The Campaign For DA

8.03.2015

OK, All Ye Who Mock

So I mentioned my bathroom project where I temporarily rerouted the water to fix the toilet.  Almost immediately, my many admirers called me an idiot for not shutting off the water to the entire house since the inline to the toilet wouldn't completely close.

I'm stupid but not an idiot. I thought of that!

I went to in the front flower bed and found it. It's new school and simple. It pretty much is this:


The house is probably 12 years old or so, but I bet that shut off value has never been turned. Why do I believe that? I couldn't budge it! I used WD-40. I tapped it with a rubber mallet. I used tools for leverage. Nothing.  I would have used a vice grip but there is not as much room on the neck as the one depicted here.

But given the option of snapping that thing off and/or having Old Faithful come to life, I let well enough alone. I'd used PVC pipe and comedy to fix the toilet before I'm screwing up the water supply to the entire house.

So here's my question: Are there any tricks to getting that thing to turn? I really don't want to call a plumber for that but it needs to work.  One of these days I'll have a busted pipe and that won't be the time to try and figure out how to get that thing to turn.

24 comments:

Anonymous said...

That is a gate valve, the spindle always corrodes. It is most likely soldered onto the existing line, and yes, you'll prolly need a plumber to do this. Unless you know how to sweat copper. Best off to replace it with a ball valve. Try going to the water meter itself next time.

Anonymous said...

Call your nearest fire department...they'll help turn that thing.

Anonymous said...

Your house is 12 years old? Dude business been kinda bad? Chase a few more ambulances and get yourself a new house so you won't have to mess with all this crap.

Once a house reaches about 12-15 years shit starts falling apart left and right.

Anonymous said...

Just turn it off at the water meter.

Anonymous said...

There should be a shut off at the water meter at the street.

Anonymous said...

Grow a little muscle in those baby arms?

Anonymous said...

Use your right arm BG. It has to have a better grip.

Capt. Schmoe said...

Pay the man, have that valve replaced with a 1/4 turn ball valve. Have him/her replace the supply valve where the supply runs into the house as well. Exercise valves every year when you swap out smoke detector batteries.

The plumber doesn't represent himself in court, you shouldn't try to be a plumber when you are over your head.

Anonymous said...

Next time turn it to the RIGHT.

Anonymous said...

Turn it off at the meter.

Anonymous said...

There is a valve at the water meter that should be easier to turn. Righty tighty, lefty loosey.

Anonymous said...

A gate valve turns the opposite way.

Anonymous said...

I agree with 10:27. Remember the lug nuts you couldn't budge? Hit the weights buddy.

Anonymous said...

Ball valve is your answer.

Anonymous said...

Have you checked the water meter? I hear there is a valve there as well...Thx! CH

Anonymous said...

A little oil might loosen things up. In your case, I'd suggest "Valvolean."

Anonymous said...

You are turning it the wrong way.

Anonymous said...

You know the rapture is near when plumbing takes blog precedent over rhome infighting

Anonymous said...

Back the nut off on top of the valve and spray penetrating oil there . That is a packing nut.It's probably corroded there.

Anonymous said...

That's the little one on the stem not the top of the valve

Anonymous said...

2:25

Plumbing always takes precedent when the rupture is near.

Anonymous said...

Is it a water heater or a hot water heater?

Anonymous said...

Not sure if anyone suggested this, but turn it off at the meter.

jon spencer said...

Capt. Schmoe is correct.

If the valves that isolate the water meter cannot be turned to the closed position you might have to have the water shut off by the curb stop. A curb stop is a valve on the city side of the meter, usually under ground and more than likely should only be opened or closed by whoever sells you the water.

Oh, and for the replacement valve. Buy a quality valve, american made preferred.
Apollo is a good brand.
About $20 for a 1/2" ball valve.