8.23.2005

Is this 1865?

Out at lunch today in Decatur, I saw a motorcycle go by with the confederate flag attached to the back of the seat. So, in the year of our dear Lord 2005, what message was he trying to convey? Edit: I had no idea this was such a hornet's nest!

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

White Trash Power!

Anonymous said...

The Confederate flag has been made into a symbol of hate by people of all races. Some people still know what the true meaning of the flag is.

The square flag consisting of a blue St. Andrew's Cross, to celebrate their Scottish heritage,emblazoned with thirteen stars on a field of red and bordered by a narrow band of white was proposed and adopted as the unofficial battle flag of the Confederate forces.

It is a testimonial to southern heroes who yearned and fought for limited constitutional government and individual freedom. It stands as a true symbol of patriotism, dedication to family and a willingness to suffer and even die in defense of the South and its Christian culture.

Anonymous said...

It is sad that people everywhere have made a piece of history like the Confederate Flag into a hate symbol.

People should really think about the facts sometimes. First, the Confederate flag does not symbolize a struggle to preserve slavery, because the Civil War was not about slavery. It was caused by economic differences between the industrialized North and the agrarian South. The South exported cotton to England's Lancashire mills, and wanted to import manufactured products from English factories. Northern factory owners supported, and got, protectionist tariffs on English goods. The South saw these taxes as ruinous, and there were still living Americans who could remember another war that had started partly because of taxes.

There was friction between Northern abolitionists and Southern slave owners, but very few Southerners owned slaves; they were expensive. So.....

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately this honorable flag has become a symbol of hate instead of a symbol of respect for the men (many of whom were my grandfathers) who died for a cause they believed in.

IF THIS FLAG OFFENDS YOU - YOU ARE IN DESPARATE NEED OF A HISTORY LESSON!!!

atvtrlrdr said...

I have never owned a slave; My Dad never owned a slave; My Grandad never owned a slave; My Great Grandad never owned a slave but each of us is/was proud of our southern heritage and I believe the flag symbolizes something different today than it did in 1865.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure your average black man looks at a confederate flag and thinks "What a proud symbol of Southern heritage"

Anonymous said...

I would think that barry had more sense then to post show crazy comment like that. Or maybe he did it on purpose. You all know how he likes a good debate.

Anonymous said...

I am sure about the "average" black man but the intelligent black man probably knows the facts of the Confederate flag. They are out there in history books everywhere. Anyone who cares to learn about it can or I guess that they can walk around calling people racist. It is a free country!

Anonymous said...

He probably had no message at all.

Anonymous said...

Oh please. The flag has little to do with the slavery issue. The confederate nation thumbed their nose at the union and basically said, 'fine, we can't see eye to eye so we instead will become our own nation and have our own government...so there' It is a symbol of rebellion so strong that it split a nation in two.

I'm from the south and both parents are from Georgia and that flag does not represent a proud heritage to everyone who is from the south. Personally, when I see it I think of the epitome of hate..the hatred of the south towards its nation.

Anonymous said...

black trash

Anonymous said...

anonymous #9 - I guess that the south should have just put their heads in the sand and let the north take advantage of them. That would be nice!

You are a piece of work!

Anonymous said...

sigh...you're so right. Much better to lose over 600,000 Americans and totally decimate the South to only lose the battle they started anyway.

Anonymous said...

Barry sure stirred the pot on this one. I bet he's laughing his behind off on this one.

Anonymous said...

Nice copy and paste job Anon #2:
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:-ajOO051FXMJ:www.truthinhistory.org/flag.htm+It+is+a+testimonial+to+southern+heroes+who+yearned+and+fought+for+limited+constitutional+government+&hl=en&client=firefox-a

I can tell your a Republican, and you personally believe everything that sounds convincing.
Comparing Confederalism with heroism, patriotism is just absurd. Takes real genius to fight your own nation. Yes, it is history-but as far as calling them heroes is just ridiculous.

Anonymous said...

So what if A-2 cut and pasted - anon # 14 You are wrong and mean. Every man or woman who has had the courage to fight for their country is a hero. Texans are proud of our heritage. Anon # 2 might be a republican but you must be a mean Yankee. You are the one who is ridiculous. p.s. i do believe their are nice yankees.

Anonymous said...

I agree anon #15, very well stated!!

On another note, do you ever want to know how many of the anonymous posts are actually written by the same person?? I do!!

boredatwork said...

This is cracking me up. I want more blogs like this!

wizard said...

Hey Anon.#14; as someone who lost ancestors fighting for the rights of states to be self governing, and read their personal thoughts in diaries, I hope someone challenges the legality of Texas's Leg. on personal property rights, wins, and comes after YOUR property to build a new football stadium. Maybe then you will understand what 1861 -1865 was really all about.

Anonymous said...

There are bigger things to worry about now, then a stupid flag from 1865. The flag shouldn't represent your heritage anyway-the land you walk on should. Stop giving everyone the line of "how much you have read", or how many of your family members died. I thank Barry for sticking this on the blog-it is always great to have a public debate, I love it. Especially in Wise County.