3.01.2009

Allow Myself To Call Attention To Myself

Rush Limbaugh. Sean Hannity. Ann Coulter. They simply spit out shock value to gain attention. And here, sadly, I'm suckered into giving them that attention. From Coulter's most recent column where she discusses our President's most recent address to the nation:
After claiming that the disastrous stimulus bill would create or save 3.5 million jobs -- "more than 90 percent" in the private sector -- Obama then enumerated a long list of exclusively government jobs that would be "saved." He was suspiciously verbose about saving the jobs of public schoolteachers. Because nothing says "economic stimulus" better than saving the jobs of lethargic incompetents who kick off at 2 p.m. every day and get summers off. Actually, that's not fair: Some teachers spend long hours after school having sex with their students.

77 comments:

Anonymous said...

The truth hurts when it's magnificently eloquated especially when it's done by someone that's highly intelligent and beautiful to boot.

Anonymous said...

I'm a school teacher. She's pretty much correct in saying that the prez should be concerned with other things. Yes we are underpaid...and I wish we could take off at 2:00, 3:00, or even 4:00 o'clock....however, he needs to be more concerned with fixing the dicsipline with our "going nowhere kids".
If we install some accountability in our kids that would be better than a pay raise. The truth is that teachers will be leaving this profession because they don't want to put up with the kid who thinks it's OK to rob somebody at night and then blame the victim when the thief get hurt in the process.
Our classroom is already overcrowded with non-english speakers who, somehow, have to pass the TAKS. Give me a break, who wants to do this?

Anonymous said...

Let's just throw billions to the teachers unions and that way we can say that we care and pretend the problem is fixed.

Anonymous said...

Teachers would LOVE to get off at two, but they have too many papers to take home and grade, and nut case parents to deal with, and school supplies to go buy out of their own pockets, and emotionally scarred children they have to teach a whole lot of things to besides academics. Like, why you shouldn't bite, hit, fart, cuss, listen to music, scream, fight, shoot the bird, throw things and other stuff parents are too busy to teach.

Anonymous said...

I have officially lost faith, you people actually agree with this woman.

Anonymous said...

Children are taught not much at home. How can that happen when the parents are fighting, drinking, doping - IF THEY ARE STILL A MATCHED SET - and the kids skip out to do whatever.

They have no respect for ANY authority UNLESS that authority packs a gun.

Teachers are dared to discipline a child because the wrath of the parents is upon them.

Then we say it is because they are from a dystunctional family or abused or one color or another.

Every parent should be obliged to spend one week as a substitute teacher and be graded on what they accomplished with the rude, inconsiderate, butt baring, foul mouthed "students".

Not all students waste their time in school BUT they are overshadowed by the ones marking time until their nightly escapades.

These time wasters had better watch their backs because the Obama gestapo is being formed as we speak and all this protectionism will be a thing of the past unless your are a black or latino.

Anonymous said...

9:20
Have you ever been in a school in a state with a powerful teacher union? It's a scary thing...Remember a few years ago before the state shut down Wilmer-Hutchins? Those schools were well run compared to many you will find in union states.

Anonymous said...

She may say some ugly things, but she is HOT!

wordkyle said...

The three you mentioned are professional commentators whose job is to get the largest audience they can. That having been said, it doesn't negate the truth of what they say. Ann Coulter's most salient points are often buried under her hyperbole. Check out Rush's keynote speech at CPAC to see what his take on Conservatism is. He expresses core beliefs that the majority of Americans hold. (Listen to the speech to see why that statement is true.) Of course, his detractors won't bother. Far easier to comment on what they think is the truth, rather than to discover the truth for themselves. To dismiss what Rush and Coulter say as merely shock-jocking is very misguided.

Anonymous said...

It is amazing to me how upset ultra-conservatives and Republicans can get about what Obama is trying to do. Do they not realize that their own party screwed up so badly that it made it possible to for a black man to be elected president! GASP!!

If Mr. Bush is not to blame for the last 8 years, you can't blame Mr. Obama for the next 8!

