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8.25.2005

Not-A-Good

"STUDENTS TREATED AT WRHS — Nine Decatur Middle School eighth grade girls were treated and released at Wise Regional Health System following a 1 1/2 mile run Wednesday morning." - From the Update Take shelter, the fallout is coming.

48 comments:

Anonymous said...

Is anyone surprised? Middle of August, TEXAS, heat index of 108 .....lets take 13 year olds and run them a mile and a half!
Just another example....of a lack of good judgement by those that supervise our children. It happens way to often
I have feared for years of a tragedy with our cross-country runners on Deer Park Road and other major streets. Bad Idea!
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1. Rolling over First
2. Saying "Da-Da" First
3. Sitting Up First
4. Crawling First (at least early)
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Anonymous said...

The problem is that they are not in shape. Thay sat around all summer and ate and drank who knows what and yes it is 108 but when i was in high school we ran from the high school to the old stadium in town every other day and then lifted weights and had option to run jog or walk back to the high school which was by then 4-5pm. i do not recall any hospital treatment ever. Yes these kids are 13 or 12 and a mile and a half may be much but i doubt it. The kids parents need to take care of their diets and conditioning during summer if it is known what will be in store come school time.

Anonymous said...

I agree with Anon #2. While I believe some may have felt bad because of the heat, I understand that. But, seven girls leaving during lunch? Comeon..

Anonymous said...

I think we need to remember these ARE kids and NOT pro athletes!

They aren't supposed to LIVE their sport at 12 or 13.

It is too dang hot for them to be running outside ... period. WAY to much importance is given to school sports.

Anonymous said...

I am confused.. Ok, what do you do in athletics? Watch tv? The kids know what they are supposed to be doing-besides they signed up to be in athletics. They know it is hot outside, are they supposed to sit inside school during athletics? What do you want them to do next? Play patty cake?

Anonymous said...

I wonder if the armchair atheletes posting here actually spend time outside rather than running from their air-conditioned H2 to their air-conditioned offices and homes.

Or if they actually exercise... Of course it has to be in an air-conditioned gym. Those love handles and saddlebags don't go away on their own, you know.

But what do I know, I used to run in the middle of Death Valley during the summer, no water or shade. I also pulled the family Borax wagon. You didn't see me complain, I liked it!

tweetybird said...

And I walked 3 miles to school in the snow........... so what

Anonymous said...

i cant beleive the peoples blasting these coaches. its the parents that allow their kids to sit around all summer, eat bon bons, hang out at the mall and chat on the internet all night. if a kid can not run 1 mile (thats not timed by the way) at 11 in the morning and was far from 108.
you as a parent failed if your child cant run. athletics is not a time to 4 square in the gym. 1 mile is really not far enough, but heck, i guess it works. the kids at the elementary schools run rather than that on select says and they have all lived to tell about it and they are as young as 5.
use this a reason to get your child moving around instead of critisize someone who is encouraging a child to get off her toosh

Anonymous said...

You are exactly correct (anon 1)
These girls signed up for athletics not something dangerous.
It shows a lack of supervision to put any jr high athlete in this danger. Why can they not run in the gym? I also agree about the running on roadways....it is crazy.
Saw a story recently where a child was hit, while running with his school cross country group.
Wake up parents....you can't play a single down, inning or quarter for these kids. Let them be kids and keep them SAFE. I know accidents occur in sports but that many kids becoming ill should speak volumes. This could have had a tragic ending and we could all just say, "well that's what happens when your not in shape!"
Give me a BREAK!

Anonymous said...

is Baby Camp full...my little guy is 2 weeks old and ready to rumble! ha-ha

Anonymous said...

Anon #9 you contradicted yourself.
"You can't play a single down, inning or quarter for these kids. Let them be kids and keep them SAFE"
Lack of supervision? Run in the gym? Makes a lot of sense, so when the athletes have a sport requiring physical activity outside in the elements, more will drop because they are used to air conditioning, and little sweat. Give me a break.

