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10.28.2008

A Serious Political Thought

I'm still not convinced that Obama will win seven days from now but he may very well be the next President. If that happens, the Republican Party, as we once new it, will be dead. And if doesn't happen this year, it will happen after four more. It's all a matter of demographics. And before I get flamed, this belief was actually the product of a conversation I had with a couple of right wingers six months ago. It was their idea, not mine. The reason? Minorities typically vote Democratic - that's not news. But it doesn't take many of them to push the Democrats over the 50% margin. And once that happens, there will be no turning back. Take a look at the census. That day is coming. And it may be one week away. I'm convinced that Ronald Reagan could not get elected today. That landslide of 1980 and 1984 came from an American public, and this is the most important part, that no longer exists. Yeah, it's a simplistic way of proving of it, but just think about The Brady Bunch, The Andy Griffith Show, or The Dick Van Dyke Show. It's almost like you're watching the History Channel when you looked at the way their lives were portrayed. Yeah, the Republican Party can get back into power at the national level by becoming more moderate - something McCain apparently realizes even now - but the true conservative will not be welcome. Rush Limbaugh went on a rant the other day that, win or lose, it is time to take back the Republican Party. His heart may be in the right place, but the numbers are against him. There's just not enough of those folks left to be a factor. Yeah, they are all over the place in little Wise County, but not nationally. I'm not saying it's a good thing or a bad thing. But I am saying that America changed right before our eyes. And far more quickly than any of us realized.

57 comments:

Anonymous said...

If the Republican party becomes more moderate, then it is not the Republican party anymore. Conservatism always works and liberalism never does, ie. The Great Society, The War on Drugs, and The War on Poverty. How has the trillions of dollars that have been thrown down a rat hole helped us?

Anonymous said...

OH HELL!!!!!!
WORDKYLE JUST HAD A CORONARY!!!!!!!!!!
DEFIBS UP!!!!!!
GET YOUR DEPENDS READY BARRY...............IT'S FIXIN TO HIT THE FAN.........

Anonymous said...

I think that most of the conservative Wise Countians--myself included--would be better served by the so-called Libertarian party. Maybe they need to change the name of their party, it's to close to the "liberal" word!

Anonymous said...

Your huddled masses wanting everything to be free.

Remote Controller said...

I think there will be a turn and maybe a turn for the worst. Being a conservative, I have noticed that even the most strict Republicans are allowing moderate ideas into the lurch. This could spell trouble for our government in the next decade. If you thought we had a big socialist government now then wait and see when moderate Republicans and Democrats get together and "Help" the people out by spending even more than they are now. I can see it now, 60% of my paycheck will be given to the rest of the country and 12% sales tax is on it's way.......wooppee.

Anonymous said...

Barry, those were thoughtful comments. Thank you.

Years ago, Bill Moyers said that the Republican party was being run by a whole new brand of folks.

I think he's right, but the Democrats haven't done much better.

John McCain will probably be good for the Republican party base if he wins, but I don't think the guy would live long enough to see the party united and solid again.

Don't think Obama can do it for the Democrats either.

Not much choice for us, regrettably - at the polls.

Anonymous said...

Redistribution of wealth assumes there will be wealth. Over time, those with the capacity to generate wealth will be less and less motivated to do so as a result of it being whisked away. And when those people shut it down, we'll be surprised just how many jobs go away, increasing the burden on fewer and fewer dollars...and the cycle goes downward.

Anonymous said...

After Obama sends this recession into a depression, there will be a race war.

Anonymous said...

Barry is right...for a host of reasons. The Republicans screwed up their chances by become big spenders. Remember 1994? Republicans ran on term limits, a balanced budget, states' rights, etc. From 2000-2006, the Republicans were in total control, and spent our tax dollars at a rate never seen before. They were opposed to Big Government, unless they controlled it, then it was Katy bar the door.

So, the Republicans abandoned their principals of controlled spending, small government and states' rights...and where did it get them? Right where they are now.

So, now we have an ever-increasing hispanic population that votes for Democrats, and a Republican party that had a chance to be "conservative" but decided not to be. The Texas Republicans were successful in making sure that citizens couldn't seek compensation as a result of shoddy home construction, negligent doctors, and bad insurance companies. They also put an income tax on businesses (franchise tax).

So, in the end, the Republicans in Texas and nationally have created a bigger government, increased spending, taxed businesses, stolen individual rights, given rights to government, and taken away access to courts...and, now, the base of white voters to draw from is becoming smaller and smaller.

Anonymous said...

Breaking news: Blogger speaks in hyperbole to attract comments, while sprinkling in references to old/obscure things to try and sound smart.

What a waste of time.