Anonymous said...

"The majority of Americans" hold Rush's beliefs? Check the election results, hoss. That group lost.

And to think they will ever elect one of "their candidates" again is a pipe dream. That train has left the station.

Anonymous said...

Who is she calling incompetant? - if it was not for a teacher she would not be able to read or form ignorant comments like this-

and by the way - there is not a teacher in the world who leaves at 2:00 and spends the summer "off". Teachers do more- for less money. They actually care about the future of this country.

M-M said...

Barry, your blog validates part of her point with your "And Another" entries.

wordkyle said...

1039 - Yeah, I was expecting that, but didn't want to add to the bulk of my previous post. If you think your candidate(s) won based on principles, then you're deluding yourself. (A quick example: How many Americans do you think believe in bigger government?) Obama won the election with sizzle, not steak.

Anonymous said...

I'm a big Obama supporter, big Ann Coulter hater, and a first time caller.

However...

I share her sentiments on teachers.

Anonymous said...

I teach at DHS - I've been a teacher for decades. I love my job; I love the subjects I teach; I love the kids I teach; I find redeeming qualities in almost every kid I teach.

But I get to work at 7:00 and I leave around 5:30 or 6:00, sometimes later. If I need to leave by 4:30, I can arrange that, but if I do, I leave things undone that must be done later. I work weekends. I was at the school yesterday (Sunday) from 1:30 until 6:00. While I was there both the teacher across the hall from me and the teacher next door to me came in to work.

I do have a nice summer break, but about half of it is spent doing school work or attending conferences. After 30 years in my profession, I make a little over $53,000. Not bad, but both my children's starting salary out of college was more than that, quite a bit more, which made this mother (& their father) quite happy.

When I first read Ms. Coulter's comments, I was outraged - she obviously does not know what she is talking about. But then I remembered that she said something in regard to the 9/11 widows that was insulting - something about using their husbands' deaths to benefit themselves.

So I'm in good company.

The few times I have seen or listened to Ann Coulter, I just think, that is not a happy woman. I'm glad I'm not her.

I gotta go now because so I won't be late to school.

Anonymous said...

It's not the substance of Coulter's conservative views that bother me - actually I agree with a lot of those (except for her unjust attack on teachers).......

...her skinney a$$ wouldn't last a day in their shoes.

Jarhead said...

She's a Cleveland Brown: good uniform, bad helmet.

Anonymous said...

Since Obama pushed through the stimulus bill and announced a radical agenda spending trillions of dollars not earned, I listened to Rush on Fox for the very first time. Also, I've listend to Ann on Fox.

As a moderate fiscal conservative Democrat, I never agreed with the Bush administration "debt doesn't matter" when fighting the war on terror!

Agreeing most Americans are conservative, I think it it time to reach out to the 18 million voters who supported Hillary Clinton in the primary. Obama is part of the hard left and barely defeated Hillary by help from the DNC. A lot of red state Democrats are centrists and should not go along with radically changing our country. Voters who were discontent voted for reform, not radically changing our country forever.

Today, I will start contacting red state democrats to stand up for fiscal conservative principles. Unless they have the courage to stop the radical agenda, our country, instead of shared prosperity, we will have shared poverty!

Our hope is all Democrats will not go along with the delusional agenda of Obama. We the people are the majority and never in our history is it as critical to make our voices heard.

For the supporters of the radical agenda, remember if ALL of the money of those making over $250,000were taxed, it would not pay for Obama's agenda! Please don't depend on promises made that will only be broken.

Anonymous said...

She is a professional troll, no more.

Anonymous said...

So as a teacher you pull $53K, then your salary is above the national average of $45k for a two working adult family salary. So your paid pretty good, quit bitching.

Anonymous said...

Figures just released from MIT on Fox News on impact on Obama's cap and trade energy plan:

Increase in gas tax $30 to $300 dollars per month increase in gasoline depending on how much you drive.

68% increase in cost of electricity.

