2.22.2010

Montague County: Travel Destination Fail

Bud Kennedy had a column this weekend about some Greensheet type paper in Saint Jo having an "official notice" that a certain type of engineering would heretofore be called "Obama-rigging." I had a buddy tell me about that last week, and he's trying to get me the paper. In the meantime, enjoy the above gem from 1906 in the St. Louis paper called The Dispatch (middle of fourth page here.)

48 comments:

Anonymous said...

I've lived in wise co. all my life, and I always heard from my daddy that Montague co. wouldn't allow "coloreds" and that there was once a sign somewhere outside of Bowie city limits stating not to let the sun set on their black a** within the town.

Anonymous said...

http://www.topix.com/city/bowie-tx/2010/02/racist-ad-aimed-at-president

ED.

Anonymous said...

In America 104 years ago, there were many injustices which existed, and were considered commonplace. This is but one unfortunate example of some of those. However, just maybe they had a lot better handle on a lot of other things like religious conviction, family unity, and patriotism which might be equally shocking to a lot of folks in today's society.

Anonymous said...

1:39

Sadly, I heard the same thing from my Wise Co grandparents.

We have come along way towards tolerance, but of course we will never get there 100%, witness some comments on this blog.

Re comments on this blog. I don't know which is worse those who believe their comments or those who just think their comments are humorous or funny.

Anonymous said...

I think its bunch of crap. i personally lived there and had several friends that was african americans and they stayed there for months. yea they got looks and i remember my mother saying a comment of them staring. Like ppl need to give up this black and white crap.

Anonymous said...

Well, that is truly SAD about the county OF MONTAGUE, because in my eyes, NIGRO is not defined by color , but by the way people act and how they appear to others. AND that defination defines many FROM BOWIE and MONTAGUE COUNTY!!!!! Clean up your ACT PEOPLE~~ God made us all ~~ unite and LET JESUS be seen through how we treat each other!!!!!

Anonymous said...

So can someone enlighten me as to the problem associated with the term, "Obama-rigging?"

Anonymous said...

I believe the ad referred to it as a "presidential solution"

Anonymous said...

1906...well let's find the perpetrators, dig them up and give them some diversity training right away.

Anonymous said...

2:08...How can you even make such a statement! How is it possible to be blatently racist and have a "better handle on other things like religious conviction"? The fact that injustices existed and were commonplace suggest to me nothing other than society has came a long way since then.

I simply cannot fathom the good ol' days mentality that many from the family values, christian right side of the republican party yearn for. You are willing to simply look the other way at civil rights injustice and pass it off as a sign of the times. It is the folks like you that damage the republican party and conservatism in general.

Anonymous said...

wow way to show something 104 years old. i went to school in bowie and had an african american teacher and a couple of classmates that were black.

Anonymous said...

2:43, you're lost in the world of make-believe. Society and it's cultural norms changes over time. For you to sit here in 2010 and judge the ethics and morality of people a hundred years ago is as ridiculous as it will be when our current state of "enlightenment" is judged a hundred years from now.

Society changes, the past is past, learn from that past and move on...but stop whining.

Anonymous said...

I bet most people do not consider themselves racist and do nothing really to be considered a racist, but you sure don't see a bunch of white folks seeking out black neighborhoods to live and send their children to school. Just the reality of it.

Anonymous said...

From the grandfather that was born in 1902, he was a Wise County walking history book. In 1952 a town was renamed Sunset, though not incorporated as a city until 1995. The town posted a large sign on the Northbound lanes of U.S. 81 that read, "Welcome to Sunset, just don't let the sunset on your black as#." He could not imagine a place that was so racist, he worked beside alot blacks in the coal mines of Arkansas and Brideport, Texas.

Anonymous said...

"Well, I think it's probably inappropriate as far as putting it on the front of a newspaper," said St. Jo resident James Parmer. "I know we...a lot of us have private jokes that we make and talk. But, it's not something that really should be publicized."

In other words, "We like to be racist in private."

