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1.23.2016

Decatur ISD Policy Regarding Cell Phones

If a phone is confiscated you have to pay $15 to get it back? Are you kidding me? Why not kick it up to $150? Heck, let's go with $1,500.

I have it on good authority that a hypothetical courthouse employee got hypothetically pissed off with this policy and paid the $15 with a hypothetical 1,500 in pennies. She hypothetically is my new hero. #YouGoGirl #FightTheMan

Edit: Proof, hypothetically of course, as she began her campaign to collect the necessary pennies . . .


 Edit: I want to know the name of the person who wrote that policy. Someone tell me who it is. 


90 comments:

Anonymous said...

So....where does the money go?

Anonymous said...

How can a school, a government office confiscate personal property and then charge a fee to give it back. That is going to cost the tax payers a lot of money when they start getting sued.

PENAL CODE

TITLE 7. OFFENSES AGAINST PROPERTY

Sec. 31.03. THEFT. (a) A person commits an offense if he unlawfully appropriates property with intent to deprive the owner of property.
(b) Appropriation of property is unlawful if:
(1) it is without the owner's effective consent;

Bear said...

What would be your policy about distractions from cell phones during class?

Anonymous said...

This policy is complete bullshit.

Anonymous said...

2:51

How about, if the phone causes an issue in class, the teacher takes up the phone and leaves it on the teachers desk until class is over. When the student leaves the room they get their phone back.

Why does it have to go to the office and be held for ransom?

Anonymous said...

Question for courthouse employee: Did they accept the pennies?
When my son was there and they have that stupid $30 charge for a parking sticker, he tried to pay it with 3000 pennies and they refused to accept it.

Anonymous said...

If a phone is confiscated you have to pay $15 to get it back? Are you kidding me? Why not kick it up to $150? Heck, let's go with $1,500.

Sometimes you need to have a penalty that helps make the rule work. It is going to be an administrative mess I agree. Putting on the teachers desk without punitive measure WILL not work.

Can the brain power on this blog come up with a better answer?

Anonymous said...

I was really ticked when my kids had their phones taken up, and had to pay ransom. But the second time, I was ticked at my kids, not the school. The kids know the score. Name a better policy to keep ringing, buzzing, and dinging out of the classroom.

Anonymous said...

It is my policy to charge $100 per minute for personal property taken from me. How is this any different from their BS ploy and when will they pay up?

Anonymous said...

Bear and the other neocon nutjobs would rather the punishment for even the most mundane transgressions be ramped up to the fullest. They have long envied middle eastern nations ability to stone women, cut off the hands of thieves, and behead non-believers at will.

They just seem to love punishment and don't care so much about the details of whether a crime was committed or not. If we keep electing these people eventually we will get back to having lynch mobs, like in the good ol' days.

Anonymous said...

I hope she dumped them out on the counter and they went everywhere. A nice touch would have been to short them one cent.

Bear said...

I know how my grandkids are with electronics today. I can only imagine what it would be like in a class full of them. The teacher would probably spend more time confiscating phones than anything else.

Why don't the parents teach the kids to be more respectful and not use their phones during class?

Anonymous said...

Can't a government official refuse to accept pennies as payment for any fine?

Anonymous said...

Seriously people???? How about your little shits follow the rules??? Only way to get through to them: take their $. And if you parents pay the fine For the kids, they'll never learn. Don't like the rule? Be a parent and don't let your sweet little baby Jesus have the phone at school. BTW: lots of schools have been doing this for a long time.

Anonymous said...

I pay panhandlers in pennies. Not really. I was just wondering whatever happened to the Decatur beggar segment at Liberally Lean From the Land Of Dairy Queen. The Decatur beggar was a real trooper, yo.

Anonymous said...

@ 3:18 pm, yes they took the pennies as payment, but still would not give me the phone back until they were able to count/roll them.

