This guy has always driven me a little nuts but, as most people think, it's too hard not to like him. He's always been a leader, always been a winner, and he stays out of trouble.
And although he might not make it in the NFL, he'll be seen on the big stage this Sunday when he'll appear in a 30 second commercial purchased by Focus on The Family. The ad will recount his mother's decision not to have an abortion after briefly considering it. (No one has seen it yet, although Focus on the Family has certainly gotten its money's worth since everyone is talking about it.)
But as much as everyone goes nuts over the issue of abortion, the Mark Davis Show this morning had a pretty good point: No one should have an issue with the ad. Certainly the pro-life crowd will love it, but the pro-choice should equally embrace it as well. The ad won't say that abortion should be illegal or that Roe v. Wade needs to be overturned. Nope, it will simply be a "choose life" message. That's the pro-choice folks position as well: If after considering all your options you wish to have the baby, they support that decision as well. That shouldn't be offensive to the pro-choice crowd because that's their position as well
That seems obvious but seems to get lost in the storm sometimes.
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2.04.2010
Tim Tebow's Pro Life Super Bowl Commercial
This guy has always driven me a little nuts but, as most people think, it's too hard not to like him. He's always been a leader, always been a winner, and he stays out of trouble.
And although he might not make it in the NFL, he'll be seen on the big stage this Sunday when he'll appear in a 30 second commercial purchased by Focus on The Family. The ad will recount his mother's decision not to have an abortion after briefly considering it. (No one has seen it yet, although Focus on the Family has certainly gotten its money's worth since everyone is talking about it.)
But as much as everyone goes nuts over the issue of abortion, the Mark Davis Show this morning had a pretty good point: No one should have an issue with the ad. Certainly the pro-life crowd will love it, but the pro-choice should equally embrace it as well. The ad won't say that abortion should be illegal or that Roe v. Wade needs to be overturned. Nope, it will simply be a "choose life" message. That's the pro-choice folks position as well: If after considering all your options you wish to have the baby, they support that decision as well. That shouldn't be offensive to the pro-choice crowd because that's their position as well
That seems obvious but seems to get lost in the storm sometimes.
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Kudos to Focus on the Family and kudos to Tebow and his mom as well.
I'm Pro-Responsibility. If you want and can take proper care of a child, dandy. If you don't want a child or just can't properly care for a child - don't have one. Either prevent a pregnancy or provide for it or terminate it.
Great point on the Tebow ad – both sides are so quick to assume the other side is out of bounds we don’t really listen to what’s being said.
Having said that here is my question: What do the pro-life folks want the law to say?
If it’s that abortion is murder - then would the female that has the abortion be guilty of hiring a murder? If so that makes her just as guilty of murder as the abortionist.
Maybe abortion is a moral issue not a legal one?????
I'm not saying…..I'm just saying……
OK if after considering all your options you wish to have abortion, the pro-life people should support that decision as well. Right?
11:37:
Um... No. Thus the name pro-LIFE.
Pro-Responsibility. I love that. I will steal it.
Barry, that is the most logical post and opinion that I have seen you post in years!
11:37 - Faulty thinking. The pro-CHOICE people are theoretically supportive either way. If you decide to abort, they support that. If you decide to have the child, they support that. The only people who would disagree with the ad are the pro-abortionist. If the ad is only saying "choose life", why should a pro-choice person be upset if they really support choice?
I am a pro-life proponent and do believe it is a moral issue. I think government does have a right to rule on the legality of abortion but not on the morality of abortion. I believe the people choosing to have an abortion and performing the abortion answer to a higher authority than me and while I will say that I think they should choose life, I'll let God decide how to handle his relationship with them. I'll keep loving them and hoping they always put God first in their decisions and I'll try to keep living in a way where I do the same.
Nwaneri posted on the Jaguars’ Web site that, while cashing a check, a bank teller started talking about how Tebow will save the Jaguars.
So Nwaneri posted his five points on Tebow, with capital letters:
"1. He can't throw, PERIOD.
2. He can't read any coverage other than probably cover 2 or man.
3. The QB Wildcat WILL NOT WORK IN THIS LEAGUE. PERIOD.
4. He doesn’t know how to take a snap from center.
5. HE CAN’T THROW, and that’s really something you either have or not."
Well said, 11:55.