To those who say that Bowie (and Montague County) are different are outright lying. I work in Bowie, and blatant racism is alive and well. It is sickening, they don't make any effort to disguise it at all. But I'm white, so its obviously okay to speak freely as long as they're no browns around.

I hate humanity.

Anonymous said...

In complete darkness we are all the same.only our knowledge and wisdom seperates us.So don't let your eyes decieve you.

Anonymous said...

Wasn't it Bowie where the basketball fans shouted racial slurs at the Hirschi girls a few years ago?

Anonymous said...

Oh boy, there's a whole lot more things worse than being racists people! why can't you get fired up about drugs, child molesters, politicians, lawyers, blacks who hate whites but aren't considered racists because that only applies to whites, world hunger, global warming, bridgeport high school cheerleader injustices, etc, etc.

Anonymous said...

2:22, if your grandparents said that about Wise County, they knew not whereof they spoke. VERY unlike Montague County, much of Wise County (including Decatur) was settled by white southerners accompanied by a few slaves. After the Civil War, much of that black population remained. And much of western Wise County was settled by northerners migrating in during Reconstruction.

I'm not suggesting race relations in Wise County were all hearts and flowers ... only that Wise County always had a black population, and that the coexistence was generally peaceful. Hell, the "Eighter from Decatur" slogan was originated by a black travelling gambler whose girlfriend was a black cook named Ada who worked for the Waggoners in Decatur. (Hence, "Ada from Decatuh".)

I grew up among Wise County whites who had little or no use for the extremist attitudes "up north" in Montague County.

Anonymous said...

Hahahaha, the TV report states that a PASTOR says that the term is common in the community. When a pastor knows, you know its bad. Nuke Saint Jo.

Anonymous said...

montague co. is well known for it's high class people. from the sheriff on down.

Anonymous said...

I have gone to Saint Jo the last four years to watch fireworks for the 4th of July. I won't be going there this year. Or any year.

Anonymous said...

So, Kanye West and his ilk can use the term freely without controversy, but nobody else sure as hell better use it! Go figure?

Anonymous said...

If you think we're all the same, go try living in Detroit. Pretending something is a certain way does not make it so.

Anonymous said...

detroit my ass try living in ft worth..

RPM said...

I heard the same thing from my grandparents. They came to WC in the 1800's and quoted the sign exactly as 1:39 quoted. They also told me about a hanging tree out by the old lake.

Anonymous said...

what old lake??

Anonymous said...

wHAT IS THE SAYING FOR DECATUR I LEARNED IN 1990 when I moved here, I can't remember it completely?

Eighter From Decatur County Seat of Wise...
Home of bed bugs and flies...
If you ever been hit with a bucket of s*#t... ? ? ?

Anonymous said...

it's ok to say my nigga anywhere, but you can't say my nigger cept in montague county. good luck to all negroes in wise and montague.

Anonymous said...

Racism is bad on both sides, white people do it in a more private setting, blacks do it in a public way, for exapmle BET, the Negro college fund, they have so many things that are for blacks only, if white people, had college funds for whites only, whites only baseball, any thing of that nature it would be on the front of the newspaper, but we cannot question things of this nature because we would be a bunch of raciist honkies

Anonymous said...

It's about what you'd expect from Mr. Kennedy's column. You could easily find a hundred such examples here in Tarrant County.

But there's more drama in finding one in an isolated small town in a rural county, to which you can attach lore of days gone by, and in the process tarnish an entire community and county, while beating your chest about how righteous you are.

To say Bud Kennedy is a hack is charitable.

Anonymous said...

8:19, you are clueless. Have you been asleep for the last 100 years?

Anonymous said...

I want one of you non-racist to tell me exactly how are whites and blacks the same. Why are black neighborhoods always crime ridden places where all innocent people are afraid to go at night? Why aren't white neighborhoods like this??? Please explain this to me like I'm a 4 year old..thank you..

Anonymous said...

Was the sign in Sunset or Bowie?

