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11.20.2008

Now This, I'm Interested In

The trial is about to begin where the federal government is prosecuting Lori Drew for allegedly making up a fake identity of a boy, and then befriending and breaking up with a teenage neighbor, Megan Meier, on Myspace. Megan then hung herself. First, the feds have no business being involved in this. If the State authorities didn't want to take the case, butt out. This is your federal government trying to imprison this lady. We're going to blame Lori Drew because Megan decided to hang herself because she was rejected online? That's the reason to kill yourself? Finally, Megan's mom is a nutcase who can't keep away from a television camera. Her hatred of Lori Drew is perhaps understandable, but she is completely over the top. And she might want to look in the mirror and consider her parenting skills since she raised a daughter which couldn't handle simply being a teenager.

50 comments:

wordkyle said...

BG - First, the girl's mother probably is questioning her parenting skills. I imagine that the question "What could I have done to prevent this?" goes through her mind pretty constantly.

And if someone purposely makes your child so miserable that she kills herself, then the grieving parent has the right to do or say whatever they can to exact justice.

Anonymous said...

BG- You missed the ball on this one. Who wouldn't be a "nutcase" if this happened to your family?

Ernest T. Bass said...

Why was Lori Drew so insecure that she felt that she had to do all of this to torment this 13-year old girl? She is 49-years old, for god's sake, she needs to grow up.

Also, as a previous blogger said, who wouldn't be a nutcase if this happened to your family. I know that I would be and would want to get punishment on the person responsible.

Anonymous said...

BG-You are right on!

Anonymous said...

I can't believe that you're being an apologist for the woman being prosecuted. You don't think it's pathetic that she, being a mother and adult, didn't have anything better to do than torment a teenager? Because her daughter and this girl had a fight, she's going to create a persona online to mess with this teenager? Sounds like she couldn't handle being an adult. Can you handle it? Comments you make sometimes aren't very well thought out. I think that you're belittling the wrong person. There's never an excuse to take your own life, but to go after a grieving mother and the girl?! To quote Billy Madison's 3rd grade teacher, "Are you crazy? Do you have a soul?"

Anonymous said...

Oh boy, wait until Oprah and Dr. Phil pick up on this.

Stand by America.

Very very sad.

Michael Natale said...

I'm afraid I'm not with you on this one BG.

WTF possible reason could this woman have had to do this to a teenage girl?

As a parent, I'd be out of my mind, over the top and probably in jail for strangling the woman with my bare hands.

Blaming the kid is just wrong.

Anonymous said...

If a neighbor of mine was tormenting one of my kids the only reason the Law would be involved is to arrest me for assault, battery, possibly more. This DREW woman is supposedly an adult but yet she's after a young girl. Boy, Barry maybe you should be this things lawyer and if I was on the jury, You'd lose!!!!

pdise girl said...

BG- you must not have children!

Anonymous said...

yeah, you're wrong

Anonymous said...

If you read further into it, you'll realize that the girl was already suicidal and was a cutter, AND her mother already knew about all of that. The mother let it continue. She has no one to blame but herself.

Bad parenting. Period.

I agree with Barry on this one, this woman couldn't even raise her child to cope with being a teenager. She was bound to kill herself at some point or another whether it be from having a relationship with a fictitious boy she'd never met, or anything else.

Yeah, it's a stupid thing to do for an old woman to go messing around with some girl's emotions, but jeez...taking it to a federal level is just insane.

Anonymous said...

Why is it the woman who's being charged? It's the 19 year old fat chick who sent the message "the world would be a better place without you" which instantly led to the girl going off her rocker and hanging herself. That fatty just doesn't want to get in trouble for something that she had done.

Anonymous said...

I may be just an old school Texan. But, the 49 yr old needs a butt whoopin. Just for being stupid. The kid should have been in counseling for cutting and destructive behavior.

Anonymous said...

Barry, I thought the Federal Government became involved because of the laws relating to the Internet? Regardless, I think they should run this lady through the prison system, let her find out there what a chicken s$%t she is and hopefully a few lesbians will do a little slap around in her. O.K. maybe that's a little dramatic but what she did was totally wrong and she needs to be punished for it. People are punished for far less everyday.

Anonymous said...

Wasn't the dead teenager tormenting Lori Drew's daughter in the beginning? Isn't that what started all this mess in the first place?

Right or wrong, Lori Drew was protecting her child too.

Anonymous said...

Being a parent to a teenager is the hardest job in the world. As a parent of a teenager myself, I question my parenting skills every day. Being a teenager these days is a lot harder to "handle" than it was when I was a teenager. We would like to think that it isn't, but we're wrong. I see it everyday with my own child. I would never, ever, ever blame her mother for what went wrong here. We all do the best we can and unfortunately, some kids make a wrong choice that affects them and their families forever. We all just pray that our own kids aren't affected this way.

