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3.22.2011

Breaking: Decatur ISD Brings In The Grim Reaper


Three administrators and 20 teachers are among those losing their jobs in a $4 million budget cut.

Messenger story should be here.

And remember, Republican Governor Rick Perry made Voter ID, Sonograms for those Seeking Abortion, and Sanctuary Cities as "Emergency Items" for legislative purposes. Oh yeah, he also said that the education funding crisis was not the state budget writer's fault but instead lands at the feet of local school districts.

And he'll continue to fiddle his 10th Amendment tune while Texas education burns.

Moving locally, this is from the 1/28/11 Update:
And from 1/21/11:
(As always, click to enlarge.)

112 comments:

Anonymous said...

As long as Decatur has coaches and a decent football field all this will blow over;after all they're only teachers.

Anonymous said...

Perry and the Repubs will keep killing education because educated people are too smart to support their uneducated policies. Fear the Hair.

Anonymous said...

Wow. But the superintendent has his raise. This is simply sickening news. I would love to hear again how DISD has plenty of money and is set to handle the low funding situation from the state. When are the good people of this town going to stop swallowing the garbage they are fed by the self serving board members? I hope those people who voted off the only TWO truly experienced educators who were on the board and could have handled this mess much more efficiently,without lies, understand what kind of crippling they have delivered to the children of DISD! 20 teachers lose their jobs...and that does not affect the students?
And the board members who have lied to this community should all be ousted! No exceptions! How dare they treat their neighbors as dullards! Please stop electing friends to the board. We need smart, experienced educators on our board. I am just sickened at the loss.

Anonymous said...

"Superintendent Rod Townsend explained that while those positions will be eliminated, the district will bring back at least one position in each area to continue the programs in some fashion."

WHAT THE HELL DOES THIS MEAN?

Anonymous said...

How is a "state" budget cut, a school boards fault???

Anonymous said...

I'll tell you what that means, 10:03. It means coaches will take those eliminated positions as their ONE other duty during the school day. That is what that means. Watch!

Anonymous said...

Perhaps Ron Townson will be willing to pick up the slack and teach those classes where 20 teachers are being eliminated. I'm sure with the large raise he received after only one year on the job, he would be glad to teach those classes. Remember, it's for the kids! In his spare time he could help maintenance and the teacher assistants too. Of course, students do not really need libraries. That would be considered 'fluff'. Libraries are not important to schools like sports are. We are so high tech and so far advanced from the "old days' when schools were expected to teach students.

Anonymous said...

10:10,
because schools get money from the state. Local schools have known for 7 years that this day was coming. Local school districts who are known as being "tight" will not face as many cut-backs.

Anonymous said...

You can blame the school board, the superintendent, the administrators, the coaches, the teachers, and everyone else all you want, however, the State of Texas may be taking over $4,000,000 out of our local economy. So, you may disagree, but don't blame the district, for what is happening.

Also, I don't believe for one minute that this is something the Superintendent or school board wants to do. I imagine it breaks their heart.

By the way, obviously no one else in the community thought they could do a better job because no one signed up to run for school board. It will be interesting to see who runs next time when we get back on track. I'm sure they will be happy to reap the rewards then.

Anonymous said...

This is all about retribution to the teacher's groups who voted against Perry and opposed his policies.

Anonymous said...

Where is the outrage? (Not talking about the person who regularly posts comments on this board.)

Where is the outrage against what is happening to public education across the state?? I get the impression that these cuts have barely appeared on the radar screen of the main stream media. (In the metroplex, this means the DMN, FWST, WFAA, etc.) Will no one step forward to call out the governor and lawmakers out on this issue? The Republican legislature is so cowed on the issue of raising taxes that they will not do what it would take to fix the problem. What we need is real leadership, but it is not going to happen. Instead, thousands of teachers will be laid off and Texas public education will be taken down another few notches. Might as well call Texas "Western Alabama."

Anonymous said...

For those of you that haven't noticed, every school district around us and all across the State are cutting jobs. Let me guess, you think this is because of all of the superintendents and school board members? Ignorant and uneducated to the facts is not permission to slander individuals that do work hard and volunteer their time and efforts to lead our schools. Bickering and willingly presenting disparaging comments only hurts our kids and the staffs that serve them. Oh wait, for some of you it was never about the kids and that's too bad.

