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President Bush, who is against activist judges, gets active in the criminal justice system by "commuting" the prison term of Scooter Libby. Wow.
Developing. . .
Edit: And anyone remember then Gov. Bush's statement when he declined to even give the now dead Karla Faye Tucker a 30 day stay of her execution?: " "When I was sworn in as the governor of Texas I took an oath of office to uphold the laws of our state, including the death penalty. My responsibility is to ensure our laws are enforced fairly and evenly without preference or special treatment . . . . She was convicted and sentenced by a jury of her peers. The role of the state is to enforce our laws and to make sure all individuals are treated fairly under those laws." (Thanks to a local lawyer for reminding me of that.)
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Oh my! Who would have ever believed it? I'm shocked. Or maybe not.
Obviously he knew that it was not Scooter who should have to do the time. The real offender, Tricky Dicky Cheney is above the law and does not have to answer to anyone.
If you liberal weenies would pull your head out of your ass and realize it was Armitage that should be in jail, then maybe your blood pressure would be back to normal levels.
5:12: It isn't Armitage either. If you read the trial transcripts (plus Fitzgerald's subsequent filings), it is painfully obvious that the whole thing was done at Cheney's direction.
No one actually thought Libby would spend time in prison, did they? This administration sees Law as a tool to be used to further their own ends rather than a set of rules that should govern (and punish them for) their conduct.
I'm shocked that Clinton would pardon someone that owes the IRS 43 million dollars. Or maybe not. It was his wife that gave a million dollars for his adult book store and presidential library.
hhl, Armitage has said that he was the one that leaked(even though she had not been covert for over 5 years) Plame's name to the press. Sorry to mess up your day.
hhl, you might want to check Newsweek, Sep. 4, 2006. Michael Isikoff, who wrote the book, "Hurbris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War," will correct your left wing moonbat thinking on who should be in jail.
I don't think Libby left a hatchet in the chest of Plame and then laughed about it and confessed.
ok, ok. I'm not going through all of this again. I already debunked all the many red-herrings in this case on an earlier thread (e.g., Libby did nothing wrong, other people leaked the same information, Plame wasn't covert, Fitzgerald was a liberal on a witchhunt, etc).
You people go ahead and believe what you want.
You wing nutz who still claim Plame was not undercover (covert) please read the deposition from the CIA (who should know) that she was, indeed undercover. Revealing her role with the CIA did do harm to the CIA and to her various contacts throughout the world.
But all of that doesn't matter in this case. Libby was convicted of lying and obstruction. A jury was convinced. A judge sentenced him. An appeals court unanimously denied Libby bail while he further appealed and ordered him to prison. So this law and order administration is quite selective on how the law is applied. Oh yes, could this be a form of presidential interference in judges’ decisions?
Bush "commuted" (is that legal?) the sentence just to keep Libby from talking and nailing the real criminals in so many activities.
The jail sentance didn't have anything to do with who leaked, he was obstructing justice and lying. But that's par for the course for right wingers.
free paris!
Nice edit, Barry.
Why should any of us be surprised? When has Bu$h et al ever displayed any ethics?
Thoroughly DISGUSTED!
Bring it, WordPyle!
if i were a right wingnut, i would prolly use the moniker "anonymous", too...
carla faye tucker = death penalty
scooter = get out of jail *almost* free
harumph
Just like everything else in this administration, the rules apply to everyone else...but not to them. This action is just more standard Bush and his "Good Ole Boy" cronyism. (Horses & disasters...they're all the same aren't they?)
No matter how incredibly offensive it is, we shouldn't be surprised. When the Libby sentence came down I set the odds of our sitting President pardoning Libby (convicted in a court of law...with the best defense money could buy...by a jury of his (not so wealthy) peers) or commuting the sentence at 3:2.
At least most of the "upstanding citizens" that hold that office wait until they're almost out the door before performing that sort of garbage.
Libby lied, leaving Bush to decide that Justice for all has died.
Libby was NOT convicted of leaking Plame's identity. He was convicted by jury for lying to the Grand Jury. Who was the leaker has NOTHING to do with this issue.