As for this other woman, she deserves whatever comes to her. How stupid, immature and emotionally unstable she must be to do this to a young child. If it were my child she did this to, you can bet I would be doing everything in my power to see that she is punished for it. She's no different than a child predator in my book.

Anonymous said...

Usually just a reader on this, but have to respond. I agree with what your saying BG, but I have been following the story when it 1st happened. Apparently this Megan girl was already "not all there" had some depression issues. And the lady who pulled this prank did it because Megan was mean to her daughter. So she felt she had to get back at Megan for that. This lady is a grown adult, she had no business even contacting this girl. But it went on for a while, where she pretended to be this hot guy who was crazy about Megan. And Megan actually fell pretty hard for him. So if you have a teenager you know how hard and easy they fall if they think they are in love. Do I think the FBI should be involved? No. But something needs to be done to this mother. It was just stupid and immature on her part. Very sad story..

Denney Crane said...

It's real easy to give opinions when you don't have kids or a family!

Anonymous said...

This woman knew this child and new she had emotional problems. She knew what she was doing and she did it with the intentions of hurting the girl emotionally. The way the girl had done to her own child. Intentionally hurting a child no matter how is child abuse and Lori Drew should be punished for it.

I also think that is normal for some one to be charges with manslaughter if the injuries they cause to a person leads to their dead. I believe that Lori abused Megan and this led her to hang herself. I dont believe she is only person responsible for her death be contributed to it. I think she deserves to be in jail(not for the rest of her life but for a while). It is my understanding that she doesnt believe she did anything wrong so I think there needs to be something in place that will prevent her from doing something like this again. (Does she have other kids? She will have grandkids one day.)

mzchief said...

Bravo to Barry for being spot on with his observations!

Just a brief amount of the back story to this sorted tale;
Megan Meier, (dead girl) and Lori Drew's daughter had been on again off again friends for several years. However, prior to Megan killing herself in Oct. Lori Drew's duaghter had a final falling out and Megan was talking a lot of smack about Lori Drew's daughter and bullying Lori Drew's daughter at school and online/MySpace. Lori Drew went to Megan Meier's parents 3 times and asked them to have Megan stop harassing her daughter. Megan was, for awhile, banned, by the Meier's, from MySpace but she continued to bully Lori Drew's daughter at school. Ashley Grills, a part time employee of Lori Drew's has admitted to opening the MySpace account and sending the final message to Megan Meier. Lori Drew was not aware of the final message sent to Megan nor did she instruct Ashley Grills to send that type of message. Lori Drew is basically being prosecuted by the feds for violating the MySpace terms of service agreement. Incidentally, on Dec. 3, 2007, "Jack Banas, the St. Charles County prosecuting attorney, said at a Monday press conference that he reviewed state laws regarding harassment, stalking and child endangerment and concluded that the intent of those who created the fake MySpace account did not meet the criminal threshold."

As far as Megan Meier knew, a boy, whom she had never met and with whom she had never spoken, named Josh Evans, broke off their friendship because of the mean, hateful rumours Megan spread about other people. Megan Meier never knew she was not communicating with a boy named Josh.

Source

Perhaps, had Megan been taught to be less of a mean girl/bully and not dished out more than she was able to handle when a "boy" dished it back to her she would have had the tools to properly handle being rejected for bullying people. Just because a mean person/bully commits suicide does not mean they automatically become an innocent victim and a martyr.

mzchief said...

AHEM!!!
A few more FACTS!

Ashley Grills, Lori Drew's employee, long ago, admitted to opening the "Josh Evans" MySpace account. Grills admitted that she and Lori Drew's daughter are the ones who sent the messages. Grills admitted to sending the final message. Grills also admitted to having given the "Josh Evans" account password to another 13 year old female neighbour who sent mean messages to Megan Meiers via the "Josh Evans" account. Lori Drew admitted to knowing about the account and telling the girls to make certain their communication with Megan did not involve anything sexual.

The reason the feds are going after Drew is because Grills was given immunity for her statement regarding Lori Drew's involvement in the case.

Source

Anonymous said...

Like my hero Homer J Simpson once said: "Kids are the greatest! You can teach them to hate the same things you do. Plus, they practically raise themselves, what with the internet and all."

I thought it was appropriate for the conversation

mzchief said...

More FACTS.
On Nov. 19, 2008, Tina Meier (dead girl's mother) testified in court that her daughter was not suppose to be on MySpace and should not have gotten in an argument with "Josh Evans" and two other girls while on MySpace.

