8.06.2010

Random Baseball Call Last Night

It's hard to tell, but it looks like the ball bounces outside the line BEFORE it gets to third base and then lands inside the line AFTER it passes third base. Does it have to go OVER third base?
See the clip here (they finally get around to the replay at the :54 mark,)

14 comments:

Third Base Line said...

Wouldn't the ball be foul since it bounced outside the field of play first? It was a foul ball before it was a fair ball!

Anonymous said...

It appeared to hit the foul line twice before it bounced over the bag and into fair territory. You can see the chalk fly. If it hits the foul line it is a fair ball.

Anonymous said...

Agree with 9:36. The ball was foul within 5 feet of the plate. It hit the ground foul directly off of the bat, and again half way to 3rd base. Very good call by the umpire.

Anonymous said...

The ball can go foul by feet, BEFORE it reaches first or third base, then turn fair before it reaches first or third base, and it is a fair ball.

A ball can be in fair territory, up to first or third, then turn foul, and it is a foul ball.

If it goes into foul territory after it passes first or third while fair, it is still a fair ball.

Curt Gowdy

Anonymous said...

That ball was fair all the way. The whole time. Ump blew it.

Anonymous said...

Somebody said Balls

Jack Daniels said...

I say we ask Mark Cuban. After all, he is Mr. Base.... Oh, Never Mind.

DF Emily Latella

Anonymous said...

Even with replay, everyone is still in disagreement. Glad I am not an ump.

10:16 How can a ball be foul then fair. A foul ball is a foul ball.

Anonymous said...

I think it still is a very boring game to watch, fair or not fair who cares.

Anonymous said...

Curt is right.

The key is the position of the ball when it reaches the bag. If the ball is, in the opinion of the umpire, in foul territory relatively to the third base bag, then it is a foul ball. If the ball had hit the bag or gone over the bag, then it would be a fair ball.

The ump said in an interview that he felt the ball was in foul territory when it went past the bag. Replays are inconclusive.

If the ball had never touched the ground before reaching the third base bag, then fair or foul would have been determined by when the ball was first contacted by a player or hit the ground.

If the ball had never reached the bag, then it would depend on where the ball was on the field of play when it was first touched or where it came to rest. That is why you will see players follow a bunt down the baseline, waiting for it to roll foul. As soon as it moves in to foul territory, they usually touch it, therefore making the bunt a foul. If the ball stops rolling without anyone touching it, on the foul line or in fair territory, then it is a fair ball.

No, I'm not an umpire, but I did stay at the Wise County jail last night...

Anonymous said...

11:00,

"How can a ball be foul then fair."

It cannot. A ball in foul territory is still live; until touched by a player, it hits something other than the ground, it passes first or third in foul territory, it stops rolling, and/or probably some other reasons. But those are the main ones. If one of those things occurs, while still in foul territory, it is foul.

If one of those things does not occur, and it rolls or bounces back fair, before reaching first or third, it is fair.

A ball can be fouled off behind the plate, and have enough spin to bounce back into fair territory. If it does not touch the catcher, umpire, or batter, it is a fair ball, and in play.

Anonymous said...

Dude!

Is that ARTIFICIAL TURF!!!!!

Anonymous said...

The only fair part of the plate is the white part and the black edges of the plate are foul

Anonymous said...

There are no black edges on home plate in major league baseball or the minor leagues.