I am actually giddy with joy about this because it just goes further to show how thoroughly CORRUPT this administration is. They have NO regard for the law.
Come on you liberal weenies, lying to a Grand Jury is barely a crime. It took a liberal judge and liberal jury to convict him on what is purely more like a slip up or mistake than a crime. No rational group of people would use "lying under oath" as a basis for anything substantial. Come on wordkyle, help me out here.
hhl,glad I could shut you up with facts
Bush, when releasing his comments, (on paper as he was unwilling to do it in person) said that he was using his constitutional authority to commute Libby's prison sentence. He acknowledged the crime by letting stand the probation and $250,000 fine. But then Bush probably ad-libbed that he did this because the prison sentence was too harsh. Unfortunately, the sentence is in fact quite in line with guidelines for this offense. By his adding his opinion on the length of prison time he might have overstepped his commutation authority and claimed he is the ultimate "decider" of what any and all sentences should be. He continually amazes even me with his stupidity.
We haven't heard from wordkyle and the wing nutz yet. So let me help with the subject of commutation of sentences from the DOJ manual on Commutations...
Section 1-2.113 Standards for Considering Commutation Petitions
" A commutation of sentence reduces the period of incarceration; it does not imply forgiveness of the underlying offense, but simply remits a portion of the punishment. It has no effect upon the underlying conviction and does not necessarily reflect upon the fairness of the sentence originally imposed. Requests for commutation generally are not accepted unless and until a person has begun serving that sentence. Nor are commutation requests generally accepted from persons who are presently challenging their convictions or sentences through appeal or other court proceeding."
So Bush can't even get the commutation procedure right.
All you liberal weenies go to Drudgereport and check out Clinton's list of pardons. Then when your blood quits boiling, come on back and eat crow.
8:44 Why should we eat crow? I have never been a Clinton apologist nor an apologist for any political figure who's salary is paid with my tax dollars.
How stupid to continually call the name of Clinton in the effort to hide the sins of Bu$h. Can't you come up with anything better than that?
If I'm a liberal weenie you are a Conservative Neanderthal.
Neither the republicans nor the democrats have a monopoly on lying. If they're a politician they lie and none of them are as loyal to their respective parties as some you are unless there's something in it for them.
And so the feeding frenzy continues.
A couple of notes:
Some of the posters here ridicule Bush's procedural handling of the commutation, but I'll bet the sentence stays commuted.
Fitzgerald's sentencing recommendations go on and on about the "serious criminal investigation" -- which turned up no convictions other than Libby's. Not only was no one else convicted, no one else was even charged.
Libby's paying the price for the rabid anti-Bush atmosphere generated by the Democrats and the media. But the most cherished dream of Liberals ("Wouldn't it be fun to see Karl Rove frog-marched out of the White House in handcuffs?") remains unfulfilled.
Between this and the absolute collapse (lower approval ratings than Bush!) of the Democrat-controlled do-nothing Congress, you guys must be about ready to slit a vein.
8:44---------- thanks, that's quite a list. He seems to have had a soft spot for drug dealers(surprise, surprise), and money crooks (anybody smell Hlllary on those?) The real question then becomes: With all that work reviewing the validity of those sundry apps for pardon, when did he ever find time to get his sick ducked?
TxSheehan, Quit trying to pass yourself off as a libertarian. We all know you are a kool aid sipping liberal weenie. If this were the Clinton administration, the silence would be deafening.
tx she-male has a new look. DAMN, she's not a milf
Where's mschef in this brouhaha? You don't suppose she has a JOB or something like that keeping her out of the fray? Boy/girlfriend? Pleeeze come solve this for us oh omniscient LAST WOrd person.
What, no comments on Barry's edit? No one wants to comment on Bush's total hypocrisy on commuting Libby's sentence after his pontification on how it was his job as governor to uphold the court's decision on a death penalty case? How many other cases has he chosen not to intervene but he jumps right in for Libby (only to keep him quiet).
Mr Bush is an A H. Enough said.