Source

Clearly, Megan Meier was a teenage girl who was WAY out of control. Sounds like her parents should have done a better job of being parents rather than blaming other people for what Megan did to them and herself.

This is a case about people who should be taking responsibility for their own actions/failures rather than attempting to blame other people.

Anonymous said...

This is not about if the people here are mean or bad parents. The issue here is can the federal government step in and overide state law. I understand the outrage created by this tragic event, but prosecuting someone that has not broken any laws has the potential of creating kaos in the legal system. If someone can be jailed because of popular opinion that is not backed by law, then it can and will happen to anyone.

Anonymous said...

Wow, I was going disagree with you, Barry. But since Mzchief agreed with you, you must already know you were wrong on this one.

Anonymous said...

Bottom line is someone or something needs to get a handle on this MySpace thing. It is totally out of control and is and will cause a multitude of problems in the future. It takes bullying and harrassment to a whole different level.

Anonymous said...

How diabolical...I must get immediately to work and try this ploy on my many ex-wives!

After a nano second of thought,I wish I had known about this before I got married.

Anonymous said...

"raised a daughter who simply couldn't handle being a teenager"

Are you really that much of an idiot? How dare you say such a harsh and completely inaccurate thing about a DEAD teenager. There is nothing simple about being a teenager! We are talking about a child with clear psychological issues that led to her taking her own life. I agree with wordkyle.

Your statements make you seem like an insensitive jerk, which you probably are.

Denney Crane said...

From what I get out of these comments, I shouldn't be charged with a crime if the following were to occur...

So, if I don't like...let's say... black people for instance... it's okay for me to promote genocide by inciting rioting and gang violence... just so long as I am able to keep my hands clean while stirring up the violence...

I could even give them guns and still keep my hands clean...

I just don't think I could ever wash the blood off my hands... justice or not!

Anonymous said...

Question #1- If a sexual preditor, under the guise of a teenager uses the internet to manipulate an unsuspecting teenager to consider sex, is that illegal or does the act have to be consumated?

Question #2- If an adult tricks a mentally challenged person, such as one with Downs Syndrome, to do something that causes harm to them, is this criminal?

Question #3- Aren't crimes like Statutory Rape in place because of an underage person's lack of ability to protect themself from an adult?

Question #4- Aren't cases that qualify as federal and state normally prosecuted through the federal system and since the world wide web was involved, doesn't that make it federal?

Anonymous said...

Teenage girls can be very mean. My daughter went thru alot of drama with name calling and bullying in Junior High. I wanted to kick some ass, because it is natural to want to take up for your child. But, most of it is petty and life goes on. Most of the time it is better to let your child handle those type of situations on their own. What Lori Drew did was wrong, but I can understand that in a wierd, twisted type way she was trying to protect her daughter. Bad Deal!!!

Noevadeaux said...

The Internet brings out the stupid in all of us. It's probably good for the environment, it's a natural, evolutionary thing. Get used to it. It's here to stay.

Act appropriately or pay the consequences.

Anonymous said...

The whole thing is twisted and sad but how is this federal jurisdiction unless it was appealed from a lower court?

Anonymous said...

2:51, the internet isn't going away. Get used to it. Myspace has tons of security features for those smart enough to utilize them. This girl had to accept this random guy as a friend, the girl must've lied to get a Myspace account because you can't sign up for one unless you are 14, or have lied to say you are at least 14. It's a parents responsibility to block these websites off their computer, there are also programs which allow you to track what websites your children are viewing even if they are on a separate account on the computer. Overall, bad parenting was involved. All these kids who get raped or killed due to meeting some crazy on Myspace only have themselves to blame. Myspace is not the monster, it's all a matter of careless parenting.

Mr. Mike Honcho said...

Two Mom's are pretty distraught over one teenagers death. They should and will be till they leave this world.

That's all I got to say about that.

Anonymous said...

6:44 I don't care how careful of a parent you are, these kids will find a way to use MySpace whether it is on your own personal computer or someone elses. No parent can completely protect their children from these kinds of things. It's impossible. I guess that Lori Drew's parents are to blame as well. (according to you)

Anonymous said...

Hey we know BG (1) only likes half-naked chicks (2) has no use for anyone older than 45 (3) is a lawyer which takes him out of the human race category (4) definitely has no parenting skills and (5) will fit right in, in NYC

mzchief said...