Anonymous said...

I take both sides. Just like the rest of you I had to run in school but our coach started us off on 1/2 lap the first day and built it up from there. Yes these kids were probably out of shape and they weren't going to get back in shape right away.

Anonymous said...

just curious because I didn't see the actual update..but were these girls in athletics or were they in a p.e. class? That would be a pretty big difference.

Anonymous said...

They were in Athletics

Anonymous said...

I think they were all a bunch of wussies. Sure it's hot but we are only talking about a mile and a half and they could walk that in 22 minutes or so if they were going slow. I have been running in the heat recently and it does kick your butt but I am 45 years old.

Anonymous said...

Wow real mature to call 12 and 13 year olds "Wussies".

momma said...

Where are you guys coming from. The only fact here is that students, in our schools, became ill from a lever "orange" ozone report and heat over 100 degrees. I would be sick too - no, I would have dropped dead.

It is too hot to push these kids that hard. So what if they sat around all summer - they are in middle school; what do you expect.

Back off = teach them the tools of "hydrating" and "ease" them back into school activities. Let's not forget that they are just kids. Do you want to bury them at Oaklawn or give them a break.

Anonymous said...

I am sorry but running 1 mile is not PUSHING anyone. It is called exercise. They were provided breaks, water. Yes it was hot. People that aren't used to the weather or running get sick.. It is a fact of life, at ANY age.

Anonymous said...

My daughter is in 8th grade in Chico. She has athletics beginning at 2:30 in the afternoon, the hottest part of the day. And yes, they run, but they start out slow and build back up to the mile or mile and a half as the season progresses.

Give em a chance to recondition themselves!! Again, they are just kids. I for one couldn't do it!!

Anonymous said...

I have a great idea for keeping these runners off the busy roads. They could use that expensive rubberized track that we bought them and have resurfaced a few times. There are no cars on it and the rubber keeps their joints from pounding on the pavement so they won't end up like me with bum knees because we had no expensive rubber to run on. I dodge these kids on Deer Park road all the time - they won't move out of the way - they think they have the right of way. I feel sorry for the person who eventually does hit one of them - they will have to live with it (and a lawsuit).....

Anonymous said...

how bout we just dont allow any of these fragile kids to run and just let them all grow up to be overweight, out of shape and heart attacks waiting to happen. good night, if a 13 year old cant run a mile and his/her own pace and they voluntarily sign up for athletics, you have other problems. also, have every tried to tried a gallon of water and then immediately run afterwards? heck, you would colapse in craps. drinking enough fluids has to start at home.

Anonymous said...

You parents are all over rating the situation. Just be thankful everyone is O.K. Can't we all just get along. After all we are the adults.

Anonymous said...

Let us be sure that we get the facts straight about this event. It was 11:00 a.m. The temperature at that time was 90 degrees. The heat index was 92 degrees. Water was available. 9 of the 10 children were able to complete the mile, and yes it was a mile. They ran the mile and then jogged for a cool down while the others finished the mile. They then were able to jog back to the lockerroom, change clothes, go to their school lockers, go to the cafeteria, eat lunch, and then have heat problems. The facts, that's all.

Anonymous said...

Just one other fact. People forget that the ozone level orange (or otherwise)does not necessarily include Decatur. The ozone levels shown on the local DFW news stations is referring to the metroplex. Decatur usually has much less pollution and ozone levels than the metroplex proper.

Mae said...

My son was in ahletics in middle school and the coach, called my son a wussie and made fun of him in front of the other kids, because he had kidney stones and had to drink lots of water and be able to go to the restroom ASAP He was hospitalized several times for stones. He was one of the best runners on the team. My son lost all respect for him and refused to ever subject himself to that type of humiliation by a coach ever again. Coaches can be cruel, I think they need to get their priorities straight and practice a lot more compassion. P.S. we have had terrific experiences with other coaches.