Anonymous said...

Only two coaches????

Anonymous said...

The State does not even know where the money is going to go or come from so how do they know the exact amount of a short fall to a specific ISD?

This all seems so speculative but it is so final to these people....awful.

Anonymous said...

You've gotta love this. You make fun of the governor blaming the economic woes of education on the local districts, then in fine print you show how the local districts are mismanaging their money!! It's a laugh a minute on this blog.

Anonymous said...

wow i know educators would of corse done so much better of a job. oh wait they have never had a real job. 10 years on my job and guess what i still don't get 2 months of every summer 2 weeks at christmas and spring break every year.. and guess what if we had budget issues i could loose my job..

why is it that every time thr is a problem people blame it on the coaches. are they not teachers also but actually put in a real days work and i believe that they will have cuts also.

just saying

Anonymous said...

Look on the bright side, Loves will hire them to serve chicken.

Anonymous said...

10:03 It means they are getting rid of people they do not like to bring in someone they do.

Anonymous said...

Dear 1:40 am - this is an ongoing argument that people never get. Teachers only get paid for about 187 days but their paycheck is paid out over 12 months. So, you, as a regular full-time employee probably work over 240 days per year. So the math would say that the daily pay for a teacher with a $45k salary is about $240. If the work the same amount of days as you their annual salary would be about $57k. So remember, they don't get paid for the days during summer, spring break, thanksgiving or Christmas break.

Anonymous said...

1:40 - considering your spelling and other grammatical errors, did you even GET an education?

...and try following one teacher around for one week.

...you'd never last at doing what they do.

Anonymous said...

I wish there was some truth to the school systems. They spend too much money for things period. They spend too much money for administration cost period. They spend too much money on expansion and maintenance period. Teacher pay is not the problem it is the inablility to get stuff done a resonable expense. The good ole boy system is alive and well at the top and they spend all the money.

Anonymous said...

I somewhat agree with Perry. These school districts spend money like it's going out of style. Tell me, would Decatur's new High school cost as much as it did if you or I were building it? No, it would've been half that amount!

Anonymous said...

10:03:

This means that your west Texas football coach superintendent will bring back some of the memebers of the "brotherhood" and make sure that every skill area of the football team has @ least one coach/5 players.

Anonymous said...

Yea...make sure to keep the coaches...Mr. Football King will be loading my feed at TSC

Anonymous said...

Perry will laugh all the way to the spa.

Anonymous said...

Sports (primarily football) are priorities in our schools, because WE MAKE IT SO.

We just what America loves. Check out how many "sports" items are on this blog.

..play ball!

Anonymous said...

I've been saying for years that school districts could make extra money using their buses for special shuttle services - Love's Truck Stop.

Lyndon

Anonymous said...

Education is a state issue now. There is no Independent School District. The term "ISD" should've been dropped back in 1993 when passed by our lovely state government (then, mostly Democrats). For the past several years Republicans have been in 100% control of this redistribution of our wealth. We all pay in, and the Republicans manage/launder/handle/redistribute our money. They have done so poorly that we now are in a crisis. Besides the fact that the Robinhood system is unconstitutional (our state prohibits a state property tax, which is now effectively what we have), it takes all control from us locally and hands it the party in control in Austin.

Anonymous said...

Barry,

Find out how they are determining which teachers to cut, which is the real ed. reform question going on right now. Are those 20 positions going to be determined by LIFO or based on performance? That's what I am curious to know!

1:40, I'm a little surprised that you think good vacation benefits means it's not a real job. I've worked in the business world and I've taught, and while many jobs are hard and tiring and stressful, not many can compare to the responsibility and stress that comes with educating 150 students a day who all have individual gifts and deficiencies. You try standing up in front of 30 kids ranging across four grade levels in ability and get the same point across to all of them. Those of us who aren't stressed don't care enough. Until you've worked your butt off for a kid who ends up failing the state test and gets held back a year, and comes to you crying and feeling stupid, you're not really in a position to say that teaching isn't a real job. When done well, it's educating, theater, nursing, social work, and psychology all rolled into one. And as for the fact that everyone faces budget cuts and educators should stop whining, you should realize that most budget cuts don't affect CHILDREN in mass quantities.

Anonymous said...

