The Campaign For DA

12.10.2014

Random Wednesday Morning Thoughts



  • I'm hearing there was a talk-of-the-town basis for the firing of an administrative staff member of the Chico ISD yesterday. 
  • Big story on Fox 4 last night about a federal drug bust in connection with an "after hours" club.  I'm not real sure all of those kids deserve federal charges but what really got my attention is that it was all associated with  (1) an 18 and over club, (2) that opened at -- good grief --  3:00 a.m., (3) at what is a nude dancing establishment during other hours. 
  • And a weird connection: One of the kids indicted was the boyfriend of the girl who went missing from the Legacy Shops in Plano.
  • Prosecutors in the case of ex-JP accused of murdering Kaufman prosecutors made a big deal yesterday about the "arsenal" of weapons that he possessed. Does that have any impact? People in the Northeast are freaked out about guns, but I suspect some of my Wise County friends have their own "arsenal", and it doesn't bother me one iota.  (Well, maybe some of them with an arsenal bother me.)
  • They also presented evidence that he had googled the names of the special prosecutors in the pending case. Uh, who wouldn't? 
  • Yes, it creeps me out that the Sixteen Year Old In The House can drive but, man, does it have some advantages. 
  • "Don't you fall for that pouty face!" - Mrs. LL to me often once the Kids In The House try to persuade me.
  • I continue my rant about Medical Examiners. A Fort Worth cop was suspended yesterday for thirty days for a 2012 vehicle collision. According to the Star-Telegram, the ME "ruled [the other person's] death an accident caused by complications of multiple traumatic injuries." Wait a second. "Accident"?  Hey, the only thing a doctor can determine is that a body quit functioning because of a body part became injured or stopped functioning. How a vehicle collision occurs is out of his area of expertise. How does he know it was an "accident" (not a crime) or was the result of negligent or reckless conduct (which are crimes)?  (By the way, the cop, rightly or wrongly, was indicted on a manslaughter charge which means the prosecutors believe the officer engaged in reckless conduct. That's a "homicide", not an "accident", by definition.) 
  • The Ticket had a discussion today about the iconic song, "Do They Know It's Christmas?" Very awkward line sung by Bono in there: "Well, tonight thank God it's them instead of you." 
  • Man, I was right about all the Representatives trying to think of a zinger for a five second sound bite in yesterday's Jonathan Gruber hearing. The winner goes to the very unoriginal and embarrassing Darrell Issa of California: "Are you stupid?" 
  • The Senate's report on torture should embarrass all of us. 
  • Uh, oh. The Update misidentified one of the motorcycle groups involved in the Toy Run fight! It was the "Lost Riders" instead of the "Road Dogs".  If the Road Dogs show up for a confrontation in front of the Messenger like the ending scene in Wild Hogs, I'll be all over it. 


78 comments:

Katy Anders said...

Bono also had the worst mullet in the history of hair during the video to "Do They Know it's Christmas?"

It's the kind of mullet that makes you forgive ever having said anything bad about Billy Ray Cyrus' hair.

Anonymous said...

I think the problem with the arsenal is that it was in a storage locker. One that he had under a different name. Added to the fact that he also had body armor with the list of prosecutors is scary. He had all ready killed 3, so do you think more would have bothered him?

Anonymous said...

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that Katy wins the intertubes today before she even posts anything stupid.

Anonymous said...

"Well, tonight thank God it's them instead of you"

I remember hearing that when it came out when I was a kid and always game me a wonder look on my face....

now it is a big giggle....

Anonymous said...

It looks like the "accident" death occurred at a senior living center two and a half months after the collision. The manner of death may have been some accident that occurred there, but the ME said the ultimate cause was complications from the multiple traumatic injuries sustained in the collision.

Anonymous said...

The torture report was daming! Cheny is the root of all of it.
He was the real president for six years, before W finally asserted himself the last two.

We are America! We admit our mistakes and hopefully don't repeat them.

ISIS clothes its captives in orange jumpsuits to mimic how we clothes those in Cuba. Revenge is a wicked thing.

Anonymous said...

8:58 Isn't it weird that a certain someone goes out of their way to comment aka act dumb in regards the actual truth about that.

I guess we shouldn't be surprised though. He is a defense attorney. The truth is never brought up or thought about.

Anonymous said...

"The Senate's report on torture should embarrass all of us."

The next 9/11, every one of the Dems, as well as the general public, crying over torture, will be calling for every type of retribution.