Anonymous said...

If you don't have the courage to evolve your thinking, then you will die. The Republican party needs to take back it's conservative economic values: small government, cut taxes AND spending. We've lost our way with President Bush because he's been free spending.

Plus, I think the "culture war" that the right, right wing of the Republican party is fighting is distracting and not helpful for our future. Let's be honest: if gay people really want to be together, then we cannot stop them. And if a woman really wants to have an abortion, then we cannot stop her. Why must we spend so much time and energy worrying about these issues.

Plus, it's never set right with me that we really value small government, yet at the same time we want government to rule personal lives e.g. gay rights, abortion, etc.?!

Does anyone else feel this way?

Anonymous said...

Very well said 12:22.

Care to argue with this one Wordkyle?

Anonymous said...

Maybe Texas should consider seceding from the good 'ol leftist USA after Obammy gets elected?

Just sayin?

Anonymous said...

11:45

The war on drugs was all started by Nancy and Ronald.

Anonymous said...

I agree with you, 12:36. Small government should apply to all areas, not just taxes.

Anonymous said...

The Statue of Liberty needs some adjustment. We need to remove "Your Poor" and "Huddled Masses", we can't afford it now and we sure as heck won't be able to if Obama wins, oh wait, I'm sorry, that's wrong. He'll have plenty of money once he does that redistribution - thingamajigie. Not to mention the fact Pelosi and the others are already planning to do away with 401k's and direct it to Social Security.

Jarhead said...

Neoconservatism killed the Republican party.

Anonymous said...

Oh the race war will start way before the depression ever starts! Get your guns now before he takes away our 2nd amendment!! Its the end of the world as we know it!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I agree for the most part.... but I also believed after last year that Bridgeport would never have anything but a hispanic homecoming queen. The issue is diffrent but the dynamics are the same, and Bridgeport ended up with non-hispanic HQ. Its a matter of organizing the masses and getting them to vote (this goes both ways)

Anonymous said...

How about we just let each side take a crack at running (ruining) the country for eight years at a time? That way the only question will be which candidate from the party that's up gets the nod. Makes as much sense as the current method. We never seem to swing too far either direction, anyway, except for that whole "FDR is a god" experiment. (I think all four of my grandparents just simultaneously rolled over in their graves!)

Anonymous said...

No person named Barack Hussein Obama will ever be elected now or ever as our President.

I said it from day one and I say it now.

Anonymous said...

It is going to be a scary day for us all if Hussein Obama gets elected and Dems take over Congress.

wordkyle said...

Since you guys invoked my name....

I've mentioned before that I support Conservatism, which until recent years was best represented by the Republican party. This does not mean that Republicans always make the Conservative choice -- they are politicians, after all, not political philosophers. And I oppose Republicans when they try to be more like Democrats.

At this point in American politics, I am more of an anti-Democrat activist, because the Democrat party has been taken over by far left ideologues, promoting a philosophy that I believe will destroy America. Obama is the poster child for the far left ideology.

The far left ideology takes away individual worth and potential, and replaces it with the idea that government can supply all needs. The far left ideology also removes the concept of consequences for one's actions.

At the national level, the Republican party is still the best chance to defeat Democrats. So I support Republicans.

Anonymous said...

Secession, anyone??

I'm in favor of at least considering it!

Anonymous said...

Wordkyle, would you trust a Democrat that switched to the Republican party just to get elected?

Anonymous said...

Barry, you said what Republicans need to hear.

The Republican party is narrow minded, racist, divisive, hateful, selfish, snobbish, prejudice, inflexible, intolerant and, well..... how do I nicely say........attracts people with low IQs.

80% are fundamentalist and extremist.

Anonymous said...

12:36-AMEN!! I second that brother!

wordkyle said...

200 - More information needed. History, position on issues, etc. A Liberal Democrat who joined the Republican part just to get elected (in an area like, say, Lubbock county?) No. A Conservative Democrat who grew disenchanted with his party's swerve to the Left and wanted to switch? You bet.

Anonymous said...

12:36 - such good points. The best post so far. I've never understood why some Republicans (of the religious fanatical sort) blah blah blah about gays/lesbians and abortion. They use Scripture references to prove their point. And it is mostly about them wanting to be "right" and in "control" of other people's lives.

Anonymous said...

