6.02.2007

Politics Of Fear


Ugggghhhh!

Every major news source is reporting "Breaking News" that three men have been arrested in a "plot" to blow up fuel lines at JFK Airport in New York.

The FBI held a "major news conference" and described the group as a "sleeper terrorist cell" (get those buzz words ready), and they even (gasp) "used the Internet to obtain satellite photographs of the JFK facility." (Read: Google Earth.) The U.S. Attorney for Brooklyn stood up and said it was "one of the most chilling plots imaginable."

But, if you listen closely, al-Qaida was not involved and, more importantly, "Homeland Security sources said the airport is not under threat and that the attack as planned was 'not technically feasible.'"

Once a year (flashback), the Administration has to remind us to be afraid. Kind of hard to justify the billions on the "War on Terror" without it.

Edit: Boy, was I dead on about the "Google Earth" reference. This "shocking detail" was released on Monday.

31 comments:

Anonymous said...

red alert or orange day? It looks like a yellow day from the hang-over and grill day with the beer and friends.

Anonymous said...

This just in! Plot to remove Barry's hair already in progress!

wordkyle said...

Yeah, you're probably right. 9/11 was probably an isolated incident, if it even ever happened at all.

Just like the World Trade Center bombing '93; American embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania '98; U.S. Cole '00....

The whole "America is under attack" thing is overblown, right?

But in the off chance that you're wrong, Barry, and there's another attack on an American city -- what kind of apology could you give?

Anonymous said...

Stop your fing liberal mind for just a minute!!

Anonymous said...

3:14 thank you. The liberal mindset to ignore the 30 yr assault on our culture is one of the few things scarier than GWB's religeosity.

Anonymous said...

I have to disagree with your analysis, Barry. I read a substantially dangerous plot to disrupt an airport operation by causing havoc in a adjacent residential area. That's viable. Just such a thing has been a concern near major airports for some time now. Making light of the potential for such acts shows the degree of "forgetfulness" in the American public. 911 just seems like a distant movie to far too many Americans today. Our apathy will bring true the cry of "not if, but when."

Anonymous said...

Yes, there are terrorists and other nasty people in the world. That's why we have police and military capacity to deter them. And they seem to be doing a pretty good job. They've uncovered 3 or 4 "plots" that on further investigation have shown them to be pretty primitive and ineffective. The initial headlines scream about dire threats that later turn out to be hatched by goofballs. The administration's constant playing of the fear card is getting kind of old. We don't even bother with the goofy color coded warning system anymore but Bush hypes up the threat of massive terrorist activity to cover his myriad of illegal activities. I fear that there may be some sort of actual terrorist harassment but I'm unwilling to forfeit my way of life or my constitutional rights due to the possibility of some kind of attack. Wordkyle can continue to hide under his bed because he's so fearful of the possibility of an attack. I'll stay alert and support legitimate police activity to protect us.

TXsharon said...

Watch out! The wackos are going to milk this one for all it's worth.

Anonymous said...

Oh good grief, always about Bush or the liberals or blah, blah, blah.

And when did wordkyle say he was hiding under a bed.

I don't think you could stick anyone in office and please hardly any of you.

Sometimes the comments made on this blog that try to come across as serious and intelligent are nothing more that foolishness.

Get a grip folks.

Anonymous said...

Evidently the Bush administration has seized control of CNN, MSNBC and other liberal media outlets because they are covering it as well. ( "chilling" says MSNBC.)

Maybe this is a ploy for Batty to get a spot on Tosie's new TV show. His comments are just about as stupid as hers.

Anonymous said...

Yes, chilling - that is the fact that several news agencies overreacted to this newest plot. The following from MSNBC:

"Richard Kuprewicz, a pipeline expert and president of Accufacts Inc., an energy consulting firm that focuses on pipelines and tank farms, said the force of explosion would depend on the amount of fuel under pressure, but it would not travel up and down the line.
“That doesn’t mean wackos out there can’t do damage and cause a fire, but those explosions and fires are going to be fairly restricted,” he said."

wordkyle said...

The Democrats win the White House and security is loosened -- the "freedoms lost under Bush" are restored.

A massive explosion rocks Texas Stadium at a Cowboy game, killing 30,000 to 100,000 people. Islamic terrorists claim responsibility.

