3.12.2009

Random Thursday Morning Thoughts

  • "A Baghdad court has sentenced an Iraqi journalist who threw his shoes at former U.S. President George W. Bush to three years in prison for assaulting a foreign leader." I hope they don't suffocate from all that new found freedom over there.
  • A commenter is now furiously typing, "But Saddam Hussein would have put him to death!!!" I call that the, "Oh, yeah? What about you?" argument: The method of distracting criticism by comparing the criticized conduct to something worse. I bet there's a technical name for that.
  • I made it halfway through Forgetting Sarah Marshall last night. Pretty funny, but it's no The Heartbreak Kid - a movie that I like 100% more than anyone else.
  • Forbes has released it's list of World's Richest People. Hey, there's a drug lord on there.
  • This obituary of a teenager goes with this shocking crime out of Graham. (Credit.)
  • My junior high basketball coach once told our team, "If you can't beat a man one on one, you don't need to be on this court." That's always bugged me.
  • An irate caller on KLIF this morning said our country is "fat, lazy and stupid" and it wouldn't hurt for us to have to learn what it is like to "sacrifice and suffer." Probably right.
  • He also added that sometimes he thinks it would be a good idea to let the country implode in order to see if the current generation, when faced with the crisis, is "worthy of America." I think I agree with that, too.
  • As a long time Baylor supporter who is a fan of Hall of Fame linebacker "Mike Singletary" it's weird to watch a Texas Tech basketball game who has a pretty good player named "Mike Singletary."
  • For Ticket Fans only: The Fake Billy Tubbs and the Ed Carter Sports Reports may be my favorite bits.
  • As I still consider my trip across the South, I found a tour of mansions in Natchez, Mississippi. Ten years ago I wouldn't have been remotely interested in such a thing.
  • I've started watching The Daily Show with Jon Stewart again. His monologue is always funny, but something has happened to his "chit chat with our correspondent" segment.
  • Random thing heard on the news this morning: Do people still wear galoshes?
  • There's a K&G commercial disguised as a news 911 call. I hate it.
  • If I were in charge of commercial/ad design as my job, I'm pretty sure after my presentation to sell it to the client I would hear, "That's just weird" a lot.

62 comments:

Anonymous said...

If a visiting foreign leader to the U.S. had a shoe thrown at him by an American journalist what would you say Barry? You'd talk about what a piece of trash he is and what an embarassment he is to the country and that's why American's have such a bad reputation world wide. But, since you hate George W. Bush, you think it's a great deal and think that the guy is being mistreated. Boo freakin' hoo for that guy. He deserved what he got. Would he have gotten death under Saddam? Who's to say? Probably. What do you think is going to happen to the guy that threw the shoe at the Iranian President the other day? I bet we never find out. Quit being an apologist for every moron on the planet.

Anonymous said...

The term is "deflecting."

mzchief said...

To Barry...
"I call that the, "Oh, yeah? What about you?" argument: The method of distracting criticism by comparing the criticized conduct to something worse. I bet there's a technical name for that."

It is called The Obama Excuse.

We have all heard Obama utter, countless times, "Unlike my predecessor I've decided to [insert social engineering scheme of your choice] and will save the economy and make better the lives of all Americans." We have heard COUNTLESS Democrat senators and representatives declare, Where was all the outrage when the Republicans were spending tax payer dollars? At least now, we are spending money that will help America."

Anonymous said...

THey should hang that worthless chunk of trash for throwing like a girl, what is this world coming too when a full grown man throws a damn shoe like jr high girl.


i am pissed

the fake bobby v

Anonymous said...

Well Chuck it's good to be here

mzchief said...

To Barry....
None of my friends and/or their children, my husband, son or I are "fat, lazy, and stupid." Perhaps, you should stop being lazy and stupid and associate with a better class of people so you will realize the majority of Americans do NOT "have to learn what it is like to 'sacrifice and suffer.'" because they have made the RIGHT choices to AVOID their having to "sacrifice and suffer." None of my friends were teenage parents, did drugs, did time or dropped out of high school. Come to think of it, ALL of my friends made the effort to obtain additional training/education after high school to enable them to provide for themselves and their children.