10:46, I did comment on it. Liberal weenies only see and hear what they want to. All the pictures I see of Libby, I don't see him with his mouth duct tapped. Until you weenies trash the constitution's first ammendment with the fairness doctrine, everyone has the right to say what ever they want, even Libby.
I love the smell of liberal weenies stewing early in the morning. Now if we could just get him to pardon the two border patrol agents. hhl, why didn't Fitzmas indict Cheney if it was done at his direction?
From George Washington to George W. Bush presidents have exercised their Constitutional Authority of pardoning whomever THEY bloody well please. As indicated in the link listing only the "notable pardons" there have been a trainload of presidential clemency actions.
Since George H. W. Bush, it has become COMMON practice for a president to grant clemency to members of their administration/friends who were attacked for political purposes.
Libby is an ABSOLUTE FOOL for having not JUSTIFIABLY used the life/career saving line "I do not remember." rather than GUESS at what he "remembered." I would like to BELIEVE that had Libby INTENTIONALLY made false statements he would have done a BETTER job. People BASHED Alberto Gonzales for having a faulty memory but they did NOT attempt to send his booty to the big house for "inaccurately remembering."
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To Barry...
Karla Faye Tucker participated in an action that resulted in the DEATH of an INNOCENT person. Libby participated in an activity that MAY have resulted in the death of an innocent person. I find it disingenuous for you to on the one hand rail against the DUI laws that send people to prison for what MIGHT have happened while operating a vehicle with a BA of .08 and on the other to expect someone to spend years in prison for having a "faulty memory."
Partisanism in ANY situation eliminates MOST people's ability to remain OBJECTIVE.
Incidentally, I still think POLITICIANS SUCK.
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To 10:45...
Happy NOW?
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good grief.
Go to the airport and watch for the pigs taking off and landing.
I agree with a mzchief post.
I'm going to go lie down in a dark, quiet room for a while. My system can't take it.
For all who have a problem with the commutation of Libby's sentence: either bitch about all commutations and pardons by all presidents or admit you are applying a double standard. Why should anyone single out one commutation among the thousands that have been granted over the years? Your posturing and indignation is wearing very thin.
Clinton Pardons!
Name Home Town Offenses
ALLEN, Verla Jean Everton, Arkansas False statements to agency of United States
ALTIERE, Nicholas M. Las Vegas, Nevada Importation of cocaine
ALTSCHUL, Bernice Ruth Sherman Village, California Conspiracy to commit money laundering
ANDERSON, Joe, Jr. Grove Hill, Alabama Income tax evasion
ANDERSON, William Sterling Spartanburg, South Carolina Conspiracy to defraud a federally insured financial institution, false statements to a federally insured financial institution, wire fraud
AZIZKHANI, Mansour T. Huntsville, Alabama Conspiracy and making false statements in bank loan applications
BABIN, Cleveland Victor, Jr. Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Conspiracy to commit offense against the United States by utilizing the U.S. mail in furtherance of a scheme to defraud
BAGLEY, Chris Harmon Harrah, Oklahoma Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine
BANE, Scott Lynn Mahomet, Illinois Unlawful distribution of marijuana
BARBER, Thomas Cleveland Hampton, Florida Issuing worthless checks
BARGON, Peggy Ann Monticello, Illinois Violation of the Lacey Act, violation of the Bald Eagle Protection Act
BHATKA, Tansukhlal Income tax evasion
BLAMPIED, David Roscoe Ketchum, Idaho Conspiracy to distribute cocaine
BORDERS, William Arthur, Jr. Washington, D.C. Conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions; corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein; traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery
BOREL, Arthur David Little Rock, Arkansas Odometer rollback
BOREL, Douglas Charles Conway, Arkansas Odometer rollback
BRABHAM, George Thomas Austin, Texas Making a false statement or report to a federally insured bank
BRASWELL, Almon Glenn Doravilla, Georgia Conspiracy to defraud government with respect to claims; perjury
BROWDER, Leonard Aiken, South Carolina Illegal dispensing of controlled substance and Medicaid fraud
BROWN, David Steven New York, New York Securities fraud and mail fraud
BURLESON, Delores Caroylene, aka Delores Cox Burleson Hanna, Oklahoma Possession of marijuana
BUSTAMANTE, John H. Cleveland, Ohio Wire fraud
CAMPBELL, Mary Louise Ruleville, Mississippi Aiding and abetting the unauthorized use and transfer of food stamps
CANDELARIA, Eloida False information in registering to vote
CAPILI, Dennis Sobrevinas Glendale, California Filing false statements in alien registration
CHAMBERS, Donna Denise Memphis, Tennessee Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute and to distribute cocaine, possession with intent to distribute cocaine, use of a telephone to facilitate cocaine conspiracy
CHAPMAN, Douglas Eugene Scott, Arkansas Bank fraud
CHAPMAN, Ronald Keith Scott, Arkansas Bank fraud
CHAVEZ, Francisco Larios Santa Ana, California Aiding and abetting illegal entry of aliens
CISNEROS, Henry G.