Amazing how short the memory of some can be.

wordkyle said...

"The Senate's report on torture should embarrass all of us." - Uh, make that the Democrat Senate committee report. And before you get too worked up over it, remember that Democrats' recent history shows that they will misrepresent, mislead, and blatantly lie to Americans to achieve their political purposes.

While none of us wants ineffective interrogation or unnecessarily brutal treatment of prisoners, keep in mind that there are many who dispute the Democrats' conclusions.

wordkyle said...

913 - Remember that ISIS keeps the heads separate from the jumpsuits.

Anonymous said...

There are tens of thousands of Muslims prosecuting the goals and aspirations of Wahhabism today. This has been going on for longer than the US has been a country.

But now, rather than just using swords, they have much more powerful weapons.

So, everyone in this country needs to be committed to killing the terrorists, or resign themselves to having a poor future.

The only way to end this is to end it. Ask the lady in Ok that was beheaded. Oh, wait...

Anonymous said...

Bridgeport Bulls basketball beat another 5A and Decatur Eagles lose to a 3A. Can't wait for January 20th.

Mike Jordan

Anonymous said...

RTG - D-Lish-Us!

Anonymous said...

Re: Chico admin...let's assume facts not admitted into evidence, shall we?! The Super is an idiot, on his way out and will lose this big time if she challenges the firing. Question for Board us how much back pay they want to come up with and how much laundry they want aired out in the process

Anonymous said...

Man, I was right about all the Representatives trying to think of a zinger for a five second sound bite in yesterday's Jonathan Gruber hearing. The winner goes to the very unoriginal and embarrassing Darrell Issa of California: "Are you stupid?"

Sadly, shouldn't ALL Americans be appalled at this idiot Gruber and the 4 MILLION DOLLARS MIT was paid for his micro economic analysis and the complete corrupt sham that Obamacare is?

Ya the the torture thing is more important

Ernest T said...

I have to say it was great planning on the Democrats part to schedule the release of the torture report on the same day that Gruber is being questioned about Obama.

Anonymous said...

Did I hear that Bridgeport changed their motto:

IF you can't beat them, don't join them - Just Cheat!

I'd rather be in a program that wins and loses honestly, than what we have. Yes, WE!!! I am in the Bridgeport program and am embarrassed and saddened for the kids (mine included) that have spent years practicing for the opportunity to play HS basketball to lose opportunity because of cheating. We all know it's happened but no one wants to press it since it's our hope of winning - and that's what HS sports is only about nowadays - at least in Bridgeport.

Anonymous said...

10:08

OK, lets hear it! Who "cheated" and how?
If you're gonna make allegations, at least back them up?
If your so upset that your kid isn't getting the playing time that you think he deserves, then spill the beans
...
We are all waiting...

Anonymous said...

back pay??? had she been working for free? that makes zero sense. hooked on phonics a little hard for ya?

Sam Brows said...

Torture...the real reason we never should have had the first George Bush elected as President. He was the head of the CIA for a period and as far as general, worldly observations go, you just don't want the guy who was responsible for running the spy program co-mingled with the Executive Branch of the government.

We live in a fallen world, and for every person out there, Blogmiester, this includes you, who would offer blanket critique of the CIA for torturing captives, offer up an explanation for how, exactly we are supposed to protect the country from a group of zealots who are not specifically aligned with any one country, if we don't use some of the same tactics they use? Please offer me some rational alternative because I don't LIKE living in a world where torture is something we have to use, but I believe it is appropriate where individuals place themselves in the field of battle without government sanction. So please, offer me up an alternative. Blame the CIA, strip it of power and authority, blow it up (i.e., start from scratch, not literally blow up a building, o.k.?) and make every person ever employed there ineligible for any future employment with the government if you want to, but for Heaven's sake, offer up an alternative for protecting our country from foreign threats that aren't tied to any specific country when you do (and no fair simply saying that there's no proof that the tactics used generated any legitimate intelligence, because, as has been pointed out, the report that makes that allegation is a partisan and potentially biased report that is disputed by many).

Anonymous said...

10:08 is from Decatur. Don't be fooled.

DF Perry Mason

Anonymous said...

It's all about the politics for the liberal loons. Run the country into the ditch just so we can make the other side look bad. Truth is like kryptonite to the L Loons. Truth? We don't need no stinkin truth. Just make the other side look bad.

Anonymous said...