Barry, if you HONESTLY believe everyone in the U.S. needs to "sacrifice and suffer" what have YOU done to assure that YOU are among the first people to learn how to "sacrifice and suffer?"

Anonymous said...

Oh how I love stripes!!

Jarhead said...

I think mz got you there, BG.

ZING!!

Oh yeah and "But Saddam Hussein would have put him to death"!!!

Anonymous said...

WELL SAID, 8:29.

BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Re: Stripes!!
Looks like 2 hogs fighting to get out of a gunny sack.

The Wizard of Oz said...

8:29, what you have utilized is the straw man argument aided by a healthy dose of hyperbole. You have made up what you characterize as "Barry's" position and made it extreme, so that you can more easily "defeat" it. Sadly, many readers will buy it. Barry didn't say/write/take any of the positions that you have ascribed to him.

It's one thing to ignore any and all facts that conflict with your conclusion (Wordkyle). But, making up a fictional argument and indicating that it comes from the mouth of your adversary is...lying.

Is it so wrong for Barry to draw a contrast between the penalty that would result from throwing a shoe at someone in the U.S., Great Britian, Canada, France, Germany, Japan, or any other democratic country... and the penalty received in Iraq? Doesn't that say something about the relative concepts of freedom and government control between the countries?

We can argue all day about which country has the better approach for handling such crimes. That's an argument I wouldn't mind having or reading. But, I'd rather you state your position and base it on facts, rather than fabricating what you wish was Barry's position.

butters said...

What the hell are galoshes??? I guess thats before my time...

Anonymous said...

The new COMCAST commercial irritates me so bad I cancelled my cable and went to Satelite last night.

Anonymous said...

I like (not) the commercial of the man & woman riding the bike and the woman has like 6 feet of underarm hair blowing in the wind.

Anonymous said...

Saddam died because Bush Jr. wanted to finish his daddy's business. Then we got to see the gory hanging via video.

Ok, fine, but Bush acting like a God fearing Christian zealot in the meantime - go figure.

Bush was just another, "do as I say and not as I do" Christian.

The world is full of em'.

Anonymous said...

I have seen all of those historic homes except 3. It is very interesting + there are some beautiful ones in LA. I visited them before they were on the internet. The Nottoway Plantation home is the largest in the South and is LA.

Anonymous said...

Maybe they should have made the dude wear his shoes around his neck as punishment? I've heard some of those folks have some pretty bad BO going on. Just sayin.

Anonymous said...

9:10 Wizard of Oz - Dang! you are good. Are you some hotshot lawyer or something?

Anonymous said...

9:10

You are the one making assumptions about 8:29. The question posed by 8:29 was "What would you say if a visiting foreign leader had a shoe thrown at him by an American journalist?" I don't see how that's reducing Barry or putting words in his mouth. Or ascribing him a position. Plus, it's not just "someone" that got a shoe thrown at them. It's the LEADER of a country!!! They are treated differently. I realize that if someone throws a shoe at me, they probably won't get three years in prison. That's fine. Do you see the difference? A position/ ideology was given to him when it was said that Barry hated GWB. But, you go by what you see. Barry puts GWB down on a consistent basis and celebrates his shortcomings on a consistent basis. (Look at this blog) Do you do that to people you like? Barry consistently defends people that do stupid things and get punished for it. I realize that's his job, as a lawyer. But, sometimes people get what they earn. This guy, according to the Iraqi's, earned 3 years in prison. Why shouldn't someone be punished for behaving contrary to the laws and guidelines set forth by their respective country? I am 8:29. Who are you? Are you Barry's mom? He's a big boy, he doesn't need you to fight his battles and defend him.

Gorilla said...

I think Jim Cramer is going to be on Jon Stewart's show tonight. Should be a pretty interesting show after Stewart's CNBC rant last week (look for it on youtube - pretty funny).

Anonymous said...

9:10, you really nailed it/them. They are so blind that they couldn't see the truth if it jumped up and slaped them in the face.