Contact Democrats now to block cap and trade increases in time of economic slow down!

Anonymous said...

53K to teach people at a high school or below level. Overpaid.

Anonymous said...

8:31 I believe that was $53K after 30+ years. Soldiers and teachers, the most underpaid and underappreciated group in the American work force. What are your years of service and your salary? I am sure it is either far more or far less which ever makes you look better. As for the "bitching", look me up and let's talk about your language and how your parents maybe should have taught you some etiquette.

Anonymous said...

yea but the soldiers are winning 9:15. the teachers are just wining, while the education just gets worse and worse.

Anonymous said...

Ann can certainly get an attitude at times, but she makes you think! We need someone to speak up and question King Obama and all the Demo's in control.

Anonymous said...

Like you Barry, she overstates certain things for a wider audience....at least I hope you don't really believe much of the ridiculous things you write.

Anonymous said...

Once again Barry, why in the Heck are you still in Wise County? I understand that sometimes it's nice to be the voice of reason, but sometimes reason is completely lost. I lose a little more of my faith in my home town when I read comments on your blog

Anonymous said...

I'd like to see Little Annie Coulter teach on-level high school classes. She wouldn't last a day.

It's really easy to criticize teachers when your "job" consists of whining and appearing on TV.

Anonymous said...

9:31, you need to pull your head out of your beind. Where are the Soldiers winning? We have been in Iraq all of this time and we have not won. We can stay for ten more years and we still will not win. Or we can just leave and save the lives of our brave soldiers who have tried in vain. You can not force people to think your way, only teach them to. Too bad that Mr. Bush didn't know that, which has caused the life of so many and crippled so many. Sad!

Daniella said...

Once, in college, my car was towed from a Taco Bell parking lot at 9 in the morning (it seems that establishment had grown tired of students using their parking lot for class). The towing company's fee was $150 cash. No exceptions. For a college student, that was at least a month's worth of groceries, and I went all over town cashing $50 checks (pre-ATM days), and scraping together change to get my car out of "jail". I was so upset by the situation, my stupidity, and the harsh treatment given to me by the wrecking company employees. I couldn't fathom having a job whose entire purpose was to make someone's life miserable. Every day those men dealt with upset, angry people needing their transportation. Everyday those men ruined someone's day.

As a teacher, Ms. Coulter's statement actually made me ill. When I first began my teaching career, I was on fire to teach science to my kids-I was overwhelmed with ideas on how to include fun, relevant activities into those classes. I spent hours before and after school crafting each lesson until I thought it was just perfect. As I've progressed in my career and philosophy, I still love my subject, and still love planning lessons-but now I teach kids science. Instead of my lesson being my main focus, it is the students in my classroom. Every one of them has a story, and many of them have so much more to learn than science. I hope when they leave my classroom that I have had a positive impact on their day and their character. I also hope they gained some of my beloved scientific knowledge, but I also know that will come. I can't imagine having a job or an opinion that would willingly hurt another person.

Is every teacher perfect? Absolutely not-but show me a profession whose every member is perfect, and I will be stunned.

Ms. Coulter-I understand you are neither married nor have any children. I know a certain wrecking company in College Station with some bachelors that are right up your alley.

Anonymous said...

53k plus that nice long summer vacation, plus all those days during the year?
Pretty sweet! No sympathy.

Anonymous said...

10:59, maybe you should just teach science instead of the socialist mush you are spreading.

sorry about your car....NOT

Anonymous said...

I am astounded at the number of people here who think $53K a year is too much money for the people who are educating your children. Do you know how many times these people spend their own money on supplies because the school's budget won't allow for necessary materials?

If your children are anything like you, I'd say $53K is way too low to babysit your ungrateful brats everyday.

Anonymous said...

12:11
I think you are just using the buzzword of the day -"socialist". You obviously don't know what it means -

10:59 said "I hope when they leave my classroom that I have had a positive impact on their day and their character. I also hope they gained some of my beloved scientific knowledge."

