- Trials are exhausting. Mine
raps wraps up this morning with closing arguments.
- At least one blog reader was on the jury panel yesterday. He didn't make it to the final jury, but he emailed me last night with some kind words.
- There was an article in a legal journal the other day that lawyers should use Facebook to do research on potential jurors. That's a great idea except most Facebook profiles are private and your typical Wise County panel isn't the best demographic for being Facebook users.
- But yesterday, while the State was conducting voir dire, I checked out one young guy on the panel with Facebook. I'll be dang, I had a hit and was able to find out some important information about him. I ended up cutting him from the panel.
- The murder of the pastor at Northpointe Baptist Church in Arlington is shocking. Beaten to death in the church. No matter how strong your faith, that would have to rock it.
- Fox 4 reported this morning that charges against a Midlothian City Councilman for Indececncy With A Child had been dismissed because the victim recanted. A quick Internet search revealed that the girl had recanted even before he was indicted. Another case of reckless prosecution.
- I don't follow UFC, but based upon everyone talking about it, it has already exceeded boxing in popularity.
- To all you folks that make comments about the Alvord ISD situation, a lot of those won't go through because they make some allegations which don't seem to be part of the public record.
- The trees that have the white blooms on them will probably peak in about a week. That is, unless a freeze doesn't get them this weekend. I'd hate that.
- Mazda issues a recall for the weirdest reason ever: Spiders.
- I'm still not sure about the iPad (even though the original's price is going to drop next week.)
- The deadline for the NFL owners and Players Union to hammer out an agreement was supposed to expire yesterday when a lockout was supposed to occur, but the two agree to extend it 24 hours. That's just for show. They are miles apart and the extension is just a PR ploy to make you believe they are really trying to resolve the issue.
- Loved the video of the last second shot yesterday that I posted. Well, here's one of a kid almost getting killed while getting undercut.
- Unemployment dipped to 8.9% this morning. Let me say it again: If the economy turns around, and by all signs it is, Obama is a shoe-in for re-election.
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no way the economy holds until then. Look @ how many teachers are going to be out of work in two months. The loss of teacher jobs is a direct result of state budget cuts, and those cuts will have an impact in other sectors, not just schools. What is happening in Texas is happening all over the country. Unemployment may have dipped for the last quarter, but watch it spike over the next eight months.
BYB= Bang Your Banjo!
So, there's "rapping" up in the courthouse now? Is Snoop Dogg there?:)
The unemployment rate does not take into account all the people who have resigned from the system. And, a little known fact is that the formulas used to calculate it are very easily tweaked to steer the rate one way or the other. No surprise that, even though more and more people are losing jobs, that we are "adding jobs". Where are they? Use the smell test, people.
Is it against the rules to push a player when he is dunking a ball?
The mazda spiders reminds me of my cars. In late fall if the doors haven't been opened, fly catcher spiders make white cocoon webs with them in it on the inside of the doors. Cars are not well sealed these days, so a lot of dust accummulates also.
If Obama gets re-elected, I'm moving to Lybia.
You could be right about the economy. Of course, if gasoline is $4+ a gallon, and overall inflation is up due to rising energy costs, then Obama's anti-American oil policies might be on people's minds. (Obama's White House even went so far as to -- tsk, tsk -- falsify reports to damage the American oil industry.)
I believe the word you're looking for, Counselor, is "wraps" unless you plan to break into a little NWA, KRS One or Run-DMC this morning. Although, I'd love to hear some "Eff tha Police" from you in court.
Keep hope alive.
"That's a great idea except most Facebook profiles are private and your typical Wise County panel isn't the best demographic for being Facebook users."
Another assumption on your part Barry? Because I see folks around town on their phones at lunch, waiting for appointments etc. on FB all the time. It is MUCH bigger than you think, used by more than you would think
How is it anti-American to want green jobs that are sourced primarily in the US to help limit imported oil and natural gas, which is a threat to our national security?
Rage
Also, I'd say the biggest obstacle to researching Facebookers is time. If you're a one man show, you don't have time to look everyone up on facebook and still keep an eye on what the ADA is doing and how the jury reacts to them.