Anonymous said...

9:00 AM mzchief ...

""None of my friends and/or their children, my husband, son or I are "fat, lazy, and stupid." "........

Not sure if you are fat or lazy. But as Forrest Gump once said, 'Stupid is as stupid does'.
Moral indignation and self righteousness is very unbecoming.

In my experience, people who feel the need to constantly tell others how great they are, usually aren't.

Anonymous said...

"This obituary of a teenager goes with this shocking crime out of Graham." Sad deal. but not sure of the point you are trying to make with this????

mzchief said...

To anonymous 10:02...
Jealous, much!
*SMuG GRiN*

Anonymous said...

So Barry, u runnin the 5k on May 23rd for JAckie?

Anonymous said...

it's very sad...I have fought Men, Striked a man out of Anger, said horrible things that I wish I could take back...but I have yet to understand how someone could harm a Child..maybe that makes me normal..I worked as a Funeral Director and was around the Amber Hagerman case in Arlington...and still to this day it truly baffles me how someone could harm a child or young person..God Bless her Family and if Guilty I hope he gets his Punishment

wordkyle said...

Why do people keep bringing me into their arguments? WoOz implies that I'm guilty of something, without providing evidence of what he accuses me of. This, during a rant criticizing someone else's debate methods. Sheesh.

It's a comfort to me that I gall you enough so that you feel compelled to attack me when I'm not even involved. Effectively toe-tagging one's adversaries is like a warm, soft blanket. Glad I'm ever gentle on your mmind.

Anonymous said...

Shoe Thrower -

Quite a contrast to the Bush/Cheney position that "we would be greeted as liberators in Iraq ".

In fact, they have built a monument to their hero, Muntadhir al-Zaidi, the shoe thrower!

Just one of many examples of the faulty judgement on the part of Bush and his administration on their decision to go to war with Iraq.

Silicone Alley said...

What the heck are galoshes?
Sounds like some kind of cajun food.

Anonymous said...

Gay or not Gay is my personal fav!

Anonymous said...

ain't galoshes that stuff that looks like hamburger helper, or is it like condoms for your feet??

Anonymous said...

"it would be a good idea to let the country implode in order to see if the current generation, when faced with the crisis, is "worthy of America." I think I agree with that, too.

Thank you Barry for your wisdom here. I agree with you about 35% of the time. Americans do not know what it is to be poor. In the mid 1950's the wealthiest, living in Highland Park, did not have central air conditioning. Most of them did not have automobiles that would shift gears automatically. They did not have garbage disposals. Their car windows would not roll down with the touch of a button. These were the wealthiest people in our society. The Whitehouse did not get air conditioning until the mid 1930s. The president sweated.

So do not say that the least of us is not wealthy. Consider medical care. Both my grandmother and her father died of the influenza. They did not have cephalexin or any of the superior antibiotics that we all, even the illegal aliens, have access to. Just look at the Walmart $5 and $10 list of prescription drugs.

Stop complaining and thank our creator for giving our founding fathers and those who followed them the wisdom and capitalistic spirit to provide a good life for us all. I do not make $40,000 per year but I am extremely rich living in my 1,300 square foot home that is paid for and has central heat/air and an indoor toilet. By the way, when I was about 9 years old, I saw my first indoor bathroom at a new school I just transferred to. I did not know what all the ceramic fixtures were for. I actually used the urinal for the wrong purpose. We were poor. Still, I was able to use the G.I. Bill and work my way through college, getting a degree in mathematics.

Let the banks fail. Those that survive will know not to make the same mistakes. Let the people who do not pay their mortgage be foreclosed on. My home is paid for and I have worked hard and do not drive a new car every few years. I do not believe that I, through taxation, am responsible for those greedy people for failing. Don’t make me pay for the mortgage on their 4,000 square foot McMansion. I look at the devaluation of real estate as an opportunity for us wealthy Americans to afford a home.

I just read that several banks receiving the bailout money, including Citibank and Bank of America have already loaned billions of it in China and other countries. This bailout is so bad that I believe that the leaders of this country need to pack their bags and leave Washington D.C. We surely can find a Democrat with more wisdom than they are showing. Barry, how about it? Want a job?

