The Campaign For DA

3.21.2015

That Colleyville Murder and The Irish Travellers

Brad Pitt as an Irish Traveller in the great movie Snatch

Remember that really bizarre Colleyville murder which involved a couple of strangers allegedly killing a woman and trying to cash in on an insurance policy? Someone told me shortly after the arrest that it would involve Irish Travellers. That confused me because I knew nothing about them in the U.S. But, to cure my ignorance, the Star-Telegram has released a three part series on the case authored by Deanna Boyd and Melody McDonald Lanier.

Part one.
Part two.
Part three.



26 comments:

Anonymous said...

So I guess if I'd gone to see the movie Snatch, I'd have felt cheated.

Anonymous said...

I doubt that two Star-Telegram reporters will cure your ignorance. Your random Monday morning thoughts will prove it.

guinjames said...

Travellers started out, reportedly, as horse traders of the unscrupulous variety. Then ventured into other scams. Also known as tinkers or paveies.

Anonymous said...

part three's behind a paywall. Is this one of those advertisements posing as a news story?

janneba said...

Snatch was on tv last night on IFC I think it was. to me boring

Anonymous said...

Travelers would stop by my parents house every year wanting to seal our very long asphalt driveway.

The Travelers lived in a trailer park just off of White Settlement Road in 76114 about a half a mile or so from my parents place. That land overlooking the West Fork of the Triniy River is now being developed into an upscale neighborhood called Rivercrest Bluffs. Rivercrest aint south of the river, folks. I growed up on the wrong side off that dirty ol' river and I know.

I think they would train the really young uns in and around the Fort Worth area before heading north for the summer where they did most of their so-called work.

Anonymous said...

Same as 11:54

Of course I meant that Rivercrest isn't north of the Trinity River. North not south.

Jesus H. Christ I am losing my marbles.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for posting those articles, my liberal friend. That was interesting reading and I enjoyed it.

Anonymous said...

I liked snatch

Denney Crane said...

I don't believe Barry is a liberal. I think it's all smoke and mirrors...

Anonymous said...

Always surprises me what you don't know. Travelers have lived in Ft Worth many years. They still come out here to do asphalt driveways. There are some in Haslet living in a travel trailer park..have lived there a long time. I doubt they are as bad as people say, or they could not live so quietly as to not let people like you find out about them before now.

Anonymous said...

Brad Pitt was genius in Snatch!!

Anonymous said...

8:44 That is what Angelina said!!!

Max Sparber said...

I've been researching Travellers for a while now and feel it was unethical for the newspaper to publish the ethnicity of the suspects -- I am a journalist as well, and that's generally frowned on.

The Travellers have been treated miserably by the press, constantly presented as some sort of mass criminal conspiracy, with "Traveller" turning into a shorthand for "itinerant con artist." These articles repost a lot of the typical slanders against Travellers, but I have not been able to find anybody who can demonstrate that, as a group, they are more often criminal than anybody else in the world. And the current stories quote Paul Connolly, an Irish television personality who has become notorious for anti-immigrant and anti-Traveller hit pieces that are almost all accusation and no fact.

If you're interested, my writing about this can be found here: http://www.happyhooligan.co/culture/irish-travellers-in-america/

Anonymous said...

Great comment Max. Good reminder that we shouldn't buy into stereotypes about any group of people and the newspaper should know better. I look forward to reading your article.

Anonymous said...

Irish travellers are not a ethnic group in the United states..they are a sub culture like carneys or a cult type of living,the thing is everyone hadn't heard the whole story and I believe this case is going to be a very very big deal with not only Irish travellers involved but even English romany travellers maybey even the victims own family members involved because the victim is this case was also a travellers herself!

Anonymous said...

Here is some honesty for all of you! I am a traveller and 99% of do a lot of the types of things you read about ..we try to fool ourselves by telling ourselves what we do isn't wrong by knowing we scam for a living ..but sometimes it's hard to set back and lie to myself and pretend like the life I was born into to isn't wrong because I know it's wrong in my heart..however things like murder is something I can honestly say that I don't know anyone who has ever done such for money..on the other hand I have always wondered if some do to collect these large insurance amounts? A lot of money involved and hearing whispers about travellers that I know of getting rich when family members die has always made just stop and think if one day some would turn to killing? It's not something that they would tell others and now I set and wonder if others had died for greed? This is a true thaught From a traveller so please I don't want to argue ..I just wanted to share how I feel .

Anonymous said...

I am a traveller and yes we was horse traders and done a lot of other things to make a living and the main reason our grandparents had to move to the United states is because of the potato phamin,not all of the travellers left the uk from story's that I have been told as a child I would guess about 10% of the travellers in the U.K. left to start a new life in America and travellers are hated in the uk for the most part and we are accepted in the states but it seems like we are just making things worse for ourselves by the things we do..now I can't help but understand why we are thaught so poorly of in the uk because they been putting up with our bs for a couple hundred years longer then the folks in the United states..I can never thaught I would say this but I am ashamed to be a traveller and wish I would have been born to a regular hard working American family because this traveller can't keep living this lie no longer! Bless everyone who reads this and I am sure other travellers will see this and want to argue with me but I am not going to argue back! Right is right and wrong is wrong..and nothing about the life I live is right after stopping and thinking about how things realy are!

