11.18.2005

In Never Said Republicans Were Stupid

A funny day in Congress. The Democrats in the House proposed a resolution that the U.S. remove troops from Iraq "at the earliest practicable date." The Republicans came up with an interesting plan. They proposed an alternative amendment, that required a vote, that read: "It is the sense of the House of Representatives that the deployment of United States forces in Iraq be terminated immediately." Say what? The point was that the Republicans wanted to force the Democrats to vote on the alternative. Most of the Dems, of course, couldn't support such a drastic measure. Kind of a "put up or shut up" proposal. Genius.

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

Obviously the Democrats were sincere in wanting an "earliest possible" withdrawal. The Republicans just want to continue to play games - games where real people keep turning up dead. Tell me again, which position displays genius?

Anonymous said...

....Democrats sincere? How funny, since most of them went along with this war initially. And this "game" started without an official declaration of war. Lots of folks never really understood that one!

...and we can't bring all of our kids home after going in there and tearing up their country.

...what we need in this country isn't so much "genius" as just "common sense"....

.....ah, but we got Saddam!....let's see, in a few years we can rush to the bookstore to purchase, "I finished my daddy's War" - by George W. Bush.

Anonymous said...

The culture of corruption introduced a counterfeit bill. Genius or business as usual?

Anonymous said...

Obviously, that was an excellent move. The disappointing thing is many of us have not realized that this war will never end. We may fight it on other's soil, or our own. I will forever favor those who would like to continue it on the opponents soil. Freedom as we know it (and take it for granted) will continue to be expensive.

Anonymous said...

8:09 - interesting points about corruption.

So who is the most corrupt - the office holders or we the voters?

Anonymous said...

Let me attempt to remind folks with short or very selective memories: the resolution passed in congress was to authorize the president to use military force IF other means failed. There WAS NOT a declaration of war! Bush's bunch had already decided they were going to war but needed congressional cover. They did not have sufficient cause to invade but by selectively releasing one-sided intelligence got the congress and public to go along. Now the truth is becoming clearer - we were duped into this mess and are having a heck of a time finding a way out. Meanwhile a few brave soldiers die each day and many more are permanently disabled. A real shame.

Anonymous said...

.....yes 11:16 it is a real shame.

And another shame is how many in the Christian community backed Bush to bring morality back to this nation. Some preachers have actually told their congregations that the Republican Party is the group closest to what God would have his people be...

.....really?

Anonymous said...

They should have voted to pull out immediately. In 5 months or 5 years the circumstances will still be the same --Iraq will never be stable--

natasha8boris said...

How quickly we forget 911 and there were more Americans killed than at Pearl Harbor. Where are the children of that generation who helped maintain freedom and democracy? Cowards run away but Marines never do.

Anonymous said...

You have been brainwashed by the Bush Administration. 9/11 and Iraq have nothing to do with one another.

Anonymous said...

...10:00 - I agree about the brainwashing. David Domke wrote an interesting book entitled "God Willing" - the book goes into great detail of how the Bush administration used the terrorism fears of Americans and tied it into religious conservatism.

The press ran with this ball and it all capitalized on America's fears.

It's a good read whether we believe it or not and reveals the need for Americans to continue their search for the truth.

Anonymous said...

8boris, Ex-Marine Congressman Mertha has said that this Iraq war was so botched that its time to get out of there. Remember, he was actually a Marine who severed in combat in Viet Nam - dot one of the pseudo military experts whose only military experience is in getting draft deferments.

And as 10:00 said - no one has shown that Iraq had ANYTHING to do with 9/11. Osama bin Laden organized that effort and 4 years and zillions of $ later - we still don't have him (not that the terrorism will end when we do get him).

natasha8boris said...

The proof is in the pudding. You have not been listening. Wait and see when it is all over, if you are still here.

Anonymous said...

8boris, Not to belabor a point, but it is philosophically impossible to prove a negative. If you choose to believe that "the connection" will someday be proved or that WMD are still hidden somewhere - go ahead. It's futile to debate with the logically challenged.

Anonymous said...

a hard point to swallow is this bush lied to americans now they are dying and we will never forget 9-11 nor should we forget the lies from the oval office and the men and women who died fighiting a watr started on lies by the way if americans had stood up and fought back as some did on the one flight we might not of had 9-11 turn out the way it did

Anonymous said...

Bunch of armchair quarterbacks. Who cares? Kill 'em all, take their oil, and send the wife shopping.

Anonymous said...

Whether you support Bush or not isn't the issue. The fact is that our soldiers are there fighting. We can either pray and show our support for our troops, or sit here and point the finger and call blame. I, for one, will not dishonor the memory of our fallen soldiers or the surviving soldiers by throwing blame around. The fault behind this situation will not bring back our fallen soldiers, nor will it rectify anything.

Democrats and Republicans both have their faults and wrong doings. Both parties have their hands in this cookie jar, regardless of what's said on the issue.

Anonymous said...

Barry, when you gonna ask me to dinner?

natasha8boris said...

I don't suppose it matters a hill of beans to any of you that Sadam did have wmd and used them on thousands of his own people. Were you going to sit back and let it happen again and again? You would have loved Hitler too.

Anonymous said...

8boris - Yes, Saddam had WMD - but they had been eliminated between the Gulf War I and this invasion. Saddam was supposed to get rid of them and apparently he did. We didn't believe that so he had to prove he didn't have 'em (hard to do). The inspectors couldn't find evidence of WMD BECAUSE he no longer had any. We invaded because we didn't believe Saddam and the rest is ongoing history.

Bottom line: Saddam told the truth, we didn't believe him, we invaded and many US soldiers and Iraqis have paid the ultimate price. Don’t you feel just a little bad about this Iraqi thing? Where is the effort to get bin Laden - the guy actually responsible for 9/11?