A far-fetched scenario -- about as far-fetched as terrorists flying airliners into the World Trade Center.

The Liberal Democrat response "Whoops, my bad" doesn't quite seem to cover it.

Anonymous said...

Wordkyle, the boogie men might be after you! Terrorist like Tim McVey and those two goofy snipers that terrorized the DC area are living among us. Foreign bad guys could also attack regardless of the party affiliation of the president. Bad people exist and we must be vigilant. But using boogieman scare tactics to cover for massive failures in other policies just doesn't cut it for many of us.

TXsharon said...

Notice a pattern here?

Feds Break Up Terror Plot; I'm Still Not Voting Republican

Lots of links to verify.

Don't forget to stay scared so you will vote Repugnant. They've done such a fantastic job! /snark

Anonymous said...

The attack "as planned" was not currently feasible.

What we should have done is wait until it was. Wait until men dead set on killing thousands of Americans were MUCH further along on a plan MUCH more likely to succeed.

Sheesh. Stupidest point ever.

A college student acting alone kills 30 people with two guns and Barry is comforted by the fact that the attack "as planned" here was not currently feasible.

Anonymous said...

Yes, chilling - that is the fact that several news agencies overreacted to this newest plot.
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I'm just curious.

If, about three months prior to 9-11 you'd heard of a plot to blow up the WTC by 19 men using box cutters, what would you have said?

If you'd been told that the men had gone to flight schools under the pretense of wanting to learn how to fly, but not land, wouldn't you think it was all a bunch of hogwash?

At some point liberals in this country are going to have square away their idea that Bush knew about 9-11 and let it happen with the fact that they believe that we've overreacted to every terrorist plot since.

It's irresponsible to be acting like the people reporting this stuff are just scaremongering.

Anonymous said...

I"m scared of the boogieman! Aren't you?

Anonymous said...

I"m scared of the boogieman! Aren't you?
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No. But then again, I'm not some kind of fool who is willing to ignore someone hellbent on killing me just because he's stupid or insane.

I certainly hope that none of the people downplaying this are the kind of people that thought Bush should have done more pre-911.

I mean...wow...that kind of person would obviously just be playing politics with the terror threat. That would be pretty low.

Anonymous said...

Word-"chicken little"-pyle just IMd me and invited me to his secret bunker out in the flatlands. He told me I had to bring my own guns, ammo, gas mask, duct tape and plastic sheeting, bottle water, MREs and such. I declined.

I totally expect the frequency of this type of alarm/alert/what-have-you, to continue until the next presidential election - it's only gonna get worse.

I'm not lettin' my grandma travel until it's over - I hate to keep seeing her get strip searched.

"Sometimes the comments made on this blog that try to come across as serious and intelligent are nothing more that foolishness." 11:47PM, I can't believe you actually think this blog is anything BUT foolishness. Get a freaking clue.

wordkyle said...

I believe that it's prudent for our government to prepare as though Islamic terrorists want to come to America and kill Americans. That's what the evidence -- a pattern of repeated attempts to do so -- indicates.

I don't trust Liberal Democrat politicians to protect us. That's not being "chicken little." Just prudent.

The Clinton administration -- I mention it because all the Democrats seem to want to emulate it -- acted reactively rather than prophylactively (insert your own joke here.) They consider it a criminal matter rather than a national security matter.

Q: When do the police show up?
A: After the crime's already been committed.

To Liberal Democrats it's always September 10.

Anonymous said...

Word-"chicken little"-pyle just IMd me and invited me to his secret bunker out in the flatlands. He told me I had to bring my own guns, ammo, gas mask, duct tape and plastic sheeting, bottle water, MREs and such. I declined.

I totally expect the frequency of this type of alarm/alert/what-have-you, to continue until the next presidential election - it's only gonna get worse.

I'm not lettin' my grandma travel until it's over - I hate to keep seeing her get strip searched.
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Who here has advocated not flying? Who here has advocated hiding out in a bunker?

Instead of just creating a straw man why don't you argue in an intellectually honest way:

Should these guys have been arrested or not?

Anonymous said...

Sure they should be arrested. So should other goofball plotters. There are over 300,000,000 people in this country and we've arrested 10 or 15 supposed terrorists (and actually convicted 2 or 3). So far, they've all been off-the-wall plans by inept cretins. I hope the police are doing their jobs and continue to weed out criminals. However, the news media jumping all over these stories as if the sky is falling is doing no one any good.