What does that have to do with socialism?

And 10:59 - pay no attention to 12:11. His post is downright mean and bitter, and has nothing to do with you and everything to do with him. Perhaps an Ann Coulter wannabe?

Thanks for caring about your students overall well-being.

Anonymous said...

Last time I checked - $53K for 30 years in a professional (white-collar) job was not that great.

Who are you people?
(Don't answer that - I don't really want to know.)

Anonymous said...

Ann Coulter is priceless and she's spot on with the teacher bit.

You teachers are not any better than anyone else in this world so get over it. I assure you there are thousands of people who work harder than you think you do that deserve more.

You should try some cheese with that whine of yours.

Anonymous said...

Help me understand the complaint by teachers about supplies that are purchased personally by them?

Does the school force you to purchase these items on your own? Or, are these additional items something you yourself choose to apply with your personally chosen lesson?

goober said...

Barry:

If you could get Ann down home to Wise County just for one weekend, I bet you could change her entire outlook on life. A little time with you wining and dining her, and introduce her to some of her "loyal" supporters from the Bubbahood, and I bet she would be a changed woman. Give it a shot!

Anonymous said...

Love Ann Coulter...hate Obama...think education in this country being so abysmal is why we finally got enough people so stupid the would elect this idiot presidnet.

Anonymous said...

There seems to be a lot of animosity towards the teachers of Wise County here. I have a son and a daughter attending Decatur High School and I will tell you personally from my observations that these professionals go way beyond what is expected of them. They do what they do because they love it. My children participate in fine arts, some sports...and one even does flamenco dancing. Be grateful that there are people out there that go beyond the expected and do the extra. I do not know many people who would do what they do for the money. These are college educated people here...not burger flippers....they deserve our respect...and they have mine. I would suspect that the educated people of the community "get it."

Anonymous said...

53K for 8.5 months a year, $6,235.29 a month.

8.5 includes the 2 weeks off during the winter.

Am I wrong?

Anonymous said...

Yes, 3:40, you're wrong. The 3 month summer hasn't been around for years. First of all, the summer vacation is not a full 3 months. Secondly, teachers attend seminars, conferences, and plan in groups and individually for several weeks out of the summer. I usually spend 4 to 5 weeks during the summer working on school work. I'm not complaining about that; I'm just answering your question.

What you guys don't understand is that there is a lot more to teaching than just the hours when the students are there. School days and classrooms hours are only a part of our job. Planning, curriculum updates, grading, and extra-curriculars are all done when kids are not at school,

I work several days during Christmas, as do most others.

Anonymous said...

I would totally do Ann Coulter- does that make me a gayboy?

Anonymous said...

How many months is it then 4:14?

2.5?

Anonymous said...

8:31 & 11:03 - I'm 5:52AM -
Re-read my post, especially the first paragraph. I was neither complaining not asking for your sympathy. I was just offering facts to dispute Ms. Coulter's assertion that teachers get off work at 2:00. That's absurd.

I love my job; the emotional rewards far outweigh the financial ones. I am appreciative to DISD that they keep up the pay scale for teachers that have been around as long as I have. As a teacher, I never expected to make as much as I am making, and I am grateful. However, it is true that teacher salaries rank among the lowest of professional positions. A young teacher doesn't start where I am; most professionals make much more than I do after they have been in their field for 30 years, as I have. At least every professional of 30 years that I know, makes much more than I do.

However, I am not complaining, just stating a fact. The intangible rewards I receive are SECOND to NONE.

I would not trade places with anyone. I wish everyone enjoyed their job as much as I do.

But I will not be silent while someone like Ann Coulter demeans my profession, a subject she knows nothing about, as is evidenced by her statements that are absolutely untrue.

Anonymous said...

Too bad the kids can't read or write or do math or think as well as the rest of the world...doesn't matter what time you get off work if what you left in your wake is ignorance. The teachers should be fighting to improve education...they are almost always against any innovation ... not only do we get what we pay for...we pay for what we get.

Anonymous said...