I think too many people think that the Republican party has always been the ultraconservative party while the Democratic Party the very liberal. That isn't really true. The Republican's under Lincoln, had some pretty liberal notations when they first said the Federal Government was supreme over the States. After the Civil War and leading up to JFK and then Johnson, the Southern Democrats were very conservative. Both parties had their liberal factions and conservative ones. Thomas Dewey who ran against Harry Truman was a "Liberal Republican". The liberal democrats were in power during WW II and if you go back before that, the Republicans by and large were against big standing armies, and navies and getting involved in the problems of Europe and other foreign countries. The knock against the Democrats were that they kept getting the USA into wars. Look how that has reversed in the last 40 years. Dick Cheney was the chief of staff for Gerald Ford. Ford was an avowed moderate and said the Republican Party needed to stay a moderate course or it would be destroyed. The Tax and Spend Democrats like Roosevelt, Kennedy and Johnson have been far eclipsed in spending by the "ultra conservative" Reagan and GW Bush. The Republicans evolved to where they are now because the Southern Democrats bolted the party after Lyndon Johnson brought in the Civil Rights legislation that white southerners found offensive and that Barry Goldwater helped to solidify into the Republican party. I think it is pretty safe to say that the Republican party is not any where near dead, but it is hard to say where it will go from here.

Anonymous said...

He is a terrorist in disguise! Can't tell me he is not a Muslim. Name USED to be Barry Sotoro. When and WHY did he take on a Muslim name. This Country will be run by them before long!

Anonymous said...

You'd be disenchanted in Wise County Wordkyle. Several Democrats switched to the Republican party just to get elected. And if we get a Democratic President, Republicans will do the same thing.

Loyalty means nothing much to anybody anymore - political or personal.

wordkyle said...

234 - I'm sure you are comforted by the caricature of Republicans you've created for yourself. Your belief system couldn't stand the shock if you faced up to the fact that clear thinking, well-intentioned, reasonably intelligent people disagree with you. "Narrow-minded"....hmmmm.

Anonymous said...

2:34; you just described the liberal democrats to a "T". Problem is, you folks are too ignorant to realize it.

wordkyle said...

255 - Disappointed by a politician??? Say it ain't so!

Anonymous said...

2:34, Which party had the first and second black Secretary of State? Which President nominated a black to the Supreme Court only to have him Bjorked by the liberal weenies? Which party passed the Civil Rights Act?

Anonymous said...

2:53: Yes, in fact I can tell you Obama isn't a Muslim: He's not.

And those of us in the reality-based community would LOVE IT if you seceded. Please do -- take your third-world, fundamentalist ball and go home.

Anonymous said...

Politicians are just mostly egomaniacs who lust after power and money.

There are few who can be called true "public servants".

Few.

Anonymous said...

The repulicans need to light a fire under their voter base in the same way the democrats have. Obama will win this election because, right or wrong, more minorities are voting because of the color of Obama's skin...it's the first time a lot of them feel they have a stake in the decision. I honestly can't say as I blame them. What I find ironic about it all is that many minorities, especially Hispanics, have values more in common with a conservative platform, ie, family values.

I was thinking along the lines of an earlier poster regarding the evolution of the Republican party's politics. The days of fat cat party line politics are over.

That said, it must be my age but long for the days of Andy Griffith and Dick Van Dyke. Things seemed to much simpler then. Of course, everything is simpler when you're a child. I'll be glad when this election is over.

Anonymous said...

how about trusting a Dem who crossed over to get elected.......
County Clerk ring a bell?????
wonder if she'll cross back over to the Dems now that the Dem ticket seems to be more popular?


HHHmmmnnnnnnn

Anonymous said...

12:22 Last two paragraphs. Well said!

Anonymous said...

Rise up zombie Reagan!

USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

Anonymous said...

Some of you guys need to take a breath.

On Nov 5, we will all get up and go to work.

Laws will be passed, modified, done away with, created, ignored as they have been for 200 plus years.

Pendulums swing........never stuck at either extreem or in the middle for that fact.

Regardless, it is a wonderful place to live and will continue to be.

LandShark 5150 said...

And to think the longest job Chairman Maobamma may hold is the U.S Presidency . We go half way around the world hunt down and aide in the hanging of a Hussein then elect one into office . What a great country we live in.

Anonymous said...

5:13, Rings a bell in the District Attorney's run for office!! Jones switched from Dem to Repub. Funny thing is...Jack county, almost all yellow dog dem's were the ones who elected her back into office! Who can tell about politics!??? It's not what ya say, it's who ya pay! Politicians BUY their way into office and our votes don't really count at all. Wake up people~!

Anonymous said...

Do Some Research. Use your head. Vote.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfIV1ntYggc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUdjhKbImwE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNMIwx6bGvs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo

Anonymous said...

