system which is afforded to even the most heinous of offenders. If you convict a defendant there is no reason to take a victory lap - the conviction says it all. Every time we convict someone it means that WE failed as a society to produce a productive citizen.

T.J. Snodgrass

Anonymous said...

Bullfrog cackles and fiddles while Rome burns.

Anonymous said...

Why quit and surrender the office to the wilsonians. There are more Tim Curry/Joe Shannon people than SW people. We are going to hang on until the next election.

Anonymous said...

Sharen Wilson's name will never be on anything. Sharen Wilson will always be known for divisiveness and negativity.

Anonymous said...

I think I am going to barf if I hear one more time that SW has a profound sense of right and wrong! Seriously?!

Anonymous said...

What happened to all of that TALK about compassion?

Anonymous said...

What is so disconcerting about SW is the self-righteousness and the holier than thou attitude.

Anonymous said...

Hey kids I am off to work that nice that I told you about is going to teach me how to answer the phone today!

T. J. Snodgrass

Anonymous said...

I thought Christians were supposed to be kind compassionate people...firing a man with MD...firing young new hires...demeaning your employees...playing Christmas music in your court...pushing working moms out the door...that is not Christ like...I am still waiting to see the kindness and compassion.

Anonymous said...

No exposed nerve, just a rhetorical question. I hardly call that a "holler." Like the old saying goes, "lighten up Frances."

Anonymous said...

Many of us knew the ADAs would be unhappy with Sharen, because she doesn't possess the "qualities" that Tarrant County seems to highly regard in their elected officials (she's not drunk and she's not a slut).

Anonymous said...

"Many of us knew the ADAs would be unhappy with Sharen, because she doesn't possess the "qualities" that Tarrant County seems to highly regard in their elected officials (she's not drunk and she's not a slut)."

Correct.

She's merely lacks compassion, judgment and humanity. The vast majority of her employees hate her. When angered, her neck can balloon to absurd proportions, somewhat resembling a human/bullfrog beast dreamt up by Hieronymus Bosch.

Anonymous said...

And there you have it. When you are losing the argument take to insulting women. You and the DA you support are not friends to women. You only serve to lower them.

Anonymous said...

Yet here we are. Hm, wonder what's different?

Anonymous said...

Hey don't knock it until you have tried it! Winston Churchill and Bill Clinton did all right and the 4 year drunk/slut binge that the Cowboys went on produced 3 Super Bowls in 4 years. Dang it I miss the good old days. The nerve of some people.

Anonymous said...

CASE IN POINT.

Anonymous said...

I bet you do miss "the good ol' boy" days.

Anonymous said...

The prosecutor down the hall from me was saying how much she hates our new boss and the seven of us all nodded our agreement. Everyone I know of in our office (Tarrant County DA) really dislikes Sharen Wilson.

Anonymous said...

Congrats on your resignation, Shelli. You've made the right move.

Anonymous said...

Senior ACDA turned in her resignation this week. Late today CDA Wilson fired the same prosecutor. So much for the prosecutor following the county's proper procedure for notice. The new chief of the civil division may get to put those boxing gloves SW touted in her PR pieces she had Bud Kennedy and others spew last fall.

ST - Hint Open Records Request Time - All resignation letters and the office responses. All personnel reviews by their command staff since 1/1/15.

Hey CDA Wilson have you hired a Chief of Staff yet?

How about a PIO?

Too busy dictating how the closets must be cleaned out and organized in the office?

The office can't wait till the end of the month for your next motivational speaker. Is there going to be another lesson in how to answer the phone from your volunteer who violates county policy by using a gmail account for official business? Since so many have left, that might not be a bad idea.

Hillary Clinton and SharEn Wilson - governmental e-mail violations run-a-muck. Two ladies who have perfected its an all about me attitude.

Even worse for the other elected officials in the county, she is their attorney. Wonder what they think when they see how well she did as an attorney before she took the bench? Then there are those admonishments from the folks in Austin about her abuses while on the bench.

You can't bully the public and the staff like you did your juries in the jury room.

Anonymous said...

The beatings to morale continue. Good luck Shelly. You won't be the last. For those who continue to support SW, find a quartet with Nearer My God To Thee in their repertoire.

Anonymous said...

My morale has improved by leaps and bounds since leaving the office. I feel terrible for those left behind. Save yourselves people. Karma will get those individuals who have hurt so many. It always does. I would hate to be near that explosion...