CLINTON, Roger
COHN, Stuart Harris New Haven, Connecticut 1. Illegal sale of gold options
2. Illegal sale of silver options
COOPER, David Marc Wapakoneta, Ohio Conspiracy to defraud the government
COX, Ernest Harley, Jr. Pine Bluff, Arkansas Conspiracy to defraud a federally insured savings and loan, misapplication of bank funds, false statements
CROSS, John F., Jr. Little Rock, Arkansas Embezzlement by a bank employee
CUNNINGHAM, Rickey Lee Amarillo, Texas Possession with intent to distribute marijuana
DE LABIO, Richard Anthony Baltimore, Maryland Mail fraud, aiding and abetting
DEUTCH, John Described in January 19, 2001 information
DOUGLAS, Richard False statements
DOWNE, Edward Reynolds Conspiracy to commit wire fraud and tax evasion; securities fraud
DUDLEY, Marvin Dean Omaha, Nebraska False statements
DUNCAN, Larry Lee Branson, Missouri Altering an automobile odometer
FAIN, Robert Clinton Aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate tax return
FERNANDEZ, Marcos Arcenio Miami, Florida Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute marijuana
FERROUILLET, Alvarez Interstate transport of stolen property, money laundering, false statements
FUGAZY, William Denis Harrison, New York Perjury in a bankruptcy proceeding
GEORGE, Lloyd Reid Mail fraud
GOLDSTEIN, Louis Las Vegas, Nevada Possession of goods stolen from interstate shipment
GORDON, Rubye Lee Tampa, Florida Forgery of U.S. Treasury checks
GREEN, Pincus Switzerland
HAMNER, Robert Ivey Searcy, Arkansas Conspiracy to distribute marijuana, possession of marijuana with intent to distribute
HANDLEY, Samuel Price Hodgenville, Kentucky Conspiracy to steal government property
HANDLEY, Woodie Randolph Hodgenville, Kentucky Conspiracy to steal government property
HARMON, Jay Houston Jonesboro, Arkansas 1. Conspiracy to import marijuana, conspiracy to possess marijuana with intent to distribute, importation of marijuana, possession of marijuana with intent to distribute
2. Conspiracy to import cocaine
HEMMINGSON, John Interstate transport of stolen property, money laundering
HERDLINGER, David S. St. Simons Island, Georgia Mail fraud
HUCKLEBERRY, Debi Rae Ogden, Utah Distribution of methamphetamine
JAMES, Donald Ray Fairfield Bay, Arkansas Mail fraud, wire fraud, and false statement to a bank to influence credit approval
JOBE, Stanley Pruet El Paso, Texas Conspiracy to commit bank fraud, and bank fraud
JOHNSON, Ruben H. Austin, Texas Theft and misapplication of bank funds by a bank officer or director
JONES, Linda Conspiracy to commit bank fraud and other offenses against the United States
LAKE, James Howard Illegal corporate campaign contributions, wire fraud
LEWIS, June Louise Lowellville, Ohio Embezzlement by a bank employee
LEWIS, Salim Bonnor Short Hills, New Jersey Securities fraud, record keeping violations, margin violations
LODWICK, John Leighton Excelsior Springs, Missouri Income tax evasion
LOPEZ, Hildebrando San Isidro, Texas Distribution of cocaine
LUACES, Jose Julio Ft. Lauderdale, Florida Possession of an unregistered firearm
MANESS, James Timothy Conspiracy to distribute a controlled substance
MANNING, James Lowell Little Rock, Arkansas Aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate tax return
MARTIN, John Robert Gulf Breeze, Florida Income tax evasion
MARTINEZ, Frank Ayala Elgin, Texas Conspiracy to supply false documents to the Immigration and Naturalization Service
MARTINEZ, Silvia Leticia Beltran Elgin, Texas Conspiracy to supply false documents to the Immigration and Naturalization Service
McCORMICK, John Francis Dedham, Massachusetts Racketeering conspiracy, racketeering, and violation of the Hobbs act
McDOUGAL, Susan H.