5:05 -
And where do you get your information as to the state of education? ARe you comparing apples to oranges, as in comparing school systems that educate the elite as compared to ours which educates everyone?

And puh-lease - the education of your children has something to do with the parent. Supportive parents who value education have kids that do well. Parents that don't support the teachers and the schools their children go to....well sometimes their kids do well, but often they don't do so well. Their attitudes about education are reflective of their parents' attitude.

Anonymous said...

1:23
I do not consider myself to be better than anyone. However, unless you are in the medical profession, a fire fighter, soldier, or a member of law enforcement, then my contributions to society are greater than yours. If that makes you feel inferior, I suggest that you find a profession that will provide you with greater personal satifaction.

Anonymous said...

All you ignorant people have no idea what teachers do- someone should have taught YOU some manners and common sense. I challenge you to think back to your education (probably only made it to the 6th grade, from the looks of your comments)and try to remember it without some caring teacher who went the extra mile to make sure you succeeded. Fat good it did her too- now you are just making an ass of yourself on a blog bad mouthing teachers who CARE. Do you even have jobs? Maybe you should have taken in more of an education and found yourself a real job. Teachers are trying to help your little shit kids (who also have NO manners) learn and do better in life than you did.

None of you would last one day. You morons!

Anonymous said...

1:23 - You should try some originality with that post of yours.
(yawn)

Anonymous said...

I have a sister that works at school. Makes her easy to find. I too was one of the uninlited ones that thought they got three months off. Nothing could be farther from the truth. My granddaughter is starting her first year of teaching this fall.For graduating her mother bought five large cargo boxes of supplies for her students. That comes to about half of it. By the way she put herself through school.She is aa winner not a whiner 9;31 DAGO ps meet me for coffee and donuts some morning so I can give you some free spelling lessons.

Anonymous said...

People who benefitted from having good teachers only to berate teachers is typical hypocrisy. Ever met a pro-abortion person who was aborted? Ever met someone who is disgusted by an old man impregnating a 14 year old virgin, yet worships God?

no labels please said...

Ann Coulter is the anti-christ.

Anonymous said...

Why don't you bubba pricks and prickettes get Ann Coulter on the President/Vice-President in 2012. Looks like you all know what is best for the country. She and Palin would be unstoppable.

Anonymous said...

"She can certainly get an attitude at times, but she makes you think! We need someone to speak up and question King Obama and all the Demo's in control."
Where were you when King George the Bush and the Republithugs were in power?

Anonymous said...

Don't be so foolish to believe that all of the posts here are people from Wise County. Check the live traffic feed. There are people from all around Texas. I also see one from Boston.

Anonymous said...

WOW, I'm sure glad I didn't have the awful teachers calling people name like the ones on here when I was a kid. WOW.

Anonymous said...

If I had been teaching for thirty years, I think I would spend less time having group whine sessions during the summer, and more time developing a system that I could use year after year. If I had done the same basic curriculum for thirty years, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't still be waking up in a new world every fall. Why don't you get organized?

Anonymous said...

5:30 - You're kidding me right? You really think someone should be teaching the same way, the same thing for 30 years????

Surely you're not a teacher. If you are, I bet "dynamic" is not a word ever used to describe your classroom.

I still can't believe your point. THe changes in technology, the changes in the student demographics, and you think a teacher has "the same basic curriculum for thirty years"?

Tell me you're not a teacher. PLEASE!!!!

Anonymous said...

5:30 -
I had some teachers that were, in your words, "organized" and did the same old curriculum, the same old way, year after year. They made a student's time with them miserable, and students, in turn, pretty much made the teacher's life miserable too.

Not educationally sound, I would say. Surely there are very few of those types of teachers left.

Anonymous said...

I may be going to hell for this one but, I have a man-crush on Ann Coulter and I SWEAR I would do him if I had the chance.

Anonymous said...