Rage
Well its time for taks benchmarks and taks are right around the corner. The benchmarks are a tool to access who the potential "retards" are so that administration can start monitoring their progress. This gives them the opportunity to monitor their progress so they get to move low performers into special education. When the child is moved to special ed., he/she can no longer effect the schools taks average. The students who do well get beaten down with the same "COUNTDOWN TO TAKS "worksheets everday, robbing students of enrichment and cutural programs.
I am getting sick of hearing from both administrators, teachers and parents that say "they hate the taks". Adminstrators say "It comes from the State, and there isnt anything we can do about it".
Just in case all of you lazy people forgot, WE DO HAVE CONTROL. Time and time again, we continue to let the government tell us what, when, where and how to do something. The last time I checked, this is not Nazi Germany or Red China.
Since, our politicians dont want to listen to our complaints on the education system, I would be curious to see what effect it would have on them if we refused to send our kids to school on taks days. When high stakes tests are used to evaluate the performance of teachers or more importantly, when schools can be awarded money for their performance, it does nothing but cause pressure on the teachers, which trickels down to the student. When the benchmarks scores are low, the "pucker" factor increases. Teachers start diagnosing students for adhd or possibly move them to special education? (special ed. studnets do not bring down the schools scores) They will do anything to be evaulated as a good administrator/teacher just to keep the appraisals high and cash flowing. Is this your idea of public education? Are you comfortable with your tax dollars going to this type of skam? Its time to tell the education Nazi's to F-OFF. Keep your kids at home on TAKS day!! What do you think?
Go to http://www.cppp.org/research.php?aid=1051 for a county-by-county analysis of how the teacher cuts will affect general employment. This is very depressing. Of all the problems we have, this is one that can't be blamed on Obama. Rick Perry and his followers created the situation we have in Texas and there is no way around that fact. We have a budget crisis because of the drastic reduction in the corporate tax when the franchise tax system was completely reworked several sessions ago. This cut is hitting schools the hardest because of the right-wing believe that public schools aren't worth funding. I am all for blaming Obama and the Dems for the problems they have created but this one falls on Perry and the Repubs. Folks need to remember that when they vote.
(Obama's White House even went so far as to -- tsk, tsk -- falsify reports to damage the American oil industry.)
It strikes me as funny that y'all can get upset at the placement of wording in a report to call it "falsified" in an attempt to dispute the science, yet you can ignore decades of climate change research.
And it's absolutely hilarious that you people can always argue "show me the proof" on anything you disagree with, while at the same time devoting your lives to a faith that is inherently unprovable.
It's just more of that intellectual dishonesty I've been talking about.
Rage
By the way, I am a lawyer living several counties away. I had a case pending in Wise County and started doing some computer research on the parties, court, potential jurors, etc. That's how I ended up reading this blog. Now it wastes more time than I imagined possible.
Yes, but the unemployment rate would be EVEN LOWER if we had a president who was out promoting the concept of free-market, limited government policies.....instead of one who is aggressively working against them.
Barry, I think you have too simplistic a view of how the economy works. Everything is cyclical. Can you articulate how Obama's policies have resulted in this decrease?
And PLEASE don't say the stimulus.....because the stimulus was nothing but a boondoggle for Obama's political special interests!
According to Gallup, national unemployment stands at 10.1% -- and that doesn't count all the folks who have been dropped from the rolls. The economy hasn't "turned around" and, baring a miracle, will not change anytime soon, certainly not in time to get Obama re-elected. If the big "O" gets re-elected, it'll be because greater powers wish it so.
Starving in Wise County
I agree with 9:02. I see people all the time in Decatur on facebook or talking about being on it. I think you'd be amazed at how many folks of all ages around here get on it.
As for the dead preacher in arlington, speculation is that he was beaten for doing his secretary. Since she was beaten also, was probably a crime of passion by her hubbie for infidelity.
That girls looks good.
I give her a rating of 3out of 5 on the bacon scale.
How ironic of GOD to send someone in to murder the pastor and beat the hell out of the pastor's assistant at the Northpointe Baptist Church in Arlington.
It was the pastors time to go as all Christians believe.
Let's all praise GOD for this.
So that's what an outty looks like.
Why would the beating of a pastor rock your faith? To live is Christ to die is gain...Philippians 1:21
I'm moving to Somolia and becoming a Pirate with Cartman. Arrrgggh
After all the crap you hear about Obama - even if only 20% of it is true - you would still vote for him???