MECHANIC, Howard Lawrence 1. Violating the Civil Disobedience Act of 1968
2. Failure to appear
3. Making false statement in acquiring a passport
MITCHELL, Brook K., Sr. Conspiracy to illegally obtain USDA subsidy payments, false statements to USDA, and false entries on USDA forms
MORGAN, Charles Wilfred, III Little Rock, Arkansas Conspiracy to distribute cocaine
MORISON, Samuel Loring Crofton, Maryland Willful transmission of defense information, unauthorized possession and retention of defense information, theft of government property
NAZZARO, Richard Anthony Winchester, Massachusetts Perjury and conspiracy to commit mail fraud
NOSENKO, Charlene Ann Phoenix, Arizona Conspiracy to defraud the United States, and influencing or injuring an officer or juror generally
OBERMEIER, Vernon Raymond Belleville, Illinois Conspiracy to distribute cocaine, distribution of cocaine, and using a communications facility to facilitate distribution of cocaine
OGALDE, Miguelina Glendale, California Conspiracy to import cocaine
OWEN, David C. Olathe, Kansas Filing a false tax return
PALMER, Robert W. Little Rock, Arkansas Conspiracy to make false statements
PERHOSKY, Kelli Anne Bridgeville, Pennsylvania Conspiracy to commit mail fraud
PEZZOPANE, Richard H. Palo Heights, Illinois Conspiracy to commit racketeering, and mail fraud
PHILLIPS, Orville Rex Waco, Texas Unlawful structure of a financial transaction
POLING, Vinson Stewart, Jr. Baldwin, Maryland Making a false bank entry, and aiding and abetting
PROUSE, Norman Lyle Conyers, Georgia Operating or directing the operation of a common carrier while under the influence of alcohol
PRUITT, Willie H. H., Jr. Port Richey, Florida Absent without official leave
PURSLEY, Danny Martin, Sr. Goodlettsville, Tennessee Aiding and abetting the conduct of an illegal gambling business, and obstruction of state laws to facilitate illegal gambling
RAVENEL, Charles D. Charleston, South Carolina Conspiracy to defraud the United States
RAY, William Clyde Altus, Oklahoma Fraud using a telephone
REGALADO, Alfredo Luna Pharr, Texas Failure to report the transportation of currency in excess of $10,000 into the United States
RICAFORT, Ildefonso Reynes Houston, Texas Submission of false claims to Veterans Administration
RICH, Marc Switzerland
RIDDLE, Howard Winfield Mt. Crested Butte, Colorado Violation of the Lacey Act (receipt of illegally imported animal skins)
RILEY, Richard Wilson, Jr. Possession of cocaine with intent to distribute
ROBBINS, Samuel Lee Cedar Park, Texas Misprision of a felony
RODRIGUEZ, Joel Gonzales Houston, Texas Theft of mail by a postal employee
ROGERS, Michael James McAllen, Texas Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute marijuana
ROSS, Anna Louise Lubbock, Texas Distribution of cocaine
RUST, Gerald Glen Avery, Texas False declarations before grand jury
RUST, Jerri Ann Avery, Texas False declarations before grand jury
RUTHERFORD, Bettye June Albuquerque, New Mexico Possession of marijuana with intent to distribute
SANDS, Gregory Lee Sioux Falls, South Dakota Conspiracy to distribute cocaine
SCHWIMMER, Adolph Conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, conspiracy to export arms and ammunition to a foreign country and related charges
SERETTI, Albert A., Jr. McKees Rocks, Pennyslvania Conspiracy and wire fraud
SHAW, Patricia Campbell Hearst Wilton, Connecticut Armed bank robbery and using a firearm during a felony
SMITH, Dennis Joseph Redby, Minnesota 1. Unauthorized absence
2. Failure to obey off-limits instructions
3. Unauthorized absence
SMITH, Gerald Owen Florence, Mississippi Armed bank robbery
SMITH, Stephen A.