The Devil said...

I had a plan to blow-up Decatur McDonalds but someone beat me to it!

Anonymous said...

Golly gee whiz! If only Bush had thought to use Google Earth he might have discovered Iraq had no WMD program. Oh yes, I forgot he did have even better information but chose to ignore it so he could be a "war president."

Anonymous said...

Actually, there have been about 39 national security terror convictions since 9-11. A far greater number of suspected terrorists have been convicted on lesser charges.

So factually, you're just plain wrong.

As for the attention this is getting--would you have said the same thing if we'd arrested Mohammed Atta on the runway? Again, at some point both of the two major terror attacks (both at the WTC) in this country must have looked pretty silly.

After the first attack we were specifically told there was nothing to be concerned about.

Maybe it's not a bad thing to show a little concern about this.

Anonymous said...

12:22 I'd like to see you document the 39 convictions. Most were for over-staying a visa or parking tickets - not terrorism.

The fact is that our police are doing a pretty good job – so far. But with 300 million people to deal with, there's bound to be some dangerous kooks out there. We must maintain vigilance but let's not overreact when these minor operators are apprehended.

TXsharon said...

Here's one that got bushed up.
Judge dismisses charges against detainee

Oopsie! Winning hearts and minds...

Anonymous said...

How dare Bush try to connect the dots to keep us safe. If he had not have eavesdropped on TxSheehan's phone conversations, this plot would never have been busted and all of Decatur would have been wiped out. What ever you do, do not give Homeland Security any praise for keeping us safe.

Anonymous said...

From the Seattle-Times:
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An analysis of the Justice Department's list of terrorism prosecutions by The Washington Post shows that 39 people — not 200 — have been convicted of crimes related to terrorism or national security.

Most of the others were convicted of relatively minor crimes such as making false statements and violating immigration law — and had nothing to do with terrorism, the analysis shows. Overall, the median sentence was 11 months
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Anonymous said...

OK, some 39 convictions on "terrorism" in 5 or 6 years (or does this also include the Clinton years?). Average sentence of 11 months? Gee, people get more time for bad checks or shoplifting.

Fact is there have been no serious terror plots uncovered - yet. Gotta remain vigilant but the press over reaction to goofy plotters is still over done.

Anonymous said...

OK, some 39 convictions on "terrorism" in 5 or 6 years (or does this also include the Clinton years?). Average sentence of 11 months? Gee, people get more time for bad checks or shoplifting.

Fact is there have been no serious terror plots uncovered - yet. Gotta remain vigilant but the press over reaction to goofy plotters is still over done.
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You have a problem with facts don't you?

First it was only one or two convicions. WRONG.

Now it's the average sentence is 11 months.

Again. WRONG. (It actually says median).

Read what the article says. The 11 month median does not appear to apply to the 39 convictions:
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An analysis of the Justice Department's list of terrorism prosecutions by The Washington Post shows that 39 people — not 200 — have been convicted of crimes related to terrorism or national security.

Most of the others were convicted of relatively minor crimes such as making false statements and violating immigration law — and had nothing to do with terrorism, the analysis shows. OVERALL, the median sentence was 11 months.
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And Richard Reid wasn't serious?

And you don't think it's serious that there are people in this country that want to blow up an airport?

Disregard for the moment that their plan "as planned" was not "technically feasible" according to one expert...given that 19 guys killed 3000 people with box cutters, a Va Tech college student just two months ago killed 30 people in one morning, don't you think it's worth reporting that these guys planned to blow up an airport and half a city?

Or you just don't think it should make any of the 4-5 24 hour cable news services at all?

I'm sorry, but you're crazy if you think that this kind of plot shouldn't even be mentioned (which is what this comes down to). At some point, people like this will fall back on something more reliable. Just the fact that they're interested in killing thousands of people is newsworthy.

For some reason you just don't want that fact reported, and I'm not sure why.

In any event, this was in the news for two days tops.

Several guys with plans to kill several thousand people. In the news two days. You call that an overreaction.

At some point I'd like to see a little intellectual integrity from the many liberals that claimed prior to 9-11 Bush should have shut down airports, evacuated the WTC, done SOMETHING based on NOTHING, who are now claiming we're being alarmist.