Abortion is wrong plain and simple....no ands ifs or buts.
Pro-Life means for life. A baby is a life right now not any certain time during a 9 month period. I understand the need to want to kill a baby like I want to kill cetain stupid people so they cannot reproduce but I know I cannot do the latter it is just wrong and silly..as is the killing of a unwanted nuisance or mistake no matter how much we dehumanize it.
I don't care if they have the pro-life commercial but the conflict is when you air this commercial yet ban other commercials........Is it only free speech for your position or free speech if you have 2.5 million to spend.....
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/super-bowl-ads-tim-tebow-men-kissing-publicity-commercials-banned/story?id=9720930
I wouldn't have bothered with the Super Bowl this Sunday, but after hearing about the Tebow ad (via an email from my Mother, days ago), I'm tuning in.
Brings a reality check to the abortion issue -- for either side. Kinda of like that Christmas bumpersticker: "What if Mary had been Pro-Choice?"
Makes you stop and think.
Would seem that anyone who was born should not have an issue with it.
Thought you might want to know the city of Bridgeport finally pissed off enought people on the high electric bills that they are contacting Fox 4. They have over charging for years,and the people are tired of it.1000.00 a month for a 2200 sq. foot house is a tad high you think.
1:30… "What if Mary had been Pro-Choice?"
The fact that you ask this question shows a lack of understanding to what Pro-Choice stands for.
Mary had a loving husband who was just as committed as she to have a new baby.
So to answer your question “What if Mary had been pro-choice”.....no change.
Makes you stop and think.
I am 100% pro-choice and yet I find 11:55's comments loving and tolerant and quite unlike most folk who present themselves to be "Christians" but get off on passing judgment on others. Nice post and true Christian spirit, 11:55.
"That's the pro-choice folks position as well: If after considering all your options you wish to have the baby, they support that decision as well. That shouldn't be offensive to the pro-choice crowd because that's their position as well"
You don't really believe that- right? I mean, oh come on!
Another hand grenade of a conversation starter, I get it! Ha ha.
What if the Tooth Fairy's mother had been pro-choice, or Santa's.
How about that for a bumper sticker??
It is, indeed, a wonderful thing that Tim Tebow's mother lived at a time women had the RIGHT to make the CHOICE whether or not to continue a pregnancy and the Tebow family enjoyed a positive outcome.
Personal CHOICE is a WONDERFUL thing for all Americans. I am disgusted by the blatant hypocrisy and double standards of Republicans/Conservatives/Raging Right WingNutz who are hissing and spitting about Obama and the Democrats promoting legislation that would potentially diminish personal choice but have no problem ranting, raving and railing against women having the right to make the personal choice of whether or not they wish to continue with a matter as personal as pregnancy. I suggest, people who do not want an abortion NOT get an abortion and leave women, who make the choice to have an abortion, alone and RESPECT their RIGHT to make personal decisions and live their lives as they see fit.
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To AnObiter...
I have, indeed, given thought to what would have happened if "Mary" had opted for an abortion. The first benefit would have been that MILLIONS of people, throughout the past centuries, would not have been murdered in the name of Christianity, Catholicism/Protestantism.
If you are pro-life and pro-death penalty you are human filth. Hope this helps!
As for the "What if Mary..." crap, well if she was, she would have died in a backalley abortion and we wouldn't have to hear any of this nonsense. In other words, the world would have been a lot better place.
Believe me, I have no "lack of understanding" re: ProChoice initiatives. And actually, if you read the story of Christ's birth more closely, Mary feared having to share her news with Joseph. He could've had her put away, stoned, etc. It was a frightful time for her. Something out of her control. Something she didn't exactly "choose" for herself. Mary & Joseph had to sacrifice their own plans in life in order to cope with an unplanned pregnancy.
Sounds a lot like the same old issue today. And like I said, choices made -- either way -- are something to sit back and truly think about.
I'm glad Mary and Mrs. Tebow were courageous women. I'm glad my Mother was as well.
If I was him I'd have "End" under one eye and 12-21-12 under the other.