@ 4:12 pm, my 13 year old doesn't have a job to pay his own fine, most like any 13 year old that I know. and this does not go without punishment. i am just as mad at him over this as i am the fact that i had to pay ransom for my own property. and he will be punished so that it hopefully doesn't happen again and he will have to do chores to earn the money that i had to pay for his stupidity.

Anonymous said...

Hey idiots...the phones don't get taken...and no fee is necessary for retrieval, if the student adheres to the policy. It is an OPTIONAL fee that spoiled kids choose to cause their parents to pay, not a "theft" or a "ransom". You can't be on the phone in class. Can't grill burgers either; or hit golf balls, or strip naked, or anything else that disrupts.

Anonymous said...

3:43 I don't think that's what 'Bear' said. He/she just asked what would be a reasonable and effective policy.

Try to keep up.

- Not Bear

Anonymous said...

If you don't like the fee, don't disregard a very, very simple rule to follow. And if you don't like the rule, then vote in a slate of school board members that will turn the ISD into nothing but fun time for all the kids, with a degree awarded at the end for being able to text all day. It's amazing how many grown, supposedly smart people get so worked up over something they have absolute control over, and yet just whine and cry instead of taking action. Vote the school board out and vote in those that want kids to be on phones all day...because that is absolutely, totally what the kids would do..all day.

Anonymous said...

Again...I'd like to know what the school does with the $15.

Anonymous said...

502,

Teacher's lounge tequila.

Not the good stuff either.

Anonymous said...

For you folks ranting about the "spoiled kids", it's not the confiscating of the phone that's the issue. It's the $15 ransom. Teachers have been taking things away from students for as long as there have been teachers and students. The fact they are extorting money (and it is out and out extortion) is the problem.

Anonymous said...

Suits the &4it out of me .How about the next time you're pleading a case and the judge starts tweeting ? Oh/ It's different now ! I kinda liked it when the officer slam dunked the student over her refusing to hand over phone.MY KIDS MIND ME AND WHOEVER IS IN CHARGE OR THEY WILL LEARN ONE OF THE GREATEST TEACHING AIDS IN THE WORLD !PAIN,DENIAL AND REWARD !

Anonymous said...

obamacare fer yur cell phone

Anonymous said...

BTW...doesn't the school provide the students with lap tops? So why confiscate cell phones when roughly 80% of the student body has them in possession?

Anonymous said...

So in a way, he IS paying! Kudos to you!

Anonymous said...

My school puts it in the general fund.

Anonymous said...

Just ban phones in schools. I survived 40 years of my life without cell phones. I wish I could send a terminator back in time and destroy whoever invented the damn thing.

Captain Eddie said...

Why can't the school ban all student cell phones on campus? What happened to the good-old days where the student went to the main office to make a call? Or, receive a message? It's simple to me. No student cell phones on campus. PERIOD

Captain Eddie said...

Why can't the school ban all student cell phones on campus? What happened to the good-old days where the student went to the main office to make a call? Or, receive a message? It's simple to me. No student cell phones on campus. PERIOD

Anonymous said...

What's worse is a lot of these items end up missing and taken home by school employees or office aides. They might be wearing that jacket you left in the locker room.

Anonymous said...

5:02

I don't know about Decatur, but Flower Mound High School used to use the collected cell phone money for scholarships.

Cell phones are the bane of a teacher's existence. Had a kid this morning whose father would not quit texting the kid during class. The student was nearly in tears because if the father does not get a response, the kid gets in trouble. Dad is a total nut job, and I know that, so I didn't take the phone. I emailed an administrator and asked him to call the father and tell him to quit disrupting my class.
I have no idea what happened after that, but the texts stopped.

Anonymous said...

The parents that are bitching about this are the parents that let their precious little children do whatever they want and act like shits. Then whine to mommy and daddy. Nut doesn't fall too far from the tree.

Anonymous said...

The rules are for the chumps and suckers.

sparkerr said...