SPEAKE, Jimmie Lee Breckenridge, Texas Conspiracy to possess and utter counterfeit $20 Federal Reserve notes
STEWART, Charles Bernard Sparta, Georgia Illegally destroying U.S. Mail
STEWART-ROLLINS, Marlena Francisca Euclid, Ohio Conspiracy to distribute cocaine
SYMINGTON, John Fife, III
TANNEHILL, Richard Lee Reno, Nevada Conspiracy and restraint of trade
TENAGLIA, Nicholas C. Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania Receipt of illegal payments under the Medicare program
THOMAS, Gary Allen Lancaster, Texas Theft of mail by postal employee
TODD, Larry Weldon Gardendale, Texas Conspiracy to commit an offense against the U.S. in violation of the Lacey Act and the Airborne Hunting Act
TREVINO, Olga C. Converse, Texas Misapplication by a bank employee
VAMVOUKLIS, Ignatious Exeter, New Hampshire Possession of cocaine
VAN DE WEERD, Patricia A. Tomahawk, Wisconsin Theft by a U.S. Postal employee
WADE, Christopher V.
WARMATH, Bill Wayne Walls, Mississippi Obstruction of correspondence
WATSON, Jack Kenneth Oakridge, Oregon Making false statements of material facts to the U.S. Forest Service
WEBB, Donna Lynn Panama City, Florida False entry in savings and loan record by employee
WELLS, Donald William Phenix City, Alabama Possession of an unregistered firearm
WENDT, Robert H. Kirkwood, Missouri Conspiracy to effectuate the escape of a federal prisoner
WILLIAMS, Jack L. Making false statements to federal agents
WILLIAMS, Kevin Arthur Omaha, Nebraska Conspiracy to distribute and possess with intent to distribute crack cocaine
WILLIAMS, Robert Michael Davison, Michigan Conspiracy to transport in foreign commerce securities obtained by fraud
WILSON, Jimmie Lee Helena, Arkansas Converting property mortgaged or pledged to a farm credit agency, and converting public money to personal use
WINGATE, Thelma Louise Sale City, Georgia Mail fraud
WOOD, Mitchell Couey Sherwood, Arkansas Conspiracy to possess and to distribute cocaine
WOOD, Warren Stannard Las Vegas, Nevada Conspiracy to defraud the United States by filing a false document with the Securities and Exchange Commission
WORTHEY, Dewey Conway, Arkansas Medicaid fraud
YALE, Rick Allen Belleville, Illinois Bank fraud
YASAK, Joseph A. Chicago, Illinois Knowingly making under oath a false declaration regarding a material fact before a grand jury
YINGLING, William Stanley Interstate transportation of stolen vehicle
YOUNG, Phillip David Little Rock, Arkansas Interstate transportation and sale of fish and wildlife
More proof of the lack of common sense in America!
Was there ever any doubt in the mind of anyone out there that this was going to happen. I just wish that Bush would have came out and said what we all know; which is no matter what you convict him of he ain't going to jail. The fact that anyone could be shocked by this decision is quite shocking to me!
What is sad on top of all of this is how much money did this cost tax payers to to prosecute him. They should have just said "OK, we need a scapegoat to donate $250,000 and you will not go to jail and we will not prosecute because it will be a huge time and money waste!" The result would have been the same, except now Libby will write a book about his experience and make back his money 10 fold!
For those who do not understand politics it is simple....Both sides do crooked things to get and stay elected, when one side is in control they have more power so they protect their cronies! The other side has less power so they do whatever they can to attack, prosecute, vilify, demean, and disrupt the side with power. With all of this comes scandal and it irks me to think people forget the nature of politics!