To Denney Crane...
It is not the fault of alcohol manufacturers that SOME people drive drunk and kill other people. It is not the fault of gun manufacturers that SOME people shoot and kill other people. It is not fault of Krispy Kreme that SOME people weigh 100+ pounds too much. There is such a thing as PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. Lori Drew is no more at fault for Megan Meier taking her life than an adult cheering on a bunch of kids playing dodge ball and one of the kids gets hurt. There are countless kids being treated for depression and ADD who do NOT kill themselves when some random person on MySpace rejects them.

Based upon ALL of the FACTS, Megan Meier had been dishing out quite a bit of hate and vitriol to SEVERAL people for quite some time. Megan Meier could not handle being called on her bullying and took her own life when she was treated, by three girls, Ashley Grills, Lori Drew's daughter and another 13 year old in the neighbourhood, the same way she had been treating others.

Karma is a bitch when a person is a jerk!

Anonymous said...

Barry baits the hook and waits for the carp to bite!And they swim from both sides of the stream to get on the hook!



BlogNinja 2012

Anonymous said...

mzchief...you're an idiot.

Anonymous said...

Mzchief, Barry, and Jarhead should all sail away on the ship lollipop of geniuses. Cause these mother******* have it all figured out.

Anonymous said...

9:53, the mother of this girl wasn't careful at all. Yes she could've been using Myspace somewhere else, but she wasn't. She was at home. The mother knew about the relationship and still allowed it to continue.

You have bad logic deriving that Lori Drew's parents should have protected her from Myspace. She's a woman in her 40's. She's also not the brains behind this operation and is being unfairly pinned in this case.

The girl was bat shit crazy. The mom already knew it and yet she let her do whatever the hell she wanted, including letting her continue a Myspace relationship.

Parents have got to learn to stop pointing fingers at society and look at themselves for problems with the way their child has turned out. Parenting has gone way downhill because hardly anyone takes responsibility for their child's actions. I hardly even see parents holding their child's hand when crossing the street anymore, much less taking the precautions to protect their child online.

Anonymous said...

"Karma is a bitch when a person is a jerk!"

Jerk this, mzcreep.

Denney Crane said...

"Lori Drew is no more at fault for Megan Meier taking her life than an adult cheering on a bunch of kids playing dodge ball and one of the kids gets hurt."

I respectfully disagree with you. Children need protection from predators...no matter where or how it transpires!

But I do agree with one thing you said... "Karma is a bitch when a person is a jerk!"

Anonymous said...

"Lori Drew is no more at fault for Megan Meier taking her life than an adult cheering on a bunch of kids playing dodge ball and one of the kids gets hurt."

That's the dumbest thing you have ever said on here Mzchief!

Anonymous said...

1:42 I was being sarcastic when I said that Lori Drew's parents were to blame. I'm in my 40's as well and I think that I know that MySpace was not around then.

I do agree that parents need to take more responsibility and quit expecting the schools and society to control them. That is one of the reasons that I thought it was so absurd that Lori Drew would allow something like this to happen as well. It's just a sad situation and one that is easy to look at and say "they should have done this" or "shouldn't have done that" after the fact.

Anonymous said...

2:15

I don't agree with what Lori Drew had done, but I wouldn't consider it criminal, especially being worthy of a federal case.

Anonymous said...

Does a computer have an off switch?

Jarhead said...

0833:

Why, yes, we do have it all figured out.

Thanks for acknowledgeing our collective genius, even though I haven't [until now] even posted an opinion on this topic. Credit to Barry and Mz on this one.

At least I've got you thinking.

Anonymous said...

COME ON FOLKS~~ THIS IS AMERICA! FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! WHAT RED BLOODED AMERICAN WOMAN, GETS HER KICKS DOING THIS KIND OF MESSED UP CRAP, I KNOW IF THIS WHERE TO HAPPEN TO A CHILD OF MINE, SHE WOULD BE BEGGING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO SAVE HER TWISTED OVER GROWN BEHIND! OMG, HOW ON EARTH ARE WE EVER GONNA GET HER IN TOUCH WITH REALITY AND CLEARLY LETTING HER KNOW WHAT SHE DID WAS OVER BOARD TO SAY THE LEAST, PUT THIS TO A VOTE, AND LET THE PEOPLE DECIDED HOW TO PUNISH HER, I SAY LIFE IN PRISON WITH OUT THE POSSIBILITY OF PAROL, IN MAYBE A MAXIUM SECURITY FEMALE UNIT WHERE THEY KNOW AHEAD OF HER ARRIVAL WHAT TWISTED SORT OF B.S. SHE IS INTO AND TURN THEM LOOSE ON HER OLD "" I WANNA BE A SCHOOL KID"" ASS, THIS REALLY IS GOING WAY BEYOND WHAT PLAYING AROUND MEANS HERE IN america!!!