2.23.2006

The "A" Word

South Dakota just passed law, awaiting the governor's signature, that outlaws virtually all abortions. It is clearly unconstitutional based upon the 1973 decision of Roe v. Wade. Uh....wait....I don't think Alito and Roberts were on the court back then, were they? The battle has begun. (But if the Supreme Court overturns Wade, it doesn't mean that abortion automatically becomes illegal across the nation. It will be up to each State legislature to make that decision. With this caveat: If there are any abortion laws still on the books that were never repealed. they would automatically spring back into life. I'm trying to determine if Texas ever repealed its abortion law - something I serously doubt). Edit: Texas no longer has an abortion law because it has been "repealed by implication" (a concept that made my head hurt). See McCorvey v. Hill, No. 03-10711 (5th Cir. 2004)

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

Its about time!!!!! Murder is murder!
Now I know that upsets you libs

Anonymous said...

On one thing there can be no debate. I guarantee you will not debate me on this. It's impossible, because it is an absolute fact. And it's this: all those people that are in favor of abortion....were not themselves aborted. A little hypocritical bent is built in to everyone that is in favor. Now, if the aborted fetuses could cast a vote???

Anonymous said...

Amen

comment4U said...

"The battle has begun." And, may it be won...

Excellent, CRITICAL point, Anon @ 2:44.

wizard said...

I said it before, and I will say it again:
If abortion is outlawed, four things will be true:
1) The wealthy and people of "means" will still have abortions, if not in this country, in some other,
2)The poor will have babies, even with no means of support,
3)The lower and middle classes will pay for for number 2 above, and
4) Every unscrupulous third-year med student trying to complete their education will open a back alley, hole-in-the-wall abortion clinic. These,when caught, will be proscuted with the same zeal as possessed by those who outlawed abortion in the first place, and will be imprisoned and supported by the same group supporting those individuals in (2) above.

comment4U said...

So, we should just legalize drugs, murder and everything else in order to save ourselves the trouble? That's what you're saying, you know.

Great bumpersticker I saw @ Christmas: "Aren't you glad Mary wasn't Pro-Choice?"

wizard said...

Just telling you how it was in the early 1960's. Churchill was right.

comment4U said...

Wizard! Churchill was a self-serving politician who would sell half of his wife's soul if it benefited his career.

You're better than offering him up...

Anonymous said...

comment2u said:

amen wizard.

Anonymous said...

Glad there's a wizard out there. There are no simplistic answers to complex situations and abortion is very complicated. It will have to stay legal in order to SAVE lives. Too many people are not in the real world here.

Anonymous said...

god bless south dakota!!!!! now my second favorite state.

Anonymous said...

this decision to do this while good scares me this is the way that pres bush and his right wingers have come up with to rewrite the laws with his new judges of the highest court in the usa remember the antichrist will not look like the devil he will be well versed and look like a good christian person hum i wonder

Collectionsite said...

Not... ALL DEMOCRATES ... believe in Abortion.

"Three Cheers" for South Dakota

Anonymous said...

I am with you Wizard. And for all of you on the pill or whose spouse is on the pill, screaming abortion is murder...go look in the mirror. Because exactly when are you saying life begins....You are such hypocrites.

Collectionsite said...

Anon @ 7:13 Pm ....

What about us guys who are fixed ??

Are we Hypocrites Too or Just Responsible People?

comment4U said...

Anon @ 7:13, before earlier this week, I'd be AGREEING all over the page with you. However....I actually posed this same argument to a good friend of mine. Being in the medical profession, she took it to several doctors, and before a hospital ethics committee, no less. The girl can research....turns out, the age-old OB doc who told me that BC pills were abortionistic was wrong.

And, although my dear girlfriend is ProChoice to my ProLife, she wouldn't skew the results of her digging just to beat me...

Anonymous said...

Women get pregnant with men. Some women regret it - can't deal with it. Those women should have the right to control their bodies. If they choose to end a pregnancy - it should be their choice and responsibility.

Now once the child is born, society has the responsibility to protect, educate and encourage it.

Anonymous said...

Comment4U....is this ironic or what?....but I have to agree with wizard...that's what will happen all over again......

fluff said...

Just a passing thought.....given the ratio of men/women in our judicial, executive, and legislative branches of govt....do you think abortion would be legal if men were the ones giving birth?

Anonymous said...

collectionsite you are a responsible person --life never begins with you....

Anonymous said...

comment4u Being pro-choice doesnt mean you have to get an abortion it means you have the choice. It means government doesn't tell you what you have to do when it is your body..it means that if you are raped and conceive you have the choice of not having a rapist's baby..it means if your life is at stake-- you have the choice of not giving birth..you, the one who will pay all the price decides--not a judge or a legislature--just you...and you are the one that has to live with your decision. This is way to personal to let anyone other than the woman decide....because they are the ones who will either have to carry the child to term or choose not to..If men had to give birth abortion would be free.

Anonymous said...

Murder is murder! There is no way around it!

comment4U said...

I agree, 8:15. You can wash it in ten shades of grey, 5:42, but the end result, each and every time, is a dead child. At the very possibility of a fert'ed egg being flushed as a result of The Pill has me abstaining to this day. ( It's ironic that G'Friend and I had the discussion, and the resulting research, right before Barry's post. ) I find it encouraging that her probing got a "no" from the Ethics committee, however, I still would not re-up with The Pill, just in case...

You know, it's really simple to me. Don't screw around without some forethought, don't get pregnant. Those of us who may find ourselves with an "oops," well, be a wo'MAN' and deal with your consequences.

And the rape question? I'm still thinking that every child, who has been a result of a rape, is grateful to have life.

I still LOVE what Anon @ 2:44 (top of page) posed, "...if the aborted fetuses could cast a vote???"

Anonymous said...

The measure of all great societies is how they protect the most vulnerable among them. We have once again failed as of late. Being adopted, I loudly cheer my biological mother's decision to allow me to live. In fact, I have never met an adopted child who wished their biological mother had chosen abortion.

Anonymous said...

Some still don't get it. Women must carry these unwanted fetuses if abortion is not one of their choices. Very unfortunately, many of these unwanteds who are born are treated very poorly by their parent(s) and society.

I vote for women to have the choice. I also vote for society to do a better job helping to provide for our children - all of them.

Anonymous said...

PRO LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cole Holiday said...

Be free to choose what you want. Choice is good, fascists.