Two points:
1)If I mislead the FBI and ie to a grand jury and get caught, my but is goingto jail. It don't matter what my intention were or if I did another wrong, I'm going to jail.
2) This is STILL ther most corrupt and contemptable adminstration since "Tricky Dick" Nixon, and that's saying alot when you look at the laws that Reagan deliberatly broke.
Goober:
your attitude is much like that of the vast majority of liberals on this blog. They all hate Bush and everything conservative (you make it a point to single out Nixon and Reagan, two conservative repubs); never anything bad about all of the bad things Clinton and Carter did (and, in cartr's case, is STILL DOING);
then you attack conservatives like wordkyle, who has said before he disagrees with a LOT of what Pres. Bush has done/is doing. He makes no bones about it. However, the vast majority of liberals refuse to think outside their own hate-bush-filled box and see that both sides of the aisle are corrupt, not just the republicans; that in itself makes all of your arguments disingenuous;
Are there things I don't like that Bush has done? Yes! Are there things he has done that I like? Yes! Do I think he's doing the best he can? Yes, or at least I hope so, because, just like the rest of all you bloggers, I don't have a clue. All of you pretend tobe smart and well-informed, but your own hatred of ANYTHING bush/republican blinds you to your own ignorance...
1:32, what are the things that Bush has done that you like? Really, I want to know. Explain to me what actions that Bush has taken that you and his other supporters approve. Maybe if I can make a pro/con list I can make a better evaluation.
I don't agree with everything Bush does, but I support him as our President. Personally, I think anyone lying under oath should go to jail...especially politicians and lawmakers! The punishment should be severe enough to deter dishonesty...even if they have to lock up everyone in Washington...
Actually, I think our school board could do a better job running this country than our congress...
It was ok for CLINTON, but not Bush.. GOOD GRIEF
Hey 1:32,
I must confess you have the Cheney/Bush party line down pat! "If you can't defend our actions, attack the person whose questioning!" That's all you airheaded Cheneyites know. And the sad part about it is, the people who vote in this country will probably elect ANOTHER actor in 2008. People never cease to amaze me. IMPEACH PRESIDENT CHENEY NOW!!!!
I hope at some point in time every liberal weenie is called to testify to a grand jury 4 different times about a conversation that you had 2 years previously. I'll bet that you give 4 different versions of the conversation. My biggest wish is that the sitting President is a conservative and lets you rot in prison.
3:44, I hope you get your wish about the 08 election. I'll bet you were onboard with the rest of the country about not allowing Dubai to manage some of our ports. But you will vote for Hillary even though Billy is in bed with Dubai and making millions of dollars by doing business with them. You weenies are such hypocrites. I love the liberal weenie mindset.
It is a comfort to see that the Bush haters FINALLY came to their senses and STOPPED demanding "W" be impeached AFTER they figured out that Dick Cheney would BECOME president.
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It has become clear that there is but one solution. We must gas the entire country, then bring the pope to breed with sister teresa and just start over. Funny thing is it will end up the same 200 tears from now. Evolution, you know, will not be denied.
Thanks, MZ. I was getting worried. You didn't answer the boy/girl friend mystery. Honestly, I don't have any curiosity about the JOB!!
Bush might be stupid but his lawyers are a little brighter. They give a commutation of Libby's prison time while leaving his conviction in tact. This keeps Libby quiet while still leaving a club over his head till Bush/Cheney can get out of town. Crooks covering for crooks.
Barry, As to your edit, do you remember when Slick Willy was running for president and flew back to Arkansas to oversee the execution of a retarded black man, Ricky Ray Rector? And the fine people of Arkansas inducted BJ into the Arkansas Black Hall of Fame. The only white person in that prestigious club. Others include Jocelyn Elders, who by the way Clinton fired for her idiotic ramblings about masturbation needed to be dicscussed in schools while being the Surgeon General, Maya Angelou and others. See if you can find any quotes from Hillbilly Willy about how it was his job to carry out the will of the people and the jury that convicted Rector to death.
