The Campaign For DA

12.22.2015

I'm Now Skeptical Of Anything With "Elevate" In Its Title (Updated: I'm on a Rant!)

First, we have a Fort Worth company which charges the functional equivalent of 180% interest on loans to poor people (did I read that right?) and is still losing money:

And we have this guy in Frisco with the Elevate Life Church. That's his bit: Elevate your life:


You have to watch him on some Sunday morning. He's a horrible preacher. And he almost always mentions giving "money". And I'm stunned they do camera "far away" shots because the number of empty seats is amazing.

But, wait, there's more!

"Oops"

Good Grief! I Apologize For Calling Him Out!
(That's a photo from his younger days when he was doing a different bit.)

Wait. Joel Osteen Supports Him!
Did Craft Pay Him For This? The Commercial Is On Every Sunday 
When Osteen's Show Ends But Before Craft's Begins

And speaking of Osteen, I found the photo below. The Internet can trick you but this site  reported in 2010 that "Several months ago, the couple and their children moved to a 17,000-square-foot stone mansion in the Tall Timbers subdivision in River Oaks. The Osteens' new home is situated on 1.86 acres and surrounded by an ornamental fence. The 411: It has six bedrooms, six bathrooms, three elevators and five wood-burning fireplaces, with a one-bedroom guest house and pool house. The Harris County Appraisal District valued it at $10.5 million."  Some sites list the tax appraisal at $9.6 million.
According to the tax records, this is an aerial view (along with some of his neighbors.) He and Victoria are on the right.


Edit: I can't believe one of the comments who told me I'm wrong to call out Osteen because he receives no salary from the church. You kidding me? Yes, you're right. He doesn't. But the TV broadcast of his sermons advertises his books at the bottom of the screen as well as his "speaking tours". He uses the pulpit as an infomercial. That makes it even worse. Talk about money changers!

They are televangalists. The only thing different from 20 years ago (remember Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, Robert Tilton or -- my personal favorite -- Ernest Angley, etc.?) is that the televangelists are slicker now.  And people like you are getting scammed. They aren't preaching the Gospel. They are preaching self-help and therapy.

Edit: And the scary part is that large "establishment churches" are getting blurred in with televangelists because of nutty pastors. I can't believe this goofy guy below, the pastor of the First Baptist Church of Dallas, has time to take off time from appearances on Fox News to do the following. He takes a different approach from therapy and self help, he tries to be a Baptist Sean Hannity and focus on politics. And I'll bet money he will be promoting a book. Edit: I'm wrong. He is promoting a book and a 15 CD set:

Edit: I finally clicked on his link. Oh, my!!:

You click on that link and you see the following. And he also has something called "The $425,000 Gospel Truth Matching Challenge." He's trying to do what Osteen does. Why the the Board of Deacons has not fired that man is amazing:



Ladies and gentlemen, Idiocracy is approaching us at light speed.

Edit: In the original version I referred to Reverend Osteen at some points as "Olsteen". That was a stupid error on my part and has been corrected.

41 comments:

Anonymous said...

Any preacher living in a house like that is not a man of God. Anybody that follows and contributes to him is not a man of God, either. Jesus needs a new private jet?

DF Golden Calf

Baylor Too said...

I'm guessing you don't have many opportunities to utilize five fireplaces in Houston.

Anonymous said...

I am saving up to move from my Montrose shack to River Oaks.

Rage

DF Kenneth & Gloria Copeland said...

Oh yeah? Well he ain't got his own private air base. So there!

Anonymous said...

The humble servant giving of himself for the cause of our dear Lord Who had no place to lay His head.

Denney Crane said...

This is how a church keeps its rainmaker. I meant Pastor.

Anonymous said...

Like him or love him.... but because someone has lots of money doesn't make them wrong.

Billy Graham lives in a mansion on the side of a mountain in North Carolina.

It's not the money... it's the presentation.

Most believe any preacher should live a poor life or they are sinning.

HarveyLee said...

" If God will keep them humble, we will keep them poor," is a pretty good slogan.

Anonymous said...

You can like or not like anyone you choose for any reason, but at least be honest and do some homework.