Mae said...

My son was in ahletics in middle school and the coach, called my son a wussie and made fun of him in front of the other kids, because he had kidney stones and had to drink lots of water and be able to go to the restroom ASAP He was hospitalized several times for stones. He was one of the best runners on the team. My son lost all respect for him and refused to ever subject himself to that type of humiliation by a coach ever again. Coaches can be cruel, I think they need to get their priorities straight and practice a lot more compassion. P.S. we have had terrific experiences with other coaches.

Anonymous said...

My son was in ahletics in middle school and the coach, called my son a wussie and made fun of him in front of the other kids, because he had kidney stones and had to drink lots of water and be able to go to the restroom ASAP He was hospitalized several times for stones. He was one of the best runners on the team. My son lost all respect for him and refused to ever subject himself to that type of humiliation by a coach ever again. Coaches can be cruel, I think they need to get their priorities straight and practice a lot more compassion. P.S. we have had terrific experiences with other coaches.

Anonymous said...

My son was in ahletics in middle school and the coach, called my son a wussie and made fun of him in front of the other kids, because he had kidney stones and had to drink lots of water and be able to go to the restroom ASAP He was hospitalized several times for stones. He was one of the best runners on the team. My son lost all respect for him and refused to ever subject himself to that type of humiliation by a coach ever again. Coaches can be cruel, I think they need to get their priorities straight and practice a lot more compassion. P.S. we have had terrific experiences with other coaches.

Mae said...

So sorry I didn't mean to repeat myself, I am an impatient button pusher

Anonymous said...

sorry to hear about his experience, that's just wrong.
that does not mean all coaches are this way, just as in every other occupation whether it be bad cops, bad, bad teachers or bad bloggers.
the decatur coaches did no wrong other than be critisized for doing what parents do not do.

Anonymous said...

TELL YOU WHAT. IF ATHLETICS IS SOOO HARD ON YOUR CHILDREN, MAYBE YOU SHOULD THINK ABOUT BAND OR CHOIR INSTEAD OF ATHLETICS. HAVING BEEN MARRIED TO A LONG TIME COACH(WITH A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM) I KNOW IT WILL NOT KILL A 12-18 YEAR OLD TO RUN A MILE IN THE HEAT. MY WIFES TEAMS DID IT EVERY YEAR, NEVER SENT A ONE TO THE HOSPITAL. I CAN BEAT THAT. WHEN MY WIFE WAS A ATHLETE HERSELF THEY RAN IN THE GYM, JUST LIKE ONE OF THE OTHER BLOGGERS SUGGESTED. GUESS WHAT, THERE WASNT ANY A/C IN THAT GYM. NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON TO THE HOSPITAL THEN EITHER...WINNING PROGRAM ALSO.. PEOPLE, YOU WANT YOUR KIDS TEAMS TO WIN(EVERYTHING) BUT YOU DONT WANT THEM TO GET HOT ? DOESNT WORK THAT WAY.....

Anonymous said...

amen, brotha

Anonymous said...

COMPASSION-- MAE YOUR KID NEEDS TO BE IN ART CLASS NOT ATHLETICS. COACHES ARENT SUPPOSE TO BE COMPASSIONATE. THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET YOUR KID (THE STUDENT) OFF THEIR LAZY BUTTS & INTO SHAPE. I PLAYED A LOT OF SPORTS & HAD A LOT OF DIFFERENT COACHES, NOT A ONE OF THEM WAS COMPASSIONATE... WHAT A JOKE.

Anonymous said...

My son went on to play select soccer and his dad has played and coached soccer for 20 plus yrs. Here is the joke, which I don't think is very funny, too many of our kids die on the sport fields from lack of judgement and the win at ALL costs attitude. So please explain to me what the JOKE is. The only thing I find funny about your post is you ex-jock mentality. All of the above is said with COMPASSION for you.