Anonymous said...

Can this lady be beaten in four years? Surely there's a way to get her defeated.

Anonymous said...

Keep up the good work Ms Wilson. Weed out the lazy, shiftless, entitled faux professionals. Thank you Barry for exposing these people!

9:01 PM quit!! All seven of you. Lightly salt my fries please :)

Barry how many of these slackers can bring on staff? Contribute please>? Do something besides "observe"

Anonymous said...

By the way I AM a professional. I have to do training on MY time. But I appreciate the opportunities I have to receive relevant training for my profession that helps me in my professional career.

Sickening

Maybe you can "drive bus"? Although I bet you couldn't do that competently either. Explain the Ticket reference Barry...

Anonymous said...

We all lament the loss of Shelly, easily the hottest girl in the courthouse. And a great lawyer too.

Anonymous said...

Unprofessional. Inexperienced. Incompetent. Sociopathic.

Insults staff, colleagues, victims, defendants, and strangers.

Has never managed anything larger than a small court staff and is demonstrating it now with her bizarre micromanagement of a massive staff.

Found incompetent by the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals in the 1980s. Fired from the DA office 25 years ago for her poor performance and inability to work with others.

Has no remorse for mistreatment of parents of special needs children, sexual assault victims on the witness stand, defendants at Christmas time, colleagues, staff, family, threatening former spouse of her husband on an answering machine, sexually harassing sheriff deputy in Amarillo and on and on and on...

And now she is destroying a highly respected DA office from within. When will the first federal labor lawsuit be brought against her? Or civil rights? Or administrative case? You pick 'em.

Anonymous said...

Bullfrog Beast? Yes, that is EXACTLY what she looks like. I'd like to see her extend her tongue and snatch a fly out of the air...

LL Cool Armpit said...

Call me crazy but that bullfrog thing has legs. If she runs in four years (hopefully not) maybe an opponent can CGI her morphing into a full bullfrog, tongue extended.

She's an ugly person and I'm not talking about her physical attributes. One wonders how she got the way she is.

Anonymous said...

"Leadership is solving problems. The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help or concluded you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership."

Anonymous said...

11:37 AM"Thank you Barry for exposing these people!"

Insert smile and then reread first line of the post, "Let's be honest about the elephant in the room: That lady is a nutcase. She's like an angry and unhappy Ted Cruz or Dan Patrick on meth yet with ultimate power. You should all be scared."

Power-drunk political bureaucrats care nothing of justice, just their agenda. They will face judgement one day, and it won't be Christmas music they hear; it will be weeping and gnashing of teeth!

I prefer being reconciled in this life and not the next...

Anonymous said...

"The best morale exist when you never hear the word mentioned. When you hear a lot of talk about it, it's usually lousy."

Anonymous said...

You don't lead by hitting people over the head - that's assault, not leadership.

Dwight D. Eisenhower

Anonymous said...

Barry, Thank you for your efforts to educate the voters about the true story and the true personality of the newly elected District Attorney..Sharen Wilson
It is sickening to think that someone like this is in charge of the most powerful office in Tarrant County. The office for the last 43 years has been run in a professional dignified way and we the citizens of Tarrant County have benefited greatly. Justice has been served with firm compassion..To think that the voters have turned this well run office over to someone that throws temper tantrums, fires people with total disregard to anything except her whim, and who seems to want to rid the office of anyone with good experience..That office has been so lucky in the past because so many seasoned experienced lawyers have come back to work there after being in the private sector bringing their expertise with them..and sharing it with the new young lawyers..It was a great mixture with a high conviction rate tempered with common sense..Hopefully with people like you who aren't afraid to speak out she will be a one term DA and Tarrant County will once again elect someone who has the temperament and personality and dignity to properly run the office

Anonymous said...

"Hottest girl" Jim. Is that you?

The Law Buzzard said...

http://lostprosecutor.blogspot.com/

I just got that link in a group email, and I hope it turns up some interesting stuff. I believe it's going to be run by a small contingent of people.

Anonymous said...

Can someone shed some light on whether or not it is true that SharEn Wilson dismissed almost 2500 cases for no reason other than they are older cases? I heard that this was done within her first 45 days or so.

If it is true that is roughly 2500 encounters that the hardworking women and men who pin on a badge every day risked their lives for nothing now.