Come on. Even Major Liberal Matt Damon thinks he is worthless!
9:40, how stupid!
"Unemployment dipped to 8.9% this morning. Let me say it again: If the economy turns around, and by all signs it is, Obama is a shoe-in for re-election."
Do you remember the last election? Dems got "teabagged"!!!!!!
To Rage,
"It strikes me as funny that y'all can get upset at the placement of wording in a report to call it "falsified" in an attempt to dispute the science, yet you can ignore decades of climate change research."
What a short memory you have, that so called science has been proven to be a hoax. Remember the leaked emails? If I may remind you, science is not concensus, science either is or isn't, we don't need to get our undies in a bunch over
6 tenths of a degree change in the average global temp. And finally, yes we can (and should) ignore decades of false climate research.
We can only hope and pray that Obama is NOT RE-ELECTED.
Rage, you gave the very definition of faith...it is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. And 9:40, God had nothing to do with that, really? You do not know anything about the Christian faith, we do not all believe that regardless of how someone dies, well, it was their time to go! That's ludicrous...it's part of living in this sinful world with other human beings God created with a free will. Bad things happen to good people...it's called life. That was a terrible tragedy, blame the person that did it, not God.
9:34, are you from South Oak Cliff?
3 days in a row with saggy-boobie random girls.
hey 9:06- Not sure what school your kids go to but Benchamarks are not used to determine special education status. We use benchmarks to see what standards our classes are succesfull on and what standards us as teachers need to focus on for the them to perform well on TAKS. Special Education status is determined by a number of things and it doesnt just happen because they don't do well or because 1 teacher refers them to the special ed department. Not how it works! Also if you havent noticed, the state is requiring more special education students to take the test or at least a modified version of the test. I dont know where you got your information... but it's false.
949 - While I agree with your sentiment, I have to respectfully disagree with your conclusion. Matt Damon and the other Hollywood Liberals are mad at Obama for not being Liberal enough to suit them. But given a choice between him and a Conservative Republican, who do you think they'll vote for? The only way I think your conclusion could happen is if he is challenged by Hillary Clinton in the primaries.
9:40 I agree with 10:01, you are very ignorant. God is good and the devil is evil. God didn't send that someone to kill that preacher and it wasn't his time to go. Also, God doesn't need anymore angels. When we die we don't become an angel. Nowhere in the bible does it ever say that we will become an angel when we die. It does say that we will have 7 score of years...that is 70 years. Anything less than that is not God's best for our lives.
Facebook biggest time waster since computer solitaire and jerking off.
$ 5.00 gas, Obama defeat
9% Unemployment, Obama defeat
Hillery runs, Obama defeat
People wake the hell up, Obama defeat
NUGENT / NORRIS 2012
The trees with the blooms on them are Bradford Pears. Go to Tulsa OK in about a month. They are everywhere and bloom with such intensity! Really, really pretty.
We had a debate about the demise of boxing a while back. I attributed it to the rise of UFC. There's no reason to watch boxing when a better product is more readily available. Follow the money...that always explains everything.
TAKS is more evil than Ricky Lee Green!
People who watch UFC and wear Affliction shirts are tards.
10:17 adn 10:46 Glad you are such experts and know the will of God. What a couple of idiots you both are. Guy got offed because he was banging another guy's wife. Pretty simple, not spiritual.
Christians believe when someone dies it is their time to go.
Has all the stimulus billions of dollars that was thrown down a rat hole to create green jobs to decrease our dependence on foreign oil payed off?
I can't afford to go to Tulsa to see the Bradford Pears because Obammy has jacked up the price of gasoline.
Maaat Daaaaamon is associated with the Film Actors Guild better known as being a FAG.
11:32
With respect, you sir (or mam) are mistaken. Nothing in the Word speaks to that.
If God's ultimate plan is to swallow up death forever (Isaiah 25:8), then how can he will death, even a spiritual death?
10:46 - This is crazy. To try and label, understand, apply meaning, personify, talk of angels, etc. is absolutely crazy.
The fact of the matter is that one person beat another person to death. This has nothing to do with God, Jesus, Mohammed, Odin, Zues or any other deity. No out-of-this world being granted "free-will". The longer that we continue to semantically justify our beliefs and attempt to classify our behavior with regards to things we should never attempt to understand, the longer we will suffer.
