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Congress made it a federal crime in 2006 for a person to "falsely represents himself or herself, verbally or in writing, to have been awarded any decoration or medal authorized by Congress for the armed forces of the United States . . . . " They even gave it a fancy name: "The Stolen Valor Act."
Yep. If you say, for example, that you were awarded the Medal of Honor, you can go to the federal slammer for a year.
What's that little clause in the First Amendment again?
The Supreme Court said today it would hear a case challenging the statute's constitutionality. Seems like a no brainer.
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I guess you could make the pitch that lying about receiving the Medal of Honor is your political or creative expression or something, and not just the way you're running a con job on people.
the law should have been more specific - like stating that it's a crime to make that statement, falsely, on an official form or application. Or to make a profit from making that claim, falsely. But then, who's gonna arrest a guy if he just makes that claim in a bar?
Although we have freedom of speech, that doesn't mean it can be used to deceive or commit a crime. Some things shouldn't be said:
"I'm going to kill (insert name)"
"There's a bomb in that building"
"I have over 100 severed penises in pickle jars in my mini storage"
You get the idea.
Who in their right mind would say they were somebody they weren't in the first place?
Oh wait.....we deal with that on here don't we?
Great to see that Congress concentrating on important issues.
I agree w/ your point, it does seem like a no brainer.
I won't take the time to research, but I would like to know who introduced, sponsored, voted for, etc. on that legislation. Whoever held a supportive position on that bill should be outed. Course, there were probably all kinds of ammendments doing who knows what attached to this, or this could have been an ammendment to something else. '06, so was this the Pelosi-Reid Congress?
I don't think the first amendment makes it okay to lie. If you are lying about receiving the medal of honor or any military medal, there is the possibility that you receive benefits from that statement...free meals, discounts from businesses, etc.
If the first amendment absolved you from all lies, there would be no such thing as fraud.
A bill introduced by a liberal weenie being criticized by a liberal weeenie.
I guess you could make the pitch that lying about receiving the Medal of Honor is your political or creative expression or something, and not just the way you're running a con job on people.
Or you could say that it's freedom of speech.
The con job is already illegal, numbnuts.
You get the idea.
But you don't.
But then, who's gonna arrest a guy if he just makes that claim in a bar?
And therein lies the point. People brag and lie. Big deal. Profiting from that lie is called fraud. It's already illegal. Stop making bullshit laws that simultaneously inhibit our freedom of speech and inhibit dudes' ability to mack on drunk ladies.
Oh wait.....we deal with that on here don't we?
Not at all. Every one of wordkyle's posts prop up his internet reputation, remember? He's not anonymous at all, he's wordkyle, and he's internet famous and self-supportingly credible.
Rage
Wow BG. You say that as if you are not a believer in the constitution. Did you take an oath or something to get your law license that said you would uphold the constitution? If that is not a "no-brainer" to you , then I don't want you representing me in any legal case.
Big Ed
I am an american and eligible to be president?
First thing I'm going to do as president is bring home the troops?
I take take that peace prize cause I aint doing that war thing anymore?
I saved or created 2,000,000 jobs?
I've thought about that before...
It seems to me that a law that criminalizes falsely claiming Vet awards in order to obtain something... Well, that would be a specific kind of fraud... You might even be able to really stick it to them in the punishment phase to make the underlying value clear.
But merely claiming it with no discernible benefit...
Of course, since when did "Congress shall make no law" start meaning "Congress shall make NO law"?
To preserve protect and defend the constitution, the government would have to have been overthrown years ago..
Should I mix Beano and Viagra?
FYI the House version was introduced by John Salazar D, Colorodo and the Senate version was introduced by Kent Conrad D, North Dakota. Might want to pump those brakes a bit counselor. Thank God Democrats are the only true patriots according to Linda Sanchez, the illustrious Democratic congresswoman from California, land of true patriotism. If Republicians were as patriotic as Dems we might not have any freedoms left.
Someone did that to me at a party once.