It's hypocritical of our leadership to suddenly be condemning waterboarding captive terrorists but will not think twice to order a drone strike to annihilate a terrorist and all those in the vicinity of that terrorist including woman and children.

Anonymous said...

Idiot...back pay will came for the time she's not getting paid WHEN she's reinstated

Anonymous said...

The ex JP could not legally own any guns.

Anonymous said...

9:27 wears his old Letterman jacket to the high school games unless he comes straight from work to the game. If he comes straight from work he wears his Wal-Mart vest.

Anonymous said...

Word Kyle wouldn't believe it if a Democrat said today was Wednesday.

The Republicans on the committee don't have much dispute with the findings -- the debate is over releasing the information. So the party that claims to be for smaller, less government is arguing for bigger, more private government.

Go figure.

Anonymous said...

Sam, I agree with you about having a president that was head of the CIA. I also think there ought to be a law that no commmunity organizer should be president either. Especially one that has no work experience, no voting record as a state senator or US senator, a fake SS# from Connecticut, and has a Chicago slum lord from Iran as his chief advisor, and will not release any of his college transcripts.

wordkyle said...

1152 - You're absolutely right in my disinclination to believe Democrats. They've proven they can't be believed.

Along those lines, your claim about Republicans on the committee is refuted by the 160+ page rebuttal they released.

Now, the question is whether in making your claim you were extraordinarily ignorant in saying something so easily disproved, or were you lying for your own purposes, in hopes that the rest of the world would be that ignorant?

Sam Brows said...

12:08 PREACH!

Anonymous said...

11.52 could it be that loony libs like yourself are known for stretching the truth? You know like you can keep your doctor or maybe you can keep your plan or yes really the unemployment numbers are really that low or etc...... Etc..... Etc.... No Credibility at all

Anonymous said...

11:52 Here: The 160 pages do not rebut the findings of the use of torture - just the release of information both now and during the process to thwart (or not, in their view) the oversight process. The facts are that the torture occurred. I know most of you commenting on her think that torture is fine as long as it happens to them but this kind of conduct is wrong. Do onto others . . . Two wrongs don't make a right . . . etc.

Mr. Mike Honcho said...

Sorry 11:52... but when terrorists do bad things they lose the benefit of the golden rule. Thems the rules of the game they choose to play.

And that doesn't make our government bad guys because we play out the rest of the game with them.

If you're logic was true, we wouldn't let our armed forces ever kill others. But we know there are times its necessary.

Anonymous said...

you would think the whinebags from decatur could at least hold off on the crying until they actually get their asses kicked before they start making excuses. such a pathetic group of losers over on the east side of the creek.

and if you are from the west side of the creek, STFU, and show some class

wordkyle said...

1152/122 - Section titles from the minority Republican report/rebuttal:

- "The Study's Flawed Process"
- "The Study's Problematic Analysis"
- "Erroneous Study Conclusions"

A bit more than simply disagreeing with the release of information.

Anonymous said...

Bono in there: "Well, tonight thank God it's them instead of you."

Religious satire is tricky. Skeptics will have see that line in a cynical way that they would use to show the hypocrisy of religion; believers (especially the prosperity gospel folks) will see it as something to truly be thankful for.

I have always thought that lines like that, when used by people who are smart enough to do it correctly, were intended to point out the disparity in the world in a way that made you think and take action, not really be thankful you're not poor.


who would offer blanket critique of the CIA for torturing captives, offer up an explanation for how, exactly we are supposed to protect the country


Did you even read the report? It said, among other things, that torture is generally unreliable, and its results were falsified by the CIA.

So, if you want to protect the country, and we all do, use techniques that work, not techniques, like torture, that don't.

Rage

Anonymous said...

By the way, this is one of my all-time favorite RTG's. No complaints about the repeat.

If I was driving I'd hit every choppy wave I could.

Anonymous said...

Stay classy Bridgeport. Oh wait...you never were

Anonymous said...

Medical Examiners.

When they are referring to the "accident", they are referring to the actual incident. The state refers to them as "Crashes" now, not accidents, but MEs are not necessarily up-to-date on the verbage for those incidents. Most citizens still refer them as "accidents." Symantics.

Secondly, almost half of the staff a the ME's Office are forensic pathologists, which distinctly seperates them from just a run-of-the-mill ME. In that function they can or are able to determine cause and manner of death, as well as the mechanism of death. I.E. Manner of death (for the purposes of their investigation)- could be accidental, cause of death - blunt force trauma to chest, etc, and mechanism of death was the actual "accident" or "crash."