These insane thoughts create grief, misunderstanding, self-doubt, angst, and many other negative thoughts and actions. One can only hope that eventually these archaic beliefs and trends will phase themselves out of our behavior.
The Bible...sheesh. Thank God they recently removed those difficult words. If we keep cutting education and dumbing down the masses, we will have pastors, bishops, and priests reading and interpreting the Bible for us as they did in the 13th century.
This is absolutely crazy.
FYI...Arlington pastor was 29yrs old and the critically injured assistant is 60+yrs old. I would bet, dollars to doughnuts, he was not "banging" his assistant.
10:46, a "score" (pertaining to an amount) is not 10, but is 20. Therefore 7 score is not 70, but is 140. :-)
Let me take a moment to be ingnorant...how do I get a "name" as compared to "anonymous"?
Let me know when they start a auto recall for snakes in car. Like Samuel L. Jackson, I am tired of m-f (make up your own acronym) snakes.
My Other Brother Darryl
To anonymous 12:59...
The simplest way is to acquire an account at "gmail.com" and sign in using that account when you "choose an identity" when leaving a comment on The Blog. You can pick whichever name you want to be displayed on the gmail account when you set the "settings" of your gmail account. However, you can also have a blogger identity if after you acquire a gmail account you sign up for a free blog account.
So is anyone praying yet?
Pollen season.
11:22 why must you resort to name calling? If you disagree, disagree...and leave it at that, sheesh!
12:26, I agree with you, in part. Some things we will never understand, and trying to explain them is futile at best. But please explain your last point to me, it looks like you don't believe the Bible, which is totally within your rights but that people who do are dumb, but in the same paragraph, you thank God...
TAKS is only a threat to parents who allow their kids too much time playing sports, cheerleading texting, cruising, etc.
Be a parent
12:19 then why is it that's what Christians say when someone passes?
1:31 - Thanking God was simply used as a colloquialism. But, I get your point and I cannot say that I am an atheist.
I was not trying to suggest earlier, that people who believe the Bible are dumb. I do think that believing the Bible, without any historical context or even any knowledge about the history of the Bible causes problems. Moreover, the Bible is a man-made document that 2000 years later has been taken to be the "word" of God - as in literally given to man by God. This is absurd.
I am not trying to suggest that there are not valuable parables or lessons that can be taken from the Bible, simply that the idea that the creator of the universe(s) would write down petty rules and regulations regarding day-to-day life and distribute these rules via "revelation" to fisherman is silly.
A brief anecdote regarding lack knowledge:
I was reading Thomas Paine's "The Age of Reason" and thought that a few of my Christian buddies would fined it interesting as they are always asking me questions about what I believe. I forwarded it on and told them I thought it was a great summary of some of my thoughts. It is respectful, concise and well worded. They responded by asking who Thomas Paine is and is he akin to Richard Dawkins.
I replied that this is the problem. Who is Thomas Paine? I can tell you now...I wept. Not really but you get the picture. More rambling when I should be working.
1:31, thank you for your response, now I understand. But I respectfully disagree with you about the Bible...I, too, believe it is the infallible word of God...God breathed and physically written down by the men He chose. And I do, though not as well as someone who has studied it much more than I, know the history behind it. The Bible itself says the world may pass away, but His word will never pass away. Have you ever read it...the OLD and the NEW testaments?
Again, thanks for your response and you may have to cry again because I do not know who Thomas Paine is, either. But I will certainly look him up!
2nd Amendment goes something like this: the right to bear arms shall not be infringed. Yet to acquire a handgun license we in Texas are required to pay for and complete a handgun proficiency course, and then send money and an application into Austin and hope they decide it's okay to issue a license to the applicant.
The point being, most pro abortion folks have no problem with that, even though it is an actual right by definition. There are no references to abortion in The Bill of Rights or The constitution (so matters of abortion should be left up to individual states) and yet pro abort folks are upset about the sonogram bill.
Please explain this logic to me.
True dat, Wordkyle.