The Wizard of Oz said...

8:29/9:53, you should probably read all of your post before stating things like, "I don't see how that's reducing Barry or putting words in his mouth".

Here are the things you said that put words in Barry's mouth:

...You'd talk about what a piece of trash he is and what an embarassment he is to the country and that's why American's have such a bad reputation world wide.

...you hate George W. Bush, you think it's a great deal and think that the guy is being mistreated.

...Quit being an apologist for every moron on the planet.

Those are not questions my friend. I agree that Barry doesn't need me to fight his battles. However, I find your style of argument to be unhelpful and a distraction.

Wordkyle, I was simply using you as an example of another argumentative technique that I don't like, but that I don't find nearly as offensive the one utilized by 8:29. Don't get warm & fuzzy, I just belive(d) that most readers of this blog have read enough of your many postings to clearly understand what I was talking about. It's sort of short-hand reference to an example with which we are all too familiar, much like labeling your posts as being full of "...sound and fury..."

butters said...

Still, no one has told me what galoshes are...I'm waiting!!!

Anonymous said...

Wordkyle, Just permit me the observation that you continually attempt to establish your argument by declaring your opponent's position. Your use of your "interpretation" as the other person's position is self-serving and patently obvious. Then you like to claim no one refutes your "evidence." This may be because few choose to waste their time (as I am now) discussing anything with one of so closed a mind.

Anonymous said...

galoshes = rubber boots to wear in the rain

RPM said...

Wow, I'm really impressed with The Wiz. But it's even better if you play Dark Side of the Moon at the same time.

Anonymous said...

"..You'd talk about what a piece of trash he is and what an embarassment he is to the country and that's why American's have such a bad reputation world wide.

...you hate George W. Bush, you think it's a great deal and think that the guy is being mistreated.

...Quit being an apologist for every moron on the planet."

Wizard of Oz, have you read what is consistently on this blog? Through Barry's posting's these three things you've cited are not gigantic leaps. As I said earlier, I went with what is indicated by what Barry says.


Your name is very appropriate.

The Wizard of Oz was an illusionist that tricked people into thinking he was more than he was.

Anonymous said...

Galoshes: rain protection rubber overshoes.


There ya go!

Anonymous said...

Galoshes: A type of waterproof rubber boots slipped over shoes to keep them from getting muddy or wet. Sometimes called "rain boots."

Anonymous said...

"Don't forget your rubbers, chiefy!"
~Cap'n Quint
Jaws

Farewell and adieu, ye fair Spanish maidens/
Farewell and adieu, ye ladies of Spain...

wordkyle said...

WoOz & Anon 1237: Examples? I often examine Liberals'/Democrats' positions based on their actions and their words. I understand that I'm taking my chances on doing that -- their intentions seem to be what they want to be judged by. So I plead guilty to that offense. You kids are implying certain things -- "clearly understood" according to WoOz -- without illustrating your point. Please do so. It will be amusing to see what you come up with. (Let me hasten to add: until my name was brought up, I was uninvolved and relatively uninterested. Now I am thoroughly engaged.)

Anonymous said...

Wizard 12:18 PM

"It's one thing to ignore any and all facts that conflict with your conclusion (Wordkyle)."
......

Yes, we all understood your reference to wordkyle's debate style. It is absolutely true. During the many debates on this blog, wordkyle continuously disregards facts.

He is willfully ignorant. Unwilling to admit when he is wrong. Rigid in his thinking. Brainwashed.
It is a waste of time.

Anonymous said...

Nice to see that TXSharon is still around.

Anonymous said...

Here's somethin I was just thinkin about a little earlier:

Yep Bart,Mzchief pretty much called you and anyone like you a dumbass so do the right thing and hit the delete button on her account...do it now.

Mzchief you're still a Tard no matter what.

wordkyle said...