With the extra hours each week, one would expect to be able to handle the increased workload if everyone is locked at their desk.

Does the Women's Haven know how many cases where a female was beaten were dismissed in this fashion? Then there is MADD. How upset will they be when they find out how many of these cases are DWIs? How about the victims of thefts that will never see their restitution because of her action? Did she follow the law and contact the victim about the cases prior to dismissal? Did she call the cops who risked their lives for each one of us every day rain or shine? Or did she just sit in her temporary office with her CD player listening to those old CDs she listened to while on the bench while sending people to prison?

I bet the citizens and the cops expected more when they gave SW their vote and / or endorsements.

Sad. The way she selects to run the office more efficient is just dismiss 5% of the cases on average for the year. The overhead alone for preparing for these cases is a substantial savings on the backs of the officers and jailers who had to arrest, process and handle these offenders. What happens when one of these offenders screws up again because they got a personal gift from her truly? It will certainly not be her fault because in her simple mind she does no wrong. She will undoubtedly see the need to fire yet another person to satisfy her selfish desires.

Has anyone else wondered what chapter of the DSM-IV best describes her?



Anonymous said...

Power-drunk political bureaucrats care nothing of justice, just their agenda. They will face judgement one day, and it won't be Christmas music they hear; it will be weeping and gnashing of teeth!

Do you think she is unique?? Don't all you lawyers have an agenda??

Anonymous said...

Keep the pressure up! Tell anyone that will listen and spread the word near and far about the lack of leadership and horrible conduct of Wilson as CDA.

Anonymous said...

CDA Wilson lost the office. The morale will never return to normal.

Anonymous said...

All of this sounds eerily like the comments about Judge Samuel Kent of Galveston before his fall. Some arrogance and disrespect for others. It will be interesting to see if her story ends in a similar fashion.

Anonymous said...

I just pray that concerned citizens keep up the pressure. Someone please answer. Has this woman ever successfully tried a murder or capital case? I keep hearing about these women buzzing around her like bees is this true? Who are they? Also is it true she fired 2. Attys because joe shannon hired them last? So this was strictly in retribution ? Why was this nut elected?

Anonymous said...

A dark cloud of Wilsonians hovers above the TIM CURRY CRIMINAL JUSTICE CENTER. Barry Green has provided a platform to shine light on the darkness. You are the light. Barry is doing his part now you must do yours. Don't be scared. Help keep the pressure on the Wilsonians and their bad behavior. Do more than read. Post a comment. Tell a friend about liberally lean.

Thanks Barry for making this story a priority.

Anonymous said...

@7:27 PM: That'll leave a burn. I wonder if J is next?

Anonymous said...

This may be the most bitter, toxic comment section I have ever seen, anywhere. I'm glad I don't live in Tarrant

Anonymous said...

Yes, that is true. She fired two people in the misdemeanor section for just that reason. That was two weeks after she was sworn in to office.

Anonymous said...

Is this comment thread longer than the Lori Lammers thread?

Anonymous said...

"A dark cloud of Wilsonians hovers above the TIM CURRY CRIMINAL JUSTICE CENTER. Barry Green has provided a platform to shine light on the darkness. You are the light. Barry is doing his part now you must do yours. Don't be scared. Help keep the pressure on the Wilsonians and their bad behavior. Do more than read. Post a comment. Tell a friend about liberally lean."

LOL, whut?

Anonymous said...

Oy- she even looks cuckoo.

Anonymous said...

I miss Speedoman. He would know what to do at a time like this.

Anonymous said...

Dallas County has Susan Hawk.
Tarrant County has Mike Hawk.

Anonymous said...

"Can someone shed some light on whether or not it is true that SharEn Wilson dismissed almost 2500 cases for no reason other than they are older cases? I heard that this was done within her first 45 days or so."

I dislike her more than most, but I don't think that happened.

Anonymous said...

I bet this year's Victory over Violence turnout from the CDA is the lowest in history.

Anonymous said...

No man is great if he thinks he is.

Anonymous said...

She looks crazy.

Anonymous said...

"I bet this year's Victory over Violence turnout from the CDA is the lowest in history."

I bet not. DJ says they're way ahead of last year's pace.

Anonymous said...