9:49
2:15 - I have actually read a good portion of both the old and new testaments. I was raised in a very pleasant Christian family. I personally think life would be much easier if I could just believe in the whole thing and fit in a bit better. Unfortunately, after a several years of study at the local university (in the search of God), I determined that I had it wrong. I will not claim to have read the WHOLE Bible, but I know few who have. I believe my grandmother at one time read the whole Bible, one of those read a bit each day and have it done at the end of the year. I took the same approach to Mischner's "Texas" (and yes I know to underline books, but I can figure out how to do it on here).
Remember, we can't say that the Bible is the word of God because the Bible says it is. That is similar to someone claiming that XYZ automobiles are the best because it says so on their website.
I have no intentions of attempting to dissuade someone from their beliefs. My comments were simply on the legitimacy of the Bible. I support those who are happy and embrace their happiness. I just hate to see people pushing it to the point of violence, and on the macro level - war.
To Secret Police @ 2:16...
I am not pro-abortion, I am pro-choice, thus, I believe the The Second Amendment does indeed grant the right to ALL US citizens to bear arms and provides a lifelong license/right. However, each state should retain the legal means by which to strip that right from anyone who proves to be a danger to society.
I am a Libertarian/Constitutionalist, not a liberal.
Thomas Paine is one of the Founding athers of the United States.
MzChief:
I know this has no real bearing and I actually like your moxy. I asked this about a year ago and got no reply, but are you what people might call attractive? I am just dying to put a face to your comments.
I mean no disrepect, just curious. Please don't take it wrong.
Guns in the context of a militia!!!!! Regardless of what the activist Wingnut Court says.
Wonder if ole Thomas has paid back that 700K he forgot to declare! Think about it, he claims he couln't understand the line that reads "income."
I believe the Bible can be fully understood while led by the Holy Spirit!
However, I also understand the incredible trouble people have believing based on the actions of way too many so called believers.
So I just keep studying and reading and working very hard not to be one in the previous paragraph.
To MZ
But there are alot of folks that only see it one way, I am sure you got my point that some are griping about the sonogram bill while law abiding citizens have to jump through hoops to carry a firearm, something which is most certainly protected by The Bill of Rights while ending a human life is not. One could ask when is it too late to abort? 1 month or 30 years?
3:13 I think I love you. Great points! To accept a work as the final and complete word of god just because it says so is akin to accepting that I am Santa Claus just because i write it down somewhere.
9:27 Boy, are you wrong. the pastor killed in Arlington is 29 and the assistant pastor is 67. Don't think they would be having an affair. It was probably one of the low life they tried to help.
Have to be very careful in that line of work, even when it is in the Lord's name.
11:07 I love your comment. You must be a teacher!! Anything new on the Crappy job the DISD school board is doing? Roll back election re-call election anything??
Random Pic is the 1st 10 in a long time sir.
413 - I think you've tried this before. Wikipedia, in this case, has a good section on the Second Amendment and how it applies to the individual, not just in a "militia context."
Among other sources cited are Blackstone (1765-"the right of the subject..is that of having arms for their defence") and the English Bill of Rights (1689) which spelled out the rights of citizens not to be disarmed by the King. This definition was confirmed by the Supreme Court in District of Columbia v Heller ( "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" referred to it as a pre-existing right of individuals to possess and carry personal weapons for self-defense and intrinsically for defense against tyranny.")
4:17 Well said and very true!
12:59
Rather than creating an account on gmail, as Mzchief suggested, just scroll down a bit from the comment window and select "Name/URL" instead of "Anonymous". It will then let you put in any name you want.
But there are alot of folks that only see it one way,
Like you? You believe in the 2nd, but not the right to choose.
But the same court that said owning a gun is a personal liberty also said that a woman has the right to choose. You can't have it both ways.
Second Amendment and how it applies to the individual, not just in a "militia context."
First of all, using Wikipedia just means you;re in over your head. Second, the right was only expanded outside the militia context and declared a personal liberty very recently. The second amendment was the last of the bill of rights to be incorporated against the states through the 14th amendment (I'm not going to bother explaining all that to you, go to law school if you want to get a clue). So until this year, it was limited to militias, and a militia is clearly defined in the C.F.R.