From www.howmuchmoneytheymake.com and many other sites:

As senior pastor, Osteen draws no salary from the church, which has an annual budget of $70 million. Instead, he relies on income from his flourishing book sales the most recent of which is I Declare: 31 Promises to Speak Over Your Life. Much of the content for his best sellers come from sermons he has preached at Lakewood. His book sales and related material brings in a reported $55 million. Joel has received as much as $13 million as advances on some of his books.

Anonymous said...

Televangelists are like defense attorneys. They gladly accept your cash for promises they can't deliver.

Anonymous said...

Praise the Lord. Make checks payable to cash.

DF Elmer Gantry

Anonymous said...

Barry is a typical leftist. They won't fight big evil, so they fight small evil. You are a real hero Barry.

Anonymous said...

I remember growing up in Wise County as a kid, folks around town widely criticized televangelists and called them what they were. Hank Williams Jr even had a great lyric on it, "they say send your money to the lord but they give you their address"! Now people are just too stupid to see it I guess, even calling out these folks preying on the week is viewed as an indictment on Christianity.

I had a younger couple at church, who know I'm going through a tough time with a family situation, give me one of Osteen's books. I would have much rather just got a hug and had them donate the $20. I felt dirty carrying it out of church, but I didn't let it touch my bible though. Wake up Amurica!!!

Anonymous said...

Preachers who live in houses like that typically gloat about all the good they do and feel they deserve a mansion like that.

Its kind of like people who always gloat about 'rescuing' animals.

Who cares if you rescued an animal. We all know people who rescue animals just cant keep that to themselves and they just have to tell everybody all the good they have done.

Anonymous said...

You're a real hero Barry. This post took a lot of guts.

Anonymous said...

Has Barry ever criticized Isis?

Anonymous said...

I wonder how that bigot Jefferies from FBC Dallas does for himself as well?

1:44, So because Barry hasn't (I'm sure he has at some point) criticized isis, that makes him a supporter in your eyes?

Anonymous said...

I don't like them that much, but I see televangelists the same way I see professional athletes? Do they deserve that much? No. Do they have the right to make that much due to supply and demand? Yes. They both give you false hope of a better feeling to come and pretend that they actually care about you, all to get you to buy their product and put more money in their pocket. Do I hate it? Yes. But it's not illegal and, unlike the Christians, I'm not gonna sit in judgment.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure he tithes 10% of his gross...to his wife.

Anonymous said...

Matthew, Mark, Luke & John received how much??? from bible sales based on their sermons??????

Anonymous said...

Are you skeptical of Viagra?

Anonymous said...

Jealous much or just often?

Anonymous said...

To construct a negative opinion of another you've never met is simple;
To maintain that opinion after an honest conversation with that person is rarely so effortless.

Anonymous said...

That is the stupidest analogy I've ever read. Professional athletes are like the parishioners of these mega churches. They provide the money for the organization through their talent, they get some back, but at the cost of their bodies. Mega church parishioners provide the money through donation, they get something in return, but at the cost of their souls! The greedy ones are always at the top.

Anonymous said...

What is the parable about the rich man getting to heaven vs. the camel passing thru the eye of a needle?

Like, the camel has better odds or something?

Double Fake Matthew

Anonymous said...

you liberals are so stupid. You are so anxious to jump on stories like this without any facts and then just feed off of each other like a pack of mentally retarded hyenas.

This isn't even Osteen's house. Do a little research and you will see he lives in a very modest 3 bedroom home on the West side that is valued at under 300K.

Anonymous said...

First, I want to thank you for the edit. I'm honored that you feel the need to defend your opinion to me.
2nd, I certainly am not now nor have I ever been scammed by a televangelist.
3rd, I believe the correct spelling is Osteen.

But to put Mr. Osteen in the same category with the others you named, is dishonest at best. Since you spend an inordinate amount of time checking out the institutions you despise, conservative talk radio, conservative politicians, conservative Christian Pastors, etc., you certainly know that Mr. Osteen is not in that same category. You may not like it that he has money or lives in a nice home, but he has not, at least by my study of the man, come by the money by anything approaching dishonesty. You had a trauma somewhere along the way in your formative years that pushed you away from all the traditions that were in your every day life to that point. I'm not new to this blog by a long-shot. You are an interesting person to watch.