I didn't see anyone note that the DISD last night eliminated the positions of ALL FIVE librarians. So next year the DISD will start educating kids without a single certified librarian anywhere on staff???

But only 2 of the 27 coaches have been let go???

Can we say skewed priorities?

Rage said...

Where is the outrage against what is happening to public education across the state??

Those of us who are very active in our kids' education aren't too worried about it. They can have a 50:1 student teacher ration and my kids will still do well.

In fact, the harder it is for other kids, the more mine will stand out.

The world needs ditch diggers too, after all. Just ask all the home schooled kids...

Anonymous said...

you people are idiots...if you don't like how things are going here in decatur...then leave!!! So tired of all the negative opinions that you all make after a deciscion has been made! I do fell terrible for the ones that lost there job but its our school boards fault!!

Anonymous said...

8:36 - so true. It won't change unless WE change it.

Anonymous said...

I get so sick and tired of uneducated people on this blog. It happens in Paradise, Alvord, Chico and now Decatur. Sports are a priority in school and it should be. Kids come to school to play sports, compete in Ag, be in the band. You take these things away you will lose kids in school. PERIOD. Coaches teach classes, they dont get hired to coach, they get hired due to their teaching field.

Barry,
Why do you post slander? Its funny how you were all over Fostels son. But would you have posted something negative about him, what about something negative about your family????

Jarhead said...

Why are you Wise Countian-ites worried about education anyway?

It's not like you ever use it.

Anonymous said...

Your Texas Governor is REQUIRED by your Texas Constitution to submit a balanced budget. The good people and businesses of Texas will not pay, in the next two years, enough taxes and fees to allow spending at current levels. The only meaningful chunks of the budget that the State can "work with" to balance the budget happen to be education, health care, prisons, roads, etc. Texans seem to want to keep drawing money out of a checking account with no money in it, and when the bank says no, we get mad at the banker.

fuzzy said...

When i was in school jr high had a 7th and 8th coach. we worked out together and they helped each other. high school had 4 coaches. football uniforms should not be a random issue,players should have to make the team or get cut. i watched a game a couple of years ago in Decatur and counted 68 players on the side line ,guess how many got to play in the game. nuff said

Anonymous said...

If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.

Anonymous said...

Perry and his ilk also prevent us from having casinos and all the revenue that comes from that. thanks alot nanny-state f*cktard.

Anonymous said...

I have never ask anyone in a job interview how good they were in sports in high school! I will ask about the education.

Anonymous said...

9:28 You ask people about their high school education? Are you a manager at Dairy queen?

Anonymous said...

Where's JE Carson and Bud Enis when you need them?

Anonymous said...

Obama lied, students died.

Anonymous said...

Decatur cuts 20 teachers but only 2 coaches

Anonymous said...

Will they save enough to get that artificial turf field? Golly, that would be so good.

Anonymous said...

Isn't it odd how the teacher to student ratio at Decatur High School is LOWER than the teacher to student ratio at the three Decatur elementary schools? Seems to me there is something wrong with having LARGER classes for young children and SMALLER classes for teenagers.

Anonymous said...

9:50, I believe 9:28 said they would ask about their EDUCATION. That implies any level of education. "High School" education was not specified. Most employers will ask about an applicants level of education and what degrees have been earned.

Anonymous said...

DISD's plan puts in writing that their priority is athletics and even that is skewed/comical....one and done.....but satisfied with "don't we have the best facilities in the district"

New supt is making 20K more than his predecessor! Not to mention an Asst supt position for his wife!!!!!!!!!


I am ashamed of these7 men! Old timers tell me it could be worse, but I don't see how. Where are the men of character in our district?

Anonymous said...

Saving babies, protecting our voting rights and enforcing our
laws important, think so.

Fancy ass sports facilities and
schools looking like cathedrals, not so much.

Bill White lost, deal with it.

Anonymous said...

When will people wake up? It should not be the government's place to pay for a child's education. It's the parents place to do so. If you can't afford to pay for you child's education, then don't have a child. What gives you the right to put the burden on the government, ISD or me? Because my next door neighbor has a car, It's not mine nor the government's place to put gas in it for him to drive it. The government shouldn't pay for my child to get through school. If this hurts you feelings, get over it. Pay for you childs education. I have paid my share of ISD taxes and I didn't mind. It was my place to do so. My children are grown and I'm still paying ISD taxes. This is crazy. Even after sending my children through colege, at some point the loans are paid off. Why isn't that way for the ISD. I will forever be paying that with no end in site. This needs to turn around and make people responsible for their own children. This has been coming for a long time.