(yawn) Lots of claims about these "facts" that I ignore. I keep hearin' it, never seein' it. The pain I cause you must go clear to your marrow. That paucity of ideas on your side holds you back, doesn't it? Normally, I don't like causing people pain, but when it comes to Liberals, I turn the "compassion" dial down pretty low.

So far we've had insults and implications, assumptions and generalities, but nothing in the way of proof or evidence. (Next tactic: claim that evidence and proof are "wasted" on me because I'm too blind/stupid/closeminded to accept the truth.) How about this: Your choice to use character assassination instead of data indicate the shallowness of your arguments. The fact that multiple posters try the same thing indicate that its a common trait among Liberals. Tsk, tsk. Poor Liberals. No wonder they oppose standardized tests.

chupacabra said...

DON'T play the Wizard Of OZ while listening to the Dark Side Of The Moon if you can't handle an acid trip.

Anonymous said...

He assaulted a countries leader.

Anonymous said...

"Is it so wrong for Barry to draw a contrast between the penalty that would result from throwing a shoe at someone in the U.S., Great Britian, Canada, France, Germany, Japan, or any other democratic country... and the penalty received in Iraq? Doesn't that say something about the relative concepts of freedom and government control between the countries?"

Hmm, pardon me 9:10 there little fella- you MIGHT have been puttin' some words into Barrys mouth.

Anonymous said...

I've still got peaches on my knees CHUCK!

Anonymous said...

"He also added that sometimes he thinks it would be a good idea to let the country implode in order to see if the current generation, when faced with the crisis, is "worthy of America." I think I agree with that, too. "

Trust me...a liberal lawyer does not want to be faced with a chaotic Texas if all the authorities were suddenly working on their own dime. It is probably already touch and go.

Anonymous said...

Obama has loosened restrictions on fetal stem cell 'research'.

Horray for baby killing!

LOL

Xanthippas said...

An irate caller on KLIF this morning said our country is "fat, lazy and stupid" and it wouldn't hurt for us to have to learn what it is like to "sacrifice and suffer." Probably right.

I'd be cool with that except that the suffering will probably not be proportional to the fatness, laziness or stupidity.

Anonymous said...

Mr Oz, I would venture to say you are a parasite lawyer and as such have brought about more inequality and misery than all the rich entrepreneurs combined.

If I'm wrong about you being a lawyer then you are just a retard who I'm glad I don't know.

I would rather read wordkyle's posts than anyone else, even when I don't agree with his stance. He tends to be factual, concise, and polite.

You are missing all of these qualities and if you accidentally choked on a chicken bone and died a slow death alone with your naked pictures of Michelle Obama I wouln't even think that was unusual

Anonymous said...

"The method of distracting criticism by comparing the criticized conduct to something worse [That occured regularly before the current criticism]. I bet there's a technical name for that."

You are correct sir! The technical name is "pointing out the facts."

Anonymous said...

Barry, you and the Dorothy (woOz) are nothing more than dumb asses.

Anonymous said...

6:03--------------

You are so correct:

1)The fat people have a storehouse of calories and as such are able to survive longer without food.

2) The lazy people conserve energy by existing in a semi-catatonic state, thus able to live with less sustenance than high energy folks.

3) Stupid people don't really know what the hell is going on anyway, avoiding the knowledge that they are in fact suffering at all.

So those who are fat, lazy, AND stupid are immuned to the coming implosion!

Hooray for Idiocracy

Anonymous said...

I'm just guessing here but try throwing a shoe at Obama and see if the SS doesn't drop you dead on the spot

Anonymous said...

What you might have missed in the Forbes caption of Shorty Guzman, drug lord billionaire, is that he is a tunnels expert. I kid you not.

Haven't I been trying to tell you guys about the importance of tunnels?

Anonymous said...

I just wanted to be #60

Anonymous said...

She's a brick.............house.....she's mighty mighty.

Anonymous said...

Galoshes are called rubbers up north.They are still the best way to keep your feet warm in the winter. You don't have to wear them all dayonly when yuo need them.In literature class when I aws in the sixth grade there was a story someone would have to read about putting rubbers on a six year old. Anyone that couldread that with a straght face passed.DAGO