What about a president that was a former liberal democrat, and president of the actor's guild, that was pressured by his second set of inlaws, that were very wealthy, he got from his cheating ass and marrying his second wife to switch to the Republican Party? And then ran the country from the first pretty much while losing his memory to the horrible Alzheimer’s disease. Well Nancy, Cheat, can't remember, swayed by the unscrupulous, lying ("don't deal with terrorist") big spending but bullshitted up by talk radio and righties as a great President, that must be the best qualifications of a Great Republican. Oh, it helps if the sheep dittohead Republicans are delusional as most are. A dead parrot could become a great Republican President under these circumstances.

Anonymous said...

How many of you retards think a Monkey eared guy with a Muslim name will be elected President in the United States of America? NOT ME.

We hung a Koran chanting Muslim goat teat suckin black bread eatin bastard by the same name not too long ago or have you retards forgot already.

Anonymous said...

Shark, that thinking is from smoking from 2 years. You must have also hardcore sniffed from the lawn mower gasoline can. Hey, but ever vapor you snorted down, an oil Exec got a little more.

Anonymous said...

If, and this leaves a lot of room whether diebold/Right-Wing riggers/Repuglican/Infiltrators of the down with Freedom bunch/if you are not cheating you are not trying party, prevail, you Obammy haters just might as well, you know, uh, you know, just go meet Jesus and tell him how dissatisfied you are that He would allow a person of questionable color and heritage, in addition to being a Muslim, to be elected President, as Jesus, the Son of God is in total control.
Maybe if enough of you Patriots go there and complain, you can get it reversed. Worked in 2000 and 2004, but without the extreme sacrifice that is necessary in todays voting population. Just give it a try. What do you have to Loose? You righties don't want ot live in a Black man Presidency, for sure. Man, desperation times!!!!!
Only a liver-lily-liver Liberal would want to be here under such circumstances, to you Conservative Republicans have to do whatever is necessary.....

Anonymous said...

What totally galls me about party switchers is those who publically say, "well now, I switched because this party is closest to what I actually believe".

What a bunch of BS.

Does anybody REALLY believe that?

Anonymous said...

The DNC has been moving far to the left since 2004 under Howard Dean who was in the tank for electing Obama. Massive voter fraud occurred during the Primary to keep Hillary Clinton from being the nominee. This will come out in a film to be released next year.

Conservatives and moderate Democrats are in the majority. If Obama is elected, he cannot fulfill his promises to for a tax cut to 95% because he can't tax those making over $150,000 enough to make good on health care, education and a check to 40% who pay no taxes. The tax increase on small business will cut jobs. Labor unions will find out that a seat at the table for contracts will not work because in a global economy, labor can not be productive and expect high wages.

When minorities can't find a job, a check from Obama will not buy many groceries. They will figure it out that after it is too late.

Obama is buying votes and playing the race card. He is not in the mainstream and is far to the left. The Democratic Party cannot maintain control ruling from the left any more than the Republican Party can from ruling from the far right!

A swing from the far right to the far left is not going in the right direction.

The first thing the far left will do is to introduce legislation against owing guns! Remember Obama saying people in PA cling to God and guns.

Anonymous said...

I am very sad that Mr. Green believes that the republican party will no longer exist if Obama wins. I hope Obama takes most of YOUR hard earned money and gives it to those who WILL NOT work for it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

The Republicans would get somewhere if we would stop bashing gays and Mexico.

If we are ever going to win elections again, we will need both gays and Hispanics.

Anonymous said...

I have always been a fiscal conservative and a social liberal. The first is no longer a political option. Since both parties tax and spend or borrow and spend it matters not which is elected. Therefore, I have to go with the party that at least doesn't think they have a right to dictate who I can marry or if I must have carry a fetus. As far as the scary "socialism" threat--it is already here. The US government is now part owner in the insurance companys, banks and other financial institutions. Get over it -- Bush's bail out, and bank buy in, makes Obama's "redistribution of wealth tax plan" look like childs play. We just redistributed hundreds of billions of dollars from hard working, tax paying citizens to the worst ran businesses,and most corrupt,greediest people in the world. Just think where we would be if the idiots had been able to privatize social security like they wanted to a few years back. Yes, the credit for the growth of socialism in the US will not go to Obama regardless of his tax plan. The Republican, President Bush has won that honor.

Anonymous said...

Homos are at MOST 5% of the population- I don't see how those kind of numbers could ever matter that much especially as impossible as it would ever be to win them over to a conservative view.

Anonymous said...

Well, Homos are at most 5% in the Log Cabin Republican group, whether REPUGS want them or not. Well off Homos know where their best interest lies..........And they really love those MasterdeBate practices that are done in a circle so everyone of the HOMO Republicans gets a chance to have hands on experience. These Republican Homos are not afraid of being attacked from behind, they know Republicans like to do attacks from behind.