But, just like any other right, this right can be regulated. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater, you can be required to get a permit before peacably assembling or speaking n public, the exceptions to the rights regarding criminal defendants (fair trial, counsel, self-incrimination...) have so many exceptions they virtually swallow the rules. So while the D.C. and Chicago laws that outright banned guns were invalid, a state can limit who owns them and many other things about ownership such as they types of weapons owned (try buying a depleted uranium shell sometime, or a fully automatic without a certain license).
As for the chucklehead above who thinks the right to choose isn't in the constitution, I urge you to read the 9th amendment. The list of rights is not all-inclusive, and our rights ARE NOT given to us by the government. They are ours because we are human beings. The constitution limits the government, it does not limit individuals. The founders never intended to include every right, and knew they could not.
Rage
If the economy turns around? In the infamous words of Dan Rather, "If frogs had pockets they would carry firearms".
Anyone can trace the right of the individual to keep and bear arms for individual protection back to (at least) the English Bill of Rights and reinforced by Blackstone, both of which predate and are sources for the inclusion of the Second Amendment in the Bill of Rights. See the Wikipedia page above for quick links to those sources, and more. No law school required.
Back then, there was no standing army and militia was much less specific.
Law school required.
Rage
Ah, yes, the often-vaunted and always-taunted time you spent pursuing higher education. Kind of like Wile E. Coyote chasing the Roadrunner, wasn't it?
Still no answer wordkyle? Keeping your mouth shut would have been the better choice here, don't you think?
I also left out the fact that the US Constitution keeps the US government from doing things, while states can, and often do, have more restrictions than the federal government does because state constitutions permit it. Therefore, until SCOTUS declared it a personal right (just like they have for abortion), it did only apply to militias, regardless of whatever user-entered information you find on the internet. I bet you altered that one yourself.
Thus endeth the lesson. Assuming you're smart enough to keep your trap shut.
Rage
You're justifying everyone's opinion of you again. The Supreme Court decision I cited at 6:42 above confirmed that an individual keeping a weapon for self protection (and defense against tyranny) is a pre-existing right protected by the Second Amendment. Keep on chasin' that Roadrunner, Wile E.
Watching WordKyle beat down Rage is almost as much fun as watching MZ kick Rage's ass. Watching Rage sputter is always good for a few laughs.
"If the economy turns around...."
If elephants had wings they could fly and if libs had balls they would be Republicans!
8:48 am
Good riddance.
Jesus wordkyle, I've already said they held that it was protected. But it was not always so.
Read what people say before you respond to something you wish they had said. Also, it helps if you don't chime in on subjects you don't understand. I realize that that would substantially limit the number of your posts, but that's a good rule to live by in general. Please do us all a favor and live by it.
Rage
I am pretty sure most teachers and administrators only hate TAKS because they are afraid of being held accountable for anything. The teachers who kick and scream the loudest are typically the ones who suck the worst at preparing kids for the test.
I am a teacher, btw.
As for the brilliant idea to keep kids at home on TAKS day, just be prepared for your school to be labeled academically unacceptable by the state, which will result in new people avoiding the area like the plague and the economy to recover even slower.
Even a blind coyote occasionally finds a bone. I do indeed tend to skim a troll's posts. However, it's good to point out the historical philosophy (or "precedents") -- e.g., Blackstone, the English Bill of Rights -- which influenced the Framers when they wrote the Second Amendment.
It's also interesting to mention the relativity of the word "recent." For example, the Supreme Court's hostility to religion only dates back to 1947, 160 years after the Constitution was written. (Prior to then, the SCOTUS embraced religion in government.) Likewise, the Second Amendment survived as an individual right for at least 150 years before the modern string of "militia" references gained ground. (And add another hundred years or more to that before the English common law concepts were exported to America.)
Beep beep.
326 Do you think that people think our schools are great?...Sounds like somebody passed you an ice cold glass of cherry kool-aid in the teachers loung!
Wordkyle, your mistakes are too numerous to mention. Congratulations on packing so much ignorance into one little post.
Rage
Well, then I certainly have been had. The English Bill of Rights, William Blackstone, and historical precedent for the individual's right to be armed (with no mention of militias) must have never existed. I'll be darned.
Rage, what law school did you attend? Did you pass? What was your GPA? I am only asking beacuse some of the readers here might not want to enroll at the same school.
Thanks
To The Secret Police...