5:30
I'm not the 30 year teacher you addressed, but I must take exception to your comment about organization. Every good teacher is adept at changing the curriculum on a regular basis. While the subject be remain the same, the world is constantly evolving, and our instruction and materials must grow and develop with these changes.

Anonymous said...

5:30 -
They have this new thing - it's called technology. It changes!

Anonymous said...

OK - Did I miss something? Is Ann Coulter a transgender? Or are we just supposing that?
That's a serious question. I really want to know. Does anyone know?

Anonymous said...

Those of you who are enjoying your teacher bashing, just keep bashing. Your kids pick up the attitude, and develope a matching one. They then spend their time texting, making You Tube videos, and generally wasting their time.

In the mean time, my Pakistani, Korean (North and South), and Vietnamese students arrive at 7:30 AM for tutorials, and stay after school as late as I will. Their parents have a reverential attitude toward teachers and a burning desire for their children to (my apologies to Thoreau) suck the very marrow from the bones of education.

Later in life, your children will complain about over paid teachers as they work for my immigrant students.

Your children have come to feel entitled. My immigrant students believe that they have to fight and claw for everything they get. Sounds sort of like our immigrant forefathers...

wordkyle said...

Interesting turn this conversation's taken. Coulter's original remark was based, I think, on this equation:

Teachers = Teachers Unions
Teachers Unions = Obama supporters
"Stimulus" Bill = Payback for their support

Therefore, in Ann Coulter's eyes, it was okay to take potshots at teachers, as they constituted recipients of ill-gotten loot. I disagree with her attack on teachers, whereas I completely agree with her characterization of the Democrat spending bill as political payola. She pointed out that little of the money given to "education" actually makes it to teachers. The educational warlords take their cut first, and most of the rest goes to bureaucrats.

As I said before, she sometimes hides her valid points under too much hyperbole. To enjoy her writing, it helps to have a sense of humor, which Liberals seem to lack.

Anonymous said...

Well put 3:34 and I agree, The educated people of Wise County probably do get it. Those who don't give a care about how we educate their kids - well they all feel we're overpaid, we get 3 months vacation (ha - when was the last time you checked the summer calendar?) come in at 8 and leave at 5 (I wish), yada yada yada.

By the way, DISD has a substitute teacher training day coming later this month - try it out. And, don't start playing your tiny violin until you've walked a mile in our shoes.

My children in DISD ahve received and still are- an excellent education from educators who often work 7 days a week, and that's not speculation; it's a fact!

Anonymous said...

Check out any school calendar. "Summer" is roughly two months and a week - at best!

Anonymous said...

5:05, if you think teachers are fighting against any innovation, you obviously haven't darkened the doors of Decatur High School this year.

You know not what you speak of. Get a clue!

Anonymous said...

7:07 you hit the nail on the head. While some feel entitled yours are eager and willing to learn, not just to be taught.

Those who feel entitled are the same ones whose parents are griping on this blog about teachers.

It's a sad downward spiraling staircase.

Anonymous said...

Haha! "Love Ann Coulter...hate Obama...think education in this country being so abysmal is why we finally got enough people so stupid the would elect this idiot presidnet.
3:24 PM"
Haha!!!! And you voted for W. Bush twice. Or maybe 3 times. For PresidNEt!
HaHahaaaaa!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Hey 10:31...you are the stupid one...you can't spell. Perhaps you should get an education yourself before posting such ignorant rhetoric.

Anonymous said...

"Check out any school calendar. "Summer" is roughly two months and a week - at best!"

and every holiday known to man....

Anonymous said...

No 7:22, youse be the stupid one. That was a cut and paste from 3:24, and intentional spelling of president like 324 did it. HaHa you silly fool. Reread it.

Anonymous said...

1st post 8:29 you said: "...highly intelligent and beautiful to boot."
If you think Coulter is beautiful, you probably think the cyst on Rush Limbaugh's ass is beautiful also. They probably look a whole lot alike.

Anonymous said...

Sorry. Meant to say a "hole" lot alike. Like the old joke: you gotta match? Yea, Coulters face and Limba's ass.