When I was a DHS teacher (had to retire 4 yrs ago) the parking fees went to scholarship fund for the current seniors.

Anonymous said...

I say take up the phone, and make the parents go pick them up the 1st time. The second time, make the parents go pick up the phone and pay the $15 fine. Then, increase the fine by $5 ever time after that, but always make the parent take off work or time out of their day to deal with this nonsense.

Anonymous said...

haaaa ha GIF,,or it did not happen



anti giff guy smfh

rr

Anonymous said...

To the parent of the year who thinks they really "stuck it to the man" by paying the fine in 1,500 pennies. There wouldn't be the need for such a policy if your kid practiced a little cell phone etiquette while at school. Guess that didn't make it into your parenting. Also set a real good example by paying the fine on your kid's behalf.


Don't you know that banks have a machine that counts coins? Probably takes about 30 seconds to count 1,500 pennies. Now compare that to the time it took you gather/count those pennies yourself, moron.

I want to know the name of the "courthouse employee". Someone tell me who it is.

Oh, and what are you going to do, big bad Barry, once you find out who wrote the policy?

Anonymous said...

The kid really must have done something disruptive and disrespectful to have his phone taken up in Decatur ISD. They are much less strict than many other districts about devices in the classroom.. School people know there is always the other side of the story that never gets to the public.

The kid probably was told several times to put it away then smarted off to the teacher. That's what gets you in trouble.

Getting it taken up and then paying $15 is a pain in the ass probably because the kid was being a pain in the ass. And no matter how good a 13 year old is there is always a very high chance they were being a pain in the ass. THEY ARE 13 YEARS OLD!

Anonymous said...

The struggle is real.

Anonymous said...

The real problem here is kids being unable to sit in a 1 hour instructional class without texting, surfing social media, or otherwise being distrcted by these devices. Heaven help us!

Anonymous said...

It's just awesome that parents would be so outraged at the school, and not their own kid, for violating a basic, simple, easily followed rule. You know DARN WELL that a phone is not going to be confiscated if a student makes a quick, discreet call or text in between classes, etc. Teachers and school administrators are not monsters; guarantee you that this rule is only used when there is a situation that is disruptive or when a kid completely ignores a warning or two, etc. Go stand for just one day with the average teacher or school administrator trying to teach those precious angels and see what they have to deal with between the students and their parents.

Anonymous said...

Penny for your thoughts?

DF Abraham Lincoln
at least I'm also on the fiver

Anonymous said...

Cant make yo deals without a device. Seriously phones are the least of DHSs problems.

Anonymous said...

This is sad on so many levels.

Don't mess with your phone during class. It's pretty simple.

And what exactly is the point of paying with pennies? Is there not a more effective way of communicating whatever it is you're trying to communicate?

Anonymous said...

Try taking a kid's phone up without a policy in place! Then, if you are a sub...try it. I taught for years and then subbed one year. The rule in one HS teacher's class was that phones were put in a bin for the period, to be retrieved as kids left. You'd have thought I asked them to do something they'd never heard of, though I handed the lesson plans to a student to read. Responses ranged from, 'You're not a teacher anymore," to "make me do it," I just walked around with the bin and said, "Turn off your phone and put it here, or take a note and go to the office." About seven took the note to go to the office. I called and asked for an administrator to come escort them, considering the number.
My goodness...attitudes changed in a heartbeat! Every phone was in the bin when the admin arrived. The point is...unless you choose to battle every period every day, there has to be a policy. Most are written in Austin, vetted by the school district's legal advisor there, and voted on by the school board. Few are written locally!

Anonymous said...

Decatur ISD is a joke. We can't give teachers a raise but year after year we give our Supt a raise. We over pay our basketball coach and create a meaningless job for the ADs wife. The AD has no discipline in his program, and the lifting program is a joke. Probably why he can't win a playoff game.

Anonymous said...