Another example, a guy found hanging from the tree. Manner of death is probably suicide, cause of death is hypoxia (lack of oxygen to the brain) and mechanism of death is the hanging.

I guess our counselor just doesn't like people that are smarter than him. When they are, he just bad mouths them about things he doesn't understand.

Stay Classy

Anonymous said...

Sorry 11:52... but when terrorists do bad things they lose the benefit of the golden rule. Thems the rules of the game they choose to play.

What about the ones we detained and tortured, but have yet to charge because we have nothing to change them with, yet refuse to release?

The problem with not playing by rules, is that you have nothing by which to restrain your government. And if they can do it to "them," they can do it to "us." In fact, the Patriot Act does just that--it allows American citizens to be detained without lawyers, charges, or trials, or to confront their accusers even if they get a trial. If all that sounds familiar, it's because those abuses were a leading cause of our revolution and they found their way into the Bill of Rights as very specific protections based on those very specific abuses--abuses that we are now repeating.

And that doesn't make our government bad guys because we play out the rest of the game with them.

Yeah, it kind of does. Not the only bad guys, but bad guys. We're supposed to be better than them, right?

If you're logic was true, we wouldn't let our armed forces ever kill others. But we know there are times its necessary.

None of what I have said should be taken as a defense of 11:52's political stances, because both parties are responsible for these abuses, but depending on how far you are willing to take your faith, we're not supposed to let our military kill people.

And even if we were because sometimes it's necessary, who says when it's necessary? Was it necessary in Vietnam or Korea? What did we care about the Kaiser taking over Europe in WWI? In fact, or experience tells us that a strong leader is often better for Europe and the Middle East than the anarchy that follows when that leader is removed... WWI gave rise to Hitler; our policies in Iraq and Afghanistan gave rise to stronger Taliban, Al Quaeda, and ISIS forces... so an argument can be made that intervention is worse than non-intervention...).

Anyway, when you insert moral arguments into politics and warfare, you get a very uncomfortable situation that should make us all a little uncomfortable. When you stop thinking that humans are human, you stop being one yourself.

Rage

Anonymous said...

Sorry 11:52... but when terrorists do bad things they lose the benefit of the golden rule. Thems the rules of the game they choose to play. - Mike Honcho

Wow, I remember when America was the good guys because we were on the moral high ground. According to Mike, we've left our post and sunk into the swamp with the rest of the riff-raff. This is not a great day for America.

Anonymous said...

9:57 I want to hear all the dirty laundry about the Chico ISD. I hear it would be a story for the ages.

Anonymous said...

I guess our counselor just doesn't like people that are smarter than him.

So I guess he likes you, 2:30.

Anonymous said...

Bridgeport gets transfers, wins a few games and has determined they are the team to beat in 4A. They might want to slow down a little

Anonymous said...

I wish someone would give Wordbile a hummus enema.

wordkyle said...

316- The "moral high ground" does not include suicide. Ineffective tactics and strategies prolong battle and increase casualties. When accepted and traditional notions of warfare become outdated, strategists must adapt to the current situation to win the war as quickly as possible. Purposely choosing an ineffective plan that prolongs battle, to suit some vague notion of "fairness" to the enemy, is the cruelest move of all.

wordkyle said...

458 - What an odd thing to say.

Anonymous said...

Release of Dem Senate committee torture docs simply a ruse to change the subject from Obamacare and Gruber.

Liberal are nothing if not dishonest.

Any libs want to address Obama droning innocents? Go ahead, compare and contrast to shampooing terrorists hair.

Anonymous said...

Pretty sure Barry boy trying to represent the lady that got canned or something. No comments about it been allowed through all day.

Anonymous said...

Ya
Then those Rascals in Decatur Will ask us to increase taxes for buses when a couple of years ago they were telling us they had too much money in savings and needed to spend some money

Should have brought buses instead it appears

Someone. Is Asleep at the wheel!

Just sayimg

Anonymous said...

Please get real folks. Of course torture works. Every post 9\11 intelligence official has said it did.

Especially if you have them still in custody, and have the opportunity to check out their stories, then come back to do more, they will spill.

But whatever was done, it is less harsh than drone bombing picnics... or flying planes into buildings, or beheading people.

But the entire premise behind the current dustup is to fade the heat from Gruber, Obama, et al.