Anonymous said...

10:26 They said they would not ask about sports in HIGH SCHOOL, but would ask about the education (in HIGH SCHOOL clearly implied).

Anonymous said...

8:46 You are joking? Right?
"Coaches teach classes, they dont get hired to coach, they get hired due to their teaching field."
If you are not joking, you are VERY misinformed!

Remote Controller said...

Since everyone commented, I will too.

It all ends up on our shoulders. No matter what we say or who we blame, it is still our fault. We wait for pain to come (knowing it is coming) and just sit idly by until it is time to blame.

We leave our taxes, children, selves in the hands of others and then let "them" decide what to do. Then we cry foul when it doesn't go the way we want.

tsk tsk

Anonymous said...

I wonder how much dough gets wasted on teaching all of these illiterate Wetbacks how to speaky the engleesh....???

Anonymous said...

The Booster Boys would riff thirty to forty teachers to protect the "one and doners."

The GT and Library (one each) persons rehired will essentially be new central office staffers overseeing the programs in six campuses. So much for central office feeling any of the pain.
(As if Louis and Marie Superintendent are capable of feeling pain)

There is no way the GT and Library probrams will be of any quality. No one person can do it. More smoke and mirrors.

Anonymous said...

My educator wife grieves for what is happening at DISD, but I sorta wonder: if we can have school next year with 1.7M less worth of personnel and 700K less in non-personnel why haven't we been??????

Who will be accountable for this excess?

Anonymous said...

The question is not can we have school. It's possible to have school with no more than a handful of teachers so long as you don't mind loading the classes with 50 or 60 kids a piece.

The question is...what kind of school will we have?

Anonymous said...

Speaking of Louis and Marie,

Imagine getting a text last night from your principal to report this morning to his office at 7:30.

Arrive and find out you're riffed!!! Come in early, no less.

May it some day come around to that principal and Supt.

Anonymous said...

some of you idiots (family and friends of board members, no doubt) ask why we blame the DISD? Obviously, the answer is because of HOW the cuts are distributed. They're not responsible for the actual cuts, but to give a superintendent a RAISE and to improve the ATHLETIC PROGRAM and KEEP COACHES AND LET GO ACTUAL REAL TEACHERS is an outrage. That's the answer to your idiotic question.

Anonymous said...

Thank you 12:27!!! So glad someone else is asking the same thing I am! (and I work in education, too!) I understand that numbers of students change each year and it's hard to adjust EVERY year, but sometimes I think a "use of personnel" evaluation is important. As a tax payer, how come we dn't re-evaluate more often? As a tax payer, I'm personally thrilled we are having to do things within our means. Only wish the gov't would do the same thing from the top down!

Anonymous said...

8:46 must be a coach or coache's wife. No, athletics SHOULDN'T be a priority. Most of us don't give a damn whether we even have an athletic program. I had 3 kids graduate from DISD and they would have been just fine without any athletics at all. That's nothing but fluff and fun and to cut actual teachers and retain coaches is simply ludicrous. I'm sure that word is too large for most athletes to comprehend, so look it up.

Anonymous said...

Ok REMOTE CONTROLLER - your brilliant last sentence is laughable.

Will YOU run for the school board?

Anonymous said...

The fact that classroom teachers were being notified early this morning that their jobs were cut says the district is cutting people before knowing how many will resign. Saying this is being done for the good of the person so they can resign and get some of the incentive money is a crock.
If they resign now, what chance do they have of being rehired? Not much! Truth is lacking here! This plan has to have been set out weeks ago by teacher name to be able to call in teachers so quickly! Now what! If we have too many resign, we will need teachers! Who is in charge?

Anonymous said...

1:07,

Thought he was some negro singer.

Anonymous said...

6:17 AM

They get the summers off and can also work then to make MORE money. An office worker can't do that.

Before giving some lip about how hard it is, blah, blah, blah.... I have worked in the corporate world and in the schools. Teaching is a piece of cake in comparision.

Mr. Mike Honcho said...

Re: Teachers getting "all that vacation time" compared to "my REAL job."

Wrong. Teachers only get paid for the DAYS they work. And then the district spreads it out over all 12 months.