How immature. What does bringing a bag of pennies to the school office prove? The Ladies at the front didn't make the rule but your son broke it. All it does is makes you look foolish and teaches your child that a rule can be broken but that's ok - you can just show up and show out and all will be good. No wonder he broke a rule.

Anonymous said...

Can't we just smash the phone over the child's head, remove them from their home as wards of the state, and confiscate all of the parents money (bank accounts, 401k, IRA's, etc.). We just don't punish like we should these days, it is all about deterrence. We should also publicly whip the entire family, sterilize both parents and euthanize any children under school age. I can guarantee the phone issue would go away!!!

DF Hitler

Anonymous said...

https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3caixl/eli5_how_can_a_high_school_charge_a_student_money/

Doc Logic said...

They are trying to ban them... but kids keep bringing them. So they put teeth in the rule.... $15 to get them back.

Anonymous said...

The cell phone money goes to the super's funds. And the friends with benifits (admin) gifts.

Bear said...

@3:43 and all the others that think their precious little angel can do no wrong:

You all need to be the parent here. If you can't control your child, then someone else will. From the sound of it, it will most likely be the police in a few years.

Teach your kid some to show some respect. If they don't want an education, then get the hell out. Go get a job.

All the school is asking is for quiet time to teach a lesson.

But for all those that get "participation" trophies, they don't understand anyway.

I fear for the future of this country if this keeps going as it is.

Anonymous said...

Cell phones have no place in the classroom. Period. In my classroom, they are not allowed. This is understood the first day of class. Parents and students sign off and understand my policy in my classroom. They are to be in purse, pocket or backpack. If seen, yes, they are picked up. I have no issues with them because students and parents both know my rule. I've only had two situations all year long. They know I mean business about the phones. All about classroom management.

Anonymous said...

Homeschool your little shitheads since they cannot follow the rules. Because we all know that their little text message is waaaaaayyyyyy more important than the education of the others in the classroom.

I do not like to use the word hate but I completely HATE parents that won't teach their little darlings to follow simple rules. When the little darlings go for a job one day they may be asked to stay off their cellphones so they can focus on the work at hand (kinda like focusing on a classroom assignment or instruction). If they use their phones at work they may be fired and then the parents can complain about that.

Whatever happened to being a responsible individual in this country???

Anonymous said...

When you send your child to school you get a handbook. Most districts require that you sign something saying you received the handbook and that you have read it. Follow the freaking rules people or go to the school board and start a grassroots campaign to end the horribly unfair rules your child is being subjected to.
And for the lady with the pennies - did you feel mature when you did that? You handed that big bag of pennies to someone who makes very little to deal with you and your irresponsible child. That person didn't make the rule they are just given the job to receive the fines. Did you feel like you really showed them? Well you showed them alright - you showed them you are an ass. Grow up.

Anonymous said...

Well Berry, what would you say to your children if they had their phones picked up? What would the "Affluenza" mom say?

Anonymous said...

First World problem.....

Anonymous said...

Regarding the payment in pennies - I thought there was a law in place that stated an American institution/organization/business could not decline American currency, with the exception that there is not enough change if overpaid or if it creates a hardship for the company? Is that true?

Anonymous said...

Some of the idiots on here seem to think this all about the rule and not the punishment. I don't think anyone is supporting that the kids shouldn't follow the rules, it is just that the punishment is stupid. If you are a teacher and have to resort to this form of punishment then you are terrible at your job. If my kid got in trouble for this I'd bust his butt myself, but it is my phone to take away, not the government's. I don't need some panty waist liberal government employee hiding behind graft as a punishment when they can't control their own classroom.

Anonymous said...

I agree phones should be put away during class. I know (saw first hand) kids use their phones to cheat on their test. I also am the parent that text one time during the day to let them know I would be late getting home from work. Yes, his phone was taken up and yes I paid $25.00 to get it back. It was my fault for texting.