Anonymous said...

Google search asphalt paving scams on topix and there is like a bunch of topix involving Irish travellers and they are all arguing and it will blow your mind to just see the arrogance of these people,it like they think they are better then the non travellers people and they even brag about scamming people!it is something worth looking at if you start to feel bad for them because I am sure you won't after you read all of the threads and forums on topix about them..they get very mad when people try to share there story about getting scammed on asphalt paving work and other types of scams that have been pulled on them !

Anonymous said...

Down at the car lot they are known as "asphalt gypsies".

Famous for their scams, they used to compete with each other to prove how smart they are. Many seemed to be good guys, although many illiterate.

They also used to carry lots of cash. It must have been their way of keeping score.

Anonymous said...

Yes, you all got us figured out . I could only wish and hope that one day every person on this earth will accept us(haha) . My father didn't raise me to treat others as they treat me , he didn't teach me to be honest , he didn't show me integrity , he didn't show me how to express compassion , he didn't discipline me , he didn't ...oh wait ... He did !. You folks will never know who we really are , you just judge on what you read and what you hear from a journalist who writes on accusations and opinion . I won't say that the Gorman men accused of Anita fox's murder don't have ties to Fort Worth because they do ... But Im a traveller and I'm 35 years old and lived in Fort Worth my whole life and I've never met the men accused of this heinous crime . The writing is on the wall for people who are not travellers . It's easy to read somthing in a newspaper and assume it's fact , it's hard to sit down and think about it I guess , because if people sat down and thought about it we'd all be in prison, if everything in the paper was true . Your going to see in the near future who has fraudulent life insurance policy's and who are "scammers" ... And I'm as exited as anyone ! But it's going to be a tiny itty bitty fraction of my people , and when I say my people , I mean what you people mean. That said , thank you to anyone who does sit down and think about all this and doesn't rush to judge all 300 plus of us and put us all in the same basket !

Anonymous said...

Yeah ... Google big foot too and while your at it check out this giant shark called megladon , it's as big as a skyscraper ! ...don't believe nothing you hear and only half of what ya see . A knickle's worth of advice absolutely free for you jerk off !

Anonymous said...

i can't believe that little joe was able to get out on bond today! They already have evidence that he was making plans to run and he now knows he will probably be spending the rest of his life behind bars so what would stop him from running?i would imagine if a person wanted to run that a ankle bracelet wouldn't stop him !i have a feeling there is so much more to this story that we all haven't heard yet!

Anonymous said...

Tell the truth about the things your father did teach us as travellers ! The reason we are not taught compassion for others is because we are taught to scam from the age of when most kids should be in school..we are taught to make a living scamming and stealing..and 1 promise I can make is that my children will not be raised like we was! It is so typical of all travellers try to make out like we are good people and the truth is that we would not be able to provide for our family's if we was honest and if we took the time to build a business and do good old honest work we wouldn't have to move town to town every few weeks everytime we make the locals mad at us! It is time we stop lying to ourselves and stop lying to the people who want to learn about us because the only way we are going to get respect is by changing our ways and now is a perfect time to change and put the lies behind us! We will never be respected by trying to defend our lying and scamming ways by telling more lies! In order to do this all of us travellers need to start being honest with ourselves and with people who ask instead of going on the defense! My Jill's is conya

Anonymous said...

Being a traveller myself, I can understand why it being told about all of the people involved being travellers..this is maybe the biggest story about us to date and it's one that we are not proud of! However it's not just Irish travellers because the victims son Inlaw is a English traveller and the victim lived as a traveller..so to be fair I don't blame the media on this one..now maybe a couple of us can get rich on some movie or TV deals lol jk:)

Anonymous said...

If the son Inlaw would have not been so greedy this lady would still be alive today! If there wasn't a life insurance policy on this lady no one would even think about hurting her,I realize the got and done the physical harm but only to collect on the life insurance policy that was baught and sold by Mr Buckland! I don't know how his wife can even stand to lay beside him at night or look him in the face knowing he is to blame for this tragedy unless she knew what was going on all along and was ok with it? I don't know these people but I have the brains to see this lady would be alive if people wasn't wanting to collect money on her,the policy's was coming to a end and was term life and if they wasn't collected all of that money paid in would have been lost,Shame on the Gormans and shame on The son Inlaw who put this poor old lady in harms way and paying with her life! She will never see all of her grand kids married and raised and never see all of her grand children grown all thanks to the greed of someone she trusted and thaught cared for,but in reality only seen dollar $$&!