Re: Its not the State's responsibility to profide for Children's education.

Wrong. Texas was founded as a republic and from its early days under President Lamar made commitments that all children will be educated at the expense of the government, i.e. the people. This was further defined after annexation into the US by our State constitutions of 1845 and our current verion of 1876.

The State DOES have the job of paying for the public education of ALL children in our state. All races. All economic backgrounds. If you don't like it you can move or get the laws changed.

Anonymous said...

So we can keep both....Cut teachers that arent coaches....hire people that can coach and teach....all problems solved.

Anonymous said...

i would gladly follow a teacher around all day it starts at 7:45 and ends around 5 sign me up. and guess what the jobless rate effect children every day. just because it effect teachers now does not make it any worse.
Do the coaches not have classes? if not get rid of them but i think they do. And as for those kids that come and cry because they didn't pass a test i would say thats life its not far. everyone doesn't get a trophy!!!!
sorry to offend the english teachers with the grammar but it shows that they don't have any thing else to worry about. if i had the free time of a teacher i would worry more about it
Have a great summer!!
just saying!!!

Anonymous said...

1:07...what about those who achieve scholarships through athletics??? Did any of your kids receive an academic scholarship?? ....

Anonymous said...

Really, the disaster that is DISD is self explanatory considering: a supt who comes to Decatur to pad his last three years before retirement, board members who run to protect their relatives employed by the school, board members run to see their freshman sons on varsity, board members who run to get rid of a previous supt, board members asked to run by the AD, and one board member who can't remeber why he ran.

Why would we expect the budget crisis to be handled fair and judiciously, void of politics. and based on sound educational goals?



We are seeing the natural outcome.

Anonymous said...

After reading these comments (and others on this blog) and after taking a fresh look at the kind of folks who live in Decatur and our tax base, I have just come to the realization that we just don't have a very good school district.

Anonymous said...

1:28 from what I understand they are being called in, told they are on the list, then told to sign the "resignation." Sounds extremely fishy and under handed but what else is new?! Its not even all first year teachers, they are doing this to teachers with years of experience! GREAT idea (sarcasm) to get rid of the experienced teachers and keep all of the newbies.

Anonymous said...

Concerning teachers salaries, $45,000 a year is the same in 10 months as it is in 12 months. It is all paid by the year. If I make $45,000 and work 50 weeks a year, and a teacher makes $45,000 and works 40 weeks, we are both making the same amount of money. Why is it so difficult for people to understand that. The teaqcher just gets more time off during the year than I do. So who has the better paying job? Depends on how much you value your time off.

LEL

Anonymous said...

The board meeting last night was just a scripted version of a meeting already done in private. How could a meeting last only 1 hour when you are discussing people's livelihood and there was little or no discussion at all? Guess these were not issues as important as 6 lighted signs,new sidewalks at old field house and new roof.After all that is what the public sees!Oh and don't forget his wife's big salary.

Maybe all the parents that left the meeting last night after the UIL presentations should have stayed and asked some questions.One of the items cut was UIL and Gifted programs.It is going to take some parents and not just teachers to complain and call the wonderful supt. with the six figure salary!

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know how much our pompous athletic director makes per year? How about how much the superintendent makes? I bet you'd be VERY surprised at how close their salaries are. Hmmmmm.

Anonymous said...

No teacher in their right mind should sign a resignation letter. Sure, it keeps them from having to answer on future employment applications that they've never had a non-renewal of a contract, but it also prevents them from filing for unemployment.

How would you like to be a teacher looking for a job in this market? No thanks! Sign me up for my 99 weeks of unemployment bennies.

Goober said...

Hey 3:04:

From your lack of education (as evidenced by your writing skills) I can understand why you place so little value on the teaching profession. Try spending thousands of dollars for not 1 but 2 college degrees and live with the fact society doesn't consider your profession as economically important as some with less education. AS I've said before, MORON!!!

Anonymous said...