Anonymous said...

Yeah let's start a drive to find out who paid this fine in pennies and tried to "stick it to them". That is the real question, not who wrote the policy that tons of schools have in place. We want to know who is teaching their kids to act like an ass when asked to follow a rule.

Anonymous said...

9:49 Aren't you a good little Jew, so willing to hand over your money without putting up a fight. Now hop in the gas chamber!

Your child deserved punishment, but that should never include graft and greed. Go get your money and your dignity back.

Denney Crane said...

Hot topic! I don't see this one going away soon.

Question: WWTD - What would Trump do?

Which should not be confused with:

WWTS - What would Trump say?

Anonymous said...

@11:08

What do you do when you get a speeding ticket or other moving violation? Don't you pay a fine for breaking the rules?

How is this any different?

Anonymous said...

6:08

I think they should take the money and hire a new head Basketball Coach with some class and integrity

Anonymous said...

Just to be clear on this. I am not against the rule, I am against the school charging a fee to get my personal property back. I agree whole heartedly that my son broke a rule and should be punished for it. I just think the school should have some other form of punishment that charging the parent.

Anonymous said...

1:56 Speeding and other minor crimes have victims, or potential victims. Use of a cell phone in class doesn't endanger anyone. While it certainly needs to be punished, we shouldn't be so quick to hand over our hard earned money in lieu of meaningful discipline.

My rule for my children on this issue is simple, get it taken up in class and you lose the privilege for 2 weeks. I dish out the punishment until they become adults, not the other way around. I'm not paying somebody that never spent a day in the real world to retrieve my own property over nonsense that could be handled with simple discipline...which is also a far better deterrent than a fine if you have any knowledge of child psychology.

My kids are taught to respect adults and authority figures at all times. I also meet their teachers each year to let them know to notify me if my kids have any issues. I don't forbid them to be disciplined at school, just to keep me in the loop. So far this has worked out well for all parties. My kids also know the punishment about lying about bad behavior is much worse than just being honest. Consequently they usually just own up to it, we have a talk, I assess the punishment and we move on. If they don't learn their lesson we revisit it until they do.

Anonymous said...

5:40
Never spent a day in the real world ?????

Anonymous said...

Funds to give the super and his posse must be getting tight. It doesnt matter. School board members get tired of looking the other way once their kids graduate. It is sickening to deal with these board members and parents riding teachers, coaches, and principals likea french whore waiting for the climax. Cell phones are the least of this school's problems. Youve got an AD that stood on a countertop at a party while parents stuffed dollar bills in his tighty whitiies just so their kids can get that starting position. Its the same crap year after year. Joiner will be president when Haney is done throwing his weight around. In the meantime they continue inflating a deadbeat superintendents salary. Keep that pucker tight yall.

No wonder Donald Trump is so popular. Maybe we can get him on the board and he can fix the parking lot and get Mexico to pay for it.

Anonymous said...

I keep waiting for Paul Harvey to stop by with the "rest of the story."

BTW - I think spending your day with hundreds of middle schoolers is as "real world" as it gets.

Anonymous said...

@907....where do you get your information? You are clueless.

Anonymous said...

No they aren't 8:15

Anonymous said...

Hang out with people your own he Fuller

Anonymous said...

Fuller here's a hint I wouldn't hang my hat on running around with the Champmans

Anonymous said...

Funds are tight and the supt gets another raise? So he can get a new truck this month or build a new house. It's BS that we pay our idiot basketball coach 70 k to do nothing . We have janitors and aides struggling to pay their insurance but the rich get richer. Our AD has zero communication skills so we hire his wife to be communication director and she is the biggest flake in three counties. Wonder what we are paying her to make mistakes like bring your little shits to get their shots. What is our school board doing. It's time for change.

Anonymous said...