There is a lot of truth in the 2500 dismissals. I saw the staff pulling the DWI videos off the shelf for the dismissals last month when I stopped by to ask about a video needed for my client's trial. There were a large number of boxes full of the videos waiting to be destroyed.

As hard as it is for us to get discovery from the DA today, think of all of the wasted labor in making the arrest, preserving the evidence, and getting it ready for court.

Wasted. Bud Kennedy where is the open records request for the dismissals? Who gained the most from the dismissals?

Anonymous said...

For the Victory of Violence Walk - There could easily be a larger team of former DA Investigators, Staff and Prosecutors walking as a group. The shirts are already made, Mr. Curry and Mr. Shannon always took care of the cost out of their own pocket. Come to think of it, I believe there is a training session scheduled for that Saturday for the office staff. Topic - How to handle a hostile work environment created by your employer.

One of the original "SIX" senior prosecutors liberated by the new DA is now on staff at the Women's Center. She made a tremendous difference in the years at the DAs office. She taught a number of us how to do things the right way with honor and pride. She hasn't missed a beat as she works at her new digs at their headquarters.

Anonymous said...

sharEn why do you abuse your employees?

Anonymous said...

Speedoman! Dark Clouds! Wilsonians! A Bullfrog Queen! What a show!

Anonymous said...

How do I join the group of former Da employees involved in the victory over violence 5k?

Anonymous said...

Horse manure

J.L. said...

She better hope she doesn't lose any more senior staff. They're paper thin and no one would hire on at this point.

Anonymous said...

Love how she fires a board certified attorney who has never ever lost a case. Even a capital case and had every pdr filed granted and reversed. But hey according to larry moore. She cant be trusted!

Anonymous said...

Your board certified attorney had already put in her notice, 8:01.

Are we back on Larry Moore? I bet he regrets coming onboard.

Grubby said...

2 more Not Guilty verdicts so far this week. I'm hearing that there should be at least 1 more yet to come this week.

Thanks, Sharen!

Anonymous said...

There are two sides to every story. However, the good old boy elected officials are on SW's side. The other side loses.

Anonymous said...

Christy Jack comes to mind

Anonymous said...

Let's start supporting an individual who is an exceptional leader, compassionate person, an outstanding teacher and not to mention excellent work ethic. Christy Jack should be the next Tarrant County DA.

Anonymous said...

I just want to say that John Hubbard is the hardest working, do anything for his attorneys days, nights or weekends kind of investigator you will never find one individual who can say one negative thing about this man. SW you deserve nothing but the very worse in life for this one decision. I believe the devil has a place reserved for you

Anonymous said...

"Mandatory Saturday CLEs were the norm for the Tarrant County DAs Office well into the late 1990s.". Wrong. There was the occasional legislative update, but that is the only example of Saturday cle. And I think it only happened once.

Anonymous said...

"Mandatory Saturday CLEs were the norm for the Tarrant County DAs Office well into the late 1990s."

There were the occasional CLEs on Saturdays. I'd say they were more an early 90s deal but it is true.

This is minutiae, though. Don't get drawn into this sort of thing when the real issue is the incredibly BAD person who is running the Tarrant County DA's office. This lady is a TERRIBLE leader. NO ONE can deny this.

Anonymous said...

I mean really - she FIRED a man who was fifteen months from retirement the VERY week his mother dies - he served this county honorably for many years...she fired him because he suffers from MD - really what else needs to be said???? this is insane - yes we need Christy Jack - The Wilsonian defenders are operating from a place of fear...there can be no other reason anyone would defend a woman who fires a man because he suffers from MD - the same week his MOther dies - come one people wake up!!!!

Anonymous said...

It is time for Christy Jack!

Anonymous said...

sharEn how is your grand reorganization working out for you and your merry band of Wilsonians? Did you ever hire a chief of staff? What about a PIO? Not so good. Yeah that is what I thought. All of those high minded righteous ideals. You even read a management book or two! Real lawyering is hard. Your rank and file are holding the ship together so that it will not sink. We plug a leak and you create another leak all while you abuse us.

Anonymous said...

@12:54

What the capital "E" for?
Error?

Extremeinsider McProsecutor said...

I'm not the person who made that post but it's highlighting that her name is spelled differently, I guess.

"Your rank and file are holding the ship together so that it will not sink. We plug a leak and you create another leak all while you abuse us."