Thank you for asking those questions. I have, frequently, pondered the answers to the very questions you have asked. I have also wondered if Rage has EVER been employed, in ANY capacity, within the legal field
wordkyle, if you think that that sort of history (which is different than precedent, by the way) is important in 2nd amendment jurisprudence (look it up), then certainly you would agree that the same is true of the separation of church and state? Because Jefferson was quite clear that it was his intent to have them absolutely separated, yet Republicans fight tooth and nail against it and say "that ain't in the constitution."
Seriously, I'm getting tired of handing your ass to you. It's even funnier that you and your moronic followers think that somehow you're right.
Rage.
Rage, look it up. Separation of church and state ISN'T in the Constitution. Try again dude, it's funny.
Well, if you consider that the Constitution was not created out of thin air, but was based on what the Framers considered the best of English common law, then the things I cited are indeed precedents - "any act, decision, or case that serves as a guide or justification for subsequent situations."
As for Jefferson's 1802 letter, his message was apparently this: "it was not the place of the Congress or the Executive to do anything that might be misconstrued as the establishment of religion." What might interest some people is the first part of the 1786 Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, which Jefferson wrote, and of which he was very proud: "Whereas, Almighty God hath created the mind free..." Invoking God in the text of his own legislation. Imagine that. Where's that "wall?"
I certainly understand your attitude about other people, seeing as how they are pointing out your deficiencies. Consistently. Maybe you need more degrees, I've heard that helps.
Separation of church and state ISN'T in the Constitution.
That's my point! And so by that logic, guns can only be owned by militiamen, right?
NO! Because the Constitution is more than just the written document.
Seriously, you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.
Rage
You have yet to correct me on a thing. All I see is you justifying what you call "precedent" for the second amendment, but no "precedent" for things you disagree with.
You don't even know why you're wrong, and you don't have a basic understanding of the Constitution so that I can even begin to show you. You should have kept your mouth shut yesterday, like I told you.
Rage
Sometimes trolls, like coyotes, can be cute. Especially when they act all mad and stuff. It looks like this.
Barry Green! Are you RAGE?
Rage,
You exhaust me. Where do you come down on these issues. You seem to be all over the place with your "explainations".
Help!!!
LEL
wordkyle, give it up. You've been schooled pretty hard today, and I agree with Rage, you don't even know why.
Oh, I don't know, I feel like a winner. Let's look at what I accomplished:
Among other things,
* I disputed that the Second Amendment only applies to militias.
* I provided historical context for the individual's right to bear arms for self defense.
* I provided the most current Supreme Court's decision which asserts that same point and thus validates my initial opinion.
Most of these come with links so that the interested reader can follow up and form his own opinion. That's a pretty good day's work.
To wordkyle...
Excellent work at pwning Rage. Based on Rage's lack of links to validate his position, Rage would not recognize a cogent argument if it, like yours, came with documentation and written in a language easily understood by EVERYONE.
I doubt Rage ever attended college as pre-law much less attended law school. I have never met a lawyer who believes someone has to have attended law school to comprehend a legal issue.
Do you notice that Rage claims to have attended law school but never mentions he graduated. There is a VAST difference between having attended and having graduated. Just ask all the L1s who have washed out.
"No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." (Thomas Jefferson, Proposal Virginia Constitution, 1 T. Jefferson Papers, 334,[C.J.Boyd, Ed., 1950])
"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves...and include all men capable of bearing arms." (Richard Henry Lee, Additional Letters from the Federal Farmer (1788) at 169)
"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty.... Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins." (Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, spoken during floor debate over the Second Amendment [ I Annals of Congress at 750 {August 17, 1789}])
"The Constitution shall never be construed....to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms" (Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87)
"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms, and be taught alike especially when young, how to use them." (Richard Henry Lee, 1788, Initiator of the Declaration of Independence, and member of the first Senate, which passed the Bill of Rights, Walter Bennett, ed., Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republican, at 21,22,124 (Univ. of Alabama Press,1975)..)
"The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full possession of them." (Zachariah Johnson, 3 Elliot, Debates at 646)
Rage, there are page after page of these quotes from the framers, from The Ferderalist Papers and other sources, not Wikipedia. You said that it has not always been so, but it is obvious that they intended to enumerate and preserve the right to bear arms for all "able" individuals from the get-go.
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