Where's the "know it all," who kept posting after the board voted to spend over a mil for facility improvements and give the supt a $10.000 raise, that DISD had planned for this shortfall and no teachers would be let go because DISD had plenty of money? Where are you now, you stupid moron? Evidently you are a newbie to the area or a board member's family member who doesn't grasp the CRAP that continually comes from teh DID boards year in and year out, decade after decade! When are you DREAMERS going to finally "get it" that folks who have lived/worked in Decatur for eons DO know how things work and we're sick of the crap.
Here's what I would love to see. I took the online survey the board had asking the community what kinds of cuts should be made. I'm betting there are tremendous numbers of folks answering on there that coaches jobs should be the first to go. But we have TWENTY teachers but only 2 coaching positions going? THAT IS IDIOCRACY at its peak! Then to put the icing on the cake.....throw out the librarians? ALL of them?
I am disgusted and ashamed of these decisions. And I also ask along with one of the commenters above, "WHERE ARE OUR MEN WITH CHARACTER IN THIS COMMUNITY?"
These actions show no integrity, no character, and absolutely NO INTELLIGENCE!
Pathetic, absolutely pathetic!

Anonymous said...

Where are the online survey results? They were not discussed at the meeting,nor even mentioned.Sure the public will NEVer see those results!!

Anonymous said...

3:04, you are the poster child for a poor education.

Anonymous said...

I am a former teacher and I am appalled that the school board places so little value on the libraries, which are actually media centers not, and on GT. But I also see the value in athletics. Both my children participated in athletics and excelled in academics. While the academics got them college scholarships, athletics taught them about teamwork, success, disappointment, winning well, and losing with grace.
We're missing the well-rounded education, the arts, the athletics, shop, home ec, etc....These are the things that make us viable adults.

Anonymous said...

All the teachers have to do is remember the one that were let go the next time "coach" ask for a little help with his star player's grade so they can play friday night. NO PASS NO PLAY on your Turf field azzhole. Why keep all of the coaches when one P.E. teacher can workout the whole class.

Anonymous said...

6:35, of course they weren't mentioned. Those were just appeasement tools for the citizens of the community to make them think the board would do as the community asked.

Anonymous said...

El Pompus makes 95K plus several expense accounts and benefits.

And for this we get "one and done."

Anonymous said...

It is a pity. So many great people, dedicated, longtime employed people are losing their jobs, and some made up titled people are keeping theirs. Do we really need 7 people in the DISD business office? Do we really need 9 people on the special programs staff? Do we really need 3 assistant principals at the high school? Do we really need 7+ not sure how many, office people in the high school? Do we really need a technology person that, well, not sure what she does,really, except takes the "super" to the National Finals Rodeo and attends lots and lots of meetings. Do we really need a coach teaching classes he doesn't want to teach so he takes it out on the kids, day after day after day? It is all nonsense. No one believes the DISD Administration or board members have the employees of this distrist's best interest at heart. It all comes down to who you know, who you like, who you have a contact with, and who is Junior's second cousin, twice removed that married your 4th cousin Annie Sue. Totally, ridiculous.

Anonymous said...

5:05
Sorry i type while going down the road but i believe its very simple. Get a degree that is worth a shit and stop crying!!!!

just saying

Anonymous said...

11:36, I am a teacher in Decatur, and I teach with some of the best coach/teachers around. Our coaches ALL teach in CORE areas, with possibly the exception of two or three. They are fine teachers, every single one of them - and if you don't take my word for it, I dare you to walk the halls and listen in on their classes any time, any where. You'll be so much more correctly informed for having done so.

However, when I was in high school, our coaches were for the most part, a joke in the classroom. It's sad but true. It's just not that way any more and I hope some day you realize that. Our schools can't afford to have deadbeat coaches OR teachers around; it's just a liability they seldom take on.

Anonymous said...

Thank you board members for what you do.

It is quite obvious that when you agreed to serve, you had no idea what was coming down from the Legislature, and I am sad for the grief you're taking from this blog.

I have no doubt that to RIF was never in your plan, nor those of ALL the schools across the state, but it's a necessary evil, and why the posters here don't get that is beneath me.

Why do you not understand that this is a state mandate and not an option. Find one school in the state not eliminating teachers and you'll be my hero!

As for coaches versus teachers being eliminated, has no one thought to mention that there are 5 campuses and coaches are only on two, so if you look at the percentages, it's quite actually equal.

And, I agree, coaches are also teachers, so when we lose a coach, we're also losing a teacher - DUH!

Anonymous said...

Why is it announced "Xschool has hired a new coach" instead of "Xschool has hired a new history teacher" if coaches are hired for teaching skills?