Is it also a crime to falsely represent oneself as an attorney?
What if I said Wordkyle got a purple heart for getting injured on the way to his medal of honor ceremony just after posing for a sculptor so they could add him to the Iwo Jima monument. Would that get him in trouble?
Might want to pump those brakes a bit counselor.
Why? Unlike you, he can criticize (or support) people no mater their part affiliation. Dipshits like you are the ones who can't.
Rage
Is it also a crime to falsely represent oneself as an attorney?
Not on a blog.
/thank god
Rage
Poor Rage became all defensive over my comment and had to turn it around on someone who is a far cry from being a faker.
"It" knew exactly who I was talking about.
LMAO
That guy was soo Gay they had to tape his mouth shut.
Show me where I was defensive.
And then, get a sense of humor. Buy one of you have to.
Rage
Aww..Rage did I touch a sensitive nerve. You are the most vile, disruptive, hateful sack of crap I have ever had the misfortune to come across. I hope to God that someday your bitterness can evaporate and you are able to see yourself for the small minded hate spewing individual you are. I was simply informing the counselor (who can take constructive criticism and can acknowledge information he might disagree with) of the party affiliation here. Generally I ignore your vitriole but today I think I will point out to you what you will refuse to acknowledge. I have tried to speak to you in the past like an adult but because you act like an immature childish thug who must always resort to name calling I have come to realize that is impossible. Thanks for once again proving that if all Dems are like you then this is truly a revolution between left and right and trolls like you must be defeated before you destroy everything with your hate. You truly bring out the absolute worst in people and then hide behind a smug attitude of superiority. Trash.
Snap! Snap! Snap! (in a Z formation). Take that Rage.
You are the most vile, disruptive, hateful sack of crap I have ever had the misfortune to come across.
Really? Wow, you really have no idea what the real world is like, do you? It was apparent to me already, but now you've basically admitted it.
You truly bring out the absolute worst in people
No, I'm sure you still have a ways to go. I think you're a pretty awful person, but I didn't bring out your worst. when you cheered for the uninsured guy to die during the presidential (sic) debate, that was your worst.
Rage
Wow, how very insensitive you people are to the ones who HAVE raised their hands and taken the oath to protect this country from enemies, both foreign and domestic. I put you people in the latter.
This country has laws. ALL of those laws limit our constitutional rights in one way or another. Why is it illegal to yell FIRE in a crowded room? Why is it illegal to say there may be a bomb in a school? Why is it illegal to run a red light. ( I like to drive fast, that's just my own personal expression of excitement.)
Isn't it illegal to impersonate a police officer? Why?
How dare you all care so little about those who have fought to keep YOUR liberties! No one should be allowed to misrepresent their service to this country because it demeans those who DO A JUST SERVICE TO THIS COUNTRY!
I'm not going to get on a soapbox about this or explain it any further. Morons even understand why this is law. What does that say about you folks? Most importantly, what does this say about this blog's author? Of course, we've all already seen what Mr. Green's attitude is toward those who have served in our armed forces. I don't put much stock in what he feels about that though, since he never had guts enough or patriotism enough to raise his hand and take that oath.
4:24
Glad to see you are against spewing hate......
Uhm yeah- about that: I'm a police officer. Make a little more sense now esse"?
Rage,
I usually don't post, but I always enjoy your posts. They always make me chuckle, as well as the responses they provoke. You really got under someone's skin this time. Keep it up!
Anyone who reads this blog more than once will know I have tried to be civil to Rage in the past. I have never insulted another person on this blog. Not once. Rage on the other hand attacks and insults people everyday. He even attacks those who agree with him. Think what you will of me. I know who I am. And Rage, just curious when you saw me cheering for people to die. Or are you making an asinine generalization? And I am fully aware of what this world is like. I deal with the indigent, mentally ill, sick, and injured everyday. I stand by my statements regarding you.
To Consilium ac prudentia @4:24...
BRAVA!/BRAVO!
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