Anonymous said...

if you want to read about the real thing go to concordiasentinel.com and click on morris murder series of stories about real white control of blacks in 1960's..you folks don't have a clue about real racism around here.

hangman said...

why is it we have black entertainment tv
black chamber of commerece
black people voting for a black man for president because he is black
black people calling names like cracker and honkey yet white people are the racist
we have black colleges black churches and i have even visited friends that have said to me you have to come to the balck part of town man let just one of these things happen where it is a white man saying them to a black man it would be racist but when the black people do it it is politically correct and acceptably

Anonymous said...

4:08's right! This issue is a tired old beaten down one. We have our way of seeing it & the blacks & guilt-ridden whites have their way of seeing it. This is an issue that will never be resolved as long as it's being shoved down peoples throats! LIVE & LET LIVE!!

Anonymous said...

10:35, you are a four year old since you need it explained. History is lost on all of you, and you are ignorant.

It isn't just "black" neighborhoods. I grew up in South Irving and didn't have anything stolen from me, nor did I feel unsafe. This was one street south of Tudor, which is infamous for the Tudor Street Kings. I've fallen asleep with my car outside, windows down. Nothing happened.

Contrast that with Chico. I have lived here for 10 years, and have had items stolen, and don't even feel safe leaving my door locked on my house. I would never leave my car windows down or the doors unlocked.

If you honestly think its different, you're wrong.

Anonymous said...

The races are definitely DIFFERENT. That doesn't mean one is better or worse, but they are different. i don't see how anyone can argue that. Culturally, socially, physically, everything...they are different.

As for the past, it's our history and I find it fascinating. Not to judge our ancestors, but to learn about them. That was just the way it was back then, and I think it's funny. times have changed, true, some for good, but some for the worse. We had a black "negra" maid my entire childhood and she was wonderful and a part of the family. I don't see what's wrong with that. She wasn't a slave...she was a paid employee. But she was from a different generation and wouldn't sit in the front seat of our car, no matter how much we tried to get her to do so. She said it "wasn't right". Very sweet and wonderful woman. That's our heritage. You can't rewrite it and wish it away. I embrace it as my childhood.

Anonymous said...

I'm from Miami, FL. I was born in 1963 and was called whitey and honkey very often.

I lived in Bowie for 6 months and heard my pastor use the term nigger rigged. Needless to say, I didn't live there long.

I don't notice a lot of racist talk in Wise County, but I'm sure it's there.

No more BET, NAACP, all black dances, Negro College fund...

Both sides need to stop...

Bud Kennedy is a hack.

Anonymous said...

You poor, oppressed white people. I feel your pain, everywhere you go you are looked down upon. Turning on the TV, nothing but brown faces leering back at you. Its been rough your whole life. You poor babies.

Anonymous said...

924..thanks, i needed that.

Anonymous said...

"wow way to show something 104 years old. i went to school in bowie and had an african american teacher and a couple of classmates that were black."

2:44 PM


What exactly is an african american? Some one born in the Contenent of Africa and legally imigrated to the United States and became an American citizen?
Or is it just a BLACK person?

FYI, Africa is NOT a country.

Anonymous said...

What old tree...?

Anonymous said...

no we are all the same. what makes us all different is. the way we were raised. and what we chooose to believe in. its if we want to learn and understand why other races do what they do. or how they do it.2346

Anonymous said...

Some of my Montague County ancestors were so pissed when slavery was abolished that they moved to Brazil and took their slaves with them.....I have lots of cousins in Brazil.

My grandmother worked at a sewing factory in Gainesville, and one of her best friends was black. One day the lady and her family came to visit.........after they left, I could hear my grandmother talking on the telephone, telling her friends how she sprayed Lysol on the toilet seat after they left. She has probably turned over in her grave now that one of my nieces married a black man. I was always abhorred at your racism, but I loved you just the same, Gran.

It's time for us all to get over it......color of skin is not the issue, it's what's inside that counts......

Anonymous said...

1254 how many o's is day in chooose..??

Anonymous said...

lol my mistake there is 2 o's in choose sorry my bad. lol2346 Happy now.