Anonymous said...

a few questions
1 do teachers know what they make when they take the job
2 does the economy not effect everyone
3 if thr jobs paid more would more men not be in teaching
4 do they talk to thr students about being well rounded
5 do they take thr own advise
6 do they get unemployment in the summer
7 do they have great benefits
8 does it suck dealing with kids and parents
9 do they work long hours

yes we all know that teaching is very important to the future but to think that every teacher is part of it don't kid your self.

no one wants anyone to loose thr job, but stop thinking that u r more important than the rest of use out thr trying to making it in todays economy.
GOOD LUCK IN THE REAL WORLD!

Anonymous said...

10:48

You have to be a board member's wife or a complete doofus. They not only knew what was coming down the pike (it's been in the news for three years) but I'll bet you a dollar's worth of donuts that to the man, to the man, all seven voted for Perry who they now try to lay the blame on.

Anonymous said...

I agree. I have never once been asked in a job interview what my 40 time was in high school. My bench press max has never been brought, nor has my record as a high school athlete. EVERY job i have ever taken asked about my education. I dont claim to be a rocket scientist, but I do understand the facts of life. It does not take 25 coaches to make a football program run. They could have cut 20 coaches and still had enough to get the job done. It's a shame.

Anonymous said...

Does this mean we are not getting turf!!!!

Goober said...

Hey! 10:27:

Thanks for confirming my assessment; "i type while going down the road". You endanger people lives so you can post on this blog? I say it again: MORON!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

10:27
didn't say i was driving just in a car. MORON!!!! enjoy the real world. 40 hours a week doesn't cut it any more. that why u made 45k a year u didn't work for a living!!!!!

teacher are very important just not ur lazy ass

Anonymous said...

My children have been in the GT program in DISD for years - unfortunately cutting it actually almost makes sense because what they call a "program" has been a farse and only been lipservice so they can collect money from the state while not servicing the actual needs at all. Unfortunately this district has not ever adequately dealt with students that are ever above average much less truly gifted. Teaching to the bottom rung....

Goober said...

Actually 10:27, I work in a bank where I could buy and sell you over and over. How do I come to enjoy this kind of a cushy job? I HAVE AN EDUCATION!!! And having a wife who teaches, I know what they deal with trying to EDUCATE dumbass, ignorant kids like YOU would produce.

Anonymous said...

7:44 AM
"6 do they get unemployment in the summer"

No, they do not. I belive one has to be unemployed for 90 days to collect unemployment.

Anonymous said...

1 . yes
2 . huh?
3 . yes
4 . yes
5 . yes
6 . no
7 . no
8 . no
9 . yes

Mr. Mike Honcho said...

7:44am...

1.) yes.
2.) yes.
3.) wtf? umm, maybe?
4.) yes. When the state isn't cramming taks, stars, or whatever the hell flavor of the month test is out there.
5.) ???
6.) no. They receive zero pay for the days they are not at school.
7.) no. Their benefits are nowhere near what same size companies in the private sector have.
8.) yes. For every story of a crappy/lazy/bad teacher you can tell, I'll betcha I can tell you about 10 crappy/lazy/bad parents and the kids they raise, (or don't, actually).
9.) not really.

BTW, I don't think most teachers are mad because of job cuts. They just get tired of hearing how "cushy" they have it.

You know, if so many think its cushy then they are welcome to go become one.

Anonymous said...

so 2:16 are you a slave owner? is that what you are saying or would like to be one.

no one has said teachers dont work hard but dont tell us that it is worse than the rest of the world. no one want to see any one unemployed. most people just dont think that the teachers loosing thr jobs is any worse the the 10% of Americans that are still trying to find jobs. Oh thanks to big banks HOW WAS UR BALL OUT MONEY

Anonymous said...

i got me an education and work in a bank everyone clap for me im so special what ever banker boy!!!! u work for the man dont kid yourself. if u told me u wer self employed i would believe you. just wait for your pink slip!!!

Anonymous said...

I feel terribly sorry for anyone who does NOT teach. You don't get the joy of watching the daily academic growth of marvelous young humans. You don't get the thrill of seeing the light of understanding dawn on a young face. You don't get to see them glow with satisfaction when they master a difficult concept/complete a complex process. I'm so sorry-I do wish that every single one of you could experience what we get to feel on a daily basis.