I will agree with that in general though perhaps I wouldn't be quite so dramatic about it. The workplace does in fact suck as badly as described. Morale is terribly low, just as described in this comments section.

She better not f'ing blow it next Friday at the big meeting.*

I'm betting that she will, in fact, blow it.

I have no confidence in her or her portly sidekick whatsoever. I fully expect more tactless statements and feel-bad moments, capped off by some really poorly thought-out court assignments.

Does anyone feel otherwise? Can any person who doesn't dislike her speak up and say something here?

I still can't believe that she managed to get rid of the people she got rid of. Jesus.


*we have a meeting for the entire office next Friday where new court assignments are expected to be announced as well as some promotions and other matters

Anonymous said...

Pay close attention to the promotions next week.

Anonymous said...

There is a rumor that she's going to do the bullfrog neck trick thing for you guys at your big meeting in order to lighten everybody up and make you guys feel better about your job.

Anonymous said...

It will be interesting to see how this weeks meeting goes. Lots of moves and the weekend to think about it.
But she has shown she has no good knowledge of her people and how they perform day to day. Anyone who promotes Lisa C. to court chief shows how really out of touch they are. It is amazing to think that Mark T. was fired and Lisa promoted. Insane.

Anonymous said...

7:53. Could not agree with you more. From my experience Lisa c is a bulky. Certainly an appellate shopper. I heard the appellate section had to establish "lisa c" rules to combat her law shopping. mark t was a thoughtful encouraging mentor

Anonymous said...

The E stands for Extremist.

Anonymous said...

Lisa C. seems like a nice person, but she has been afflicted with the self righteous holier than thou syndrome. She'll fit right in with her new boss.

Anonymous said...

If Wilson could have a do-over, surely she would not get rid of Mark and Betty. That was just horrible in all ways. Those guys were great. I never worked directly with them but everyone unanimously felt quite strongly about what a benefit each was to the office. Shame on her for doing such an idiotic thing as canning them.

I'm not going to slag Lisa. She is still new to her role so let's give her a fair chance.

Anonymous said...

For those who think that office morale does not matter or that those who reduce objectors to "whiners" are missing the big picture. Our DA lacks empathy. That is a character fault that will have a domino effect on our entire community. It may take time, but she will eventually be exposed to the county at large as unfit for the job.

Anonymous said...

I wonder what words of wisdom and motivational messaging is in store for us Friday? This place sucks now.....too bad I have only been here 11 years, or I would be gone!!!!!

Anonymous said...

She is a nice person, just not someone who should be a supervisor.

Anonymous said...

I don't like the lady and she is totally incompetent for the position, but let's not lower ourselves to commenting on her looks.....there are serious issues going on in our community and the leadership at the DA office is not capable of handling them.

Denney Crane said...

If I were wanting to get someone in that office fired, I would post a comment just like 1:09 PM has.

Talk about misdirection. Wouldn't take much to filter out 11 year employees in that office.

This is how you get rid of office enemies!

Anonymous said...

Denny, you have no clue.

Anonymous said...

I am so excited about our motivational meeting today....I hope they introduce the new hires so we can see their VAST experience.

Anonymous said...

Can someone give me an update on the big staff meeting yesterday?

Anonymous said...

A firing and a resignation in Tarrant County today.

Anonymous said...

Denny, I'm still here!!!!

Denney Crane said...

1:17 PM

Good for you!

The year is young and the only constant is change.

Keep your chin up and keep dodging bullets. Keep candy on your desk and share with everyone!!! It works!!! Everyone will visit you daily. Chocolate works best...

When you leave, they may not miss you, but they will darn sure miss your sugar!

Anonymous said...

6:14 PM said;

A firing and a resignation in Tarrant County today.

That is a great start! Keep em coming!

Anonymous said...

Two more resignations yesterday.....one senior.

Anonymous said...

It is horrible working here. This woman is a disaster. She makes decisions at the last minute. I am stressed to the max. I miss Tim Curry. He trusted his staff. Wilson treats us as if we are her enemy. Just awful.

Anonymous said...

They won't be if tey dismiss Michael Benningfields assult case, DA is afraid of an arbitration hearing, so they try to accept a Class A Misdemeanor instead..... this will expose the DA's office. Fireman bites off guy eye in bar fight, and the DA says "Simple Assault" let's see how this plays out......

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

I am currently being harassed by her associates as we speak. Anyone else know the Hyde name?