IMPEACH Cheney first.
I hope Barry will do another post on this: Libby commutation in conflict with recent Supreme Court decision
TxSheehan, I hope Barry will post on that also. That is the only thing that will finally bring conservatives over to your side of kuckoo thinking. NOT.
WordKyle Help Me!!!! Help me! Help me! Wordkyle, Help Me!!!!!!
Help me lick all these "Liberal Weenies" that we conservatives like to lick. Help Me!!!!!!!!!!!!
Help Rush, Help Tom (Delay), Help Dick (Cheney), Help Larry (Fine)!
Help Wordkyle, Tom, Dick and Larry!!!!!!! So Many to Lick, not enough Time!!!!!! YOwwwwwweeeeAAAAAWWWWWWEEEEEEaaaa!!!!!!!
"Nonviolent offenders should not be serving hard time in our prisons. They need to be diverted from our prison system."--Sen. Hillary Clinton, Democratic debate, June 28, 07 "Today's decision is yet another example that this administration simply considers itself above the law...This commutation sends the clear signal that in this administration cronyism and ideology trump competence and justice."--Sen. Hillary Clinton, Press release, July 2, 07. What a difference a week makes.
I seriously doubt Ol' Scooter would actual do "Hard Time" in a rock busting scenerio anyway. Hell, Paris was punished more, Martha Stewart also. At least these Two Criminals, Paris and Martha, Know True, impartial, Conservatikunt Justice.
At least Liberals have Liberal Weenies. Almost Gay Tendency Maleless Conservatikunts have "little smokies" and really suffer from "small penis syndrome" and this makes Conservatikunts a very vicious group of "Hey Dude, Where's My Penis" type of citizens. But the "Little Smokie" penis brigade is part of Truth, Justice, and the American Way. Play the Lee Greenwood Song about now..... In a sick kind of Conservatikunt way. Now the femalenazicans suffer from "I want to be Condi's Girl" is another issue. These girls handle these penis related issues in a different manner. Somehow or other.
7:47 Likes his Weenies!!!! You want a hot apple pie with that?
To 10:07...
Hillary's position does not have as much to do with timing as it does with who is in the audience and who is headed to the slammer.
Hillary is cut from the same cloth as is Bill in that they say what NEEDS to be said to get what they want. Who TRULY knows what either of those two chameleons stand for and mean?
I think it is great YOU moved the discussion to the FUTURE rather than remain mired, like so many other people, in the Bush vs. Clinton is the biggest jerk debate. That debate is much like trying to figure out which turd smells worse. What people forget is that regardless of it being Bush or Clinton they BOTH are turds who smell like poop.
Bush is Bush and Clinton is Clinton, what we need to do is START finding out about the dirtbags (admittedly that MAY have been harsh.) running in 2008 so we are not stuck with a turd for another 4 years.
Amen mzchief!
Clinton = turd
Bu$h = turd
We need to find the least smelly turd for 08.
Duncan Hunter 08
If YOU had been governor and Carla Faye Tucker killed your "lawyer friend", would you have pardoned her?
If YOU had been President and your "lawyer friend" were in Scooter's place, would you have commuted his sentence?
10:07 your Hillary quotes are interesting, but don't really show us anything and don't assist your intended point of making her look hypocritical. It's perfectly reasonable for a person to believe that we should reduce prison penalties for ALL non-violent offenders and yet abhore the special treatment received by ONE very rich and politically connected offender.
I don't know about you, but I would like for us to strive for a judicial system that doesn't provide this sort of special treatment. There may be a lot to point out as being wrong with Hillary but this just isn't one of them. Better luck next time.
Clinton pardon 26 convicted drug dealers?
I suppose importing cocaine is not a violent crime and not commited by a "very rich and politically connected offender". Surely these guys deserve "special treatment" since they didn't lie to a grand jury.
Sorry, but there is no accountability in big government any more... not right or left... I'm just tired of being lied to... There is no justification, whatsoever! These guys are all dirty; and if they're not, it's seems to be a matter of time.
The cleanest politician out there seems to be Barak Hussein Obama...
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