Anonymous said...

7:05, how much more syrupy sweet can you get? It's teachers like you who don't help teachers get raises or better conditions. Shut up!

Anonymous said...

It isn't any sadder that teachers are losing their jobs than any other people losing theirs. What many of you seem to be missing is the ramifications for the kids. No librarians, GT, less choice in classes and less teachers, and less school event trips is not an improvement in our school.
DecaturISD has around 12 million in their account. They are contributing 1.5 mil to this shortage. What are they saving the other 10 mil for? If it isn't for times like this then what is it for? Watch, when this dies down it will be spent on turf and athletic improvements. Isn't that more important than all this other stuff we are cutting? The board giving lip service to caring about academics is a joke!

Anonymous said...

7:46
I'm sorry that you're so bitter.
I earn $50,000 a year (after 13 years of teaching), and the conditions in my school are wonderful. The parents are, for the most part, supportive, and the kids are amazing. The administrators go to the mat for teachers every time it's necessary. I wake up every single morning excited about going to work.

I'm not thrilled about the TELPAS paperwork I have to complete this week, and I wish we weren't losing two days of instruction to STAAR field testing the first of April, followed by TAKS later in the month. But NONE of that takes anything away from the sheer joy I get from being in the classroom.

I have no idea how my personal satisfaction with my job, or my delight with my school, prevents others from getting raises or better working conditions. I used to work in a Wise County school, and when the stress got so great that I DIDN'T wake up looking forward to work, I left and found a school I love. I hope that you will eventually do the same.

Anonymous said...

8:04 - It is actually $3 million - $1.5 million per year for the next two years until the Legislature meets again.

Do you really want to start draining your savings account on recurring costs? What if this stupid legislature doesn't fix the problem or, heaven forbid, the budget cuts are higher than thought?

You can't commit to paying for payroll out of savings account. It would be like paying your mortgage from your Savings account.

Anonymous said...

"Bitter" Seems to be the first thing folks slap back with when someone disagrees with them. Have you folks ever heard of 2 sides of the story? Or, right and wrong? Just because someone disagrees doesn't make them bitter. In fact, I'd be willing to believe whoever throws that term out so easily must have the most experience with the emotion.
Might want to think about that.
Maybe someone is in a difficult situation. Are you saying because they voice their opinion about that then they are bitter? Maybe they're just "right!"

Anonymous said...

9:08 I repeat... what are we saving the money for? Most cost involved in a school are reoccurring. Replacing carpet, heaters, athletic facilities, helmets, jerseys, buying furniture or whatever is reoccurring. In the past many of these things have been taken care of by bonds. I just think that you save money for emergencies and this is one.

To use your analogy if I lose my job and am about to lose my house you can bet I will make some payments out of my savings account. Then I will start trying to build the savings account back up.

Some of you seem to have a very low opinion of teachers which is sad considering they are involved in shaping our future generations. Some are incompetent and complain but most I know really do want to change lives for the better and have a heart for kids. The negative opinions expressed by some of the thoughtless people here are one of the reasons most teachers feel unappreciated and many get out of the profession. Think about it, if having summers off is such an awesome perk and teaching such an easy job, why do so many give that up to go back to jobs that often don't pay more for working all year. The average teaching career last less than 5 years, odd for such an easy job.

Anonymous said...

BTW, 10:48 is not married to anyone in the school district, or to anyone even remotely connected to any school district!

Anonymous said...

9:33

I assume that people who tell others to "Shut up," and blame those who express satisfaction with their jobs for the lack of "raises or better conditions" are people who are dissatisfied with their own conditions, and they feel unable to change those conditions. "Bitter" is pretty apt in such cases.

Sorry if I didn't recognize "Shut up" as civil, intellectual discourse designed to foster discussion. I recognized "Shut up" as an attempt to get me to cease voicing MY opinion-you know-that whole "2 sides of the story" thing you mentioned.

Pardon me now-I have a student coming in at 7:00 for help on a scholarship essay.

Anonymous said...

I think there is something more to keeping a good fund balance. It has something to do with when the state pays the district and the district has to cover expenses with cash from savings until a payment is received. I'm not sure about that but I heard it somewhere.

So, if monthly expenses is $1 million and you don't receive a payment for 4 months then you have to have $4 million to make payments until you get your check from the state.