I dont feel sorry for you! This town voted for those board members to represent the interest of the schools. The entire board has swapped spit with each other at some point in their lives. They cant get over the fact that High School ended decades ago. This town is ran by the Decatur class favorites cartel and everything from our schools to city government is a complete joke.

Anonymous said...

I have no problem with the cell phone policy. But don't like that no one seems to know or tell where the money goes.

But unfortunately some teachers are just as bad. In 7th grade pre-AP history my children's teacher spent more time on her Facebook than actually teaching. And what did the school do about it promote her to a HS coaching job. Way to go DISD.

Anonymous said...

DISD is a joke and it starts with our leadership. Over paid and walks around with his chest out like he is someone. And our board should be on the episode wife swap.

Anonymous said...

My child had that same teacher and she sits with her feet propped up on the desk, real lady like, and her phone seems to be glued to her fingers. As long as the students "PLAY" on their iPads and not bother her, things are good! If they do get a lesson its something to do with playing. Is she ever going to grow up? Calling her "Coach" is a joke.

Anonymous said...

We the people need to put a stop to this .

Anonymous said...

Everytime, we the people, try to elect someone for change, all you Decatur homers vote your high school classmates in as school board members. None of them give a damn about managing my tax money or ethics. They are checking the box as long as their child gets to play or is acknowleged at church with a hand shake from the "right people". Look at the bios of the members on the school district website. Its almost like reading one of their yearbooks. If they didnt go to school hear, they are jocking for popularity with the inbred crowd. I am convinced that there are crimes being committed with these board members. Its repulsive!

Anonymous said...

Change is needed and needed now. Why would we continue to raise the supra salary? Let's say his cost of living has gone up. But guess what so has every teacher, nurse, aide, janitor , maintenance and principal . Why does Rod deserve that ? From what I've seen all he has done is spend money on athletics. $70000 for a boys basketball coach . Is the girls coach making that? No. And why because he is a Towwnsend boy. Why do we need new baseball and softball concessions and press box ? Well it benefits Elders son. This has got to stop

Anonymous said...

The point of the fine is simple.... your kid has been told, warned numerous times and continues to break the rule. No teacher in their right mind wants to deal with parents... comments above prove why.

How bought making that kid mop your floors a dollar a pop and then he can have his phone back instead of gathering $15 in pennies?

Send us a card from prison when he gets drunk, kills people, and you run off with him to Mexico.

Anonymous said...

Someone tell us who this courthouse employee is. Shouldn't be too hard to find out

Anonymous said...

Barry for school board

ellaro said...

I don't know why anything surprises me anymore. That's the rule, go to a few school board meetings and raise the topic that you think this rule is not fair or whatever you think about the rule...address it in a mature manner.

That kid broke the rule, there's a consequence. This parent paying in pennies just punishes the one who has to count them and it sends a clear message that she thinks the rule is wrong, therefore, sending a clear message to her child that it's okay to rebel if you don't like the rules.

All of you that disagree with this rule should see what these teachers put up with from these kids and their phones, it's horrendous, disrespectful and speaks volumes about the parents who are "parenting" these kids. So much of what is wrong in our society begins at home and this is just a tiny example.

I say shame on that mother. And the fact that you call her your hero speaks volumes of you as well, I'm disappointed in the both of you...

Anonymous said...

Why do we need to know who the employee is? So the supt can bully them ?

Anonymous said...

151 pm. I believe im correct when I say that the school dirrict encourages students to bring their phone to school. This is all about their future ready Campaign. If a kid brings a phone to school, what do younthink they will do with it. Just ban the phones. Dont encourage them to bring it to school, then fine them for using it. The only thing they use the ipads for is gaming and social media. Fine them for using the ipad. Hypocrisy!

QUIT DRINKING THE KOOL-AID!!

Anonymous said...

Oh I'm sure it's no secret at the school who she is since she came trotting in the office with her bag of pennies. I've never heard of anything more ignorant and childish. If the parents don't teach them respect for authority, then who does?