For the record. I don't go to Mr. Osteen's church. I have only watched 10 minutes, here and there over the years, of his programs. I do attend my local church every week and have since I was a child. My tithe and my benevolent giving is anonymous and through my church. God bless and Merry Christmas to you and all the regulars on my favorite daily blog.

Anonymous said...

Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind. 1 Peter 5:2

The New Testament church leaders did not preach for money. The modern preachers have corrupted the church.

Anonymous said...

4:03 - That may be too deep for this forum. I myself am completely confused. But I'm certain it's your superior intellect and my simple-mindedness that is the problem.

Anonymous said...

If you're defending Osteen or others like him you are also donating to them. It is the only plausible explanation.

Sam Brows said...

10:33 - Spot On!
11:22 - Foolish.

There is a wonderful book by James Emery White called RISE OF THE NONES, which goes into great detail about one of the most startling trends in America today, the willingness of individuals to respond to questionnaires delving into religious affiliation with the answer "NONE". In the 40s the percentage of Americans claiming no religious affiliation was a whopping 5.0%. In fifty years that followed, that number doubled. It doubled again in half that time so that by 2012, it was 19.9%. It is a disturbing trend that stretches across every single "Christian" denomination. And if you want to sit around and tell yourself and others that money-grabbing, mansion-owning ass-hats like Joel Osteen and his predecessor in money-changing, Jim Baker, don't have something to do with that slide, well then sir, I posit that you care more about your opinion than you do your religious beliefs. There are so many children that go to bed hungry, right here in America, that anyone who makes millions of bucks a year preaching (or hawking their wares via books, tapes and conventions reliant upon Believers and their wallets) ought to have some sort of cap that they voluntarily say, "enough's enough. I can't sleep at night knowing I pocketed this much...knowing I just paid for a 5th fireplace in Houston, Texas". And that cap, well, in my opinion, as an individual who claims deliverance from sin through the love of Jesus Christ, it ought to be somewhere well south of 20 million bucks.

No Sir, Barry is 100% right in calling the guy out in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

4:03----

Try again. That was pretty bad.

I have a hammer in my truck that's considerably more cogent than your comment.

Anonymous said...

Reverend has about as much a chance as gettin n heaven as green has of winning the DA race.

Now donate to the green campaign...we need your money to help serve justice in this great county.

DF Barry's campaign leader

Anonymous said...

5:14 Offer something in return then, let's here your hammer's argument. Rebut my analogy. You will immediately be destroyed, but please do elaborate.

Anonymous said...

You and John Oliver make this world a better place! Praise BE!!!!

Anonymous said...

And who is forced to give money to that church? Or buy his book? When you spend a couple thousand taking the family to Disneyworld for a fun vacation, that's all fake, too. And some big Disney executive is living in a place that probably makes a rich preacher's look like a dump. But...nobody made us go, and nobody is bitching about Disneyworld; you either choose to go or not. All the teed off people on here; if you stood outside with your hand out and people kept giving you hundred dollar bills, at what point do YOU say "to heck with it, I've got plenty"? You wouldn't.

Anonymous said...

We all freely choose to spend money that makes a relatively few people very, very rich. Actors, team owners, CEOs, and I guess even preachers. And so what are we complaining about? We take the money out of our pocket and give it to them.

Anonymous said...

8:31 But when you spend on entertainment you get something legitimate in return. If you want to make a preacher rich because he puts on a nice show, has fancy facilities and is on TV, that is fine, let's just call it what it is...entertainment. I just think that is a sick way to spend your money since it masquerades as something else.

Anonymous said...

12:49 - And you are apparently the arbiter of what is or isn't legitimate for people to spend their money on?

Anonymous said...

Olsteen is about as Christian as Slayer's new relentless video

Anonymous said...

12:59 No, I am fine with people spending their money on all sorts of dumb stuff, as long as those getting rich don't invoke God as a part of their tax exempt business model. And yes, the NFL needs to be taxed as well.

Religion is like cigarettes, it should come heavily taxed, regulated and with warning lables!!!