Anonymous said...

too many of our kids die of obesity too, later in life, that perhaps some could have been prevented if they had an active childhood. and i do beleive obesity is a much bigger killer today than on-field deaths. actually, the numbers dont even compare.


the joke is those parents who would rather see a coach fired because a group of parents cry foul because their lazy kids claim to be ill from running an untimed mile in THE MORNING -- hours later

the only finger pointing that should be done here are the parents need to aim that thing at themselves.

tulip said...

You seem very angry, life's too short for that.

Anonymous said...

I point no fingers I am just speaking from personal experience, I have 10 neices & nephews, all but 2 were in DISD athletics, 2 went on to play college sports. How much actual contact have you had with athletics over the last 10 years? Just curious. I do agree that obesity is a huge problem in children today.

Anonymous said...

i have been coaching high school sports since 1991

Anonymous said...

You are a coach, that sheds some new light on you post.

Anonymous said...

I appreciate what you do. As you stated you remember your coaches, just as your students will remember you. Yes, parents bear resposibility, but so do you. A great coach is one who inspires kids with positive reinforcement and by setting a good example, not by bullying & threats, I hope your post was misleading, no kid deserves to be called names or referred to in a derogatory way.

Anonymous said...

i also have four kids, so i dont just see from a coaches point of view, but also as a parent. being a coach is secondary, i am parent first.

and to think any of my children could not run an untimed mile in the morning is absurd. actually, i couldn't imagine it.

you're right, no kid deserves that treatment, which is no the case in decatur last week. so whats the big deal?

Anonymous said...

No big deal, DISD has been good to my family, I was just surprised at all the attacks on this topic. I have no argument with you. There is always room to improve in any school district. Keep up the good work & GO EAGLES

Anonymous said...

well said

Anonymous said...

Thanks

Anonymous said...

This was on today's newsletter from DHS.

Students who have articles of clothing with Mrs. Ulberg need to bring the t-shirt that you borrowed back, and then you may receive your personal items. If this is not taken care of by Friday, your personal items will be disposed of.
According to Judge Judy, you may not hold personal items hostage because of a debt. What do you think Barry?

Anonymous said...

Okay maybe not wussies but certainly Drama Queens.

Anonymous said...

Coaches accept the responsibility of training young people and making them better athletes. TRAINING is the key word there. Children come to athletics for that training... they do not all come as a conditioned athlete! It is the coaches job to get them into proper conditioning and coaches who do not understand how to do that should not be coaching!
I coached for years and my first priority was the safety of my kids...not winning! I would never be able to live with myself if I had caused an irreversible tragedy.
School systems should mandate that ALL coaches have 6 or more hours of the athletic training courses that focus on taking care of one's athletes and proper handling of weather conditions that could be problematic. We now pay attention to lightning... isn't that because of the deaths that have occurred due to athletes dying on practice fields? Heat is no different and if conditions are not proper for young, unconditioned athletes to be running, then precautions should be taken. The PARENTS had no control of this situation. They simply put their faith and trust into people the school deems are certified educators who should know proper procedures. Do these coaches have any athletic training hours? I have to believe they do not because in just the basic training classes heat conditions are taught.

Anonymous said...

I am going to post this again, because I don't think some people have read it. The coaches did not ignore the heat or put anyone in danger. Please read below. These ARE the facts.

Let us be sure that we get the facts straight about this event. It was 11:00 a.m. The temperature at that time was 90 degrees. The heat index was 92 degrees. Water was available. 9 of the 10 children were able to complete the mile, and yes it was a mile. They ran the mile and then jogged for a cool down while the others finished the mile. They then were able to jog back to the lockerroom, change clothes, go to their school lockers, go to the cafeteria, eat lunch, and then have heat problems. The facts, that's all.

Just one other fact. People forget that the ozone level orange (or otherwise)does not necessarily include Decatur. The ozone levels shown on the local DFW news stations is referring to the metroplex. Decatur usually has much less pollution and ozone levels than the metroplex proper