The Campaign For DA

2.18.2015

So This Is The Only Way To Stop A Man Allegedly Armed With A Machete In A Truck?


In Del Rio yesterday. I tried to count the number of shots the cops fired but to no avail. Video.


20 comments:

Anonymous said...

They needed to stop the machete-wielder who had threatened people, and who happened to be in a truck.
They got him stopped, and he used an 80,000 lb truck as a weapon.

They HAD him stopped; he made the decision to try to drive over cops and cop cars, one supposes to try to begin a pursuit through town... in which there were people whom he had threatened.

Look, I know that every use of deadly force should be analyzed, B.G., but what would you have had the cops do?

And don't say, "I was just asking a question! Jeez!" Your title question for this post was of the nature of "Have you stopped beating your wife?"

Anonymous said...

OK, as a conservative who sometimes dogs this blogger for his fealty to liberal dogma, it does seem that LE could have immobilized the rig with tire spikes and bracketed the rig with some D9s (if available), then tossed a smoke/CS grenade into the truck, instead of spraying the area with bullets.

Anonymous said...

Yes

Anonymous said...

Give'em all 1 bullet just like Barney.

Anonymous said...

All they needed to do was unhook the air lines to the trailer from truck. His brakes would have locked and wouldnt have been able to move at all.

Anonymous said...

Tire spikes slowly let the air out over time.
D9s-- you mean 130,000 lb bulldozers, which cost hundreds of thousands of dollars??!?
11:47, are you smoking crack?

Also, how do you get a grenade into the cab of the truck, when the windows are up? Traditionally, one would use a 40 mm or 37 mm grenade launcher ("gas gun"), which is sho' 'nuff deadly force if you're firing it into a cab.

Anonymous said...

11:47 here. I yield my proposal to the commenter @ 12:16, and one surmises, 12:24, that one might be able to breach the glass or the cab skin with something less than the grenade launchers.

Anonymous said...

Death by cop. Did you know there is no official tally of the number of citizens killed by cops from year to year? Seems odd in that the fed keeps track of everything these days.

Anonymous said...

Or you could have lawyers yell big words at them.

Anonymous said...

12:24 here.
So officers are supposed to climb aboard a moving semi-tractor trailer rig, to remove the air lines? You realize that this is really, REALLY dangerous, right?

Also, 12:49/11:47, please comment-- were you actually suggesting that the officers use bulldozers? So, cops are supposed to keep a couple of lowboys loaded with dozers at the ready for dealing with guys who are evading in semi-tractors?

Also, with regard to breaching safety glass, you're first going to have to get up to the window, which again calls for climbing the moving rig, or you're asking cops to carry breaching devices on poles.

You can come up with specialized equipment, but there's a point where there are simply too many specialized events. There is a point where a person who threatens people, and has the means to carry out the threat, and then makes threatening actions toward officers who try to stop him, has forfeit his right not to have deadly force used to stop him.

I actually agree that there are too many shootings. But I also wonder how we're helping the public, when we let an animal like this threaten citizens and officers and, through reckless acts, the public at large?

There comes a point at which you just put him down, and hope that no one else got hurt. I'm really sorry if that makes me sound callous. But there is a reason why you pay those officers to carry guns and protect the public. And if they stand around with their thumbs up their butts whilst a violent felon takes off, they're not doing their job.

On this occasion, they probably did.

Anonymous said...

What a great world it would be if Lawyers could just do the job they were educated to do and would stop playing arm chair quarterback to Cops that educated to do the job they do. Just my two cents.

Anonymous said...

What is the value of a human life?

Anonymous said...

I kind of prefer a death sentence carried out by instant lead poisoning instead of a lengthy trial by a tax payer court appointed attorney and then a 20 year wait on death row or as the liberal weenies would prefer, a life sentence.

Anonymous said...

Every time police aquire heavy vehicles for purposes like this, half the country screams 'over-militarization of the police'.

Geez.

Your caption should say this is how the police stop a man in an 80,000 lbs motorized weapon.

Nothing says 'stop and get out of your vehicle' like 16 police cars with all their reds and blues flashing.

The guy wanted death by police and he got it. Why are you lib tards throwing a fit about that.

Its like euthanasia and abortion to you folks. You should be celebrating.

Anonymous said...

You guys are pretty flippant about other people's lives and giving cops the go-ahead to make that rather final decision. I say, if it's so easy to justify a summary execution then we might as well turn cops into judges. Maybe the driver of that truck would have caused mayhem and death and then again, maybe he wouldn't have. Maybe I'll get hassled by a corrupt cop the next time I get pulled over and then again, maybe I won't.

By the way, comparing a cop's education to a lawyer's is apples to peanuts.

Ask yourself the same thing 3:04 asked.

Anonymous said...

12:24. And shots fires in all directions isn't dangerous?
The air lines are between the cab and trailer. Doesn't take much to undo the glad hand. Lol. Then it wouldn't move again. Heck no further than he was moving it wouldn't have been very dangerous at all.

Anonymous said...

4:38, where are getting that shots were fired in all directions? Also, I say again: getting into the gap of a moving semitractor trailer rig when the driver is trying to evade is not something that anyone you know would do.

12:24

Anonymous said...

I agree that comparing the education between attorneys and cops is like comparing apples to peanuts.

But then, cops tend to stay in their lane a lot more than attorneys, and are far less likely to be guilty of False Authority Syndrome. (Though admittedly, not always.)

I wonder if doctors and plumbers and electricians and firemen have to put up with everyone telling them how they should have done their jobs, despite the fact that they followed protocols?

Anonymous said...

The question about protocols? Good question. Police protocols are out of whack if someone dies -- and that's the way we should view it if we truly want a peaceful society. The caretakers of our society are those who provide first line examples. If they are violent, then it is likely the rest of us will harbor violent thoughts.

Anonymous said...

Suits the &&iT out of me. They won't have to do it again the next time he gets pissed .