Go back ten years to look at something Bush did, when Obama is guilty as hell of so damn much? Just ludicrous.

Anonymous said...

Bridgeport basketball has been the laughing joke of their athletic department for as long as anyone on here can remember. Decatur wins with their own players and not some group of borrowed talent that moves in. Call it what you want, yea they wear Bridgeport on their jersey but they are not the Bridgeport that everyone knows. Also, did you know that Bridgeport lost to a lower classification team in Whitesboro??!!! Give me a freakin break! Wow you've really shown me something, that you can not only beat Whitesboro but you can't beat Whitesboro with borrowed talent!!! They should have moved to Decatur, everyone knows evrrything is a lil up to par over here on the east side! By the way? Has that butt whooping yall took over here in football healed yet? Ahh...I didnt think so. Enjoy what you have for these couple of years because we all know where you'll be back at when they're gone!

Anonymous said...

316- The "moral high ground" does not include suicide. Ineffective tactics and strategies prolong battle and increase casualties. When accepted and traditional notions of warfare become outdated, strategists must adapt to the current situation to win the war as quickly as possible. Purposely choosing an ineffective plan that prolongs battle, to suit some vague notion of "fairness" to the enemy, is the cruelest move of all.- wordkyle

Sen. John McCain disagrees with you. Please Wordkyle, tell us all how your perspective is wiser than a former POW (of an actual war, not a blog fight) and United States Senator. The good stuff kicks in around 1:10.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqA1gR06b-w

Mr. Mike Honcho said...

Rage, when people want to strap on a boom vest and kill innocents then yes, they lose the right to be treated with kid gloves. Because our first duty at that point is stop these things from happening. If torture is necessary to prevent vile people from doing vile things, then it is not "stooping" down to their level. It is just a necessity.

3:16pm, you don't lose the moral high ground by protecting innocent lives. And if torturing a terrorist accomplishes that then you haven't.

wordkyle said...

1028 - a) With what part of my statement does McCain disagree? b) I've expressed my opinions on John McCain previously. I don't know if my opinion is"wiser," but you'll have to show me where any of my statements that you quoted are inaccurate.

Anonymous said...

a) With what part of my statement does McCain disagree?

All of it.

b) I've expressed my opinions on John McCain previously. I don't know if my opinion is"wiser," but you'll have to show me where any of my statements that you quoted are inaccurate.

If you bothered to listen to his statement, you'd know. He lays it out plain, clear and non-partisan.

Quit being a troll.

wordkyle said...

1013 - Unsurprisingly, you responded without answering. Not really an indication that you know what you're talking about.

Anonymous said...

10:04
the same ass whooping that you give Bridgeport because your a bigger school is the the same ass whooping that you'll be getting from schools your size.
Enjoy Division 1 from here on out buddy!

Anonymous said...

Hmmm...maybe Bridgeport needs to play teams like Chico and Alvord. Because Boyd almost beat them and two schools ( Celina and Sweetwater) with much smaller enrollment numbers beat the heck out your beloved Bullies.

Anonymous said...

Celina and Sweetwater would stomp the shit out of your beloved Eagirls to there sweetheart!
We'll see which school goes further in the playoffs from here on out!

Anonymous said...

1013 - Unsurprisingly, you responded without answering. Not really an indication that you know what you're talking about.- wordkyle

LOL, typical. Refuse to answer and blame the person that nailed you on the subject. Your whole position that torture is "OK" is wrong and McCain spelled it out why. You're too obtuse to admit he's right. But then the Battle of Lubbock County was a hard war and you suffered mightily at the hands of the internet enemy. I can see why you like torture.

wordkyle said...

535 - Noooo, you tried to trot out McCain as your authority, but couldn't explain why. And again unsurprisingly, you've misinterpreted what I said. I posed two questions several hours ago, and you've contorted yourself to avoid having to answer them. They're not questions out of the blue, they're to give you a chance to prove you know what you're talking about. Sorry to put you on the spot.

Anonymous said...

Can you just admit that Decatur is better than Bridgeport in every sports category? And by the way, Graham thought they could be the crap out of Decatur and they squeaked by. Ill take Graham and Stephenville over Celina and Sweetwater anyday!!! I'll take losing to two top ten teams in consecutive weeks by a combined 8 points than getting absolutely embarrassed like Bridgeport did. Keep playing those lower classification teams and make your 7-3 or 8-2 seasons look like good ones, when we know all you'll do is get whooped by a real team in the first or second round. What is it...60-28 now Decatur in all time wins???? When it's that lopsided, it's hard to get the numbers right.