AnOrbiter - Just who recorded Mary's thoughts about her pregnancy? I don't recall any reports in the Bethleham Times or CNN about the event. She didn't write a book either, as I recall. Or was it some more mythology written from fables some 90 years later?
I am pro-choice. I am just for the right to CHOOSE for EVERYONE, including the FETUS. Why should the fetus not have rights, just like everyone else?
So, let the fetus go to term, grow up, and be able to exercise their rights.
So back to my question: "What do the pro-life folks want the law to say?"
I like abortion...keeps the liberal population in check. Get rid of abortions and the liberals would be churning out little government dependent mindless Obama voters...screw that.
Would it be bad if I showed up and chased him w/ a coat hanger...
I, for one, am tired of this modern philosophy of save the trees and kill the children...it saddens me, and whether you believe or not makes absloutley no difference, but God WILL judge this nation, and any other nation who condones abortion and says it's a woman's choice...it was her choice to have sex, it shouldn't be her choice to kill the baby.
Great post, 3:21! Anob. may believe all that crap, but I don't buy into the whole premise of literality of the bible. It's a book, written by mere men, with great ideas of how to live life and treat others and get along. So is the koran,the bhagavad gita and all the other books on the same topic. Good guideposts to playing well with others, but literal truth? I don't believe it.
I am pro-abortion. We already have too many people being born these days to those who aren't ready to be parents. Plus, abortion lowers the crime rate (interesting chapter on this in Freakonomics) and) decreases the amount of folks who receive government assistance. But, in this great country where we embrace freedom, those who are pro-life can certainly choose not to have an abortion.
2:36, only non-aborted people are OK with abortion. Aborted people don't get the chance to weigh in on the matter.
Both sides want to make this a political issues – the only reason to involve politics is to change the laws. As it stands the Pro-Choice people have Row v Wade on their side.
What do the Pro-Life people want from their politicians?
4:31 so true. It blows my mind that pro-life people don't understand this.
I'm adopted. My birthmother, in the 60's, had to go away to another state to have me just so no one would know. I was lucky. I was adopted within a month. I can only imagine what children who have been stored away in adoption centers waiting to be adopted feel. Wonder if they wish they had been aborted. Sometimes, I feel that way simply because my birth parents didn't want me.
"Fireball" Green strikes again.
As usual, God forbid expressing an opinion that differs with another 'round here. Suit yourselves...
If you think the utility cost issues in the City of Bridgeport are newsworthy,you're gonna love what the "girls" at City Hall and the City Council have done to "trim" the budget.OMG
Implied in "Freedom of religion" is freedom from religion. If you choose to believe in the "pie in the sky" why can't you just keep it to yourself and not try to cram it down everybody elses throat. If you want to follow the fairy tale do so snd don't subject me to your beliefs. I don't try to recruite you to the "Dark Side".
I like this kid, but he sounds to good to be true. I foresee some scandal in his future. I hope I'm wrong on this one, but he is human.
Why don't we see what God says about this issue THOU SHALL NOT KILL what is so hard about that?
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That's right, I said it. Remember that you heard it here first.
10:30 easy - some folks out there just don't believe in God. Actually, more and more each day...
10:30,
Funny, He called that, a couple thousand years ago. Right on schedule.
IF TWO PEOPLE AGREE TO HAVE SEX ... THEN THEY SHOULD DEAL WITH THE FACT THEY COULD HAVE A CHILD.
IF A WOMAN GETS RAPED.... SHE SHOULD BE GIVING THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHETHER OR NOT TO HAVE THIS CHILD.
IF THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER OR CHILD IS IN DANGER IT SHOULD BE A HEALTH
DICISION.
BUT TOO JUST ABORT BECAUSE YOU MESSED UP ~~ NOT YOU PLAYED SO YOU HAVE TO CARE FOR THAT INNOCENT LIFE YOUR DECISION HAS CREATED.
MANY PEOPLE WANT CHILDREN AND CAN'T HAVE THEM SO CONSIDER THAT AND PLACE THIS PRECIOUS HUMAN BEING UP FOR ADOPTION .... DO NOT KILL TO COVER YOUR UN PLANNED NITE IN THE SACK !!!!
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