Anonymous said...

Couldn't explain why??? WTF Wordy? You have to be trolling because you can't be that stupid. It's wrong because it's torture and that's exactly what McCain says. Get it?

Anonymous said...

Where do we stop, Wordy? Do we start beheading prisoners in retaliation? Preaching from the rear pulpit again as usual. If you had ever served 1 day in actual combat instead of being scripted what to think it was like your attitude would be completely different.

Anonymous said...

if you live in decatur the best part about it is you know when youve made it home because you can smell the sewage from the state of the art shit plant you guys have.
its funny that you guys are crying like a bunch of titbags because yall got out recruited.

yallve been one and done in the football playoffs so many times teams like Abilene Wylie considered yall their homecoming bithches. you can piss and moan all you want about playing larger schools but hey yall were the largest school in the district for years.
and its certainly not like yall were asking to play up and bport was asking to play in a smaller classification.
so maybe you guys should be the ones to STFU and show some class
if you can locate it amidst the stink over there

Anonymous said...

10:43

hows them playoffs working for you???

wordkyle said...

244 & 815 - You represent some of the stupidest, most Darwin Award-worthy thinking that has ever existed. First, the notion that we won't ever make our enemies uncomfortable because "that's torture and that's wrong!" puts stupidity -- not morality -- above self preservation. If that's your view, then why put bullets in our guns?

Second, telling our enemies in advance that we won't be harsh with them emboldens them, feeds their own sense of superiority (because to them winning is the higher moral ground), and gives them resolve in refusing to answer questions when they are captured.

So where do we stop? Let's just all admit that you're willing to stop at a point that would allow bad people to do bad things to us, simply out of an arrogant and smug sense of moral superiority.

Anonymous said...

Two playoff wins in what.... ten years now? Yeah yall are a real power house let me tell you !
Couldn't win in the old classification and yall are for damn sure not going to win now!

Anonymous said...

Wordy will never get it. He's loyal to "Party" not Country and always will be. As said by others, if he ever served 1 day in the military he would understand why it (and he) are wrong. Typical Chickenhawk.

wordkyle said...

355 - Wrong on 5...no, 6 counts.

At this point you're just bleating things without any hope of actually being able to support what you bleat.

If you'd care to show the line of reasoning with which you arrived at any of your conclusions, I'm sure the world will be grateful. And that would show that you're not just lashing out angrily (and ignorantly) from frustration.

Anonymous said...

I'm right because I say I'm right.- Wordkyle

Anonymous said...

9:20... You talk about class like you know what it is. You keep posting like you have been and you bring down the whole town of Bridgeport.

Anonymous said...

Poor wordkyle. When he doesn't have a ready made talking point from FOX all he can do is try and double talk his way out. "Explain to me your thought process" instead of a straight answer. Then he'll berate you for not following him down a rabbit hole and still won't answer the original question.

No answer? Let's just build a handy dandy diversion instead! Your schtick is weak Wordy. Pompous and weak.

wordkyle said...

1030 - Once again, you ignore the opportunity I gave you to show a chain of thought behind your comments, and instead compounded your appearance of stupidity.

In case readers want to follow the game, someone (maybe 1030) said the Republicans on the committee agreed with the report on CIA interrogations. I provided evidence that claim was not only wrong, but spectacularly, demonstrably wrong.

I then made a statement regarding ineffective tactics and strategies and how strategists must adapt. This compelled weaker minds (likely 1030 again) to try throwing rocks instead of exhibiting any real thought.

And that's where we are now.

Anonymous said...

Once again, you dodge the original question. You also muddy the waters confusing who's pointing you out for being wrong about what. I'm the one saying you are wrong about torture being acceptable and McCain saying so as well. You keep wanting me to "tell you my feelings and thoughts" on how I (and presumably McCain) get that conclusion. You know how we got there? Because we are moral Americans, that's how. We don't put a political party's spin above what's always been right and what's always been wrong.

You're an internet troll, not some great American. You're the "domestic" guy I took an oath to defend the country against when I joined the service. You wouldn't know about that oath, would you?

Anonymous said...

Torture is wrong. Always has been. Always will be. Period.

Anonymous said...

Jesus Christ, wordkyle... How could a reasonable human being defend torturing prisoners?

While we are warriors, we are also human beings.